Dalai Lama cancels SA trip over visa delay

2011-10-04 09:51

Dharamshala - The Dalai Lama has cancelled a proposed trip to South Africa this week after authorities failed to grant him a visa in time, his office said on Tuesday.

Archbishop Emeritus Desmond Tutu had invited the Tibetan spiritual leader, a fellow Nobel Peace Prize winner, to give an inaugural peace lecture as part of celebrations for Tutu's 80th birthday on Friday.

"His Holiness was to depart for South Africa on October 6, 2011 but visas have not been granted yet," said a statement from the Dalai Lama's office in India explaining the cancellation of the trip.

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  • Matt :-) - 2011-10-04 09:55

    China - 1 SA - 0

      Marcus Westin - 2011-10-04 10:05

      Corrupt ANC & China = 1 Dalai Lama = 0

      Persona_non_grata - 2011-10-04 10:05

      This is a real Dilemma Dalai Lama! If SA Government does not want you here they will keep it that way..

      Wade Mackintosh - 2011-10-04 10:08

      its actually china & ANC -2 SA-0

      Jo - 2011-10-04 10:09

      yup, and now everyone knows what is going on around here...very revealing indeed. Another blow struck at business and employment in SA.

      Bulumko - 2011-10-04 10:10

      Make that China-2 SA-0

      M. Khoza - 2011-10-04 10:16

      Employment=1 Joblessness=0 people criticizing the governments refusal to issue a visa should think on a macro level. Whats more important, a "spiritual" road trip that lasts a week or continued commercial ties with the fastest growing economy in the world? We issue this visa, china downgrades economic ties, there goes thousands of mining jobs. feed you stomach in order to have energy to feed your soul

      Richie - 2011-10-04 10:17

      How can we take anyting the Government say seriously now. This is the reason we got tossed of the security council a few years ago. It's because we postulate and have double standards. Pathetic AGAIN. They could at least be honest about it.

      DABOSS247365 - 2011-10-04 10:21

      Hey, ANC, What is it we as a nation fought for all those years? What was the point then, if nothing has changed? Your comrades are still suffering... Your people are still dying... We south Africans are still being dictated to by these "powers" that be. We are the 27th largest economy in the world, time we grow the dam backbone to match that!!!! & Just remember, as quickly as you forgot those who stood by you during the struggle, so will we in the end forget your so called struggle credentials & vote with our logic, not loyalty...

      sganja - 2011-10-04 10:25

      Letsee I don't like caps lock, please turn them off.

      Expat - 2011-10-04 10:27

      SA democracy = Laughing stock of the world

      Barry M - 2011-10-04 10:28

      I would call on all just minded South Africans to boycott chinese products - they won't get my money!

      Matt :-) - 2011-10-04 10:28

      When the Dalai Lama went to the UK, Prince Charles openly supported him as his friend, much to the disgust of China - and going against the policy of Royals not making political comments. Shame we don't have anyone in SA's government with an equal amount of goolies.

      Notuagain - 2011-10-04 10:29

      @M.Khosa. Have you ever heard of 'ethical business practice'? Who wants to do business with bullies? Lose thousands of mining jobs? I think not.

      Together - 2011-10-04 10:30

      MKhoza - if your mining industry is going to crash because your major business partner is afraid of one man, you need better business partners. This is the price of cutting off Western partners more and more - if SA has become this dependent on one country, she is in very bad trouble indeed.

      Currie_Mafia - 2011-10-04 10:31

      South Africa is China's bitch !

      Wade Mackintosh - 2011-10-04 10:35

      @M.Khoza - dont be mislead, China will never downgrade trade ties with Sa because of a stupid visa to attend a party. They are not like the ANC who will cut off their nose to spite their face.

      Matt :-) - 2011-10-04 10:35

      @ Barry M - that's a bit hard - almost everything is made in China these days...

      DABOSS247365 - 2011-10-04 10:38

      @Expat, truth be told, this is probably one of the few times where our government has followed western & world standards. These days, cash is king buddy. rish R2Bn investments? ne... who would? thats the spirirt out there. For anyone that thinks the west is a guide to democracy & freedom, think again, it is probbaly the greatest dictatorship ever to exist (Think UN, where 1 veto can overthrow the vote of every other nation in the world...)

      PB - 2011-10-04 10:41

      M.Khosa, you are clueless!!! Your head is so far up the anc's ass you can't see for yourself how many tons of READYMADE products (meaning - stuff NOT made by South African WORKERS) are being imported into our country from china. How dof do you have to be not to notice how many thousands of local workers in for eg. the clothing industry are unemployed because of chinese imports? That is just one industry - there is not a single industry not damaged by the total lack of import controls by your corrupt anc government. NO OTHER COUNTRY IN THE WORLD ARE SO CORRUPT AND GULLIBLE TO ROLL OVER AND INVITE ANOTHER COUNTRY TO JUST TRASH THEIR ECONOMY. YOU ARE DAFT IF YOU CAN'T SEE IT FOR YOURSELF. And by the way - the issue has not been whether the Dalai Lama could ADD something to the country - it is the principle of our lame 'leaders' being intimidated by their bosses in china. SHAME ANC GA POE

      Prof - 2011-10-04 10:42

      Thanks for not coming to SA Dalai Lama. We were gonna have to pay the heaviest price after your visit. China was gonna withdraw its business deals in SA.

      IC1 - 2011-10-04 10:49

      @ Barry M: Yes boycott the purchase of Springbok Jerseys as they were made in China, please buy the "knock-offs" made in Korea instead

      cliffarc - 2011-10-04 10:51

      - Prof, in that case, China are not worth having as a bed partner.

      4b6 - 2011-10-04 10:56

      BEND IT FOR CHINA, MY CHINA! Quite apart from having lost all moral credence this shameful ANC government continues to display a galling whimpish, spinelessness. It is awash in dribble and drivel. How can one respect such a government? It does nothing but talk the good talk, but fails on the implementation of either their policies or their increasingly cynical "fine" words. The Chinese will be quietly laughing at SA's lack of backbone & courage. There was after all a good enough explanation that the government could have given the was a private visit and the government needs to do right by one of the country's national stalwarts. Perhaps most spineless of all was that they didn't even have the courage to reject the visa...just procrastinated until it was too late. Show how incompetent they are to boot. Any ANC member should hang their heads in shame and embarrassment at the sheer banality of this government.

      Vive la Revolution - 2011-10-04 10:58

      Unbelievable to be honest. To think that a country which has been heralded as a beacon of hope to all those living under oppression would so quick turn their backs on a man who has devoted his entire life for the liberation of his people. This is indeed a sad day in South Africa's history. We are so deep in China's pockets that I am sure that this government will probably allow the continued culling of rhinos and the unfettered poaching of abalone if it keeps China happy. Oh and to M.Khoza. Your belief that there exists some symbiotic relationship between Africa and china is naive to say the least. This is modern colonialism, they are exploiting our mineral resources and causing mass unemployment within our clothing and textile manufacturing industries by mass exporting their cheap, mass produced cr*p to this country. Even when they have established industries within African countries, almost 80 percent of the workforce employed at those installations are Chinese expats. So how much benefit does actually trickle down to the local population?

      Matt :-) - 2011-10-04 10:58

      You have to appreciate he irony though. Like when locals go on strike because of cheap textile/clothes imports and the shirts they wear are made in China... Anyway, thanks China for the cr@p cars on our roads - Chery (knock-off of the old Chevy Spark and double the price in SA than it is in China), Chana, Geely, etc - thanks for all the cheap knock-off stuff - thanks for the 100% absolute cheap and nasty cr@p we find in cheap-stores, China City... is this the partner the ANC needs to protect???

      Prof - 2011-10-04 10:58

      cliffarc -- it's politics and unfortunately that's how they work. If you please your business partner 's enemy what would you expect from your business partner? The withdrawal and as a result your family will die of hunger. Good move by SA.

      cliffarc - 2011-10-04 11:11

      - Prof - The Chinese are your next masters and colonisers and you just cant see it.

      penada - 2011-10-04 11:17

      @ barry i am not going to stop buying goods from china becase the dalai lama was refused a visa...does that even make sense to u know how many american badged goods are actually manufactured in china? @ matt charles hugged the spiritual leader sow hat, must we now follow suit because that...what/who is charles, last i checked he was not a representative of an administration but of an historic appendix... also the british foreign policy is not the mzanzi foreign policy and thus one cannot expect Mzanzi to issue a visa to suit tutu and you news24 readers tastes for foreign dignitaries. i think there is a lot more we can take issue with the govt over rather than over Desmond and his Tibetan buddy

      texx - 2011-10-04 11:36

      Dear Mr Dalai Lama, We apologise for our stupid ANC. We the ppl would have welcomed you to our country, we hope that this incident has not darken your views of everyone in SA. It is a sad day in our Democracy. We are amazed at the lack of respect our government has towards you! But as you are aware we must please our Chinese masters.... Best wishes The real population of South Africa and not the ANC @ ANC - WTF?????

      Butterfly - 2011-10-04 12:50

      He should get a Zim Visa, then just walk across the border, coz last that I've heard it's quite easy to get across the border to SA... ;-)

      sipho - 2011-10-04 13:26

      Africa's just a big whorehouse. We'll do anything for money!

      Ayoba - 2011-10-04 16:34

      Every country don't want to jeopardise their economic relationship with China. That including European countries and Amerikanos. Even our official Rugby jerseys had to be manufactured in China. Like M.Khoza said, you choose Dalai Lama (humanitarian) or good economic ties with China to assist the countries economy. Not an easy decision for the government.

      Ayoba - 2011-10-04 17:09

      I am still trying to find the part on the article where it says S.A. refused the Dalai Lama VISA. If the application failed, as is reported, there will be no need to cancel. So as the title says, there was a delay in issuing the VISA which led to the Dalai Lama deciding to cancel.

      4b6 - 2011-10-04 17:40

      @AYOBA You are being naïve. China is not for a moment going to cancel trade with SA over a visit by the Dalai Lama. Definitely not. China desperately NEEDS Africa and its resources because it has its own huge commodity resource deficits and social problems devloping at home, not much reported due to press restrictions. They know that what Africa offers can help keep the wheels on the Communist Party. The Dalai Lama issue is a side show which they use to exert political influence. And SA has clearly succumbed weakly adn timidly to that influence, regardless of what banal excuses the government now comes up with. (It normally takes maximum 2 weeks for a SA Consulate to issue a visa and the Dalai Lama applied 5 weeks in advance... its logical hey?) I wonder if it was Europe that had exerted such influence to deny a visa, you would feel the same way about it...after all, Europe as a block is in fact our largest trading partner! Or maybe bowing down to your new Chinese masters doesn't, as yet, feel quite as bad as it did to European masters... In which case you would do well to read up on the appalling, murderous history of China since 1948....

  • Darwinian - 2011-10-04 09:55

    The liberators supports the oppressors...

      AMS-Dammer - 2011-10-04 10:26

      They, South African Govt, HAD TO DO WHAT THE CHINESE MASTERS ORDERED!!!!!

      PAR - 2011-10-04 10:33

      The only time they are liberators is when they want to sign their songs about killing the Boers for the rest of the time they are oppressors. The only way black people will truly be free is through education and the ANC have made sure this did not happen as they would have lost the vote.

      cliffarc - 2011-10-04 10:43

      - I hope the Anc are feeling very proud of themselves. Their democratic values are non- existent - their choice of getting into bed with China, fits nicely with their vision of a one party state.

      StoneFlint - 2011-10-04 10:48


      George - 2011-10-04 10:53

      Delai Lama has never been a democrat. When he ruled Tibet it was a buddhist theocracy. He ruled Tibet the same way Iran and Saudi Arabia run their countries, along strict undemocratic oppressive religous tyranny. Are people aware that until the chinese clamped on him, the Delai Lama practiced pure class based discriminatory caste system. Tibet also openly practiced slavery until the chinese abolished it. People have this false historical view that Tibet or the Delai Lama are democrats. Delai Lama openly supported the invasion of Irag by George Bush. He is a chameleon opportunist. Check these facts on the web. Social stratifcation and discrimation was abolished in Tibet when the Communists moved in. Delai Lama is not an advocate of any democracy. He must not come here until he fully embraces democratic principles. Where was the Delai Lama when a majority of SA citizens were openly oppressed, he dutifully and opportunistically kept quiet.

      sabc10 - 2011-10-04 11:12

      liberators never forget their friends that assisted them during apartheid

      Denise - 2011-10-04 13:18

      ....How do you say, “We’ve sold our soul to the devil” in Chinese?

      antwan - 2011-10-04 14:08

      Today I Burn A South African Flag. The excuse that in "SA jobs are more important", is ridiculous. If we had a decent govt. dedicated to our well-being, we'd never be put in this position by the Chinese in the first place. I burn the flag; Not because we have a govt of liars and thieves. Not because the great majority keeps on voting for them. No I burn the flag -because They have turned this beautiful country Into a whore. That's why I burn the South African Flag

      Ayoba - 2011-10-04 16:38

      I am very sure that if our government would have given the Dalai Lama the VISA many of you would criticise the government for endangering our economic relationship with China at the expense of 1 man.

  • Nick Crankshaw - 2011-10-04 09:57

    This is absolutely appauling. Unbelievable that the ANC would pull this.

      Jo - 2011-10-04 10:05

      the government is chosen by the ruling party, the ANC.

      riana.bruynslombard - 2011-10-04 10:06

      Ugggmmm, Sganja, Anc IS government?? Or am I confused?

      jen - 2011-10-04 10:07

      @Sganja, it is an ANC led government.

      daaivark - 2011-10-04 10:08

      With respect Sganja, don't be naive. The ANC hold a large majority in parliament and thus are able to bulldoze things. So although I do believe that many ANC supporters would be distressed by this, the nature of the organisation allows those in senior positions to do what they like.

      Bearman - 2011-10-04 10:10

      @sganja. ANC is the government. Geez, where have you been?

      Together - 2011-10-04 10:13

      If the ANC as an organisation cannot manage it's own government, then what possible use is it to the country and her people? Time to vote in parties that understand how to serve and deliver to all the citizens of SA - the current govt seems to owe too many strangers and aliens debts that are being paid by the people of SA on the ANC's behalf. The new ANC is too expensive for this nation - you and the youth league are luxuries that SA cannot afford.

      Gina - 2011-10-04 10:18

      Sganja, Who is the government?? Unofrtunately the country wants more trade with China so they have to deny the Dalia Lama a visa. They the government forget that we are a christian country with many different relgious sects, this visit is not for them but for the people of SA. I wonder whats gong to happen the day Jesus arrives will they stop him aswell.??

      Thor - 2011-10-04 10:19

      sganja for now the government and anc is seperate in theory. BUT the anc appoints government and for this reason they cannot distance themselfes from its failures. The rot of the anc has firmly set in within government.

      Ula Gillion - 2011-10-04 10:27

      SA Government is the slave of China

      sganja - 2011-10-04 10:27

      I hear Thor and others, then I blame Daaivark for misleading me...

      AMS-Dammer - 2011-10-04 10:29

      You ALL got it WRONG... CHINA IS the GOVT.... ANC are just the PUPPETS!!!!!

      Lwazi - 2011-10-04 10:37

      Unfortunately we as the people of the nation have been failed by our leaders, Democracy is starting to crumble and our voices go unheard. To think that a Nobel Peace Prize Laurette has been refused entry into what is known as the worlds most democratic country, where citizens and freedom of speech rule, this is saddening. I am proud to be a South African but some things have to change in our leadership, we cannot have this issue alongside the talks of secrecy bills affecting the image of our beautiful country. Its time for change and we need to speak up and unite against "the powers that be" that ruin the image that we try to portray. Disappointing outcome nonetheless.

      daaivark - 2011-10-04 10:44

      Context, Sganja. But don't let the details get in the way of thinking, please. What who said when is NOT the issue.

      TheGoat - 2011-10-04 10:44

      Some Apple ?

      Hackney - 2011-10-04 10:44

      Shame @sganja, its so easy to be "mislead" when your a sheep. Baaaaffoon!

      TheGoat - 2011-10-04 11:21

      Oh yes and Nicky you owe me some tea still punk, get cracking!

      willieman - 2011-10-04 11:21

      @ sganja suddenly there is difference between anc and goverment--CONVINIENCE

      Phlegm - 2011-10-04 17:46

      Ayoba - I am sure you agree, sadly I think many whites would be prepared to pay some form of tax that would result in what we all fought for during Apartheid, something called "equal rights", sadly post-Apartheid South Africa has thrown equal rights out the window, BEE, BBBEE, AA etc, all whites are criminals etc, etc, if they paid a tax would these racist policies be dropped? Would they no longer be victimised and persecuted based on the colour of their skin? Ayoba, your blatant racism is just pathetic, loser!

  • tut - 2011-10-04 09:57

    In other words, the ANC have told him that their pockets are much more important than their integrity. Shameless ANC but no surprise at all as the Dalai Lama was never going to be granted a VISA while the ANC are fornicating with their Chinese mates.

      sganja - 2011-10-04 10:03

      Government should fire officials...

      daaivark - 2011-10-04 10:09

      I agree Sganja.... starting at the very top. That's where the major problem lies.

      Together - 2011-10-04 10:15

      If the ANC as an organisation cannot manage it's own government, then what possible use is it to the country and her people? Time to vote in parties that understand how to serve and deliver to all the citizens of SA - the current govt seems to owe too many strangers and aliens debts that are being paid by the people of SA on the ANC's behalf. The new ANC is too expensive for this nation - you and the youth league are luxuries that SA cannot afford.

  • Islay - 2011-10-04 09:57

    What a sorry indictment of a spineless government - not up to supporting those who supported them in their fight for democracy. The ANC no longer have the moral high ground and no right to respect by the international community.

      AJ2 - 2011-10-04 10:08

      Hell, they lost that right ages ago..

  • Bill - 2011-10-04 09:57

    This Government should be ashamed of themselves...! Siding their socialist Chinese buddies…!

      Currie_Mafia - 2011-10-04 10:35

      Zuma knows 2 chinese words: "How hi ?"

      Matt :-) - 2011-10-04 10:52

      @ Currie - LOL! I wonder if Chairman Zuma uses rhino horn like his Chinese masters - seeing how he's always steeking women instead of running the country

  • JabaJaba - 2011-10-04 09:58

    The DELAYED LAMA....

  • Kurt - 2011-10-04 09:58

    The more things change, the more they stay the same... Sensorship, racial classification, banning (e.g internet gambling). Funny how well the current goverment learned from the Nats... I must say I do not really care about the Lama issue. There is other more important things to sort out.

      genet - 2011-10-04 15:04

      Pity the current government didn't learn how to keep the infrastructure running like the Nats.

  • daaivark - 2011-10-04 09:59

    POLITICIANS! The public loo on Greenmarket Square smells better.

  • Obama - 2011-10-04 10:00

    Looks like China has more influence in this country than we thought... This is going to be a PR nightmare for the Dpt of International Relations.

  • The Patriot - 2011-10-04 10:00

    Not surprising, freedom and democracy ANC style. Other oppressed countries dont count i.e. Cubans; Tibetans; Libyans; Zimbabweans etc. The list goes on.

  • Christo - 2011-10-04 10:00

    You idiots!

  • Charles Kane - 2011-10-04 10:00

    Cowards! How quickly you forget what you fought for.

  • phillip.havenga - 2011-10-04 10:01

    I can not say that I'm surprised, the ANC has shown time and time again that they only support murderers and dictators. They are far more worried about keeping their old allies and cash cows happy than what is in the best interest of the country.

      PB - 2011-10-04 10:47

      Wonder if their deeeeeeeeep pockets are also overflowing with chinese bribes....

  • Veld66 - 2011-10-04 10:02

    Its a huge shame for this country!!! Morons running it Grrrrrrrrrggggg

  • Nesomaniac - 2011-10-04 10:03

    Typical of our ANC kindergarten dropouts! Delay making decisions until it's too late.

  • MaKaZa - 2011-10-04 10:03

    A Thundering Disgrace!!! so shameful of our government...

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  • riana.bruynslombard - 2011-10-04 10:04

    I dont even have words. How sad!

  • BigR - 2011-10-04 10:04

    Why are we surprised? The ruling party has shown themselves to be just like most other African countries after independance...forget all the lofty ideals they proclaimed to have struggled for, and then proceed to line their pockets through any means possible.

  • MarkC - 2011-10-04 10:05

    May they burn in hell!

      daaivark - 2011-10-04 10:14

      Please explain this nasty and juvenile remark.

      MarkC - 2011-10-04 10:25

      @daaivark - May those in government who colluded to prevent the Delai Lama's visit from materialising burn in hell. Does that help?

      TheBestMan - 2011-10-04 10:31

      @MarkC: "May they burn in hell! " Tutu and Lama? Agreed!

      daaivark - 2011-10-04 10:47

      Ah yes, I see you two have formed a club. Good. Now you won't feel so lonely.

  • Anneleen - 2011-10-04 10:06

    What a disgraceful way he was treated.

  • Ann - 2011-10-04 10:08

    Shameful, shameful...

  • grietab - 2011-10-04 10:09

    shame on you, SA government

  • Tania - 2011-10-04 10:10

    I am so ashamed to call myself a South African today :(

      sganja - 2011-10-04 10:17

      Don't be Tania Don't be...

      Matt :-) - 2011-10-04 10:23

      Why? I'm from the UK originally and I'm proud of my SA citizenship and residency in SA. Don't let the ghastly ANC get to you - SA and the SA people rock!

      maloplakhath - 2011-10-04 11:10

      No one is stoping you from leaving South Africa,what are you still waiting for?

      Adelaide Lungi Dimba - 2011-10-04 11:35

      If you are so ashamed, why don't you apply for a citizenship in UK.

      Tania - 2011-10-04 12:43

      you people really don't get it ... the Dalai Lama is a Peace Ambassador!!!! & silly people like you will always make comments like "why don't you leave SA" i'm ashamed that the Government of South Africa would not GRANT a Peace Ambassador a visa to South Africa!!! do you not know what the Dalai Lama is all about or are you people just plain ignorant??

      Tania - 2011-10-04 12:44

      @Adelaide if i would leave I definitely NOT apply for citizenship in the UK!

      moreso - 2011-10-04 13:40

      @maloplakhath, and who's underwear will you be washing after all the professionals have left?

  • Nicolene.Small.Blignaut - 2011-10-04 10:10

    Oh well how embarrassing, what a strong independent democracy we have

  • Mnumzane - 2011-10-04 10:11

    Dalai Lama cancelled the trip while the Govt was busy processing his application. Why then blame the ANC or the Govt for Dalai Lama cancellation. In reality what is that our country was going to benefit through his visit. So far nothing except for him to eat Tutu's cake. Tutu must use the money to help poor South Africans othere than flying this old man around.

      daaivark - 2011-10-04 10:15

      Pffft. If you don't understand what has been said already, there's no hope for you, my friend.

      LaVie - 2011-10-04 10:18

      Busy processing the application???!! - This could have taken a year! Who said Tutu was flying him around?

      Jaco - 2011-10-04 10:21

      Mnumzane, the Tutut party is on Friday you idiot. Where do you think the Dalai Lama lives, in Lesotho?

      BadSpike - 2011-10-04 10:45

      Man, you are dumb. Stay away from these sites if you can not use some logic. He cancelled because he could not get a visa.

      brownbomber - 2011-10-04 11:01

      Your comments suck. Are you an OBE dumb graduate?

      Vernon - 2011-10-04 12:20

      bru you so stupid it no longer funny

      tkshiga - 2011-10-04 12:45

      His Holiness was to depart for SA on October 6th but visas have not been granted until this morning (4th Oct). Therefore, he felt that it was inconvenient to issue visa. I personally feel, he has helped SA government to take the decision. I am really worried, what will happen to this beautiful and rich country after 10-15 years, if it goes on having leaders like the one it is having today. What are we going to pass on to our younger generation, i wonder?

      Tax_payer - 2011-10-04 13:14

      You not very clued up are you ? The delay was so that he does not come to the country. You do know who the Dalai Lama is? Have you read any of his books. I read one recently and in it he was talking to the people of New York in Central Park saying "All MEN ARE EQUAL" be you black, white, brown. Do you think this is a bad philosophy? Go do some reading and educate yourself. The Dalai Lama was declined a visit to SA previously.

  • LaVie - 2011-10-04 10:11

    What a Banana Republic!! The visit of the Dalai Lama would have given SA some credibility, but our "democratic" government decided to frustrate the DL not to visit SA. The man was awarded the Nobel Peace, what threat could he be to our government? A little less in their pockets perhaps?? Shame on you Mr. Zuma, as head of our government you could have shown more leadership and should have welcomed the Dalai Lama.

      IsThatAFact - 2011-10-04 10:54

      zuma admitted he dose not know whats going on, you would have thought he would have found out more in between this disgrace and his statement yesterday. Lets see what he says now about what happend bet its ungaze, whos fault ungaze why ungaze what are you going to do about it ungaze Im applying my mind so on and so forth

      IsThatAFact - 2011-10-04 11:03

      A point, You would have thought there would be a big diplomatic flurry from zuma to rectify this disaster if this was not the intended outcome

      semaj - 2011-10-04 13:32

      Zuma never sees what he does not want to see, and then, if he should mistakenly do so, takes the majority view, which, in this case, is China's so-called interest. A pox upon you Zuma!!!

  • Adrian - 2011-10-04 10:11

    What a useless bunch of emasculated, shameless cowards the ANC government is! From the president down there is absolutely no-one with balls. No integrity, no morals, no energy. It's all about themselved. I'm even more embarrassed by these incompetents than I ever was by the apartheid cabal.

      CALVIN KUNENE - 2011-10-04 10:57

      This useless govt that you are referring to is the same govt that protected white South Africans at the expense of black people. Stats shows that whites in SA are making more money than before. ANC is pro whites in SA. We need a strong political party that will take over the land and large industries and help the poor. If that's scares the investors then let it be, Lets all be poor than to watch certain section of the population living like kings in our country.

      Snow F Lake - 2011-10-04 16:17

      Calvin, some whites survive despite a corrupt, incompetent and racist government only interested in self profiteering at the expense of the South African people ...but all South Africans suffer from this which is why we all deserve a better government.

      Janine - 2011-10-04 18:43

      @Calvin - "ANC is pro whites'? HA ha ha ha ha ha - that is a good joke.

      Clive - 2011-10-04 20:47

      @Calvin, you are a dreamer. What you write has nothing to do with the Dalai Lama issue, other than the fact that it will further discourage investment. With no investment there will be NO jobs - for anyone, black or white, then we will ALL be poor. And if you think that it is only white people who live like kings, then you must have been visiting some distant planet over the last few years. In fact, newly-rich blacks are far more ostentatious about showing off their (often ill-gotten) wealth in front of the really poor than whites are. Like it or not, it is the wealthy who create jobs. But no, you want a political party to take over land and industries when we all know that the inevitable result will be starvation and mismanagement. Look at Zimbabwe and our own parastatals - Eskom, SAA, Transnet, Alexcor, etc, etc, etc.

  • Clinton - 2011-10-04 10:12

    Apartheid BACK in full swing!!!!

  • daaivark - 2011-10-04 10:12

    Of course, strategically it is a pity that he cancelled, as this now allows a loophole for our bunch of jackboot dancers. Now it becomes easy for them to turn it around and criticise him for not being patient, saying that they were on the point of granting the visa, but now, in the light of... etc. etc. etc.

      Together - 2011-10-04 10:21

      He probably cancelled to save his friend the embarrassment - which is a kindness. They can say anything they like - anyone watching this knows exactly why they delayed. And that is how the current version of the ANC deals with everything - hearings, delivery, commissions, investigations, visas, repayment of embezzled travel money, trials - delay in the hope that everyone will forget or somehow it will go away. It's the kind of behaviour one expects from small children and tik addicts - just one more tweak and it will all go away. We should hang signs all over SA: "Govt wanted - people of any colour, gender or creed - just so long as you don't have a criminal record, you understand consequence, you don't cave to bullies and you know how to complete a project - apply within".

      daaivark - 2011-10-04 10:48

      I do agree with you, together. My thoughts exactly, but my argument still holds.

  • unrealchris - 2011-10-04 10:13

    Thanks a lot SA! Nice to see you folding because of China!

  • juan - 2011-10-04 10:13

    Okay...Boss China!

  • Zee - 2011-10-04 10:15

    Truly pathetic from the people we call government. A man of such peace, and after the past we've had! Embarrassed to be South African, embarrassed that my beloved country is run by brainless, lazy thugs and continually voted in by their idiot supporters!

  • Xzaviera - 2011-10-04 10:16

    South Africa should be ashamed!!! Blerrie oorbetaalde patetiese verskonings vir etters!

  • semaj - 2011-10-04 10:16

    We all knew that our "Chinese Bitch" government would react this way, so what is new?

  • Sparks_Spark - 2011-10-04 10:16

    Same old story of "Hurry up and wait". Its a sad state of affairs that the Dalai Lama has had to cancel his visit. According to reports, he had to go through the NORMAL Visa application process. Would Bob or Gadafi also wait and go through the NORMAL Visa application process? I think not... What a disgrace!!

  • desmond.nair - 2011-10-04 10:17

    Shame on the SA Government! Your refusal to grant this Holy Man a visa is disgraceful!

  • riana.bruynslombard - 2011-10-04 10:18

    OK, lets just forget for a second that most of us as South Africans are feeling ashamed and sad that someone of his stature and beliefs are treated in this way by our officials, who claim to promote the same. Lets rather think how this will be perceived in other countries... South Africa wins the Political Circus Trophy AGAIN!!

  • CB57 - 2011-10-04 10:18

    DIS - frikkin' - GUSTING SA government!

  • Eternity - 2011-10-04 10:18

    How sad :(

  • WiseOwl2 - 2011-10-04 10:20

    We have a new fiddle emerging - JZ - China. This ANC has forgotten about the human element -

  • IC1 - 2011-10-04 10:21

    The ANC Govt is a pastmaster at shooting itself in the left foot whilst it has the right foot in its mouth, and China giving it a shot up the butt. Well done you idiots have shown the world just how stupid and fickle you are. Tutu, think about this the next time you want to have a little rant at the whites in the country to curry favour with your comrades of old, you chop!

  • CB57 - 2011-10-04 10:21

    @M.Khoza - "economic ties" with regard to the Chinese = over-exploitation of our natural resources and believe me not to the benefit of the people but to the desposts and dictators and crackpots of which Africa abounds!

  • Otello - 2011-10-04 10:21

    His Holiness !!! He is just another self-appointed religious fake and parasite misleading people. The ANC should have granted him a visa, now the perpetual martyr is getting the media attention he thrives on.

      Baakens - 2011-10-04 10:33

      Are you scared of non christians?

      bonny - 2011-10-04 11:18

      Evidentally the chap didn't pay attention to the "don't judge" rule in bible class 101.

      tkshiga - 2011-10-04 12:55

      hey frd, you have got the most number of dislike. I guess, there is something wrong in your thought. Just check, it is a suggest.

  • Lynne - 2011-10-04 10:22

    Can't help wondering if this is because the Chinese are our friends or if it's just the usual SA bureaucratic inefficiency.

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  • Deeteem - 2011-10-04 10:25

    So sad for our "democracy" !! Thank you herdboy and his sheep !!

  • TRiP - 2011-10-04 10:25

    The ancestors are going to be really upset and send more tornadoes to rural areas. nice one you corrupt raping scandalous thieving basterds

  • Mark - 2011-10-04 10:27

    Why not host Kim Jong Il next? I mean he's a capital guy! China supports him so he must be something really great. SA government - get your face out of China's lap and look around. You scream about foreign interest impacting 'sovereignty' in Libya and Zimbabwe, but then assume the position on China's whim. Anyhow, this fear of China shutting down ties because of some visit is trash. Fidel Castro and the North Korean Youth can come and go as they please, and no one even makes a sound about trade relations with the US/UK/EU going south. If you were really interested in maintaining an even hand, those Communist pigs responsible for the deaths of millions would be denied entry, too.

      daaivark - 2011-10-04 10:48

      And your point is?