Cwele: Govt won't tolerate illegal gatherings

2012-09-14 14:13

Johannesburg - No more illegal gatherings or incitement to violence would be tolerated, Intelligence Minister Siyabonga Cwele said on Friday.

"No more incitement to violence would be tolerated," Cwele told reporters in Pretoria.

The ministers of police, justice, finance and intelligence were briefing the media on ongoing unprotected mining strikes across the country over the past few weeks.

Forty-five people have died in incidents related to an illegal strike at Lonmin mine in Rustenburg. Thirty-four of them were shot dead by police a month ago.

Asked how authorities would control crowds without shooting, Police Minister Nathi Mthethwa only said: "We will do everything to ensure that peace will prevail."

Asked if expelled ANC Youth League president Julius Malema was being accused of incitement to violence, the ministers said: "This statement of government is not directed to any specific individuals".

  • Michael - 2012-09-14 14:18

    First on your list should be Malema! Charge him with High-Treason and also incitement to violence! Then also Zuma for singing that hate song "kill the boer". How many innocent people/white farmers have not died because of these 2? How can any president for that matter sing a song inciting people to kill a certain race group???

      Michael - 2012-09-14 14:18

      Oh how I wish the international community would step in and help us! EU, UN, NATO... Do you see what is going on this country?

      Michael - 2012-09-14 14:20

      There Malema said on CNN the other day he sang "Kiss the boer". Do you think we are stupid Malema? You are silently causing the death of us!

      peter.ndamase - 2012-09-14 14:26

      Not everything is about you or a specific race, the government needs a workable solution in order to unite the people of south africa and instill that lost confidence from investors.

      typersa.baddy - 2012-09-14 14:42

      So Govmt, please stop telling us you are going to do something about it... GO DO IT!!!! - 2012-09-14 15:12

      We all know they mean Julius Malema (the instigator) but they wont dare mention it publicly. I think the government is now pretty sick of this situation and I know they would like to just silence these savage mobs, but its not as simple, its a VERY DELICATE situation. - 2012-09-14 15:14

      Now is the time for LAW-ABIDING citizens to get behind government and SUPPORT THEM in dealing with these anarchists!! - IT EFFECTS US ALL.

      gerhard.kress.3 - 2012-09-14 15:49

      To this day they have not disarmed the strikers. Maybe they are scared.

      rowan.clark.10 - 2012-09-14 18:39

      Hey, it's spring in Africa!!

      tw2066 - 2012-09-14 20:15

      mothoko - you are right, rather let the majority kill each other and squable. Either way .....

      Vince.York - 2012-09-14 23:11

      Sounds like Cwele hasn't heard the 37 million young voices all in tune over the swooossshhhhHH of the pangas!

  • peter.ndamase - 2012-09-14 14:23

    There is no leadership Cwele, how about not tolerating bad leadership by Zuma. It took 45 killings to hear his response, a commission of enquiry!!! I just cannot wait for Mangaung to remove Zuma and all corrupt cadres.

      Willie - 2012-09-14 14:57

      SA won't tolerate drug trafficking by spouses of ministers

  • ndyeboreginaldmazawule - 2012-09-14 14:23

    Minister seem to be afraid of Malema.

      napolita.kio - 2012-09-14 14:33

      What makes you say that?

      deon.louw.7505 - 2012-09-14 15:20

      It seems more than they are warning him to behave or face the wrath of the ANC Gov.

  • keith.f.murphy - 2012-09-14 14:30

    Cwele think we are all idiots like him and Zuma.All they can do is threaten people and not try to liaise with people to solve the problems becos they are oon the gravy train payroll.

  • napolita.kio - 2012-09-14 14:32

    Just what is " illegal gatherings "?

  • ally.oh.7 - 2012-09-14 14:32

    Cwele speaks! headline news. What the country needs is leadership -- not a bunch of cadres who don't have a clue and who are too scared to even go to the scene of the crime because it is "unsafe". How much longer must the country put up with these buffoons? Zuma, Cwele (remember, his wife was involved big time in drug dealing while they were married), Malema, Mthethwa et al

  • tony.naidoo - 2012-09-14 14:40

    The biggest illegal gathering is that of the clowns and their ringmaster in parliament house. Call in the riot squad. Armour piercing ammo required to ventilate the thick skulls!

  • shirley.steenkamp - 2012-09-14 14:47

    Is this comedy hour? The ruling party keep saying they wont tolerate provocation of iolence,yet Malema is allowed to freely roam and spew his racist bile everywhere! Miners are continueously allowed to gather with weapons,yet when they are arressted,they are let go again! This is the toothless crocodile warning its "prey". This could have been stopped ages ago,however the ruling party chose to let so much damage to the economy and overseas invetment occur. Is this what the president meant by "majority" vote?

  • Alasdair - 2012-09-14 14:51

    A bit late now big guy, Marikana started over a month ago even Juliaas has had time to get in on the act - no reaction from government!?? Really doesn't seem that they care, just worried about saving their own skins in December.

  • Loeto Mocwane - 2012-09-14 14:53

    Cwele is a Lazarus Zim lookalike.

  • aroka.murombe - 2012-09-14 15:03

    Were is ur president? Ou...k shut up

  • ditantane.kganakga - 2012-09-14 15:04

    i wonder if gathering with my 15000 friends and colleagues is illegal

      napolita.kio - 2012-09-14 15:56

      Hahaaaa.... Anyways, in the absence of a law stating what constitute a legal gathering then no gathering can be classified as either legal or illegal.

  • luke.dekoker - 2012-09-14 15:04

    There must have been a nice free-high-value-lunch where the ministers of police, justice, finance and intelligence gathered to discuss fat-boy?

  • osmaseko - 2012-09-14 15:07

    Mthethwa doesnt have a strategy lol eish our Government....Cwele couldn't deal with his wife how is he going to deal with thousands of miners?

  • andre.vandeventer.16 - 2012-09-14 15:10

    First, ban the carrying of any knife, knob-kierie, spear and panga in any strike or protest in future and then you will automatically have less violent thugs participating!

  • osmaseko - 2012-09-14 15:11

    Mthethwa doesn't have a strategy to deal with this. Cwele couldn't deal with his spouse whow is he going to deal with thousands of miners?

  • celeste.delange1 - 2012-09-14 15:14

    Does this mean Julius must stay at home now? What on earth will he do with all the extra time on his hands? Woodwork??

  • vuyani.zondi - 2012-09-14 15:15

    What's the deference between zuma`s leadership style and aparteid tectics to what zuma`s goverment is done, not that I recommend what striking miners are doing but its something that has been happening along these years caring dangerous wepons in peaceful matches espacially ifp.

  • vuyani.zondi - 2012-09-14 15:15

    What's the deference between zuma`s leadership style and aparteid tectics to what zuma`s goverment is done, not that I recommend what striking miners are doing but its something that has been happening along these years caring dangerous wepons in peaceful matches espacially ifp.

  • tshepoya.bamagoro - 2012-09-14 15:16

    This article is boring and the Police minister cant even answer specifically. And i am sick to the stomach of the Zuma goverment that always tell us "We are going to do everything we can". Hey wats everything

      tshepo.maganedisa - 2012-09-14 15:33


  • henk.vanrensburg.31 - 2012-09-14 15:16

    Sorry Anc, but this is the culture that you created in this country. Now it is not accepted anymore? Just love it!

  • Mandla - 2012-09-14 15:16

    dectatorship system malema was right. apartheid policies the return part 2 change charactors

  • djkutrage - 2012-09-14 15:19

    Yes u wont tolerate it cause u earning a lot of money doing nothing u mthr fckrs u so stupid

  • ignatiousmarekollemahlokwane - 2012-09-14 15:26

    Wow this is quite madness when it comes to service delivery they never stop mentioning apartheid's madness...but when the citizens want to exercise their rights they use same old apartheid to intimate and oPpress them. Does this make sense?

      christiaan.vanvuuren.9 - 2012-09-14 15:45

      Yes because oppresion is not an apartheid function. Its a government function. And always will be

      Thanduxolo Galada - 2012-09-14 15:56

      My sentiments exactly any intelligent person sees this for what it is: NO Leadership but bullying by pulling rank. Fak you and the popo!

  • tshepo.maganedisa - 2012-09-14 15:30

    I think people who should be charged with the unrest or treason are those that keeps on giving the impression that this is the race violence,this has nothing to do with blacks chasing whites away or other way around, its simple workers standing up against exploitation.I am sure if Government had a case against Julius they wouldnt waste a minute and clearly because there is no case they will keep on threating and to think that not Julius is into this even some of the top cadres are involved, i just dont understand whats the fuss. *saga continues*

      Bra Tebzaah Sibilanga - 2012-09-14 16:02

      Good point.Some people love to shine on other people's shine.

      martin.melzer.988 - 2012-09-15 15:18

      You are quite right T. This is not s race issue, or at least shouldn't be. It is an issue of Law and Order. Miners have the legal right to organize themselves for the strongest (legal) industrial action they are capable of. BUT, they do not have the right to engage in public violence to further their interests. If they continue with this intolerable behavior, more of them will be injured or killed. The most important thing for South Africa's future is that no-one be allowed to use violence to promote an economic or political agenda. That would threaten EVERYONE'S best interests and I think the top end of the ANC are fully aware of that.

  • deon.louw.7505 - 2012-09-14 15:38

    Good news for today but tomorrow some political parties sing struggle songs with the same message (inciting violence), will they also be reprimanded?

  • Bra Tebzaah Sibilanga - 2012-09-14 15:41

    Cwele shut up.You must be high on the drugs your tsotsi wife sells with that Nigerian.

  • tshifhiwap1 - 2012-09-14 15:58

    M nt suprised,apartheit stll exist,gv d' workers wt dey deserv,(Y wuld u do dt cuz u got shares in d'mines,N'u r busy oppresin i fellow african, is dis wt our 4 fathers fought 4?i doubt, oll of u ministets r traiters.

  • Lucky Prince Masoeu - 2012-09-14 15:59

    The government can't ban pangas or knives at the strike because the strike is illegal already. There's nothing they can do. You cannot stop people from striking illegally and carrying, unless you shoot them dead all.

  • rivalani.mabasa - 2012-09-14 16:27

    This is technically the apartheid regime.

  • rivalani.mabasa - 2012-09-14 16:29

    The apartheid days have technically come back.

  • mzukisijola.jose1 - 2012-09-14 17:17

    You are going to tolerate the drug dealers in your house,are going back to apartheid times?

  • lionel.defrontignac - 2012-09-14 17:55

    Reminiscent of PW Botha's fascism... next we'll have a State of Emergency.

  • tw2066 - 2012-09-14 20:14

    Now the ANC is starting to understand the NP - infact - the ANC is a carbon copy of the NP.

  • pieter.nel.545 - 2012-09-16 09:59

    So that means govt will have to create new laws in order to be able to charge workers with the breaking of said laws how long will this take and in the short term. Are we going to see martial law or wat?

  • michael.j.anderson.144 - 2012-09-16 18:20

  • solly.mathulwe - 2012-09-17 07:35

    question is sandf in residatial area what are they looking for they suppose to be in mines and are we saying tired of thinking and tire of negotiating come on south africans salary demand not a war

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