Crime levels declining - report

2011-06-13 09:21

Johannesburg - Crime levels seem to be on the decline throughout South Africa, The Times newspaper reported on Monday.

Police, members of community policing forums, security companies and analysts agreed that crime levels were dropping due to co-operation between the law enforcement agencies and communities.

"Perpetrators see we are working together, which seems to be deterring them," Chubb security spokesperson Alison Bull told the newspaper.

ADT Security Services' national operations director Keith Alberts said there was a "significant decrease" in house break-ins and armed robberies since last year.

"I believe we are still benefiting from extra resources deployed during the World Cup. We are seeing a far more pro-active approach to crime prevention," he said.

Institute for Security Studies crime analyst Johan Burger said Consumer Goods Council of SA figures showed retail armed robbery fell from 282 in 2009 to 159 last year, while burglaries in the sector fell from 426 to 311.

Robberies in the sector caused a loss of R19.36m in 2009 but fell to R10.03m in 2010, while burglaries went down from R19.97m in 2009 to R10.07m last year.

Gauteng police spokesperson Katlego Mogale said a comparison of figures last year for different Johannesburg suburbs with statistics from corresponding periods this year showed a significant decrease.

  • ReThan - 2011-06-13 09:28

    i doubt this is true!

      cliffarc - 2011-06-13 09:51

      - Oh yea right - much like our matric pass rate is zooming up.

      Captainmorgan - 2011-06-13 10:32

      Whoever wrote this rubbish should try eating their corn flakes & not smoking them , maybe the reporting of crime is declining but definately not the crime

      Krush - 2011-06-13 10:38

      The ONLY thing that is the dropping is the crimes reported. People don't report crime anymore because nothing gets done about it. Infact, who knows, you might just get shot in your car at the police station because they think you're a "hijacker."

      umlaut - 2011-06-13 10:46

      Yes we all doubt it--but if the figures are true we welcome it. We hope that its not due to creative statistics from the police dept. Murder isn't mentioned here as a separate statistic. We can only hope that we are not being fooled by political tricks. What about farm murders--do they also fall under armed robbery? The report seems incomplete?

      motsokwane - 2011-06-13 10:46

      Statistically crime is reducing but not in the africanners mind.

      Creeky - 2011-06-13 11:17

      I tend to agree with you on that one...

      ReThan - 2011-06-13 11:54

      Funny how i have 120+ thumbs down, how many of you really think this is true? All you who clicked a thumb down are blind idiots.

      Sean - 2011-06-13 13:59

      @ReThan Blind idiots? Not a good attitude to have when debating Also, that is a similar attitude that all dictators have had in the past Why does no one want to accept empirical evidence that shows positive change? If you hate this country so much then I'll pack your bags for you and buy you all plane tickets. Life is tough when you are no longer superior If these reports are true then well done to all those involved who brought these positive results.

      MoZaHo - 2011-06-14 07:43

      @Sean : You are in denial my friend. Rape, Murder, and senseless killing is higher than ever. South Africa has just grown so accustomed to it. And believe me, if I could afford a plane ticket out, and also, get a visa to get out of this god forsaken country, I would. But unfortunately, I've spent all my hard earn cash on safety measures, and my tax is fueling the governments pointless spending. So pull your head out of your ass, and see whats really going on. I DARE you to go walk around any major SA city at night, and see if you don't get mugged, raped, shot, and who knows what else. And I bet you, that you won't. So until it becomes safe to do so, I will continue to blame the police, our so called president and his bunch of merry men, and every other fool who votes these morons into power!

  • Trevor Obery - 2011-06-13 09:30

    I have no idea what the statisticians are smoking...but if you read todays news, and compare it to last week's news...attacks seem to be more brazen and more cruel. Yes there has been a decline in cash-in-transit heists but ATM bombings are the new order of the day.

      kalabafazi - 2011-06-13 09:31

      Agreed, just look at the story on the same page.

      Darter - 2011-06-13 09:51

      So ADT, ISS and Chubb are also wrong? I see...

      Mikemcc - 2011-06-13 10:04

      @Darter, what none of the companies mentioned is whether the number of clients using their systems has changed. If the number of clients went down then even though the instances of crime dealt with by them have gone down it may in actual fact have increased in a per capita basis. Stats are all very well but they have to be looked at very carefully before drawing conclusions such as these.

      Darter - 2011-06-13 10:10

      @Mikemcc - And with such sky-high crime rates, why would their client base decrease? Add to that the general mistrust of police, people turn towards private security more and more every day. Infact we can leave private security out of this and focus on the's basically their job to track and record such figures as accurately as possible. The ISS isn't run by some BEE wannabe, so whenever they make any statements it tends to be as close to the truth as you'll get (taking into account 1 or 2 fluctuations in stats).

      Lee - 2011-06-13 10:17

      And violent crime? Stats please. Its a flawed system of reporting so the stats are false but well done on the advertising of your companies. Employ these people they will bring crime down. Jokers.

      cliffarc - 2011-06-13 10:27

      - I'd like to see the stats from the vehicle tracking company's. @ Darter - The period under review covers the SWC ,when policing was dramatically increased. Just maybe The ADT's and Chubbs are not that involved in areas where crime is increasing. I would 'nt be getting my hopes up too high at this stage.

      CB57 - 2011-06-13 11:04

      Actually Darter, they probably are right in the statistics they have ie the people who can afford expensive security measures. The statistics they DON'T have is for the average joe in the suburbs and townships that cannot afford their services!

      Darter - 2011-06-13 11:11

      @CLIFFARC - Vehicle tracking companies have already said that car highjackings have fallen by 50% since 2002 (google it if you want). Read this full article on "that other SA online paper" and you'll see that this period of decline also includes the 1st half of 2011.

      cliffarc - 2011-06-13 11:53

      - @Darter - carry on convincing yourself - at your peril . Your choice.

      DP - 2011-06-13 12:05

      Darter I ran multiple google searches about hijacking being down 50%, cannot find any articles that state anything close to that, mind giving us some more info on this?

      cliffarc - 2011-06-13 12:26

      - Darter - hijackings down 50 % - we'd all like to see you back that one up.

      Sean - 2011-06-13 14:01

      Why are you guys attacking someone so viciously? Mob mentality because his reality and positivity scares you? I know someone who works high up in the police and this echoes what he's told me It's a shame you are all so quick to attack people and give them thumbs down to make you feel better

      cliffarc - 2011-06-13 14:51

      - @ Sean - Hmm - But not as viciously as the attacks on the poor farmers.

      Sean - 2011-06-13 15:10

      So does that make it alright? I'm not trying to say that killing farmers is ok, sorry if that is what I came across in believing

  • Darter - 2011-06-13 09:30

    WEll done to the SAPS and private security companies. Crime (especially in Gauteng) has definitely been on the decrease, but we still have a long way to go. It's hard to believe such statements when the front page of this paper is running a story on a couples murder, but we're getting there. Car highjackings have decrease by 50% since 2002. If they could just bring down house robberies in the next year or that we can actually feel safe in our homes. Ofcourse not everyone will believe this article since crime obviously fluctuates, and your particular area may be experiencing a spike in crime.

      DP - 2011-06-13 11:56

      SAPS Stats 2003/4 = 14 694 Hijackings 2009/10 = 15 314 50% drop Darter?

      Darter - 2011-06-13 12:53

      DP - Ok I should have been specific and double checked. I was talking about Gauteng (the home of hijacking) in terms of a decrease in hijackings, and the 50% is with regards to vehicle theft (which is sometimes grouped with hijackings) And I'm not sure where you got your numbers, but the PDF I'm looking at says 13 793 for 2003/2004 nationally. Anyways, just google "sharp decline in vehicle theft" and open the 2nd link from engineeringnews. That was basically a summary of the article I read last year. The full article included statements from tracking companies stating how the number of claims they get from customers for theft/hijacking has decreased since 2002/2003, even though their customer base has increased quite a bit since that time.

      DP - 2011-06-13 13:10

      My figures are from the SAPS stats, on their website, just note truck and car hijackings are not grouped together, I added the 2 together for both years. I found your article, they do not give any references, however they did say all theft of motorised vehicles. The SAPS stats for that is: 2003/4 - Car Jacking 13793 Truck Jacking 901 Theft of motor vehicle 88144 Total 102838 2009/10 Car Jacking 13902 Truck Jacking 1412 Theft of motor vehicle 71776 Total 87909 This is a 15% drop roughly. If we include Theft out of motor vehicles then we have 2003/4 - 171982 2009/10 = 120862 Which is still about 25% reduction in total. Maybe there is another category that is including to reach the 50% drop that I am not aware of. (I Checked drunk driving and that rose by almost 200%)

      DP - 2011-06-13 13:12

      Just to clarify for everyone, this is the article in engineeringnews, by Irma Venter, 12th May 2010. Motor vehicle crime had decreased by 50% since 2002 - this according to the South African Insurance Association (SAIA). Motor vehicle crime involved vehicles being taken from their rightful owners by means of theft, hijacking and/or fraud. SAIA on Tuesday handed over R1,7-million to the Business Against Crime (BAC) initiative to continue with its efforts to combat crime in South Africa. SAIA had directed more than R10-million to BAC South Africa over an eight-year period. SAIA chairperson Ronnie Napier said that while "incidences of vehicle theft had reduced greatly over the years, there was no room for complacency concerning crime". The association's donation for the first time flowed from all of its members this year, and not only SAIA's motor insurance members.

  • Slapper - 2011-06-13 09:31

    Maybe petty crime is decreasing, but it seems to me that Murder, Fraud, Corruption is increasing. Not a day goes by without a major Scandal from ANC is exposed, a Family is murdered, or some clown runs away with the life savings of a group.

  • SexyTshepo - 2011-06-13 09:33

    I'd imgaine this is because of the poor criminal conviction rate.... we are getting less convictions in court due to the police not knowing how to do police work.... hence the decline in the crime report.....

      Darter - 2011-06-13 09:50

      Go sleep....this isn't about convictions. It's about the number of reported crimes, long before a suspect is even caught. Community policing forums, private security, followed by sector police have the most accurate crime figures in their area. And if you say people no longer report crimes, would you chill with a dead body after a murder and say nothing? Or would you not tell a soul if you got hijacked in your driveway? I think not.

      Lee - 2011-06-13 10:25

      Darter 27 cars in 19 days got stolen in my area. Private security companies are in competition with each other and hardly share info. I can ask any of the big 2 companies (which I have) they don't know this or won't tell me. Luckly i know an old police officer who does know stats. If your car has no tracker then it also applies to stats PSC will have. Police do not have to provide any stats to PSC anyway you believe what you read, violent crime is up. Crime is up on Security estates. Go figure.

      CraigColinRoyMcLeod - 2011-06-13 10:48

      I agree with SexyTshepo on this 100%.

  • - 2011-06-13 09:34

    Good news! Naturally the haters will deny it.

      Kevin King - 2011-06-13 11:29

      If you were CEO and your company's profit improved from a 100 million loss to a 90 million loss, how would you be sleeping at night? Funny how the article is about crime but murder is not mention. 89 murders per day was the last figure reported by Interpol.

      Kevin King - 2011-06-13 11:30

      But yes maybe a little bit of good news assuming the statistics are accurate.

      cliffarc - 2011-06-13 12:00

      - Tell you what dave, the ' haters ' ( Of what ?)are'nt the issue. It's the victims of crime that matter - and they gonna deny it.

  • Ruff-ian - 2011-06-13 09:35

    clearly jippoed

  • heebeejeebee - 2011-06-13 09:36

    Well, if the stats are accurate and legitimate, I would like to extend a big "Thank you!" and "Well done!" to the SAPS. Let's give credit where its due.

  • Anchor101 - 2011-06-13 09:37

    The number of crimes are as high as ever. The police is just looking the other way now.

  • Gorilla - 2011-06-13 09:38

    Tell that to the family of the recently murdered old couple in Vereeneging. Who are trying to kid?

  • ?????? - 2011-06-13 09:44

    Cmon man,do they think we are idiots? Crime never declines,it just RELOCATES

  • koolaid - 2011-06-13 09:46

    β€œIn a time of deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act.” β€” George Orwell

      Kevin King - 2011-06-13 11:36

      "In a time of deceit, telling the truth is an anti-revolutionary act" - Julius Malema

  • Stella - 2011-06-13 09:48

    There is NO way that I will actually believe thi - not after reading the newspaper everyday. And that is only the half of it.

  • eJay - 2011-06-13 09:51

    oh please. We just no longer bother to report the 'lesser' crimes like smash and grab (very aggressive act imo) cell phone thefts, laptops, stuff out of cars. Pedestrian muggings etc. because it is POINTLESS to do so. !! Wake up SAPS

  • XAD - 2011-06-13 09:56

    Reclassification of crime, and unwillingness of police stations to record your case will help the stats come down. But, for us living in real life, this is definitely not the case.

  • kaz - 2011-06-13 09:57

    love to know where they get all the stats as everyday crime is reported on new 24

      Darter - 2011-06-13 10:03

      Love to know where you got your education, because nowhere in the article did it say that there is no crime in SA. It said there is a decline...hence news24 will keep reporting on the matter for a long time to come.

      Morne Loubser - 2011-06-13 10:31

      @Darter dude, read through todays headlines...about criminals breaking out of jail and going on crime spree's...their stats are wrong dude. And I don't think Kaz implied to NO crime in SA...only that the stats can't be accurate if you read the news.

      Darter - 2011-06-13 11:02

      MORNE LOUBSER - You aren't making sense. Do we now base stats on what the editor of some paper decides to put on the front page? Following your logic, only two major crimes were commited in SA today....the couples' murder and the jailbreak/crimespree. Obviously not....there were hundreds (if not thousands) of other crimes commited, but the point is that the overall number is decreasing. News24 plays no part whatsover in this, exept maybe to highlight the few stories that they think we as the reader will respond the most to.

  • Iron John - 2011-06-13 09:58

    Well, if it comes from SAP I don't believe a word. However, if it comes from a credible 3rd party (and no, security firms are neither independent nor credible) then one can listen up. I'm not sure their voice has been represented adequately in this article.

  • Rika van der Post - 2011-06-13 10:13

    Who do they think they are fooling!!! Just read the story above this one. We are not all as stupid as they are.

  • Mdavu-zn - 2011-06-13 10:16

    Not South Africa right? Wake me up if its a dream. Never on earth. It can't be this corrupt itself country and then you beleive the lies that the crime (country's core function) is reduced. NEVER!!!!!!!!!!!

      Mdavu-zn - 2011-06-13 10:20

      If you don't beleive me then simply check the news here in news24. Who's the liar? me or the statistics that shows that the crime level is reduced??? Come on guys.

  • Illuminus - 2011-06-13 10:17

    Police are only able to report on cases of conviction. Did you know that your chances of getting away with crime in SA are basically 99%? Of course this data is untrue since criminals are hardly convicted and the sad truth is that crimes such as rape are incredibly difficult to get a conviction for. NEVER trust these statistics so long as they are measured only by convictions. Even if they were simply measuring the rate of crime, if a woman is assaulted by her husband multiple times, they are classed as different assaults further skewing the stats and making it seem as if many individuals are committing the crime.

      jka - 2011-06-13 13:14

      Its not absed on convictions but on reports. Don't be daft. Read the article and comments before commenting.

  • Kimayne - 2011-06-13 10:18

    Oh please.......who do they think they are fooling?? I was blessed with brains to see otherwise.....and on that note well done to the 72 year woman who held her own ground, shot and killed the intruder that bound and robbed her. I would do the same

  • Mike or Mpho - 2011-06-13 10:19

    I would like to believe these statisitics, but I am very sceptical, like most of South africans

  • Kimayne - 2011-06-13 10:21

    Oh please????? Who do they think they are fooling??? By the way the sky is falling folkes?? Well done to the 72 year old lady who held her ground, shot and killed her intruder that robbed and bound her, I would have done the same cause CLEARLY crime is still a huge problem in our lovely rainbow rebulic and not enough is being done.

  • Morne Loubser - 2011-06-13 10:27

    And in other headlines, a murderer and rapist ALLEGEDLY escaped prison and went on a "CRIME SPREE"...this was on the HOME PAGE when I logged onto news24.

  • Wendy - 2011-06-13 10:30

    Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!!!!!!!!! Seriaaaaaaas?!!!!! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!!!!!!!!! And it's not even 1 April?!

  • Almaki - 2011-06-13 10:34

    Why do they only mention actual numbers for retail robberies? I'd much prefer to see the statistics for domestic robbery, murder, rape and assault. Then we can speak of "crime levels declining".

  • jowza - 2011-06-13 10:35

    catching criminals seem to be on the decline

  • Mighty_Whitey - 2011-06-13 10:35

    Absolute Garbage, I have never felt so unsafe in South Africa. Over 15 hijackings in my neighborhood in 2 weeks and a neighbor brutally murdered in our road. I believe crime is worse than it has ever been. I stay in a middle class neighborhood in the east rand of Joburg.

  • dotty_01 - 2011-06-13 10:41

    I find this incredibly hard to believe..... if news24 isa gauge of crime levels, then they are as high as ever before.

  • motsokwane - 2011-06-13 10:42

    Statistically crime is reducing but not in the africanners mind.

  • zulufox - 2011-06-13 10:47

    I don't have a problem with crime because it is everywhere... It's the violent nature of it that is a cause for concern...

  • Charles N - 2011-06-13 10:47

    Not so in Orange Grove. Places are now being hit daily there, and then again once insurance pays out. All the thieves do is move to another area when the police in one area step up their game. I suppose the facts depend on how well each area reports its crime. We need a cohesive plan across all police groups in the country.

  • CraigColinRoyMcLeod - 2011-06-13 10:47

    not according to the UN. They are fudging numbers, I know a few station commanders who were told in no uncertain terms to lower the figures. Ignorance is not bliss, it just means you are less prepared for the evil that will befall you.

      umlaut - 2011-06-13 11:25

      How could they do this? do they throw the reports away or must they fill in separate statistics on forms.? If this is true then the station commanders are also committing crimes. Imagine with the proposed anc secrets bill, they can lower these statistics dramatically to close to zero.

  • Numsa - 2011-06-13 10:55

    crime is better so b grateful to anc for freeing u from opresion give us chance as this is from apartheid and takes long to fix AMANDLA viva peace be upon Malema who will fix this!

      umlaut - 2011-06-13 11:30

      @numsa#. How will malema fix this--? "crime is better" probably meaning crime is 'down'? So he will fix this--will he push it up again?

      Felix - 2011-06-13 14:06

      Obvious troll.... dah?

      Wayne - 2011-06-13 14:26

      It only increased from 1994 onwards so clearly its a product of the ANC.

  • kevin - 2011-06-13 10:56

    Decreasing, this is complete bullsh1t. Boer Genocide is on the increase though

  • Foreigner - 2011-06-13 11:03

    "Crime levels declining - report". You gonna have to come up with a better joke than that!

  • Nicholas - 2011-06-13 11:05

    Until an undisputed reliable Crime statistic in this country is close to a world average and the conviction rate is comparable to a law abiding society on this planet. No one can make claims of a safer South Africa. To do so is crime in it self.

  • Gavin - 2011-06-13 11:09

    WHAT A CROCK OF SH*T - this article appears right next to the brutal murder of a couple on a smallholding. I am so tired of being lied to by government officials. All we ask is that you do your fracking jobs and stop speaking with forked tongues and STOP STEALING !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Cire - 2011-06-13 11:17

    I don't believe a word of it! A lot of people don't bother reporting crimes becuase they do not trust the police or believe they will do anything about it. Some people even believe that the police themselves are involved with criminals.

  • Concernedkev - 2011-06-13 11:18

    You got to be kidding!! What kind of jackass survey delivered these results !

  • BrokenLink - 2011-06-13 11:23

    Its not, we just cant be bothered to report it anymore. Other than getting a police statement for insurance the police serve no useful purpose.

  • Razz-ma-Tazz - 2011-06-13 11:25

    BULL SHITT!!!!!

  • Flinger - 2011-06-13 11:43

    Who did the math on this? I presume a 2 yr old Monkey with an abacus...

  • LordVaider - 2011-06-13 11:50

    You people will never be satisfied. Crime is a social issue related to the differences in social standing between members of that community or citizens of that country. Look at countries like Switzerland and Sweden where the people have plenty of legitimate opportunities to lead socially acceptable lifestyles, the result is they don't all take to crime like in other countries. The difference in social standing of South African's is a direct result of apartheid and therefore until people have enough choices to exercise in order to survive without having to resort to crime this is the penalty we will pay.

  • LordVaider - 2011-06-13 11:51

    You people will never be satisfied. Crime is a social issue related to the differences in social standing between members of that community or citizens of that country. Look at countries like Switzerland and Sweden where the people have plenty of legitimate opportunities to lead socially acceptable lifestyles, the result is they don't all take to crime like in other countries. The difference in social standing of South African's is a direct result of apartheid and therefore until people have enough choices to exercise in order to survive without having to resort to crime this is the penalty we will pay.

  • Barry M - 2011-06-13 11:56

    In a word "CRAP!"

  • umlaut - 2011-06-13 11:58

    We would really like to believe good news but with the govt.'s desparate attempts to control information we have this suspicion that they will go to ANY length to control crime information, and what a better place to do it than in a police station--they are paying the police and probably 85% of them voted anc.!!!

  • solly - 2011-06-13 12:01

    Ag ja! don't forget it's just another report.... far from reality. For sure.

  • andrew chap - 2011-06-13 12:05

    Thye put a price on robberies. What about all the lives lost due to crime? You cant put a value on that crime need to be stopped completly

  • tut - 2011-06-13 12:12

    The mayor hides the crime rate council woman hesitates Public gets irate but forget the vote date Weatherman complaining, predicted sun, it's raining Everyone's protesting, boyfriend keeps suggesting you're not like all of the rest Garbage ain't collected, women ain't protected Politicians using, people they're abusing The mafia's getting bigger, like pollution in the river And you tell me that this is where it's at Woke up this morning with an ache in my head I splashed on my clothes as I spilled out of bed I opened the window to listen to the news But all I heard was the Establishment's Blues. Gun sales are soaring, housewives find life boring Divorce the only answer smoking causes cancer This system's gonna fall soon, to an angry young tune And that's a concrete cold fact The pope digs population, freedom from taxation Teeny Bops are uptight, drinking at a stoplight Miniskirt is flirting I can't stop so I'm hurting Spinster sells her hopeless chest Adultery plays the kitchen, bigot cops non-fiction The little man gets shafted, sons and monies drafted Living by a time piece, new war in the Far East Can you pass the Rorschach test? It's a hassle it's an educated guess. Well, frankly I couldn't care less. Rodriguez