Crime in Gauteng is a business - Petros

2011-10-07 12:16

Johannesburg - Most crimes in Gauteng are committed by intelligent, affluent people, provincial police commissioner Lieutenant General Mzwandile Petros said on Friday.

"Crooks in Gauteng don't wear jeans, they wear shirts and ties. They have beautiful clothes and cars and live in places like Bryanston and Hyde Park," he said.

Petros was speaking at the Consumer Goods Council of SA annual conference in Johannesburg.


He said most large-scale robberies were conducted through a system of organised planning.

"Look at something like bank robberies. You can't just go into a bank and rob it. You need to plan. These people are clever and our intelligence units are going to have to be ahead of them."

He said consumer bodies and businesses were directly affected by the levels of crime in the province.

"The rate of truck hijackings has decreased by 30%. This affects you because most of these trucks are transporting goods," Petros said.

"The most important thing we need to find a solution to is ATM bombings because if people are scared to go to the ATMs, then they won't have money to buy things from your businesses."

He said police had stepped up security in shopping centres from September ahead of the "festive season".

"People ask: 'Why September?' but by November it is already too late," he said.

"Crime in Gauteng is a business, they [criminals] also want to close on the 15th of December and go back to their own countries and provinces. They will then come back on the sixth of January to operate again, so we need to be ready beforehand."


Petros said corruption was the biggest obstacle in overcoming crime in the province.

"In all the crime that you hear about, the hand of law enforcement is always involved. If there is a robbery, there were police involved," he said.

"If there is a hijacking, there were police involved. If there is something about the Chinese mafia, the police are there. Something must be done."

He said the corporate image of police and detectives had to change.

"If someone knocks on your door and tries to rob you, trust that the detectives who knock on your door will do their best to try and help you," he said.

"We want you in this room to know we will intensify our work. Instead of five metre walls [in homes and businesses], we want to reduce it to two metre walls. One day we will make it safe so that there are no walls at all."

  • EnglishBoer - 2011-10-07 12:21

    So basically you are saying that the ANC is a business? What is it called? Maaifoedie Incorporated?

      Bardy - 2011-10-07 12:30


      Matt :-) - 2011-10-07 12:37

      Is it just me, or have News24 removed the comments function altogether today on certain articles - especially relating to a certain octogenarian and a certain patient?

      GypseyAnn - 2011-10-07 12:45

      @ Matt - I think you are right, I am finding the same thing About this report - after watching Special Assignment last night it seems as though Mzwandile Petros is not quite as innocent as we seem to think. Skeletons are coming out of the woodwork at a rapid rate. Then again, perhaps he has moved to the right province :)

      Really1 - 2011-10-07 12:48

      So the scum that bashed the old guy to death in Benoni is affluent and intelligent. The scum that hacked the male and female to death and drowned the 13 year old boy in the bath was intelligent and affluent. But then again, the scum that is involved with the tender and lease fraud is intelligent and affluent, affluent because of the money they have stolen to date.

      THE-SRG - 2011-10-07 12:55

      hey news 24...whats up with all the closed doors and deleted comments?...afraid to see how people feel?

      Rialine Steyn - 2011-10-07 13:03

      and associates (SAPD, Gauteng Metro Police, Department of Home affairs.... etc.)

      Matt :-) - 2011-10-07 13:03

      Maybe the info bill was passed at 12pm and we weren't told

      Fredster69 - 2011-10-07 13:11

      Most crimes in Gauteng are committed by intelligent, affluent people...and the violent crimes? ... animals!!!

      Allrightythen - 2011-10-07 13:34

      A car came out of a Filling Station with cameras and rode into me while I was on a bike 2 years ago...all the cops had to do was ask for the footage and video footage, and they did not bother. My house was broken into in the 1 hour there was no one at home everyday and they had just finished a front wall by my neighbour where they could see the maid leaving and arriving...obviously they should have been interigated...but the cops did not....are they in on the profits or just incredibly incompetant?

      Matt :-) - 2011-10-07 13:36

      @ Allrightythen - my guess is "couldn't find Wally on the cover of a Where's Wally book" - our flat was broken into in March, the crook left loads of fingerprints, blood stains (= DNA), not a word since. Guy downstairs was broken into in the same afternoon - so obviously the same crook - no, SAPS opened up 2 dockets for 2 cases with 2 investigators from 2 branches... (facepalm)

  • Darwinian - 2011-10-07 12:24

    So the shirts and ties must be blue.....

  • BigMoose - 2011-10-07 12:29

    Difficult to tell the difference between a gangster and a politician. They all wear smart clothes, drive expensive cars and live in luxury, at our expense.

      allie - 2011-10-07 13:15

      Petros ,you are just as big a fool as your masters.It`s your AA policy that is degrading your policeforce.

  • Dr. No - 2011-10-07 12:32

    "Crooks in Gauteng don't wear jeans, they wear shirts and ties. They have beautiful clothes and cars and live in places like Bryanston and Hyde Park," What he forgot to mention are the ANC membership cards that can be found in the pockets of these people.

      d2eguy - 2011-10-07 12:47

      and most receive a salary from the SAP

      Thandi - 2011-10-07 15:17

      Come now - didn't you know we have the fastest cops in the world - they are often the first to arrive at a crime scene - usually just before the crime is committed.

      Koos Poggenpoel - 2011-10-07 16:05

      LOL @ Thandi - Have you tried a foot race with one of our hugely overweight men in blue to the nearest have 2 chances, that is the only time the police is quick:)

  • Benzo - 2011-10-07 12:33

    Well done mr Petros. And we all thought that the links between the criminal world and the SAP were well established and almost in the open.

  • PilgrimX - 2011-10-07 12:34

    When caught, these purpetrators need to pay outstanding taxes on their crime profits - then jail the maaifoedies.

  • fussed - 2011-10-07 12:35

    HA HA HA Like f@%$&%ng hell maaifoedies

  • Geraldo Mc phu - 2011-10-07 12:36

    These days I'm more scared of someone who drives a flashy car than someone wearing a dirty (name witheld) takkie walking towards me...s'true what Mr Petros is saying ...

  • Gucci - 2011-10-07 12:40

    Lets look at paying Police(civil servants)a living wage for them to survive normaly, i know you will still get greedy bastards that will still commit crimes however we need to minimise the problem.

      Rinus Eckard - 2011-10-07 13:34

      Surviving monthly does not really depend on your income. I know people with very high incomes and yet they cannot make it to the end of the month. Surviving monthly has more to do with financial literacy than income. It's Fairly basic math. Ask me for a lesson. I'll give it in 1 sentence.

  • candida.reid - 2011-10-07 12:41

    I love South Africa, and miss my country but after 4 cars being stolen my house being broken into and mugged to many times to count I decided it was time to move. Uk weather is crap but at least the cops uphold the law instead for trying to benefit from crime.

  • BigAl - 2011-10-07 12:41

    Police wages R7k per month plus the corruption sideline most have R25k That’s R32k a month, not bad for a job with all the extras. 1 free clothing. 2 free gun. 3 free transport with private use of police car (shopping – school runs) 4 free sex in police cell if you fancy her. The list is endless wow what a job, where do I apply.

      Gamerforlife - 2011-10-07 12:57

      Plus if you higher up in the rank and they catch you with your hand in the cookie jar you get FULL paid suspension aka HOLIDAY

      nkosikhonorman.ludidi - 2012-11-07 08:15

      @BigAI i wonder where do you get this nonsense

  • LOLWUT - 2011-10-07 12:41

    So what you are saying in short is that they are more educated then the cops -

  • Lihle - 2011-10-07 12:44

    @Petros: Sir you're absolutely right. Dont put your energies in law enforcement - follow the New York City example. Get SARS to do a lifestyle test (or whatever its called) and compare declared earnings vs cost of existing lifestyle. Guaranteed you'll end crime in two years AND you'll have jails full of those people you (and we) suspect. The policeman with three homes in Bryanston and on a cop's salary; the unemployed Nigerian refugee driving the latest BM; game farmers with suspect business links with China (rhino horn & abalone!!); ANCYL members with R50000 watches; "comrades" with a fistful of tenders; air hostesses with multi-million rand houses etc etc. PLEASE, follow through your suspicions.

      Ebutu - 2011-10-07 12:58

      @Lihle: If SARS does the lifestyle test most of the rich impeoralist white people aka Whity Basson etc will be on the street. Cant you see the need to have Julius Malema as our next president. Most of the privalged whites you post comments are racists. There time will come!!! Melema will help us to new wealth. Then I will braai some boerewors.

  • jen - 2011-10-07 12:45

    Just a few weeks ago Zuma said that crime happens because of poverty and because whites took all the opportunities from blacks and that is the reason that prisons are full of black offenders. Now Petros is telling us the criminals are walking in Gucci loafers and DC suits. And nogal live Hyde Park, Bryanston (the mayor lives there in her multimillion renovated house. All those rapists, axe murderers, body-chopper-uppers, middle of the night murderers, etc are in fact wealthy business men from affluent areas? going on their annual Christmas holiday to Balito, Plettenberg Bay and Cape Town?

  • Buffoon - 2011-10-07 12:47

    Really Petros, what is new. Please give us some new news. And also tell us what has happened with the case where Stompie's murderer was in the car that was stopped for speeding and reckless driving.

  • Kiepies - 2011-10-07 12:47

    Yes Space Cadet Mzwandile Petros, of course they have beautiful clothes and cars and lives in places like Bryanston and Hyde Park, because they stole all our valuables from our houses (like us who have been burgled five times and even my old jalopie Toyota Corrola was collected for this cause) and then they sold the hot stuff and took the proceeds (monies) to buy their nice houses and cars in the nice white and rich areas!!! I think its time to also become a crook/criminal and work as crime does pay as per your WORDS!!! And please do not try and make an effort to curb these crimes as you will only add to more poverty and I'm hungry individuals begging on street corners! Shame on you!!

      Ebutu - 2011-10-07 13:02

      @Kiepies: You see. Our great leader Julius Malema has carefully thought through the African delema. We as young black people support him. He has strategies in place to reduce crime. But first privalged people must pay a wealth tax based on the size of their houses/mansions. The we can all live together in harmoney.

      EnglishBoer - 2011-10-07 13:12

      Ebuttwipe a great leader does not go to hospital for a runny nose....only a maaifoedie leader does that.

      Wade Mackintosh - 2011-10-07 13:12

      @ebutu - what strategies does malema have exactly? the only strategy he has is how pillage more from the poor and where his next kfc bucket will come from

      Kiepies - 2011-10-07 13:20

      @Ebutu Eh eh eh, poor thing, not even with language and spell checker on Windows could you enhance your vocabulary or spelling skills NEVER EVER has there been equality in the history or present nor in the future - like the saying goes TOO MANY CHIEFS AND NO INDIANS... go figure this if you can genius!!

      Matt :-) - 2011-10-07 13:34

      @ Ebutu - let us discuss this great leader Malema, he is... *atchoo* sorry, I coughed - that's me done, I'm off to hospital

  • jerhone - 2011-10-07 12:49

    this revelation took the maaifoedie force 17 years to find out - 2011-10-07 13:01

      Yea, just thinking the same and that goes for all the problems. They wait until it's broken or destroyed and then tax you more because it's going to cost a lot to fix or replace and they don't have the money!

  • Wade Mackintosh - 2011-10-07 12:59

    what BS! A suit does not a businessman make. The criminals are just prepared to do the crime. Are the police "prepared" to tackle crime. NO! just some more criminals in a uniform

  • EnglishBoer - 2011-10-07 12:59

    Malema walks into the doctors office with a chimpanzee on his shoulder... Doctor: Have you come to see me about that disgusting growth on your backside? Malema: No doctor I have the flu... Doctor: I was talking to the chimp.

      Ebutu - 2011-10-07 13:21

      @englishboer: This is very concerning that white people like you can redecule our great future leader. You are an agent and need to go to england or australia and share your miserable racists life there not here in africa. Viva Ju Ju Viva.

      GuyverXT9 - 2011-10-07 13:26

      @Ebutu: There is nothing great about Julius Malema. He's a disgrace to humanity and deserves to be 6 feet under and forgotten about. Feel free to take the open grave next to him, the world doesn't need more morons.

      Matt :-) - 2011-10-07 13:38

      @ EnglishBoer - One day, Malema walked into the bar... eina, off to hospital

      JuLoose - 2011-10-08 15:27

      Who is this idiot Ebutu? Malema, is that you? Stop interrupting the adults and go play with yourself in the corner! Bloody Agent!

  • Rinus Eckard - 2011-10-07 12:59

    1. I would like to see the statistics from where he deduct his statementd. 2. Are they not maybe rich and afluant due to their crimes?

  • Sisie - 2011-10-07 13:02

    If you are only waking up to the fact now - then i feel sorry for you. The people who live in this Gangster Province has known that all along. But it is also a well know fact that ANC and cadres have been stealing from the coffers for years - or is that a new one for you too. Is it an election year coming up? The only time ANC talk about such things is when it's an election coming - promising everything and delivering nothing. We can talk the talk but can't walk the walk.

      Ebutu - 2011-10-07 14:14

      @Sisie: The ANC will stay in power we will never be destroyed by imperalists. The ANC is for the poor peepole of our country. The rich white peeople are scared that they will loose their illgotten gains from apartheid. I long to see my Malema standing in Parliment bring about the new Balck Revolution. Viva Malema Viva JUJU.

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      EnglishBoer - 2011-10-07 13:09

      They went to Maaifoedieland...

      Matt :-) - 2011-10-07 13:19

      Someone was scared... so apparently we may not comment in regards to a certain octogenarian or a certain maaifoedie with the sniffles

      GuyverXT9 - 2011-10-07 13:27

      @LOLWUT: Censorship at its best. A sign of things to come once the info bill is passed. Maaifoedies!! All of them.

  • Ozymandios - 2011-10-07 13:08

    This man is now admiting that the Police are bascally crooks and are involved in most crimes. Yet his boss (Cele) says the opposite. This is so typical of our men in blue or whatever colour they are dressed in. For what is mentioned in this article (if it can be believed) is that there is more than likely a cop or cops involved in just about most of the crimes committed in this country. Now that's marvelous!! Well done to the Maaifoedies. I am too scared, if a detective knocks on my door, to believe he is not a criminal if this is the case and will refuse to open my door at all. So when the police come to my front door now I must first phone the local police station to confirm they are police and if they say yes then further enquire if they are actualy on police business. Who knows the guy on the phone at the cop station maybe in on the heist as well. I can't ask them to come and check up because they will(as they have done before when I had a burglary) tell me they don't have enough vehicles. No doubt like the 3 Metro Police caught in a car with false number plates, ( how can we trust these police)embarking on possibly robbing someone somewhere in my neighbourhood.We have so much to thank the ANC Circus for all this chaos and just plain incompetence. What a great place to live in! Yet, I get the feeling that things are changing in the Big House in Pretoria and we may soon find some new people in there who actually care about their citizens.

  • Mike or Mpho - 2011-10-07 13:10

    no $h!t Sherlock

  • LOLWUT - 2011-10-07 13:25

    aha - now that you know that they look like are you going to arrest some of them?

  • WhiteMalema - 2011-10-07 13:25

    "Crooks in Gauteng don't wear jeans, they wear shirts and ties. They have beautiful clothes and cars and live in places like Bryanston and Hyde Park," he said, forgetting to mention that 65% of them are employed by the ANC, and 20% work directly under some chap named Mzwandile. The balance (25%) is low life robbers, child molesters, murderers and rapists with no fear of the legal implications, as we have no death penalty or any form of punishment which deters them. Instead, they all have improvement of life quality if they are lucky enough to be caught!

      JuLoose - 2011-10-08 15:23

      you forgot to mention that the 25% are also card-carrying members of the ANCYL.

  • Jacob - 2011-10-07 13:26

    Many years ago the question was asked "who will guard the guards?"

  • Dudley - 2011-10-07 13:44

    The ANC are running this country - INTO THE GROUND - IVE SAID IT BEFORE- DUMB , IGNORANT AND STUPID PEOPLE DONT KNOW THAT THAT THEY ARE ALL THESE I was hijacked outside my house by 3 very well dressed blacks - they took my bakkie and my wallet including my drivers and gun licence I go to the Police Station in Pinetown to apply for a new Gun licence and get told by a very overwieight black female "YOU WILL NOT GET A NEW LICENCE BECAUSE YOU WERE IRRESPONSBLE' LOSING YOUR LICENCE HUH ?? Who has the mentality to employ these dopes ? Bet you in the good old bad days of apartheid this would not have happened !

      GuyverXT9 - 2011-10-07 13:52

      You should have taken her gun and put a cap in her ass. Another moron employed thanks to moronic ANC government policies. Where are the standards you ask? There are none!!!

      Ebutu - 2011-10-07 14:10

      @Dudley: You see again white racist haterid; we can never unite as one nation. However we all need Malema. White tax is the only solution. Also white peepole should think about taking in disadvantaged families inot their rich homes. But this is also on our (ANCYL) agenda. Viva JUJU

      Martinet De Bruyn - 2011-10-07 15:39

      @Ebutu; maybe your brain has capsized...? Go play somewhere else, let the "rich, white imperialists" adults talk a bit. Maybe go do some work so we don't have to pay for you for everything in your miserable life?

  • mike881 - 2011-10-07 13:53

    News flash for you petros - Crime in SA is a business, just ask the government!

  • barry.mcbride - 2011-10-07 13:55

    Won’t it be easy to spot the crooks if they’re only wearing shirts and ties?

  • Cire - 2011-10-07 14:12

    I didn't ask 'why September?'. Only too happy to see the police doing their job - not that it happens very often.

  • Antwahn - 2011-10-07 14:18

    Petros is right! (Everything is relative.) What he actually meant was: "most crimes are committed by individuals with an IQ higher than 80" which puts him -and his lazy, corrupt moronic cops, at a disadvantage that can't be overcome. It takes a CLEVER (honest) thief to catch a thief.... Hence Petros' implicit admission that they can't win. But big kudos to Petros for his honesty -his pointing to corruption within SAPS is refreshing. (Also an admission that the crooks have won already.)

  • beicime - 2011-10-07 14:20

    The ANC government allowed it to develop.

  • kilo39 - 2011-10-07 14:24

    Until fear can be instilled in criminals, they will carry on regardsless. Committing a crime must have consequences for you and your family, period. This is the only way.

  • jen - 2011-10-07 15:04

    He forgot to mention that they alson wear robes and also occupy the back seat of the luxury vechile in a black car, blue light convoy, causing accidents and chaos as they go.

  • Prof Sapphire - 2011-10-07 16:29

    The rich dont take lives while commiting crime...

  • Ddv - 2011-10-07 18:35

    Police closed my case as they do not believe the stalker I have is worth investigating as it a waste of taxpayers money. I am a taxpayer!!!!!!

  • Ddv - 2011-10-07 18:42

    Oh and my house was broken into by a well dressed white guy in a BMW pretending to be assessing my house for insurance. He came back again this week in a Durban car pretending to be a debt collector.

  • rasklot - 2011-10-07 19:43

    "These people are clever and our intelligence units are going to have to be ahead of them."..........then you had better employ intelligent cops

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