Dalai Lama a divisive figure - Nzimande

2011-10-07 22:12

Johannesburg - SA Communist Party leader Blade Nzimande has defended the government in the Dalai Lama visa debacle, saying the Tibetan spiritual leader is a "divisive figure".

The SABC reported Nzimande as saying on Friday that the Dalai Lama was using his position to make Tibet break away from China.

"I don't think our country should be used as a platform for secession," said Nzimande at an SACP congress in East London.

He said he was not speaking as government, but as a communist, from the SACP's standpoint.

  • cyberrman - 2011-10-07 22:30

    Girly voice is an a*&hole and is in no position to even consider commenting on the Dalai Lama.

      Shadoz - 2011-10-09 15:19

      Wait till us whites start taking a peice of South Africa for ourselves when we finnaly get sick of the corruption, murders, EE and having to continue carrying almost the whole of SA. The DL wants what is best for his people and communisim is just a corrupt system that has a few people on the top that suck the nation dry. And this is what the ANC want for SA. God help us all.

      Seven9 - 2011-10-10 16:27

      Ha Ha Ha, joke of the day.... and this coming from the communist party..... The liberation struggle of the great Mandela and his team have turned into a sad bunch of loser that think they can decide how people think and what people do. If the current situation continues and we allow them to do so - SA will sink into the abyss! My best is that the government still seem to think that they carry weight in the world - WAKE UP ANC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      Snoopy88 - 2011-10-13 13:13

      How rude of this man and this money-grabbing government! Firstly, the big DL was here visiting with our own spiritual (and moral) leader. He was not here to be 'divisive'. Blade clearly never paid attention in history class or he would know that the honourable struggle of the Tibetan people is against a brutal culture-destroying China. Go look up 'colonising' and then check your definition of 'secession'... and they put this man in charge of education?

  • RSA 2010 - 2011-10-07 22:32

    That is rich coming from someone whose has been known for the last 30 years as "Blade".

  • haynes.sp - 2011-10-07 22:34

    Blade, you really are a fool. If you really love communism so much why don't you catch a plane to China or North Korea ... tonight please. Enjoy the trip.

      Mandla - 2011-10-08 00:41

      Fools are people who support Israel occupation of Palestine.

      Stephan Janse van Vuuren - 2011-10-08 00:54

      Sorry to say Mandla, you are completely off topic. This is not the international section.

      Ancient - 2011-10-08 13:25

      Let us see how far apart the ANC then and now are. Question, would Mandela have caved in to China's pressure? I leave the answer out there.

      hugo mabasa - 2011-10-09 23:03

      why should he go to China?is he not South African? by your logic since I disagree with you does that mean you should go to um Canada?Do people even think before they type

      Seven9 - 2011-10-10 16:29

      @Mandla - china are on the side of Israel, YOU BETTER CHANGE YOUR POSITION HAHAHAHAHA

  • TamaraSays - 2011-10-07 22:36

    Blade, you're a w@nker.

  • Copywriter - 2011-10-07 22:42

    Nzimande - only one word to describe this man - STUPID

      hugo mabasa - 2011-10-09 23:07

      any word to describe yourself?

      Gregoir - 2011-10-13 12:55

      Smarter than Hugo?

  • Rip van Winkel - 2011-10-07 22:48

    watch...the other hand...SA is in the pocket of the Chinese and as a communist they are very good at it...David Copperfield is an amateur ...

  • Craig Louw - 2011-10-07 22:50

    So this is the true reason they would not allow him in. What a lovely country.

      DW - 2011-10-08 17:18

      Makes no sense whatsoever. He lives in India and that doesnt stop India and China trade (refer BRICS). Why should it make any difference to SA/China trade?

  • Overlord - 2011-10-07 22:53

    Some maaifoedies feel insulted being compared to the ANC.

  • leonard - 2011-10-07 22:53

    This is rich coming from an unelected minister sitting in parliament.Your communistic doctrine(as has been proven all over the world)does not work.Your results as minister leave more than a bitter taste in the mouth with a concomitant drop in standards.Ergo,what gives you the right to pronounce on a highly respected world figure?

      christine - 2011-10-08 07:46

      you are so correct leonard---when blade was fighting apartheid they were fighting for democracy and human rights--I thought this was what the Dali Lama was doing for Tibet--now that the anc has embarrassed themselves in the eyes of the world [as they do constantly]now the lama is 'divisive'--what double standards--how disgraceful of him --almost as disgraceful as his performance on education--as is commonly said ,blade is not too sharp

      DW - 2011-10-08 17:27

      Blade, you had no problem using foreign countries as a platform to overthrow the apartheid government, did you. It only suits your cause, but when a non-democratic tyrranical government perpetrates human rights abuses on the Nepalese, you are simply not interested in getting involved. Imagine if the rest of the world had that attitude when you went begging for help against apartheid.

  • keng - 2011-10-07 23:00

    SA Communist Party leader Blade Nzimande has defended the government in the Dalai Lama visa debacle, saying the Tibetan spiritual leader is a "divisive figure". The Neanderthals were supposed to have died out so many years ago. However "Blade" I see there are still some lurking around. You really are a pathetic little creature.

  • Myth - 2011-10-07 23:03

    No, wait, he is right, the Lama is divisive; he is separating the anc from the chinese loot...

      Buffalo - 2011-10-08 06:45

      ` . . . anc from the chinese loot . . .' the only ones that have come to `loot' are the Chinese. Be afraid, be very afraid. The maaifoedie party are not in the same league. The Chinese have been dealing in politics and the corruption that partners politics, for thousands of years, not hundreds. These idiots in the anc think that they are on the same intellectual plane as the people who invented plumbing, gunpowder and the pneumatic drill, all before the anc ignorants lost their tails and fur.

  • jvl - 2011-10-07 23:07

    Attack is the best defense!So nevermind the Dalai Lama,being a cultural based leadership for thousands of years,we only revere culture when suited to our financial gains,we the Rainbow nation look down on tradition that does not feed our GDP.At least now we get to see the real picture

  • Totman - 2011-10-07 23:10

    Blade, may be he is, but so are you. Still belief in something that failed everywhere and convince people into that failure hole. May be you must try to do the semi social party part of it like France and drop the communist part build on a structure of a failed USSR. Maybe you will have more supporters. You (personally) are not follow it their way, but more the semi social way. Why than still use the old terms? Careful. 1 finger in his direction and 4 back at you.

  • infijar.ken - 2011-10-07 23:10

    So General Cele is not a devise figure then, hey Blade? oh, sorry, Cele is "our" devise figure, so that's OK then? OK for him to go to the Police in Khayaletia, and explain that everything is the fault of the Somalis who own their own Spazas. Xenaphobia is good, secession is bad! Well done Blade, you make all the Worlds Communists so proud.

  • keng - 2011-10-07 23:14

    Obviously "Blade" had a very unhappy childhood. Poorly educated. Mother was probably never there. Father was everywhere. The attraction of something totally evil and off the wall was his way of paying his parents back. Today he rants off about things of which he has no comprehension. Sad old man.

      hugo mabasa - 2011-10-09 23:13

      he did his phd at Havard if I am not mistaken.As for his mother not being there ,how do you know?you people are irredeemable

  • DeltaBravo - 2011-10-07 23:22

    Since you don't even what you stand for anymore, you really aren't entitled to an opinion. Chop.

  • Sandy - 2011-10-07 23:22

    A22#0les divisive , Huh !! rot in hell ANC

  • rumsour - 2011-10-07 23:24

    How strange that the colonization of Tibet, following the 1949 invasion by the Peoples Republic of China, should meet with such overwhelming approval by the "liberation struggle" alliance. An estimated 1.2 million Tibetans have perished as a result of more than 40 years of occupation and the cultural genocide in Tibet continues unabated.

      Stephan Janse van Vuuren - 2011-10-08 01:27

      Again Mandla, you are off topic. This is not the international section.

      ChumScrubber - 2011-10-08 05:55

      So Mandla, you justify one wrong because of another? Weird logic. Blade supports the singing of a song aimed at genocide against a minority in this country, he has no right to accuse anyone of being devisive when he is a prime example of divisiveness! He says he does not speak for the ANC, but it is clear the ANC is guilty in this case, they look so ridiculous with their constant contradictions and denials. Its no wonder they are so useless when it comes to governing our country. How anyone has any respect for them anymore amazes me.

      Kenko - 2011-10-08 08:33

      Mandla, since you are so bent on dragging the Israel issue into this, please explain how Israel is occupying Palestine.Last time I looked, they were building settlements on unoccupied land, but true to form the Palestines who doesn't have the ability to prgress are crying to the high heavens about "occupying their land". Instead of whiling away their days praying in mosques, they should try to develop their own arid hills. You should see both sides of the coin.

      hugo mabasa - 2011-10-09 23:19

      did you perhaps mean 1959? or and about the 1.2 mil that has perished,would you be so kind as to provide references?how about those who were freed from serfdom and the women who now attend university? go tell your stories to your buddies

  • Felix - 2011-10-07 23:29

    Communist Blade: Speaking for fellow communist China in support of capitalistic trade......

  • sabc10 - 2011-10-07 23:29

    I think the reverand is just as divisive as the dala lama and just like Julius Malema in a way...the three stooges?

  • proudandpink - 2011-10-07 23:30

    Who gives a toss what this communist maaifoedies has to say!! Keep your mouth closed Blade because you make a lot more sense that way.

      OZNOB - 2011-10-07 23:50

      there is no cure for stupidity and intolerance - the anc and blade are prime examples of it

  • thozi - 2011-10-07 23:30

    But Blade, the old man had been invited to an equally old man's birthday party. How does that influence the China-Tibet saga?

  • keng - 2011-10-07 23:36

    South Africa is like some sort of science fiction oddity. Here we have a government comprised of individuals who would be hospitalized in any other country. They are paranoid, of limited intelligence and compulsive and always pull when the door says push.

      hugo mabasa - 2011-10-09 23:25

      and you, dont you think you would be classified as having the brain of a 5 year old? next time it says pull, pull dont push,moron

      Gregoir - 2011-10-13 13:00

      Having the brain of a 5yo is better than what you have hugo:...

  • Linda L. Mndayi - 2011-10-07 23:48

    That's more like it, I guess. Now, someone needs to tell him to close the office of Tibet in Pretoria, that is a real platform for seccesion. What a moron.

  • Richard - 2011-10-08 00:08

    Well for once a political figure giving an honest and frank answer. Makes a change. Don't agree with you but good for you.

  • JohnPicarra - 2011-10-08 00:23

    Before 1957 A N C was the African National Congress. After 1957 it is Abortion Murder Genocide.

  • JohnPicarra - 2011-10-08 00:25

    “ The Gang of Four Chinese Communist Party members came to power during the Cultural Revolution (1966–76), and were charged with a series of treasonous crimes. The gang consisted of Jiang Qing, Mao Zedong's last wife as the leading figure of the group, and her close associates Zhang Chunqiao, Yao Wenyuan, and Wang Hongwen. In 1980, the trials of the Gang of Four began. Among the prosecution’s charge of actual crimes were the usurpation of state power and party leadership; the persecution of some 750,000 people, 34,375 of whom died during the period 1966-76. It was at this trial that Jiang Qing made the famous quote: "I was Chairman Mao's dog. I bit whomever he asked me to bite." Jiang Qing was sentenced to death in 1981. “ Source Wikipidia. I was inspired to write a song commemorating the death of such evil people: Shoot the dogs, Shoot the dogs, Shoot the dogs of Mao Tse Tsung! Auss! Auss, Auss! Auss! Auss Auss! Shoot the dogs, Shoot the dogs, Shoot the dogs of Jiang Qing! Auss! Auss, Auss! Auss! Auss Auss! Shoot the dogs, Shoot the dogs, Shoot the dogs Gang of Four! Auss! Auss, Auss! Auss! Auss Auss!

      sabc10 - 2011-10-08 17:25

      Eish,this Tibet-like song sounds violent. Please let us know if the holiness Dalia Lama has approved of this.

  • Proudly SA - 2011-10-08 00:38

    What a bafoon - Nzimande is really pathetic and scary this man is supposed to be top educationist in SA !!

  • JohnPicarra - 2011-10-08 00:38

    Down with the imperialist chinese communist party, down! Viva the People of China, viva! Down with the chinese imperialist mercenary invasion, down! Viva the People of Xinjiang, viva! Out with the chinese imperialist mercenary army and police, out! Viva the People of Tibet, viva! Out han settler, out! Viva the People of China, viva! Out the han invader troop, out! Viva the People of Xinjiang, viva! Out the han invader policeman, out! Viva the People of Tibet, viva! Boicott China, boicott! Viva the People of China, viva! Sanction China, sanction! Viva the People of Xinjiang, viva! Stop the Baby Genocide, stop! Viva the People of Tibet, viva! We have to support the Chinese People against the Oppression, Exploitation, and Genocide of the Chinese Communist Party. Also we have to support Tibet and Xinjiang against the Occupation, Tirany, Oppression, Exploitation and Genocide of the Chinese Communist Party. Chinese settles, policemen, troops must leave. Tibet for Tibet! Xinjiang for Xinjiang! We have to be militant against the Chinese Communist Party, Ban it, Sanction it, Boycott it. And the government too.

      Buffalo - 2011-10-08 08:24

      John, you need to stay off those `medicinal products' and get some sleep, son.

      sabc10 - 2011-10-08 17:39

      OMG religion is divisive.John you need help. No country,no nation is perfect.Every country has a history.

  • Peter Stewart - 2011-10-08 00:38

    Of course Mr Blade is going to oppose the Dalai as he is a communist and obviously supportive of China, that great bastion of democracy and human rights. Time to rally the troops for a China spring

  • Moeketsi - 2011-10-08 00:53

    Blade is a sadist.If he was not a cabinet minister he would make noise telling everyone how the ANC is obsessed with money and capitalist self interests.That man does not have integrity and dignity.

  • Daniel Jones - 2011-10-08 01:15

    He is way less divisive than JuliARSE. Can the SA gov maybe deport the fat bstrd??

  • ChiefJustice - 2011-10-08 01:24

    blade you are not the brightest chalk on the board to make a statement of that nature. tutu had invited a friend to his home but because people with your lack of understanding and unable to grant an icon this one joyful period with friends. you have proven that communist cold to the touch on the inside....

  • david mlaba - 2011-10-08 01:56

    Blade, you forgot your roots! As the Arch says, the Tibet situation is very similiar to the South African Apartheid situation. Also, His Holiness supported us back in the days of Apartheid. Why do you listen to the Chinese instead of your own blood? It's only for money that you are selling your soul. Many struggle heros died for you to take a position that makes fun of the struggle.

      Alpahbrutus - 2011-10-08 06:33

      Well said.

  • Kevin - 2011-10-08 02:05

    Divisive in terms of the South African Governments corrupt aims and goals. The National Party of old probably said the same thing about Bishop Desmond Tutu. Blade Nzimande your diplomacy is not existent. What you have really said is that you are now dancing to the tune of your Chinese puppet masters. Good bye to the African dream. I suggest Blade reads the words of our National anthem once a day.

  • tokolosxi - 2011-10-08 05:03

    It's quite sad for me to see how the majority of not only South Africans but actually people on this planet still believe everything the mainstream media has to say.....even after so many facts have surfaced to prove how they manipulate the facts and our 'reality' that is formed around these false statements/info.Just one question regarding the Dalai Lama now.....Why do you see him hanging out with all these political figures who have so much blood on their hands....on the one hand he is supposedly being helped by them but on the other hand these people are fighting wars and killing innocent civilians???????????But then again most people still believe in an old man in the sky or some other religion....heeh....Lukily the Dalai Lama's movement is a philosophy and not a religion....probably another thing most people didnt know.

  • CygnusX1 - 2011-10-08 05:23

    STFU Blade, you are a clueless Communist in any event. Rather tell the people out there how Communists over the decades have used "divisiveness" as part of their strategy to "secession"!

  • nick - 2011-10-08 05:44

    blade you have the iq of a donkey how can a man of peace who is not allowed in his own country that's illegally being occupied by the 21st century oppressors africa is now worst off than when they were during colonial days you want a divisive figure look no further than that fat pig hiding in hospital that is a coward with a big mouth that's causing racial tension

      mpiyakhe.dhlamini - 2011-10-13 18:58

      blade:the very first donkey in history to earn a postgrad degree

  • Save SA - 2011-10-08 05:47

    I dont believe that is the case at all, however, if it is, the ANC did exactly the same when they were fightinmg opppresion here in SA. So whats good for the goose is not good for the gander, a bunch of hypocrites, the lot of them!

  • pitbull - 2011-10-08 05:48

    The Dalai Lama has a bigger following than the Pope. I know that upset the Christians, but tough luck you are having. He is also a better man than the whole of the South African Government put together. I don't think there is one person in the whole of the government I would believe. They are all a bunch of corrupt liars out to feather their own beds, and Nzimande is among the leaders of that pack. In 1957, if the Dalai Lama had not escaped from Tibet when the Chinese invaded, he would have been killed just like many of the other lamas in Tibet. Read your history. - CHINA INVADED TIBET. Tibet was a free country governed by a peaceful priesthood. The Chinese, led Mao Tse Tung destroyed that. GIVE TIBET BACK TO THE DALAI LAMA.

      KomissarDzerzhinsky - 2011-10-08 17:39

      Dalai Lama is leader of Tibetan Buddhists a small minority of Buddhists. But your exaggerations make me proud, would you work for our paper the Komsomolska Pravda? You could be a good writer to inform the people about facts and truth.

      Gregoir - 2011-10-13 13:06

      Give us the facts Komissar! Oh, you don't have any. Or you would not have posted "exaggerations" without any examples of your so called truth?

  • michaelp1 - 2011-10-08 06:17

    Pot. Kettle. Black.

  • Kevin - 2011-10-08 06:18

    Tibet is entitled to free of Chinese colonialism. That is the only reason that the Chinese Government don't wantthe Dalai Lama travelling the world. What is disgusting is our Government bowing to the Chinese Government.

  • Zion - 2011-10-08 06:20

    Blade Nzimande, too, with his political bed mates is a divisive figure in South Africa .Communism is long dead but this clown assiduously attempts to trawl it out of its grave. Talking about divisive figures in SA and its bedmates then we can collectively make a list of our own: Robert Mugabe, Quadaffi, Zwati, Julius Malema, Blade Nzimande, Winnie Mandela, Haitian president (ex?),Robert Mc Bride, ad infinitum.

      Alpahbrutus - 2011-10-08 06:46

      Agreed. The SACP, just like the ANC, is full of crooked, racist, divisive thieves who are waiting in the wings in the misguided hope that their defunct political theory will get them into the top jobs so they can take their turn pillaging what's left of South Africa's coffers. Blade is a loser supported by losers. He is probably being financially supported by the Chinese as well, just like almost all prominent ex-struggle South African political (and business) figures who can be bought, and who are no more than expensive whores. "Me luv you long time" is most probably already the new ANC/SACP mantra when begging fom the Chinese.

  • RainbowZombi - 2011-10-08 06:46

    The anc without sacp and cosatu do not have a chance single handed to remain in power. See this weaknes and lets stand together and make a difference this time round. Do you really want these type of people ruling

  • JoooJooo - 2011-10-08 07:07

    Now this is a case of the black calling the kettle a pot. "I don't think our country should be used as a platform for secession," -Bladie Idiot, the Tibetians were kicked out by China - like the SA blacks did to the Khoi San, and all they want is their township back, just like the struuuuugle you clowns go on and on about --- Awww forget it - you are too thick to understand.........

  • maseratifitt - 2011-10-08 07:08

    I agree. We must stand united and explore the darkness of misery and failure together. Light is so divisive and distracting.

  • braamc - 2011-10-08 07:08

    Who is Nzimande again?

  • Harold - 2011-10-08 07:16

    No he's not - he's juat a man who wanted to attend a birthday party. Blade stop trying to defend the indefensible. The govt were way out of line on this one.

  • CaptainK - 2011-10-08 07:23

    Blade, you are a Muppet! What would you have said, if the countries that gave refuge to the exiled SA freedom fighters during apartheid, had called your SA heroes devisive? Tibet is being oppressed by China, you ANC Maaifoedie!

  • Peeved - 2011-10-08 07:27

    Communism is a divisive system, Blade is living in the dark ages like the rest of his cronies, grow a pair Blade stop spouting drivel.