Cougar wanted Bulls player killed

2010-11-19 08:22

Pretoria - When two Nigerians sent a photo of a “dead” Blue Bulls and Bulls rugby player, Deon Helberg, to a Pretoria woman on Wednesday, she replied: “Job well done. See you tomorrow.”

Manda Reyneke, 47, of Silver Lakes apparently contracted the two Nigerians several months ago to kill Helberg, 21, who has also played for the Springbok Sevens side.

Little did she know that the police force’s Hawks investigation unit, the Nigerians and a very much alive Helberg had carefully doctored the photo to trap her.

Reyneke was arrested at the Atterbury Value Mart in Pretoria on Thursday morning shortly after handing R10 000 in cash - allegedly part payment for the hit - to the Nigerians.

Car surrounded

Beeld saw Reyneke stop next to the two Nigerians in the parking lot in her silver Volvo and hand them a packet of R100 notes, when several unmarked vehicles carrying members of the Hawks surrounded her car, sirens blaring, and forced her to get out.

Reyneke did not show any emotion throughout the sting, even when she was handcuffed and put into a police vehicle.

Lieutenant-Colonel Leonie Verster, a commanding officer in the Hawks’ tactical operations management section, said one of the Nigerians approached the police with information about the planned hit.

“We are extremely grateful to this man and see this as a great success.”

Verster said Reyneke made certain admissions following her arrest.

Johan Lourens, Helberg’s uncle, said the arrest was a great relief.

 “Deon is very relieved, as she [Reyneke] had been threatening for two years that she was going to have him killed.

“It was hell for him to wonder every day whether he was going to die that day. We are glad that justice will now be done.”

Helberg said the Blue Bulls Rugby Union (BBRU) will shortly issue a statement on his behalf.

Fell in love with him

Beeld heard Reyneke wanted to have Helberg killed because she had fallen in love with him while he was dating her daughter some time ago.

He was living with them at one stage.

When Helberg broke off the relationship with her daughter, Reyneke allegedly started harassing him with SMSes and later started threatening him with death.

About two months ago she met two Nigerians at a nightclub and allegedly hired them to carry out the hit.

“She picked the wrong Nigerians,” said one of them, who wishes to remain anonymous.

“She sent us SMSes day and night, informing us of all Helberg’s movements.

“She said she would buy us each a house and that, after the murder, she would pay us R10 000 a month for 12 months.”

The Nigerians, who did not want to kill anyone, put pressure on Reyneke to give them Helberg’s cellphone number.

When she eventually did so, they contacted Helberg and told him Reyneke had hired them to kill him.

No emotion

Even after her arrest, Reyneke still thought Helberg was dead - until she heard during her interrogation at the Hawks’ headquarters in Silverton that he was still alive.

Beeld was told she had asked to see Helberg and he was apparently called to the room.

Reyneke reportedly showed no emotion when she saw him alive. The two said nothing to each other.

Reyneke is expected to appear in the Pretoria Regional Court on a charge of conspiring to commit murder.

  • Dnt8 - 2010-11-19 08:44

    This is better than the Bold and beautifiul mixed with a little days of our

      Bernadette Rudolph - 2010-11-19 09:54


      rudivdwalt - 2010-11-19 13:21

      Yes, now all they have to do is sleep with each other, then get amnesia!

      Bratt - 2010-11-19 16:51

      I think they already did...

      dongreen2000 - 2010-11-20 04:10

      Funny...I thought a cougar was someone that is 40 or older. I've heard it that way for the last 5 years. I've some sites like this and have joined a few, I prefer the site ----Cougarconnecting dot com--- because they give lifestyle and "den" (bar/club) information on where to find cougars around the US/Canada. The cougar phenom got rolling with Demi dating Ashton now it is getting more publicity. I think people need to remember what a cougar is though, it starts with being over 40.

      Bratt - 2010-11-20 06:37


      slim2502 - 2010-11-20 08:51

      @ dongreen2000 she is over 40 - manda reynecke is 47 years old

  • robertgunning - 2010-11-19 08:47

    What a selfish and putrid person. I hope she spends a long time in jail.

  • djmilano.26 - 2010-11-19 08:47

    Wow how evil can one be ?

      CharlieChap - 2010-11-19 10:38

      Dunno...ask Juliaaas!

  • Desmond - 2010-11-19 08:51

    crazy cow..... she got punked so bad...

      Dnt8 - 2010-11-19 09:16

      mad cow disease..lmao

  • Janaman - 2010-11-19 08:52

    OMFG - this is crazy!!!! feels like a chapter of a novel!

  • markfrasermf - 2010-11-19 08:53

    What’s up with Blue Bull players and controversy? Drugs, Sex, Murder WTF

      Rudi de Wet - 2010-11-19 10:06

      Everybody likes the taste of beef!!! Everybody at some point their life supports the Bulls. It's how life is balanced out. Come Super14 next year it will be the same again! But I must agree, what the hell did he see in this old sugar mommy?!! let's see a photo of the daughter. Maybe she at least is something to look at!!

      Derek - 2010-11-19 10:24 have a lot to learn in life my friend. Next yesr will be Super 15 and NO..everybody does not support the Blue Bulls at some stage in our life's...some of us do have class and style.

      saritavdm - 2010-11-19 10:45

      I have NEVER EVER supported the bulls, and never will. I'm a SHARKS fan bigtime!

      Rudi de Wet - 2010-11-19 10:52

      @ Derek - Oops! Did I step on a Province toe?! He he!! You're right, I forgot next year is Super 15. Imagine the comments if Helberg runs onto the field next year! 'Bull returns form the Dead', or 'There IS life after Manda!' Imagine his next girlfriend asking him 'are you that guy who dated the daughter and crazy mommy at the same time?!' Imagine her trying to think of an excuse to get the hell outta there!!

      Emile - 2010-11-19 11:15

      Higer trees catch more wind - it is basics.

      Emile - 2010-11-19 11:16

      Sorry Derek. Really sorry to hear about your sh1t.

      Derek - 2010-11-19 11:45

      Yes...What can I say beginning of the end for the Bulls!!!

  • bafrank - 2010-11-19 08:54

    That's a job well done! It's nice to read some positive news for a change! Well done Nigerians!

      JustinC. - 2010-11-19 09:36

      Agree... It's good to see that there still is good people out there! well done!!!

      Bratt - 2010-11-19 12:01

      lol... Never though I would see that phrase! Well done Nigerians indeed!!!

      Honeybabe - 2010-11-19 14:08

      Yeah... Its a job well done!! We should also follow in this!!

  • Lundi - 2010-11-19 09:00

    The tannies in Silverlakes should really considering joining a Book Club or take up some pottery classes, but to hire a Nigerian to kill someone is a bit much.

      Picasso - 2010-11-19 15:56

      Hehehe, what will they read, Murder she wrote?

  • Lundi - 2010-11-19 09:03

    I really think that those tannies in Silverlakes should rather consider some Ikabana classes or joining a book club or even pottery classes. But to hire a Nigerian to kill someone else is a bit far fetch.

  • Paralegal - 2010-11-19 09:04

    Well done to the Nigerians! They could so easily have just done the deed and taken the money. I wonder how many locals would have done what the Nigerians did. Hope this woman gets a life sentence. Disgraceful.

      Ares - 2010-11-19 12:47

      @malcomx We know you would do it for free because you have no conscience.

      AlfredNeuman - 2010-11-19 13:11

      Lol@ malcomx! Is that the best you can do? In your poorly veiled racist jab you bring up the Crossley case (again) all the way back from 2004 and coincidentally forget (genuinely, I'm sure) to mention who his accomplice was, a Mr Mathebula. As for Johann Nel, what he did was the equivalent of a slow days "work" for one of your hijacking brethren. Nel killed 4 people, I wonder who killed the other 46 who died that day? You're not very good at spouting racist BS, are you malcolm?

      Rudi de Wet - 2010-11-19 15:40

      @AlfredNeuman - LMAO.Thanx for helping me out with the meaning of the x in malcomx!!

      Beverley - 2010-11-19 15:54

      @ malcolmx You really need some help! You seem to have some sort of personality disorder or complex. Shame man, i am truly worried as your comments and statements are getting more aggressive and abusive! Get some help before you busrt a vain in your racist head! Get over racism - you are causing it!

      Lauren - 2010-11-21 10:13

      What keeps happening to malcolmx's comments? Are they being removed?

  • Thangy - 2010-11-19 09:13

    Lol @Desmond, she got punked!!!

  • MP3 - 2010-11-19 09:13 I wonder if this is her?

      Rudi de Wet - 2010-11-19 10:13

      Cant be, FB Manda matriculated in 1981. Bulls Sugar Mommy matriculated in 1921. Did you not see all the make up?

      Rudi de Wet - 2010-11-19 10:24

      Go to there is a nice close up of her. but I must admit there is a resemblance!

      Natsumi - 2010-11-19 10:28

      Jeez if you are right then she is from my part of the continent...yikes... but it makes sense, some of the 'tannies' can be pretty scary i tell you...

      Jellybaby - 2010-11-19 11:08

      Rudi, LOL it is impossible for the Bulls Sugar Mommy to have matriculated in 1921 she would then be 107!! LOL So it must be FB Manda. She matriculated in 1981 would make her 47 so it is right. LOL so true about the makeup but i am convinced it is her on FB :D

      Rudi de Wet - 2010-11-19 11:26

      @Jellybaby - Yeah, I know, I know. But damn she doesn't look 47. Not even with all that make up. I can almost see the Peter Stuyvesant in her mouth when she goois the bottle of hair color over the grey ones while ironing out those cracks in the face... I sent the one on FB a message. Asked her if she is the one. I'm still waiting. Maybe because she's stuck in the can?

      jacowium - 2010-11-20 15:44

      Rudi, I'd rather not p*** this lady off!

  • sweetpea - 2010-11-19 09:13

    hello, anybody home??? please post comments....

  • Trêvhir - 2010-11-19 09:19

    Why doesn't anybody try to understand Manda's feelings. She might have been misled by Deon declaring all sorts of feelings for het! Sort of an entrapment! You know how vulnerable older girls can become when their hormones start to flutter. I think she needs another chance to cuddle him a bit and come to terms with her condition. Maybe the daughter can have a second chance as well! The young and the restless!

      Rudi de Wet - 2010-11-19 10:15

      A threesome reconciliation?

  • Bonolo R. - 2010-11-19 09:21

    Yoh! Thanks for the article. I saw it this morning in Beeld but couldn't understand as it is in Afrikaans. This shows how destructive anger can be when you hold onto it. Let us learn to accept things for what they are and stop hating because you only end up in worst situations if you continue to have your way. Most ladies find it hard to deal with rejection and end up abusing guys, forcefully demanding to be 'loved'. Love yourself first!!!, and you wont have to fight for love.

      Karen - 2010-11-19 14:03

      Bonolo, you are talking rubbish! What do you mean "most ladies find it hard to deal with rejection ..." - is that a joke? Wow, my goodness, in most instances it is the men that cant handle NO and start stalking women ... I think your ego is over-inflated - but - I agree with you - love yourself first and you wont have to fight for love ...

      Picasso - 2010-11-19 16:00

      Bonolo, I think what you want to say is "most ladies find it hard to deal with erection..."

      Bratt - 2010-11-20 13:23

      It would seem it was the lack of an erection that was the problem here...

  • Barry M - 2010-11-19 09:22

    Nasty piece of work - hope she enjoys her stay in the can!

  • Makutu - 2010-11-19 09:23

    Disgusting! To all the white people that think that only Africans are murderous, say something now. We are all human. Some are good and some are bad. Love has nothing to do with anyones's skin colour.

      Rudi de Wet - 2010-11-19 10:19

      @ Makutu - At least the whities make you laugh when they try this crime thing. @ Trevhir - Do you think the blacks are relieved to find out that crime is not just a black thing?

      CharlieChap - 2010-11-19 10:35

      Makutu - ...some are good, some are bad and some are just a tad obsessed with the colour of the'?

      Makutu - 2010-11-19 10:55

      Rudi! When they try? So, whites are clean. They just "try" crime...? This is seriously pathetic!

      Rudi de Wet - 2010-11-19 11:17

      @ Makutu - Yes!! They try!! Just like everybody else who gets caught!! Anybody that attempts something and fails it, TRIED. Anybody that attempts something and succeeds also TRIED. Get off your high freakin horse called Juju Malema and realize EVERYTHING isn't always about race!! You keep dividing by pulling your freakin' race cards all the time. You CREATE racism rather than reconciliation by constantly reminding everyone, including yourself, about thees theeng called raaayce!!! How pathetic is it when you can't argue a point without always having to play the race card!! There is no Pedi word for RACE CARD!!!

      Makutu - 2010-11-19 11:39

      After all those yeras of the NP trying to divide this nation, you think 20 years is sufficient to heal that wound? I seriously seriously doubt that! I wasn't pulling the race card moron, when I read comments here some people seem to suggest that crime is a culture thing in South Africa. Which to me, is a race card aswel. There is a pedi word for race card. it's called "karata ya merafe". Get your facts right! I haven't encountered a racist white person in my entire life. But I have read racist comments and I am forced to react to that. Sorry.

      Rudi de Wet - 2010-11-19 12:15

      So by that rationale we are gonna have to sit with this 'karata ya merafe' of yours for another 40-odd years?? Wanna see a racist? Go look in the mirror! Cause you wont forget anything. Your wound is not going to heal because you keep reminding yourself and everybody around you about how crappy your life has been. Life is a Bitch! Ever hear that expression? For 20 years whites have had to deal affirmative blacksion which in itself is racism by definition. Where are these so called racist remarks? you make me sick, you and all your black friends who think the world owes them something. Ever heard of the Black Lawyers Association? Black Entertainment TV? They are all out there, and people applaud them. Name one whites only organisation that is applauded by the rest of society. None! In fact, if you hear of a Whites Lawyers Association they will be labeled racist before you can say 'Juju and Floyd are geniuses'. Nobody is forcing you to react but because you do you just tell everybody what an idiot you really are because in the end all you have is your 'karata ya merafe'. By the way, karata isn't Pedi. It's actually borrowed from Afrikaans. Because in the end, there is no word for race card in Pedi. Get YOUR facts straight! By the way, I was referring to your friend Juliaaas!

      Rudi de Wet - 2010-11-19 12:49

      malcomx - I dont know her, but it is possible. I mean we are all brothers and siters in this beautiful multi-racial non-racist society aren't we? O sorry, the term brother or bra or sista is only reserved for the blacks. So no, then she can't be family. Just when i think I've met Mr. Ignorant or Mr. Self Righteous in the dear Makutu he goes and relinquishes the throne to his heir the dear malcomx. The fun never stops!!

      Will2.0 - 2010-11-19 13:10

      Rudi, by that rationale Afrikaans isn't a real language, just borrowed from Dutch.

      Rudi de Wet - 2010-11-19 13:25

      Will2.0 - Afrikaans is a germanic language, like dutch, flemish, german and a few others. Pedi is from the Nguni ethnic group. Nguni is not germanic therefore it is borrowed.

      Makutu - 2010-11-19 13:29

      LOL! Languages evolve Rudi. English came from Roman ad celts. Same with other languages. If something doesn't exist in your language, you simply borrow other words from other languages. LOL! You are talking so much crap. Afrikaans is also not a real language if you are going to speak like you are doing? It's derived from French German and Dutch, which also come from other languages. There are a lot of white associations, they are just not named White associations on the face of it. When talking about whites that make me laught, whuch ones are these?

      lacisnesnon - 2010-11-19 14:10

      Makutu, please mention 1 white association if you can that is "applauded by the rest of society", I would REALLY like to know.

      gmck21 - 2010-11-19 14:30

      anyone that thinks only africans are muderous must be retarded. the same goes for anyone that thinks all whites are racist. EVERYTHING gets put down to race. lets all move on from the race issue

      Makutu - 2010-11-19 14:36


      Rudi de Wet - 2010-11-19 15:26

      @Makutu - Firstly, freemasons are a multiracial, multicultural, multifaith and multipolitical society. Secondly, they are a secret organisation if you go a few levels up and many books have been written about their controversial rituals. So much so that some of their whistle blowers have now disappeared form the face of the earth. @malcomx - Apartheid is something that was created by the white minority government about 50 years ago and legalised to commit many attrocities to mankind. Read my comment again you idiot, I said affirmative blacksion is 'in itself racism by definition'. Where do you see the words reverse apartheid? Again your poor grasp of the english language is worse than your mate, Makutu. Where were you guys anyway when those old white racist farts were chasing your grandfathers around? In your nappies? Probably not even born yet. You probably call yourself counter-revolutionaries as well? And anything not white or remotely off black is called an agent, you ignorant twat. You sound just like your mates Julius and Floyd who don't even know what the Dusi is. Kiss your black ass? no thanks. I'm sure Makutu would like to have a go though. He sounds like he might be that way inclined anyway. Now, move along and go play. I'm sure you can find a tyre or something to burn somewhere. After all, like you said, you were created to be like you are. You can blame it on the whites. Like everybody and everything else.

      nocallingnames - 2010-11-19 15:36

      I don't like the tone you're using comrade but I do appreciate the point you're putting across. This country still lives on the perception that a black man is always the culprit(In America they say "D@mn, black man always a suspect!"), just like most wouldn't be surprised if the murder was carried out by the Niger boys. It's a curse we gotta live with(the stereotypes are there). Same as thinking that all white people are racist. The obsession is there on both sides(Enter Gareth Malema). Some of you might cry fowl and shout "See, you are also racist!" AND "But why, this is not a racial issue." Oh please, this site is full of all these "border-liners". And I live in a country that has a history and is obsessed with race so trying to ignore that fact is too damn hard so, WTH! Oh and black people can't be racist. I'm mean c'mon white people, you guys have had the chance to create and nurture the practice for a while now(which is probably why you get all defensive every time someone mentions race, sometimes rightly so but who the hell is keeping tabs).So the least you can do is give us the privilege. We need you(those who still practice) to teach us. Think of it as another BEE initiative led by the ANC cronies and Julius Malema(see how I had to make that statement, it's mandatory to anyone that comments on News24, even though it has nothing to do with the article). Anyhoo, it's Friday and I need a beer. Where the h3ll is that racist, I mean "white liberal" Jaco!

      nocallingnames - 2010-11-19 15:55

      I think Rui is about to foam in his mouth...hahaha! Man I hope Juju becomes president one day, not that I'm a fan but it would be interesting to see how some people in this country will react. I mean the obsession that we have on him is really just amazing. I think we should even look into creating a holiday in his name, cause he's really making some people feel good about themselves. You need to relax boetie, this is the inter-web. Don't take it personally.

      Beverley - 2010-11-19 16:01

      You are and sound pathetic - there is nothing racist in this article - get over yourself - you starting to sound like malcolmx!Boring!!!

      nocallingnames - 2010-11-19 17:23

      Who...? Who...? Who...? *puts hand into pocket and reaches for card* Who?

      NicolaG - 2010-11-19 18:55

      You're absolutely right, Makutu. Anyone from any race can be a criminal. And they must all accept their punishment. Nobody should be above the law.

      Mordred - 2010-11-20 18:02

      @ Nocallingnames - we South Africans are not under the perception that all blacks are the culprits - they just always are.

      Lauren - 2010-11-21 10:22

      Well, that didn't take long. Was wondering how long it would take for the race thing to stick its ugly head out.

  • Stardust_2_2 - 2010-11-19 09:30

    Hope the Nigerians get to keep the money! Well done guys. Crazy cow!

  • dylanswanie - 2010-11-19 09:34

    Clever work on the cops part

  • inhlanzi - 2010-11-19 09:43

    The sag thing is, if these Nigerians went through with their plan the headlines today would read "Springbok 7s players gunned down in driveway" and we would all be blaming the high crime rate, bad policing and Jacob Zuma's wives

      Lerapo - 2010-11-19 09:50

      Yeah...I'm waiting for the ANC to be blamed for this one too.

      droplet - 2010-11-19 10:01

      true dat

      tomloxn - 2010-11-19 10:11

      Chill out bud. Seriously it doesn't always have to be colour bashing. Such comments only show complete lack of understanding or communications across cultural boundaries. Yes, there are crazy/evil people worldwide, regardless of race or culture. We are not that stupid to not understand that.

      CharlieChap - 2010-11-19 11:02

      @Lerapo - Has anybody bothered to check the Nigerians Passports? - Bloody ANC, as if there's not enough unemployment in the County!!!

      missy_t - 2010-11-19 12:03

      And if the nigerians had been caught, it would have been all "Foreigners commit all the crime" "Foriegners must go" "They take our jobs" blah blah blah

      Nicko Minaj - 2010-11-19 13:46

      @CharlieChap, you are a legend dude.

      Picasso - 2010-11-19 16:08

      Interesting that you bring Zuma's wifes into the story, imagine they get pizzed off. The police won't know wich one to question, there's just too many...

      Bratt - 2010-11-20 13:28

      @CharlieChap - The UK is the island just off the west coast of Europe. They have a COUNTY or 3 there. South Africa is located in the southern tip of Africa. It is a COUNTRY.

      CharlieChap - 2010-11-21 10:32

      @Bratt - Thank the Good Lord for Google - its even Bratt Friendly!

      Bratt - 2010-11-22 14:53

      indeed. Use it sometimes. You might learn something.

  • Nicky - 2010-11-19 09:43

    Ayi Tannie.Kyk nou hoe schoopit is Tannie. Lekker gevang nê!

  • Offbeat - 2010-11-19 09:44

    And here I thought I was reading a bad thriller... This is comic-book gold right here folks. Also: Commendations to the Nigerians. Just goes to show that stereotypes are frowned upon for a reason.

  • Proffie - 2010-11-19 09:51

    Honour amongst thieves? Very glad to know not all Nigerians can be tarred with the same brush. Well done fellers.

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  • mac - 2010-11-19 09:52

    Well done Nigerians and SAPS.

  • Lerapo - 2010-11-19 09:54

    No, no...the lady looks like she came straight out of an old-age home. She's very, very ugly herself, so doing something as killing someone is inherent to her.

      Worldwise - 2010-11-19 15:01

      So only old and ugly people are capable of killing? Why don't you become a detective? All you will need to do is download the Home Affairs database and eliminate the good looking old people. Catching criminals will be easy for you then. Moron

      Bratt - 2010-11-20 06:39

      @Worldwise - You'd actually be shocked by the results of your suggestion...

      CharlieChap - 2010-11-21 10:34

      @ Bratt = You Probably meant "@Lerapo"

      Bratt - 2010-11-22 14:53

      No. I meant @Worldwise

  • nicholas.mauba - 2010-11-19 09:56

    Lerapo and Makutu, please stop being childish. The way we black were brought up makes it more likely for us to commit crime. Like it or not. Anywere, am just glad the police managed to prevent the murder before it happenned. Just maybe this Bheki Cele guy might be the real deal. Yesterday i pass through Alexandra and the police were searching cars like i've never seen before.

      Johann - 2010-11-19 10:32

      I agree with you on this. Well done to the Hawks and the humanity of the Nigerians!

      Makutu - 2010-11-19 11:49

      Nico! Speak for yourself bra. You were brought up like that. Not me. SIES!

      Kenko - 2010-11-19 12:43

      Just ignore those two. It seems they expect whites to actually side with the woman, like they would if it was a black woman. In fact whites condemned the whole story but are just a bit more upbeat in seeing how silly the bitch looks. It's not everyday someone makes such a fool of herself. Like whites always point out, they are not against praise for blacks where they deserve it. The two contributors above just can't stand it when their accusation of racism is not applicable.

      Makutu - 2010-11-19 13:36

      You are such an awesome mind reader Kenko. Welldone!

      Nicko Minaj - 2010-11-19 13:49

      Sorry Nicholas, not me.

      gmck21 - 2010-11-19 14:32

      high five nicholas

      Picasso - 2010-11-19 16:17

      Hey Makutu, your seat on the tiger cage wall is open!

      Bratt - 2010-11-20 13:29

      @Picasso - I think only white people fall for that one...

  • Allochrous - 2010-11-19 09:58

    Looks like Barney screwed this one up bad.

  • cjluvango - 2010-11-19 09:58

    i am sure local gangster will done the crime.

  • Adam - 2010-11-19 10:01

    Wow, its like a movie. Well done to the Nigerians and police

  • lmduplessis - 2010-11-19 10:14

    Oooookay then, perfect example of a golden rule of todays society: "Never stick your d**k in crazy!" And kudos to the Nigerians for doing the right thing. They can keep the money, they deserve it!

  • sweetpea - 2010-11-19 10:21

    it goes to show that we all have our flaws, regardless of skin colour. we must admit that Nigerians have all along been painted with one brush of criminality Look at this now. if we could all stop the "holier than thou" attitude, including us, the blacks of SA. who'd have thought a Nigerian would have spared a life instead of carrying out the orders? Learn a lesson here, good ppl: DO NOT GENERALIZE.

      gmck21 - 2010-11-19 14:32

      good comment

  • FerretGee - 2010-11-19 10:28

    So there ARE some decent Nigerians after all. See what happens when the Bulls don't win the Currie Cup!!

  • Johann - 2010-11-19 10:30

    Reading thrue the comments you can still see the race flag flying high! I't's apitty we don't condemn the incident, but we look at the colour behind it! This country will never change, because your mentality is passed from one generation to another! Please proof my statement wrong!

      pointblankza - 2010-11-19 10:56

      They just trolls, ignore them they eventually go away.

      Makutu - 2010-11-19 10:59

      Yes, thanks to the NP for starting everything. You whites have to take accountability of the thing you started. Deal with it, 49 years of trying to divide people will not be solved in one generation. It wil lbe a long time before we all get along. Deal with it!

      Susannomore - 2010-11-19 11:05

      Of course, someone has to get the race thing going. Wouldn't be a comment page without it. Are you one of those who is never happy unless things are going your way perhaps? Please don't try and kick it all off again, we have just had 2 weeks of racist slurr

      CharlieChap - 2010-11-19 11:19

      @Mafutu: Change starts within buddy! If your angry go and hug a tree but for God's sake stop your Whiiiiiiining!

      Offbeat - 2010-11-19 11:23

      I'm sorry Makuku, but that kind of thinking is just plain backwards. If you really desire change so much, then start by changing thought patterns. Doing the same thing the NP did would serve the singular purpose of fuelling more hatred, thus continueing the same cycle of discrimination. Don't, for one moment, that giving whites some sort of "payback" will actually fulfill your own inadequacies. The only thing you'll ever accomplish with vengeance is a new breed of vengeful whites. Not exactly constructive...

      pointblankza - 2010-11-19 11:27

      Ah Makutu, try something new bro, those type of statements are getting boring now.

      Makutu - 2010-11-19 11:43

      I am not RACIST. I have never meta racist white person. But I have read racist comments. I live and work with people from different races, I can confidently say that I am not a racist. But one thing I can tell you, some people comments hurt us as blacks. They hurt a lot. And they hide it well in society. I'll also hide mine. Just take note, I see it from the comments. But the people I interact with on a daily basis seems fine. But who knows what goes on throught their minds? Change also starts within you guys too... I am not racist!

      Rudi de Wet - 2010-11-19 12:17

      @Makutu - Oh hell your ares tarting to think and sound like Juliaaas!!! Where are these comments?!

      John Wilderness - 2010-11-19 12:18

      I notice the race cards and anti-black sentiments are quickly put away when it is evident that the perpetrators are white.

      Totman - 2010-11-19 12:28

      Makutu, please allowed to explain the route where SA apartheid came from. It is a very long story and therefore I am forced to shorten it drastically.Trying to do highlights. British rules. People reject it.People begin new counties. C J Rodes saw the wealth and get parties involved to take over the new countries. Even the queen Victoria. People started building up again and through there strive a group in them, using the sentiment, put in a system to ensure that no-one will rule them again. Through the process they do the same to others that was done to them. Therefore the failing of the system(apartheid) Now there is a new system, but the failures and faults of previous system start getting repeated by , once again, a group of people in the ruling party. Instead of us building each other up to ensure respect and create space for all we follow the burn down process to rebuilt again the way the mentioned group wants. If we we had any respect for each other we should not wipe out history of any group that was part of us before the NP(to mention a name)took control. We must understand that, that is part of some people. You can call it places names, monuments or what ever you like. We should also realize that there are more people that needs to be count and therefore do changes to things, places or what ever is applicable. We also must admit that we do have a lot of better laws and systems than before. We must also agree that there are a lack of implement and controlling them.

      gmck21 - 2010-11-19 14:34

      hahaha makutu clearly does not like the truth. MAKUTU every one of your comments have held racial connotations or underlyings. get over youself while we build a new south africa. oh ya one more thing hahahahahahahahahah "I AM NOT RACIST" see it feels kak to be labled a racist hey hahaha

      Bratt - 2010-11-19 16:44

      wow... holy-wall-o-text!

      Lauren - 2010-11-21 10:30

      Makutu, I get what you are saying about the hurtful comments. Guys, if you engage Makkutu sensibly, instead of hurling abuse at him, the entire exchange may go a bit differently. It does not take a genius to figure out that his comments are borne from hurt and dissapointment. Oh hell, maybe it does take a genius. You talk about change starting "within", well, why don't you guys give it a shot!

  • CharlieChap - 2010-11-19 10:31

    Hey, this is awesome - well done Hawks, VERY IMPRESSED Mr Nigerians! Now this is waht you call...A PLEASANT SURPRIZE!

  • CharlieChap - 2010-11-19 10:56

    When I wring the neck of my Amstel this afternoon I will dring to the three stooges: Lerapo; Makuto and Kolobe Well done guys! You keep on challenging each to greater stupidity!

      Rudi de Wet - 2010-11-19 11:21

      Amen to that!! I shall have one with you!! In fact, I'll just have one right now!! Cheers!!

      Makutu - 2010-11-19 11:45

      Yes Charlie Chap. You are the most righteous and smartest and the most enlightened invidual. You go and dissassemble an atomic bomb or make a hydrogem bomb more stable. We'll continue being stupid. lol... Charlie Chap, the enlightened bright one. Welldone for your smartness sir!

      CharlieChap - 2010-11-19 12:08

      @Makutu I'll take this comment and send it immediately to my wife. Finaly I get the recognition I deserve!!!!!

      Ant - 2010-11-19 14:26

      How dare you call them the 3 stooges, at least the 3 stooges where funny.

      AGENT - 2010-11-19 14:53

      Give that man a Bells !!!

      Lauren - 2010-11-21 10:33

      You assholes bleat on about the likes of Makutu making racist comments, but then you come up with stuff like this??? Where were you guys bred?

  • Susannomore - 2010-11-19 11:02

    Some people are commenting that they don't know what she looks like. In the New24 photo gallery, they have got the pictures of the freak as well as the fake photo they Nigerians gave her, which he posed for. All together now... "What a stupid cow..."

      Rudi de Wet - 2010-11-19 11:28

      My 18 month old daughter can see that blood stain is fake!!

      Makutu - 2010-11-19 11:47

      Rudi... Have you showed your daughter pictures or murdered people?

      Rudi de Wet - 2010-11-19 12:28

      @Makutu - Please, rather keep quiet 'cause you clearly don't understand the english language as well as you think. And don't give me that 'how-many-languages-can-you-speak speech'. You are probably going to tell me how many languages you can speak and how whites (here is your karata ya merafe again) can only speak one or two languages. Fact is, on this whole page you have not made one positive contribution. O wait, you have made me laugh. That's a positive!

      Makutu - 2010-11-19 13:41

      Rudi. You have made a lot more positive contributions perhaps...

      Makutu - 2010-11-19 13:44

      I think my primary school englsh teacher told me what satires were. And I think I understood that well. But I guess I was wrong in that case then. :-)

      Totman - 2010-11-19 14:12

      Rudi- He got you on your "not so well thought through remark", but I agree it does not look natural. Than,.....what is natural in the dead or its grim looks. However I believe that you always told her that it was play-play when pictures like these were, by accident, viewed by her.

      Rudi de Wet - 2010-11-19 14:13

      Of course not, I speak crap all the time. Even my wife says so. But when an idiot like Manda gets caught for something as stupid as this you cant help but to laugh, but if the race card is thrown into the works, completely uncalled for, you just get so gatvol sometimes. If you go to Germany and say the word Nazi or Hitler, you'll get a klap. They are just so gatvol of hearing how they caused two World Wars. The majority of the people in this forum are not from the age group that made decisions causing this country to be a living hell for anything not white. SO if some sugar mommy tries to whack her daughter's ex because he didn't pay enough attention to both of them, gets caught and looks the idiot as well, you want to laugh! You can't help it. Until someone reminds everyone how we should not forget that somehow this is a racial issue. Come on Makutu, please tell me how long our generation still have to say sorry for something we didn't do? Another 20 years? Read the article again, laugh about it like everybody else does and for once in your life forget about the Juju mentality. Now, leave me alone, I'm going to have a beer now.

      gmck21 - 2010-11-19 14:37

      maybe makutu is looking for attention... didnt get hugged when he was small shame

      Ant - 2010-11-19 14:45

      I would like to see Rudi's 18 month daughter in a spelling quiz against Makutu...My moneys on his daughter.

      Makutu - 2010-11-19 15:32

      LOL Ant... We'll see then. What would you guys say if I told you I was actually white?

      Rudi de Wet - 2010-11-19 15:42

      @Makutu-Nothing, you would still be an idiot.

      Susannomore - 2010-11-22 11:49

      @Makutu - please refrain from posting your annoying, agressive, bigoted, subversive comments on my posts.

  • Susannomore - 2010-11-19 11:03

    Not even a bull blue deserves to be hunted down by "that"...

      CharlieChap - 2010-11-19 11:17

      Point is: When you try and hunt down a Blue Bull - your going down baby, your going down, down, down!

      Rudi de Wet - 2010-11-19 11:35

      Or if you try to steal his car!!!

      Susannomore - 2010-11-19 11:36

      With the help of a couple of Nigerians and a SWAT team...

      CharlieChap - 2010-11-19 12:10

      @Susannomore: Hey The Bulls are connected - what can I say?

  • threezero - 2010-11-19 11:26

    This old auntie is no "Cougar"...

      Susannomore - 2010-11-19 11:38

      Sweetie - a cougar is someone who desires sexual relations from a younger man. It does not in anyway refer to the way she looks. Not a very common expression though

      missy_t - 2010-11-19 11:55

      He he he... she reminds me of Cherel de Villiers in Isidingo (only not as hot). She looks loaded. I wonder if she has a husband. Feel sorry for the daughter though :(

  • Cloudy - 2010-11-19 11:32

    good grief !!!!! (think i must give up stalking Victor now!)

      Susannomore - 2010-11-19 11:39

      Too late - your Swazi hit men have already approached the Coast guard and as soon as they find the closet route via water, they are coming to get you.

      Rudi de Wet - 2010-11-19 11:48

      Yes!! Do that! And then you start stalking the Beast. Just to get the race thing right because between Lerapo and Makutu you might have the old race card drawn, heaven forbid, because we want transformation in the stalking circles as well.

      Makutu - 2010-11-19 13:42

      Rudi de Wet said it again. lol!

      mrsnicholson - 2010-11-19 13:55

      But I'm already stalking Beast, beautiful man that he is :D

      Bratt - 2010-11-19 16:48

      imagine.. Beast. stalking. YOU!

      Bratt - 2010-11-19 16:48

      imagine.. Beast. stalking. YOU!

  • missgremlin - 2010-11-19 11:38

    Holy crap. Wild stuff happening in blue bulls turf!!

  • GT - 2010-11-19 11:41

    If you screw your girlfriends mom and she hires Nigerians to kill you, you might be a redneck

      AGENT - 2010-11-19 14:57

      OI !!! someone, give this man a Bells.

      Bratt - 2010-11-19 16:48

      This really.

      Bratt - 2010-11-19 16:49

      This really.

  • Totman - 2010-11-19 11:42

    It is good the "black" readers are running with this story. The "white" readers should take this one on the chin because they gets the most changes to rip the other apart.( Seeing we do the "black/white" thing again!) Moosa Vawda, as long as you talking of "our brothers" you still sideline people. Charlie Chap, your point is??? I am glad to see that today's discussion is more mature. Now I am wondering who's the group that always lower the remarks standard? The ones that was proof wrong this time??? Well relax. You will have the most opportunities again!!! Next time just remember today's standard of remarks and keep it the same.

      Bratt - 2010-11-19 12:03


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      Totman - 2010-11-19 14:25

      Nothing serious CharlieChap. Just a remark on some of your earlier remarks. You can read them again or let it pass. What you can do is following Rudi's idea of taking a beer and relax on this lazy Friday afternoon. Being not a drinker anymore I will join you all in spirit.

      Bratt - 2010-11-19 16:39

      again... wow...

      Bratt - 2010-11-19 16:43

      again... wow...

      Lauren - 2010-11-21 10:38

      It's ok CharlieChap, some things will just be too complicated for you to understand. Just move on to the next comment...

      CharlieChap - 2010-11-21 10:38

      Again...Bratt you do not have to post your comments twice in order to get the attention you are seeking. Just because you have to read everything twice does not mean you have to write it twice as well. PS applicable ONLY if you are older than a 2nd grader!

      Bratt - 2010-11-22 14:55

      Actually, I didn't post twice. Probably slow board posted twice. If you think about it, you will know why.

  • malcomx - 2010-11-19 11:54

    Two africans of great statue this nigerians, if it was simop or BT or worldstupid, the bulls players would have been dead!

      Worldwise - 2010-11-19 15:13

      Hey MalcolmTroll, let me throw some petrol in your necklace. Why are the government quota systems not working in the prisons? There are just too many blacks and not enough whites. Help me out here please.

      Bratt - 2010-11-19 16:49

      Stop feeding the troll

  • Bratt - 2010-11-19 12:02

    Generations could use this story. wait... never mind.

  • John Wilderness - 2010-11-19 12:07

    Ja and we were led to believe that South African crime is only a black induced problem.

      pointblankza - 2010-11-19 12:34

      John, why you trying to steer this into a race thing? What's your agenda?

      John Wilderness - 2010-11-19 13:49

      pointblankza you used turning other discussions into "a race thing" so what is the difference here ?

      CharlieChap - 2010-11-19 14:13

      Johnnie my Boy, you should not allow other to lead you by the nose!

  • missy_t - 2010-11-19 12:11

    Daughters keep your men away from your mothers!!! Especially if they're the sort that go to a nightclub. And especially don't move in together.

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      CharlieChap - 2010-11-21 10:40

      Bratt - Your AWE! at this website amazes me!

      Linda - 2010-11-21 16:31

      You have it all worked out miss_t (whats that for? tease? ) But sometimes not as easy as it looks. Them boys just cant stay away from experiencce. Hahahaha!!!

  • H Lategan - 2010-11-19 12:29

    Dit kom nou van birdie num num met 'n jongman soek.

  • j.malemmer - 2010-11-19 12:36

    Not one but two honest Nigerians!!!!!! What has become of this world? , or they thought the guy is going to pay more and when he didn't they thought: let's take what we've got. Let's live for another day! But then: If you're a real honest Nigerian I just want to say to you: Well done for being honest.

      Lauren - 2010-11-21 10:40

      What "guy"? Did you even read the story?

  • rory.b1979 - 2010-11-19 12:52

    What an awesome story. Its true what they say, fact is stranger than fiction! Although I do not think that the mastermind behind tricking the old witch was the doing of the rugby player - he looks like he cannot even spell his name lol! Whats your name? rugby. What do you do for a living? rugby? what car do you drive? rugby... the list goes on lol.