Councillors need risk benefits - Salga

2012-01-21 07:00

Johannesburg - Councillors face a risk of public violence and therefore need risk benefits, the SA Local Government Association (Salga) said on Friday.

Salga has urged the minister of co-operative governance and traditional affairs to introduce risk benefits for councillors, spokesperson Milisa Kentane said.

"Councillors face a greater risk of violence than office bearers in other spheres of government; yet the current legislative and policy frameworks do not grant councillors any protection should this eventuality arise."

While recognising the democratic right to protest, the government should also recognise the increased violence during these protests, Kentane said.

"This escalation of violent protests has not only seen the damaging of personal property, but has caused financial and psychological trauma, injury, and the loss of lives."

On Friday morning, the house of a councillor in the Sedibeng District Municipality was burnt down.

"We are not able to assess the damage at this point in time... The mayor of Sedibeng and the councillor will meet with the leaders of disgruntled illegal occupants of RDP houses who were served with eviction notices."

Kentane said Salga reiterated the call for risk benefits in the event of damage, disability, or death due to public violence.

It should be at the expense of the state or the municipality and included in the remuneration framework, he said.

  • Megan - 2012-01-21 07:13

    Just another way to waste taxpayer's money without actually doing anything! If councillors just did their freaking jobs properly they would never have to face an angry crowd who may resort to violence... Just saying

      Francois - 2012-01-21 07:35

      Megan, I fully agree. It is also a case that councillors must serve the people and not the ANC. If the ANC does not want to see people properly housed and want to use council seats as rewarding loyal cadres, then these loyal cadres are not serving the people, the either they or the puppet masters must pay.

      Activity Bookings - 2012-01-21 07:35

      They are trying to milk our tax money to benefit them in any possible way, we the stupid, must sit down and just pay it or go to jail.

      mariuskowie - 2012-01-21 07:43

      Councillor that do their job correctly are perfectly safe. The thieving ones there for the Gravy Train are at risk. Why the f___ must we pay them more money?

      carpejugulim - 2012-01-21 07:49

      Being a councillor is a privelidge and not a right and the sooner our concillors acknowledge thr responsibility and accountability that comes with the post the less protest and violence there will be

      George - 2012-01-21 08:00


      Chumscrubber1 - 2012-01-21 08:08

      Megan, thanks, you saved me the effort of posting a comment. I think most of us feel the same way as you.

      John - 2012-01-21 08:31

      ANC councillors had no problem travelling to Brazil on holidays paid by the TAXPAYERS. You have done the samba, now do the necklace! Now get what is coming to you!

      Jacqui - 2012-01-21 09:12

      While councillors serve their lord and master the ANC, let the party pay.

  • Larry - 2012-01-21 07:14

    Councillors get enough benefits. Its about time they did their job's, or at least did some meaningful work.

      George - 2012-01-21 10:03

      Has any one noticed that not one of the other parties has raised any concerns about this. They sit in the background and then reap the benefits

  • SeeVeeDeeEl - 2012-01-21 07:17

    We want more! We want more! If it's too risky for you, don't become a councilor. But yes, you are not there for the work, only more and more unearned benefits. The New South African way. The African way.

  • Ben - 2012-01-21 07:21

    The risk lies therein that these lazy people accept a monthly salary in a post where they refuse to do their duty. This salary is paid by the people whom they work for. Now you want to increase their remunuration. From now on, I am going to refuse to do my work and if the boss gives me any grief about it I want danger pay. Let them do what they are supposed to and there will be no violence.

  • amanda.terblans - 2012-01-21 07:25

    Councillors get enough money and benefits, if they actually did their jobs properly and served the people that voted them in they would not be at risk from angry mobs that they lied to and made false promises to .... ugh the gravy train same crap different day

  • Dewdawn - 2012-01-21 07:36

    The threat is fact but Luthuli House should cough up for this expense because they keep on deploying unqualified persons to serve in government spheres. Salga is populated by the deployment method. The answer is for the DA's "Fit for purpose" criteria must be legislated so that the right people will have to be selected to serve the people.

  • Van - 2012-01-21 07:36

    More councillors should be necklaced. It it will make the service delivery increase I'm all for it.

      robqb - 2012-01-21 10:01

      Don't you think that's a bit harsh? Those tyres could be put to a better use,ie in the docks to stop ships banging against the dock?

  • Anette - 2012-01-21 07:38

    What the heck. These people are already getting to much pay for no work. Maybe somebody should tell them "Do your job properly and you won't have problems". But then again we live in Africa the hand out continent.

  • duncan.cramer - 2012-01-21 07:42

    That's how we do it. Let's not deal with the underlying issues. Let's just stick on a band-aid at additional expense to the tax payer. 1. The police are already paid to deal with violence outbursts and riots 2. If you can't handle the crowds, then you're clearly no good at your job. So piss off and go and contribute to society somewhere.

  • Muskaan - 2012-01-21 07:43

    Please dont give them.

  • Attie - 2012-01-21 07:50

    surely they have insurances on their assets. if not then they are to blame for loosing their assets

  • SarelJBotha - 2012-01-21 07:50

    The people should start to do their work, act honestly and be of the highest moral fibre. Then they will never have to worry about them being threatened or in danger any way. In effect they now want the tax payer to foot a bill for things they and their party bring on themselves and that is another evil, being added to a long list of evils.

  • Mike - 2012-01-21 08:03

    Do your job and serve your people well, listen to their problems and do everything to fix them and you do not need "risk" benefits. But seeing the attitude and way councilors in general behave, what they do or rather not do, I am not surprised. If it is too "risky" well don't become a councilor than. Just another way to squander money... wasn't R not enough in the last year!?

  • Ian - 2012-01-21 08:06

    well if the lazy good for nothing , corrupt fat ass scum would do there jobs properly instead of stealing every day you wouldnt need risk benefits but no, stealing is all the anc rubbish know

  • Zion - 2012-01-21 08:15

    When paying tax and municipal rates and taxes and all the other contributions made to the councils and municipalities one would expect better service from the councillors. But these people, it seems, prefer to sit on their fat backsides doing nothing. Now and again a councillor can be seen standing on a heap of ground at a water mains pipe burst: Showing the world he has a hands-on attitude. When service is provided as per promises and politics then they would not need risk benefits to protect them from reality. In fact the workers and citizens should lobby for risk benefits because they are not getting benefits. Julle maak my siek.

  • Comrade - 2012-01-21 08:16

    Lets work this out......lazy incompetent Councillors want protection from the people who they abandon and deprive, and then want the same deprived desperate people to pay to protect the very person who is destroying depriving and abandoning their lives....OMG, this is wrong on every level!!!

      Heinrich - 2012-01-21 08:49

      This about sums it up, Comrade. The challenge is how to make the majority see this situation clearly,and then to change the system. There should be no political parties, but only elected professional managers leading municipalities serving the people.

  • Neeus - 2012-01-21 08:17

    Councillors, those that need benefits are the people who employ you. If you gave us a fair benefit for our tax and rates, maybe we would not begrudge you trying to syphon more of for your own benefit. At the moment it is very one sided and we therefore don't care what you think you are entitled to or need. Give us a return first, we pay the bill.

  • Vegi - 2012-01-21 08:20

    If they deliver, there will be no protests against them. The money to be spent on protecting these mostly useless councillors should be used to facilitate service delivery and there will be no service delivery protests thereafter.

      Heinrich - 2012-01-21 08:52

      Fully agree, Vegi. Our people have suffered long enough at the hands of Party politicians who are only in it for the money and the good life. Time to change this.

  • Zion - 2012-01-21 08:20

    Would a risk benefit actually get their vet-gatte into a township displaying the final stages of collapse?

      robqb - 2012-01-21 10:07

      @ Zion. NO!

  • Desmond - 2012-01-21 08:27

    Forget the counillors. Much rather give it to the unfortunate municipal officials who have to bear the brunt of the political decisions that get made by councillors which result in a premature breakdown of services.

      Tom - 2012-01-21 08:52

      Agree and nboit those at the top rather closer to the ground. Those that actually place themselves at risk of being attacked by angry residence due to the lack of interest from the councilors.

  • Nelia - 2012-01-21 08:28

    Councillors who do their jobs properly will not face the risk of being attacked or assaulted. We are already paying for a number on inexperienced people sitting around doing virtually nothing. That is, if you are lucky enough to find them in their offices. Now we have to pay for their protection. Will this protection insurance be cancelled when they leave office or are they going to benefit for ever and ever amen?

  • paullombard17 - 2012-01-21 08:38

    Councillors need risk soon they will want "Danger Pay" for speaking at meetings, risk benefits for the whole extended family of 1000+...whats next? This shouldnt even be up for debate..and if it is why not allow the mob crowd into the presidential and ministerial compounds to vent their anger..

  • Jason - 2012-01-21 08:41

    No. Now get back to work.

      Heinrich - 2012-01-21 08:56

      Good Jason! I would say : No ! You're fired !

      Piet - 2012-01-21 10:01

      Nuff said

  • Tom - 2012-01-21 08:50

    They wont need risk benefits if they do the work that they were elected to do. The problem is that they dissappear into this air after elected, and gain the benefits of the position. When confronted with a problem in their wards they are useless to say the least. Always pass the buck. Then gets a bonus of R62 000,00 rand after they lost the position, for good work delivered. Geeeezz I am so stupid to pay my taxes.......

  • Tshivhombela Fhatuwani - 2012-01-21 09:04

    The better way to avoid this risk is service delivery.

      Robi - 2012-01-21 12:39

      By the virtue of being elected does not mean they understand what service delivery is. Imagine if someone who has never studied teaching is appointed to teach children. The same goes with councillors

  • Jacqui - 2012-01-21 09:10

    Yes, and we run a risk everytime we go somewhere to be run down by a crazy taxy driver. Are we also eligible for extra money?. Geez.

  • errol.wagner - 2012-01-21 09:26

    Will someone please tell SALGA that if the local authorities stopped stealing and also actually did their work they would not need rish benefits. How difficult is it to see that?

  • Deeteem - 2012-01-21 09:28

    Hey Milisa, if councillors did their job there would be no need for people to be upset with you ne' !!

  • Robi - 2012-01-21 09:37

    I hope politician like Malema will understand why Councillors desert their communities after elected. It is not about choice,but risks they face everyday in their communities

      robqb - 2012-01-21 10:16

      @Robi. What are you on about? If those councilors did what they were employed to do, instead of buying flashy cars and "employing" buddies and generally wasting "our" money, they could safely walk the streets with heads held high and "no fear"!!

      Irene - 2012-01-21 10:28

      robqb ~ Robi is a troll and not worth a response.

      Robi - 2012-01-21 12:35

      Remember how Jesus Christ was killed. The same situation faces the councillors. How can they do their job best when skills never developed in them. They are there because they were elected not by serving their communities accordingly. They were not elected by the people, but by the party. The party should take neccessary steps to develop skills in councillors to serve communities very well.

  • Shirley - 2012-01-21 09:41

    Realy they cant be serious!!! Government created this violent behaviour firstly by failing to deliver on promises,not being severe enough on the perpetrators of this violence and employing councillors who are either too lazy or ill equipped for the job!! Typical Anc logic-pay "risk" money and fatten the fat and then ignore the real problem!

  • sam.swanpoel - 2012-01-21 09:44

    If the councillors carried out their duties responsibly and with intelligence they would not need protection in fact they will even improve their ample lifestile.

  • robqb - 2012-01-21 09:54

    Welders, Boilermakers, Fitters, Carpenters all have the risk of having a tool falling from a building or a ship with the risk of being injured or killed and do they get "risk benefits"? No Ways!! It goes with the job. If parliamentarians are to get risk benefits, what about the man in the street? He/she may be on his way to work and get injured by these unruly crowds. His motor vehicle that is parked in the street and get trashed, is it covered? If they feel they need this sort of cover I'm sure Old Mutual,Sanlam, and all the other insurance giants will oblige, at the parliamentarian's OWN expense. If they did their jobs as it is supposed to be done they wouldn't have to worry about rioters. Also, I feel, they are earning more than enough, for the little they do, to be able to afford taking out such an insurance. Aren't they milking the country enough already?

      Robi - 2012-01-21 12:53

      @robqb Cuoncillors risk benefit must correlate with service delivery benefit.

  • Lesley - 2012-01-21 09:58

    If they did the job they are paid to do there would not be protests.

      Robi - 2012-01-21 12:44

      @Lesley what job are u referring to? Do councillors understand the job. Until job is defined to them, services delivery will always be scarce resource.Skill development amongst councillors must be first priority when they are appointed.

  • Piet - 2012-01-21 09:59

    What these thugs need is accountabiliy and a stop to AA

  • jurgen.eksteen - 2012-01-21 10:30

    Do your jobs properly as is expected of you by everyone and there will be no public violence.

  • keketso.polisa1 - 2012-01-21 10:54

    Risk benefit? they can just as well get smile to the masses benefit.This gravy train is getting longer, eish! when are we going to get even the crumbs from the masters table?

  • Andrew - 2012-01-21 10:59

    Just do the job Councillor - then the risk will go away!

      Robi - 2012-01-21 12:48

      Not simple Andrew

  • Aubrey - 2012-01-21 11:07

    these idiots dont need risk management.they need to pull their finger out and do their work.

  • pws69 - 2012-01-21 11:46

    So, we must pay even more for ANC ineptitude and corruption? Lovely.

  • pws69 - 2012-01-21 11:54

    I already have to personally pay more for insurance, due to ANC SAPF corruption and incompetence. I already pay more for medical aid due to ANC Dept of Health corruption and incompetence. Ditto water, power, petrol, in fact everything. Why don't people just start voting DA? Best run Province: DA Best run Metro: DA Best run Municipality: DA Cleanest Municipality: DA Best Mayor in the world: DA Only province to show positive employment growth last year: DA These DA successes benefit EVERYONE - Black, coloured, indian, and white. For the love of all things holy, and my sanity, please people, start voting for what will benefit YOU, and not some thieving scum.

      Robi - 2012-01-21 12:47

      What about the Chinese,portugese, people?

  • lee.farrington - 2012-01-21 13:03

    rewards for not doing their job

  • TrueBlue - 2012-01-21 13:54

    They volunteered, or were volunteered to stand as councillors. No-one held a gun to their heads to do this work, the operative word being work. It is their job to ensure that their communities do not erupt into violence and it is their job to ensure that their wards get the improvements that their party has promised them. If they don't like their jobs and the risks that go with it, they must resign. It's a simple as that. But, these people, once in positions, want more for less. Let them take out insurance on their homes and get them to make sure that the police in their areas are effective. Once they have made improvements in their areas, and there is no risk of riots. and upheavals, then let's discuss pay rises and other benefits. This is especially pertinent to those areas where rates and taxes are not paid. Get the people to pay their due and then discuss benefits.

  • Margaret - 2012-01-21 16:47

    Doctors and nurses need risk benefits too, as there has been attacks on them in our hospitals. Many members of the public have also been attacked. How about risk benefits for the public to?????? What is happening there, is as a result of them not doing there jobs. They get fat salaries at the expense of the tax payers. There is an old saying " If you cant stand the heat, get out of the kitchen"

  • Francois Swais Fonternel - 2012-01-22 01:00

    I need it too what if i get robbed and assaulted somewhere... Hahaha

  • velilejonathan.williams - 2012-01-22 08:52

    I wonder who at SALGA has been made to believe that this is critical when it's actually just another way of ensuring that the insurance companies(if not one company)stand to gain money. This is exactly what Thabo Mbeki enlightened us in his USB speech on Knowledge that some of our leaders are made to believe the known and are deterred from knowing the objective truth. The other assumption is that some leader(s) from SALGA choose to believe this because they themselves stand to financial gain from the company(ies)they represent. A bigger risk to this pursuit by SALGA is that SALGA will soon see itselve representing the interests of certain companies and not its real objective truth.

  • krakitla - 2012-09-11 09:18

    councillors need to be covered at all costs. councillors houses in heidelberg,ratanda burned during unrest.government has not yet started to fix those houses.its important that they are covered.salga must stand for councillors and come out with resolutions to protect councillors.

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