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Cosas wants failed pupil promoted

2013-01-17 14:37

Johannesburg - A demand by Cosas that a Grade 11 pupil in Soweto be promoted even though he failed is being dealt with, the Gauteng education department said on Thursday.

"The team from head office is working with the district to resolve this matter," said spokesperson Charles Phahlane.

"The department is talking to the parents of the Grade 11 learner about his results."

Phahlane said teaching at Morris Isaacson High School, where the Congress of SA Students member was a pupil, had not been disrupted as reported.

"Schooling is taking place as usual today [Thursday]," he said.

Earlier in the day, The Star said members of Cosas were disrupting schooling over the issue.

The pupil concerned is a member of the pupil representative council.

According to the newspaper, classes have been disrupted regularly since schools opened last week Wednesday.

Cosas president Collen Malatji, said the organisation was aware of what was happening, but could not comment on the matter as he was waiting a full report from the provincial branch.

"We've set up a team to investigate the matter... As students, we can't support any disruption to teaching and learning," Malatji told the newspaper.

Comments
  • jeannebad - 2013-01-17 14:39

    The Western Cape should be Independent.

      kalabafazi - 2013-01-17 15:43

      I say promote the kid. That way they can struggle through matric and fail it at the end of this year. Of course nothing would have been achieved but hey that's the way our Government works. Lots of effort for zero reward.

      walter.laurie - 2013-01-17 16:03

      Yes! An Independent Cape 100% support! It's ours, let's take it!

      jesibelle.krueger - 2013-01-17 18:31

      @lorain.maseko, Western Cape is NOT Africa, lovey - it is South Africa; better for you to trot along to the Congo/DRC/CAR (were you emigrated from to settle within the borders of the SA of today). chiefkeef.sosa.56 can help you drag your belongings along the ground, or balanced on your head, wrapped in skins and walking there, it is after all the “African Way” – just as your ‘King of the Illiterates’ keeps telling you...

      thozi - 2013-01-17 19:58

      So if he gets 21% for his Matric final, the Department of Education would add 9% to make it 30%. Then Minister Angy will jive and celebrate - declaring that the pass mark has improved??? What the hell is going on in SA???

      george.pito - 2013-01-17 20:28

      Dont know the Western Cape ride a trump card but a pretty useless setup anyway as they depend on Gauteng for anything. It is the mother city cause everything takes 9 months there. They are this slapgatte with Zille and now they want to be independant cause the ANC did not manage to border them like they did over the rest of the country. In short they want independance while it is going good with some white and coloured majority. yeh the subject was education I know and somehow the Cape wants to respond with a independance story. The problem is however we need to get a united attitude and get people to a level to understand that the Western Cape has some success stories and some not and people must forget race and identify why the Zumas etc are dragging this country down.

      Siyabonga Biyela - 2013-07-23 15:49

      ha ha ha!

  • leigh.paikin - 2013-01-17 14:44

    I want to be passed when I fail, I want my matric without studying, I want a job, I want more money... It never ends with the I wants... There seems to be a generation of getting things without earning them...

      frank.crane.180 - 2013-01-17 14:55

      And a house

      godfrey.welman - 2013-01-17 15:05

      @Leigh...it's called "we demand"

      carla.vittori3 - 2013-01-17 15:44

      And you have to give it to me because of Apartheid!

      kalabafazi - 2013-01-17 15:44

      Is "we demand" going to be made a compulsory subject? It would be a very good way of increasing the pass rate.

      richard.zanner - 2013-01-17 15:47

      Nice Leigh. You stole my words right from my mouth.

      John - 2013-01-17 22:40

      And the I demaaaaand

      msophiasharp - 2013-01-18 15:24

      And a Car, Cell Allowance, Retention Bonus while I laugh from my stomach because of Employers kissing my backside.....!!!

  • marie.delarey - 2013-01-17 14:47

    I might be stupid but when I was a student COSAS concerned "STUDENTS" not "PUPILS". A pupil or "learner's" duty is to learn their school work and pass....? Help me if I'm wrong?

      silenta.solly - 2013-01-17 14:59

      Im also amazed at this behavior, i trust the education department will not be bullied into promoting this pupil, she must just go back to Grade 11. I also had no idea pupils could belong to COSAS, thought it was only STUDENTS, well at least back in the day it was like that

      patrick.mampane - 2013-01-17 14:59

      Are u confusing COSAS with SASCO? It is understandable I bet.

      freddie.miff - 2013-01-17 15:31

      I am still stunned at the "pupil representative council!!" At varsity we had an SRC, for students, but nothing like this at school with pupils!! At this level they should be learning, not playing politics

      lorain.maseko - 2013-01-17 15:49

      And that's why they fail,coz they concentrate on nonsense instead of studying.

  • charles.olivier.545 - 2013-01-17 14:50

    double standards!!! no wonder everything goes the way it does! but never mention race if you are white!!! damn how lazy do you have to be not to pass on 32%... common seriously!!

      malcolm.j.patterson.1 - 2013-01-17 18:32

      A couple of weeks ago through this forum A Zulu pupil was saying how grateful he was that his parents had the means & foresight to send him to school in Zimbabwe. Even with all the chaos up there their schooling is far superior to ours, I wonder why?

  • sunshiny.day.1447 - 2013-01-17 14:52

    And exactly what makes him better than all the other students that failed? Is there a plot against him that he genuinely studied but never passed? More than likely not- I wish News24 would go into a little more details as to WHY he thinks he should go to the next grade.

  • eagles.eyes.54 - 2013-01-17 14:55

    Haike, this is very Cosas like. From the time I was in school disrupting classes by Cosas members was the order of the day. we have poor quality matriculant and now Cosas wants to add to that by sending pupil who failed to matric. fact is if they couldnt pass grade 11 what will make them pass grade 12. it is more like geometry classes, they would say; use ur answer in 1 to answer 2. so if you didnt know the answer to 1 then it means u wont have the answer for 2

  • michael.smit.73997 - 2013-01-17 14:57

    Eish... i want to pus but i dont want to wek

      stirrer.stirrer - 2013-01-17 15:03

      I want pus too.

      derek.smith.12177276 - 2013-01-17 15:49

      im telling u...its these tietchas...they are all bloody agents...!

      msophiasharp - 2013-01-18 15:26

      Julle is amal skreeusnaaks maar slaan die SPYKER OP DIE KOP - Mooi so!!!

  • christoffvstaden - 2013-01-17 15:00

    Perhaps common sense should be taught as a subject?

      msophiasharp - 2013-01-18 15:27

      Probably expecting too much!!!

  • keith.recore - 2013-01-17 15:00

    when reporting such stories, it would be helpful as to why they want they student passed? How could this be left out of the story?

  • doofy279 - 2013-01-17 15:02

    It start here to get rotten, FAIL--->PROMOTED then it will be CORRUPTION----> REDEPLOYMENT. Please comrade be sober when you make statement especial regarding "Education"

  • vanessa.luckhoff - 2013-01-17 15:10

    An 18 year old grade 10 pupil tries to commit suicide after being told she is not allowed to return to school because she failed twice...and now they want this pupil who failed Grade 11 to be promoted...Nahhh I don't get it,sorry!

      D_MAN - 2013-01-17 15:22

      Exactly shelly. Let a white, coloured, indian or chinese pupil fail nothing will get done. Let a black person fail and they do everything in there power to help.

      D_MAN - 2013-01-17 15:27

      Agreed Shelly. It's because this student is black that they will do anything to put him into grade 12. Let you be white, coloured, indian or chinese they will just say sorry you must redo that grade.

      rodney.overes - 2013-01-17 16:27

      Because they pass grade 12 as they must be getting the answers, Normally a grade 12 student has 9 months of education then rights the final exam, certain schools were closed for 4 months and they have a 100% pass rate, now explain that.

      chiefkeef.sosa.56 - 2013-01-17 16:48

      You AWB Members are quite funny, whenever an Article has black people in it.. You bring out the race n bash black people..but when the article is about a white person doing wrong like Johan Kotze, you are the first Idiots who always say "Let us not bring colour into it, what does colour have to do with it"... I wonder if anyone take you clowns seriously

  • wessel.jordaan.3 - 2013-01-17 15:14

    wtf...you failed that is end of story...what if they don't pass you they are going to burn the school down..OR MAYBE THE TOWN?!!!Beam me up Scotty I am done!!!

      bevan.carpenter.1 - 2013-01-17 15:21

      i love the mentality, burn it down so then no-one has anything anymore

  • atlega.rankoane - 2013-01-17 15:18

    that's so unfair if i was a student at that school nd i failed my grade nd i see this pupil going to another grade while he failed, i was going to strike until they push me. but now they can't see that they are killing this boy, what if he fails grade 12?

      Erna - 2013-01-17 17:15

      Not 'what if he fails grade 12' but when

  • Lukyan.Ahmedenko - 2013-01-17 15:19

    And then we wonder...... But he could be our Next Fearless leader....

      msophiasharp - 2013-01-18 15:30

      And soon thereafter, father to 47+ children and God alone knows how many wives...

  • bevan.carpenter.1 - 2013-01-17 15:20

    Disruptions in schools, farms and mines due to arrogant morons. Sigh... if only they could see the knock on effect, but the gift of foresight is for the educated so the drama will just perpetuate, go cANCer go!!

  • Switchlifecoaching - 2013-01-17 15:21

    Seriously you’re all idiots this is NOT a chat room. No wonder our country is in this mess when even the supposed educated like you, carry on like this. They should just stand on the street corner and handout matric certificates because there is NO standard of education.

      msophiasharp - 2013-01-18 15:30

      Good one!!

  • Switchlifecoaching - 2013-01-17 15:21

    Seriously you’re all idiots this is NOT a chat room. No wonder our country is in this mess when even the supposed educated like you, carry on like this. They should just stand on the street corner and handout matric certificates because there is NO standard of education.

      amandla.whereto - 2013-01-17 15:54

      Stutter much? Wow, so you are the one, the only non-idiot!

  • smahlaba - 2013-01-17 15:28

    This Cosas or whatever is a misleading the people and a waste of time.

  • mikey.scholtz.7 - 2013-01-17 15:29

    What difference does it make? A government school matric doesn't mean anything, anywhere. Pass them all makes absolutely no difference!

  • john.ncala - 2013-01-17 15:29

    I don't like and I never did even when I was president of the then SRC in the same school where this is happening ,my problem is bad reporting because I'm living next to the school and I only started going to work today and sure I haven't seen any class disruption in the school since they openend

  • jacqy.marx - 2013-01-17 15:30

    Seriously!! What makes this pupil so special? If this pupil studied like the rest he would have passed! But its too easy these days! If something is not going your way call the union!

  • nigel.olifaunt - 2013-01-17 15:32

    Let him pass - this is Africa where they want everything without working for it. Make his day and give him matric and a 3 year degree. People are anyway not appointed anymore on qualifications or experience. Only thing that counts is whether you are an AA candidate or not. The fact that you can do the work, does not count anymore.

      timmy.ditsele - 2013-01-18 06:44

      Njgel you are a moron.Why ibclude the whole of a continent when only one pupil is involved. Besides what does the parents say about all this? is the question.

  • gregory.jurgens - 2013-01-17 15:38

    This guy has a bright future in politics. A self glorified illiterate idiot. Perfect for President .

      derek.smith.12177276 - 2013-01-17 15:53

      his road to politics is paved Greg...he has already overcome the first hurdle...

  • richard.zanner - 2013-01-17 15:45

    You mean he did not get 30% but wants to still pass. Why not just dispense with school altogether and issue matric certificates at birth.

      msophiasharp - 2013-01-18 15:33

      Its a birthright! LOL

  • derek.smith.12177276 - 2013-01-17 15:47

    well while the are already busy with the matter..why dont they just offer him a Doctorate in something....or maybe even a job in the government instead of wasting his time in grade 11...maybe we should abolish failure as a whole...

  • duane.vanvuuren - 2013-01-17 15:49

    Let's just reward mediocrity, shall we?

      konstabel.koekemoer - 2013-01-17 16:15

      It's more like rewarding failure!

  • obadia.setshedi - 2013-01-17 15:50

    What is the relevance of COSAS in our current day society? I see a prototype of Presidency.

  • christopher.g.rogers.5 - 2013-01-17 15:52

    Typical south africa!!! I bet you its not his fault but apartheids.

  • tshiamo.stevens - 2013-01-17 15:54

    promoting a failed student defeats the whole purpose of writing an exam. Used to cadre deployment of corrupt comrades?

  • tshiamo.stevens - 2013-01-17 15:56

    I don't even think the Cosas empty talking head knows where a library nearest to him is.

  • rob.bayliss.94 - 2013-01-17 15:57

    It must come as a bit of a shock to this person that being connected doesn't always neccesarily mean that you get a free ride. After all, expectations have been established all over the place, from SAA's performance down to a 30% pass mark!

  • kevin.kramer111 - 2013-01-17 16:02

    He will BEE come a Meenesta!

  • gail.welman - 2013-01-17 16:06

    OH YAY GIVE HIM ANOTHER CHANCE.

      msophiasharp - 2013-01-18 15:34

      Because he (and COSAS) cannot help it if they are SLOW!!! LOL

  • Sibusiso - 2013-01-17 16:18

    According to relevant rules of the dept of ed ,only the parents of a failed learner can motivate for his condonation.Any other person would be interfering.

  • matt.cumming.77 - 2013-01-17 16:27

    How can someone who failed get a pass. If you too thick, then you need to work, not drop the standard

      steve.gibson.146612 - 2013-01-17 17:26

      Can the standard drop any lower???

      msophiasharp - 2013-01-18 15:35

      Its already hit ROCK-BOTTOM!!!

  • mullervince - 2013-01-17 16:46

    I have to disagree when Africa is generalized. I know proffesional people from Zimbabwe, and boy, they sure are well educated... and I guess, for some other Africa countries, their people are also educated to a more international standard that South Africa are currently trying to establish.

      steve.gibson.146612 - 2013-01-17 17:34

      Agreed dealt with many educated Africans during my time in Kenya, Zambia,Zim.and others . The biggest difference was there was no expectation of entitlement. They studied and worked hard for their valuable education and degrees.

  • sphiwe.sibanyoni - 2013-01-17 16:47

    They killing him, they not helping.

  • mhla.nombembe - 2013-01-17 16:54

    they will be real problem to universities if they just cuize through grade 12 . . .I wish people who deal with education department should be educated people to avoid such senseless proposal

  • Insanity.rulesall - 2013-01-17 16:57

    Empty vessels make the loudest sound!!

  • caine.abel.75 - 2013-01-17 17:00

    This student will head the task team

  • anaska - 2013-01-17 17:01

    Disruption in the schools of SA is inappropriate -South Africa is in such a mess due to the ANC being in power!! -People are crushed of the ongoing corruption and imcompetence of the anc government and unfortunately the perpertrators are hardly punished!!The closing down of a supposed democratic space especially the freedom of speech (expression) is non-excistant

  • vernon.meakin - 2013-01-17 17:07

    Promote him ,he can become one more dumbo for the goverment.

  • Erna - 2013-01-17 17:10

    There's a huge shortage of medical doctors. Why not make him one?

  • mgcobo.gwampi.3 - 2013-01-17 17:17

    Don’t believe everything you read, especially from News24.

      steve.gibson.146612 - 2013-01-17 17:26

      Reported in the Star plus two othere newspapers!!

  • willbeonekenobi - 2013-01-17 17:29

    if thre pupil in question could not pass gradw 11 what makes them think the pupil will pass matric?

  • willem.dehaan.94 - 2013-01-17 17:43

    Why bother with exams? Give them all a matric certificate at birth and stop wasting money on teachers and schools - all whitey stuff imported from Europe! A true African does not need it - he knows it all anyway. Send only the white ones to school - it is their culture and they need these things to advance in society. But all a good African requires is two hands and two feet and something in between. So promote this one and sommer give him a B.A. or BSc or whatever he, she or it wants. Even a doctorate. Just remember to mark it AA.

  • francois.delange - 2013-01-17 18:24

    That word "want"again?

  • henk63 - 2013-01-17 20:48

    The pupil should leave school and go into politics. Here is another Malema in the making.

  • sheik.mohammad.378 - 2013-01-17 23:59

    Pass one, pass all................... it worked before, with the ANC breeding a generation of morons with an ablity of making crosses (X) at voting time.

  • lulama.mbelwa - 2013-01-18 06:33

    I really don't see the need to keep those failed students in Grade 11, its not like the level of today's education is quality there can't be a huge difference with those who passed, this OBE system sucks altogether. Rather if they care bout they education to go to FET colleges and rather do N courses.