DA wants law to stop another 'Nkandlagate'

2012-10-29 15:48

Cape Town - Several private members' bills and debate requests will be submitted to Parliament on the reported R250m upgrade of President Jacob Zuma's Nkandla homestead, the DA said on Monday.

The Democratic Alliance would submit, among others, proposed amendments to the National Key Points Act, which the party said was being misused to "hide details of the upgrade".

The DA's parliamentary leader Lindiwe Mazibuko said the act needed to be amended to narrow the definition of a national key point.

"This would ensure that the minister (of public works) would not be able, as is currently the case under section two (of the act), to declare (on the basis of) expediency only... it has to be proven to be necessary for national security."

DA MP Athol Trollip intended resubmitting a private members' bill proposing changes to the Executive Ethics Act, which would give the public greater access to the president's declaration of interests.

The bill was rejected before it could be tabled earlier this year.

The DA would be able to now table it directly to Parliament, after this month's Constitutional Court judgment setting aside parliamentary rules which required MPs to get permission from the National Assembly Speaker before submitting legislation.

Mazibuko said the decision by Deputy Speaker Nomaindia Mfeketo to disallow debate on Nkandla would be challenged at the next meeting of Parliament's oversight authority.

The DA said it was not unaware of the fact that it would have to get some ruling party support to push the debate on Nkandla through.

"I think there are enough opportunities to make our case, to ensure ANC members go into this with an open mind."

She said she had no doubt the African National Congress's elective conference, set to take place in Mangaung in December, could weigh heavily on MP's minds.

"I think there are some who will see it in their political interests to rally around the president, and I think there are others who might view it in their political interests to hold him accountable."

  • Andrea - 2012-10-29 15:59

    "The bill was rejected before it could be tabled earlier this year." Of course it was, and we can't stop wondering what else we don't know about yet ...

  • Eterni80 - 2012-10-29 16:00

    3 can keep a secret - if 2 are dead. JZ will get what he's owed, or rather pay what he owes. And to think, if he was a decent president, this wouldn't be so bad - or would it ?

  • debduplessis - 2012-10-29 16:00

    Yip old Gwen M said RSA was like "Irish Coffee".... I agree except he got it so wrong to link it to race! I formally correct him to link it to the CORRUPT GOVERNMENT & its OFFICIALS in so-called power! ... the sprinkling on top are all those stealing Tax payers money for own personal wealth including KGZ now demanding R20m like Zuma, whilst the Cream represents very few law abiding citizens in this country. The coffee are the huge criminal element allowed to roam free in this country.... its time we had someone & a party in power who actually knows what they doing and can correct this immoral, sick, degraded & raped country of ours!!!!

  • parys.fotograaf - 2012-10-29 16:02

    Simply out: if the taxpayer pays for it, we should own it and get dividends from it. Thus,Zoomer, we want to charge you rent.

  • fanie.viljoen.73 - 2012-10-29 16:02

    The next ANC president will never ever go against such a bill. He will believe its his right to milk the system also.

  • - 2012-10-29 16:05

    I sometimes wonder if DA is the only opposition party. There's never any mention of the other parties taking initiative. The only reason why the ANC's monarchy doesn't feel threatened is because there's rarely any challenge from opposition parties except the one they've labelled the 'white party'. They need to watch out though. That 'white' party will be voted for by the black masses (including myself). Some irony that will be.

      JAbu.R15 - 2012-10-29 16:13

      I think Zuma is about to be proven wrong come 2014. He once said the anc will be in power till Jesus come. Dit sal die dag wees!

      kala.bafazi - 2012-10-29 16:16

      The IFP and the NFP are to busy shooting each other to put together any formal challenge.

      deon.louw.7505 - 2012-10-29 16:17

      Cope recently tried to impeach the Pres. it was shot down as he "hated Mr Zuma". They seemed to grow quickly in numbers but infighting cost them many votes. We can do with stronger opposition parties in SA.

      debduplessis - 2012-10-29 18:10

      Jabu it wasn't Zuma who said "the ANC would rule til the 2nd coming"... it was Nelson Mandela - Zuma isn't that bright!

  • JAbu.R15 - 2012-10-29 16:12

    How I wish they can stop the whole upgrade! the gov will fail to produce anything as much as they failed to produce the spytapes, what about the contract for the sanral? so if possible can we get a court order against the whole zumaville please . away with corruption away!

  • andrez.kolesky - 2012-10-29 16:14

    "Closing the stable door after the horse has bolted" ??

      lorain.maseko - 2012-10-30 08:37

      Something to that effect, what should be happening is that uma should have the decency to scrap the entire thing.

  • bongani.nsele.58 - 2012-10-29 16:17

    this DA must propose a law that would seek to amend the 1913 Land Act which in its self is a very diabolic piece of legislation that took away land from African people and reduced them to unthinkable poverty we experience today

      jason.jacobs.39589149 - 2012-10-29 16:30

      That's a good idea...give the land back to its original inhabitants. THE KHOISAN.

      Amandlawhereto - 2012-10-29 16:50

      Bongani - perhaps you could elaborate how the 1913 land act created today's poverty, I will give you a hint that land ownership does NOT equate to wealth, displacing people from ancestral land 100 years has no impact on todays economy. Perhaps in you wisdom you could also enlighten us on how throwing cash at Nkandla in 2012 improves the lives of the impoverished?

      jackie.white.94064 - 2012-10-29 16:57

      @bongani, you so quick to chirp on history. How far back in history can you trace your ancestors to lay claim to the land you so quickly believe you have a right to?? I know I can trace mine as far back as 1745!!!

      bongani.nsele.58 - 2012-10-29 17:03

      right now in Wall Street the rising stock to be traded is land baba, stocks are rising in land, fertiliser stocks, seed stocks and even in tractor stocks, think of it amandlawethu

      Zahir - 2012-10-29 18:34

      Your anc govy collected R 1 trillion in taxes last year via sars still there is poverty ?

  • mbuti.manopole.3 - 2012-10-29 16:17

    R238m is enougth to kick start up to 5 corporations that can employ and lift thousands of south african out of poverty , but the president wants to use that for the family... Still he wants to be re elected on top of that !! Isn't that being selfish?

      jay.kganyago.5 - 2012-10-29 16:32

      The only morally correct way out of this situation is: 1. Pres must give up private compound 2. It should be turned into a hotel or other revenue generating asset 3. Shares in the hotel must be issued to taxpayers and to the poor

      mbuti.manopole.3 - 2012-10-29 16:52

      What will south africans learn and benefit from that compound anyway? Imagine what a horrble fate awaits us if he continue 4 another 5 years !!

      Erna - 2012-10-29 16:57

      There's one thing I know for sure - zuma has no shame. When it comes to spending our money, sleeping with young girls, have illegitimate children, have corrupt relationships, he has no shame!

      Bontle Mpho Motoma - 2012-10-29 22:39

      yoh Mbuti yeah thats very scary,this madala is killing us wth a std2 nogal haibo

  • bfvdberg - 2012-10-29 16:27

    This is a joke, really, R250m for upgrades? Damn, how about keeping the promise the ANC made since 1994, it cost to build a hop house just about R12 000, with R250m you can build 20 833 hop houses, taking squatters away, providing accomodation with low rental wage and creating a job oppertunity that could help to minimise poverty. Even upgrade schools to build the youth to make our future stronger, but no rather upgrade the house to spend another R18 000 000 per year to throw parties, idiots, go DA learn them a lesson.

  • sthembiso.jali.50 - 2012-10-29 16:32

    what happened 2 Holomisa ? Im supprised he is very queit about this.

      Amandlawhereto - 2012-10-29 16:51

      He is speechless at just how much the ANC can steal from this country!

  • ron.bilyard - 2012-10-29 16:42

    All well and good but the estate should be sold,the money put back in the states coffers and any shortfall should be paid by shower head with any interest owed. That's our money,not his.

  • thefat.canarie - 2012-10-29 16:49

    Thanks to Mario Oriano-Ambrosini from Inkhatha ... MPs CAN NOW TAKE THESE MATTERS TO THE LEGISLATURE IN THEIR OWN CAPACITIES AND SHOW SISULU A MIDDLE FINGER! Great DA! Go get them crooks!

  • louissouthafrica - 2012-10-29 16:50

    Please people, please do remember this thievery and blatant disregard of the poor masses. Vote DA!!! I watched an interview with Helen Zille on the news channel, over the weekend. She has got my vote, for sure. The only politician that can answer with a clear conscience and is fighting the cANCer all the way.

      sthembiso.jali.50 - 2012-10-29 17:02

      Thats not too difficult to do when u an opposition, Magwaza msibi can do that too.

      louissouthafrica - 2012-10-29 17:07

      But she does not do it...

  • nqobile.majola - 2012-10-29 16:54

    i dnt like DA n will neva vote for DA bt am supportn them in stopn thus nkandlagate

      arthur.salvado - 2012-10-29 16:58

      Yep, one boerewors roll = one ANC vote. DA doesn't dish out boeries so can never get the required votes at least until such time that our nation is properly educated. Ouch, where are the text books? Go figure

      graeme.aitken.545 - 2012-10-29 17:07

      if the DA gave you a bigger bag of mielie pap than the ANC gave you before the last erections, would you change your mind and vote DA ?...PLEEEAASE SISSI

      charl.malan.12 - 2012-10-29 17:15

      @ nqobile.majola Who are you voting for? Just out of interest!

      jlushaba - 2012-10-29 18:30

      If only people could stop voting based on race, this country will b number 2 or 3 in the world

  • arthur.salvado - 2012-10-29 16:56

    Not only disregard of the poor but blatant outright theft of stupid tax payers. Nobody is doing anything about it. We hear all pretty words from the minister of finance but honestly, he can just invent further taxes and theft will continue. Go DA

  • graeme.aitken.545 - 2012-10-29 17:04

    America is facing another Hurricane...ever wondered why Africa never gets Hurricanes that reach land ? Because they are all named after African leaders and are too damn lazy to go the full distance..we now call them "hurri-up-and-wait-canes"

  • 21December2012 - 2012-10-29 17:13

    bongani your quote we are all african people is true, believe it or not I was born in this country as you were and went to school with your bretheren, never went to the military and whenever i could gave hand outs to all. Now with that in mind why must you get better treatment because you black and i'm white, not to forget i am also unemployed, but I don't toitoi and blame the first white person i see. Instead I live each day with my family and only wish your nation would get a clue.

  • Michael - 2012-10-29 17:19

    What if ANC two third majority in parliament vote againts? What will DA do? But i support the idea.

  • Marco van Rensburg - 2012-10-29 17:20

    Jay you make a very valid point! One can see you got brains! Maybe you should run!

  • ernest.lwandle - 2012-10-29 17:23

    OK wait a minute guys does those grassy houses on the pic realy cost such a huge amount of money i think somewher somehow something is been OVEREXAGERATED

  • John.Yossarian22 - 2012-10-29 17:25

    How about Nkandla being nationalized, and used as a rehab centre for rapists and corrupt politicians? Would save some relocation costs.

  • Tello Moleko - 2012-10-29 17:59

    Zille the area shes staying at was build by tax payers money of during those days,why not Inkandla to be the same with tax payers

  • mfana.sobukwe - 2012-10-29 18:18

    dat madam jus want to maek trubbel for everyone. she can forget about it. da country is ours now and we wil rule til jesus come. if u dont like it leaf. nxm

      Roger Zipp - 2012-10-29 18:48

      So democracy is not as great as we thought but to find a better plan is really quite a challenge. The track record of this so called highly evolved human being classified in scripture as faithless, heartless and ruthless leaves much to be desired.

  • Zahir - 2012-10-29 18:26

    DA is only hope to save SA from anc taking all country money

  • alananthonygreen - 2012-10-29 18:56

    Going to be brilliant to share this news with the folks in townships still waiting for their houses. I'll scream it from the pulpit 'look at zooma building a palace while he laughs at you living in your shack' what a pig

  • phila.ximba - 2012-10-29 20:18

    Its time to give others a chance, we all know the fact that, only highly qualified people are able to conduct a genuine management and leadership with honesty, not just anyone. There are lots of poor families living in shacks even near by Inkandla, who could have done a lot with this money. And to those who are still keeping the past, its no more about black and white these days but its about who is keeping the promises.

  • Bontle Mpho Motoma - 2012-10-29 22:42

    mfana.sobukwe haibo u could get a busary to go to school from zuma jerrr take him along,look @ how you write damn Wake up and smell the coffee SA is going down with this old president of yours

  • Maxodin - 2012-10-30 02:15

    Perhaps some rich person should take out a few ads and put up billboards in poorer areas displaying the presidential resort and stating how much was spent on it. Perhaps some voters will see the wood for the trees.

  • Maxodin - 2012-10-30 03:22

    Please read this article mr Paul Harris

  • Melecia Boonzaaier - 2012-10-30 07:47

    Tuinhuis remains gov property, so does the White house in the US. In my opinion so should Zumas Nkandla estate for future presidents, after all it was build with state/tax money!!!

  • floyd.hlungwani - 2012-10-30 07:57

    I think we need to look at the way the government runs the affairs of this country, Nkandlagate is just a tip of an iceberg. A lot of things have been said but a little has been done. And there is a lot of corruption going on and all those people are continuing to do business freely. I think we need to get our priorities right as a nation.

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