Dalai Lama saga 'embarrassing'

2011-10-06 11:39

Cape Town - The way government has dealt with the Dalai Lama's visa application reflects poorly on all those responsible, the FW de Klerk Foundation said on Thursday.

The foundation's Centre for Constitutional Rights CEO Dave Steward said former president FW de Klerk had on September 16 stated that a visa should be granted to the Dalai Lama because South Africa was an open society that respected freedom of religion.

"The FW de Klerk Foundation is accordingly deeply concerned over the debacle that has now arisen over the Dalai Lama’s visa application," he said.

The Dalai Lama was a globally respected spiritual leader, a Nobel Peace Prize winner, and a firm advocate of non-violence.

It was difficult to understand, under these circumstances, the failure to grant him a visa in time for his scheduled departure for South Africa.

Not an official visit

"The claim of the department of international relations and co-operation that they did not refuse his visa and that it was still being processed is simply disingenuous," Steward said.

There had inevitably been speculation that the decision was based on reluctance to upset the Chinese government.

However, his visit was not official and would not have involved any formal meeting with the South African government.

All governments had a responsibility to control entry into their territory. If visitors posed a potential security risk - if they had criminal associations or if they did not have the means to maintain themselves - it was quite appropriate to refuse them entry.

"Clearly, the Dalai Lama does not fall into any of these categories," he said.

It was also accepted that South Africa’s foreign policy should be informed by the values in the Constitution, including the principles of democratic governance, freedom of association, and freedom of religion.

The Dalai Lama qualified eminently in terms of all these values and should have been welcomed to South Africa as an honoured guest.

"The manner in which this matter has been dealt with reflects poorly on all those responsible."

It was also an embarrassment to all South Africans, not least of all to his host, Archbishop Emeritus Desmond Tutu, whose 80th birthday celebrations the Dalai Lama had been invited to attend, he said.

  • gekko - 2011-10-06 11:44


      Christo - 2011-10-06 11:50

      Something is cooking. Why not? Who has to make this decision? This person should explain and give us a reason.

      THE-SRG - 2011-10-06 11:53

      now the world has stopped laughing at us...we have gone beyond a joke!

      Persona_non_grata - 2011-10-06 11:54

      If he really wanted to come to SA he could have this is not SA fault and there is no need to feel embarrassed at all. Dalai Lama could just have flown to Zimbabwe and then walk over to SA, now visa no passport no problem in SA ones. So please stop accusing SA of their incompetency.

      StoneFlint - 2011-10-06 11:54

      The ANC is usless!! What more is their to be said?

      Civil_Rights - 2011-10-06 11:55

      You denied him a Visa. So think of Malema's hospital drama as Karma at its best.

      Slartibartfast - 2011-10-06 12:05

      Yaaaaawwwwwnnnn indeed! This is nw getting boring. No truthful answers will be forthcoming no matter how hard anyone tries.

      GypseyAnn - 2011-10-06 12:06

      gekko - if you find these things boring or not of value, perhaps you should either keep your opinions to yourself and not spread your feelings all over what is actually of quite a lot of interest to many people in the country. I agree that the whole saga is entirely embarrassing to South Africa who usually are renowned around the world for their hospitality. However, it seems that the current government has no spine and are just extremely rude to a man who has sacrificed much to bring a message of peace and hope to the world. In fact, so has Archbishop Tutu ...

      MojoBa - 2011-10-06 12:07

      Maybe that's the real reason the ANC did not want the DL here. He preaches peace and that would go against all the destruction that they are instigating Malema to sow. Hmmmmm

      THE-SRG - 2011-10-06 12:12

      well done to Persona_non_grata...he took a joke and made it into an @55 wipe of a comment.

      The Wonderer - 2011-10-06 12:38

      Dear Dalai.... Fly to Zimbabwe, and walk over the border. NO Visa required. See you Friday. Regards, Tutu

      The J - 2011-10-06 12:42

      With you Gekko. Mate this is dreadfully boring and I could not care about any Socio Economical/Political/Humanitarian implications resonating from this. There are a hell of a lot more pressing things in this country relating to similar issues. I say let'e get behind the Boks for the RWC QF against Aussie on Sunday.

      RobertKay - 2011-10-06 13:04

      @ gekko - Sick comment! Not much else one can say about a pathetic person like you.

      Met - 2011-10-06 13:07

      And after he has crossed the border into SA pop into Home Affairs and apply for an ID in the name of Dalai vd Merwe. He should be drawing a SA pension within 6 months PS Attach R500 to the application

      texx - 2011-10-06 13:16

      HOW CAN YOU PPL BE YAWNING AT THIS???? do you not understand what just happened, what it means to a democratic society?? Or are just not interested that our government has just made fools out of the entire country.....insane ppl

      gekko - 2011-10-06 13:48

      @GypseyAnn - With all due respect if you think that having a fit on a useless News24 blog is going to make the government care about any issues you or I might have is laughable. @RobertKay - Go F*%K yourself.Regards Gekko

      GypseyAnn - 2011-10-06 13:57

      @ gekko - lucky you never swore at me - I would swat you VERY hard.

      The J - 2011-10-06 15:28

      Texx. There hundreds of other things that happen in this country that don't correspond with the guidelines of a democratic society and you pick something as insignificant as a foreign guy wearing an old curtain nodding crazily to bystanders to rage about. Does he even bear any significance from a religious perspective relating to the majority of beliefs of the people of SA? To quote gekko "YAWN"

  • sniperman - 2011-10-06 11:45

    If only the Dalai Lama was a Nigerian drug dealer it would have been so easy for a visa..........

      JR - 2011-10-06 12:12

      So true sniperman. Look at Kradic, Taylor, Mugabe and all the other criminals that are allowed into this country. Had they slippped Zuma some cash then he would have got his Visa in no time at all. Corruption rules now in SA

      THE-SRG - 2011-10-06 12:15

      what does kolobe know about anything.PISS OFF

      GuyverXT9 - 2011-10-06 12:18

      LOL, kolobe, put a sock in it. Your opinion is worthless.

      Al G - 2011-10-06 12:20

      Ag jirre Kolobe, really? It is because of De Klerk that you have your "freedom".

      Pencilgraffiti - 2011-10-06 12:37

      Jeesh Kolobe... wow... that is dumb... de Klerk, Mandela & Tutu are the reasons there was no civil war in the 1990's.

      Jon JJ - 2011-10-06 12:40

      @kolobe - well he's the fool that put this mnkey government in place. Pretty ironic isn't it?

      Sammy - 2011-10-06 12:42

      @Kolobe, if he did not do what needed to be done you'd still be in the bush! kindly voetsek kwagga?

      Prof - 2011-10-06 12:45

      Al G ----We were going to have our freedom anyway. De Klerk must stop acting like he knows what freedom is all about. Pencilgraffiti ---Civil war?? You were the minority by then and you knew that if you tried something like that, we would eat you alive.

      Pencilgraffiti - 2011-10-06 12:53

      Oh Prof i must apologise for being thankful that there wasn't a war... However short it would have been. I'm sorry i am thankful for people like Mandela and Tutu who preached peace instead of revenge.

      pommie-abroad - 2011-10-06 12:56

      @Kolobe.... well he may have given them (ANC) the chance to rule but you tossers keep them there...goddamn muppets

      kolobe - 2011-10-06 13:03

      good, we all agree he is a former apartheid president

      christoff.truter - 2011-10-06 13:07

      Thanks to De Klerk, you're free to be dom ;)

      Jon JJ - 2011-10-06 13:12

      @kolobe - so from your perspective what was wrong with apartheid? What was wrong with living in your own communities with your own people? Do you not like being with your own people? Why do you feel this dire need to share your existance with whites? Do you think your own people are losers?

      Prof - 2011-10-06 13:15

      kolobe-- mara batho ba why ba ne hlogo tse thata so?

      Al G - 2011-10-06 13:21

      Prof, you guys must quit believing in your numbers. The fact that you are a majority doesnt mean you are invincible. We have proven that over and over again in history.

      lordwabbitspam - 2011-10-06 13:28

      kolobe - if it was not for that former apartheid president we would have had a civil war and you would not now be able to vote. go read a history book, an actual history book and not the crap they teach in schools.

      Prof - 2011-10-06 13:48

      Al G -- Those were our forefathers 's problem. We are in the 20th century and you wont do anything to us.

      kolobe - 2011-10-06 13:54

      Prof a ba re rate

      Prof - 2011-10-06 14:27

      kolobe --Le rena ga re ba rate. gape ga re tlo nqengana le bona for nnoto nne

      alvinsa - 2011-10-06 19:07

      @kolobe - What does the ANCYL know about the struggle? Most of them were 3 years old when the ANC took over the Country. In fact where would the ANC be, were it not for people like Desmond Tutu. To deny a guest of Desmond Tutu access to the Country is utterly embarrassing. Have they no shame?

      G-spotWizard - 2011-10-07 09:06

      If you read this article you will undertand why: The fact that the DA and any other political party has remained quite on this matter tells you that this is not an ANC issue, any political party could have done the same. We are powerless before china no wonder all chinese shops in chinese malls in this country don't pay tax. This is well known to SARS. If SARS is willing to turn a blind eye and sacrifice that revenue to please china, SA government will go to any length to make their boss happy. On the same note I guess if osama bin laden was still alive and applied for SA visa he would get it because SA will want to show that they are not affraid of america.

  • Marcel Mozzy Bolzli - 2011-10-06 11:47

    The SA government is bureaucratic only when it suites them...

      Civil_Rights - 2011-10-06 11:59

      It's a Woodwork Policy for these pinocchios

      StoneFlint - 2011-10-06 12:14 true

  • makana shandukani - 2011-10-06 11:47

    Its a show case that there is no service delivery in the SA government + they refused him a Visa. this government really doesn't represent us.

      GypseyAnn - 2011-10-06 12:08

      Too true Makana - spread the word to those who are still being fooled!

  • Matt :-) - 2011-10-06 11:48

    More importantly, what does Juju say about the visa issue? Oops I forgot, he's on his deathbed with a runny nose

      like2comment - 2011-10-06 12:00


  • EnglishBoer - 2011-10-06 11:54

    OK enough of the daily Dalai stories now.

      Civil_Rights - 2011-10-06 12:05

      I know you want the media to focus on your low IQ. This matter should be echoed on all platforms in order for the message to dissiminate effectively to the masses thus making people make sensible democratic choices in the next elections.

      daaivark - 2011-10-06 12:07

      Kindly speak for yourself.... I think there are very many people that want anything but having this absurd debacle quietly go away. I think people want answers, and even though there seems not to be a snowball's hope in hell of ever getting any form of logic out of the bunch of arrogant idiots so desperately calling the shots but pretending not to have anything to do with anything, I think people are going to keep trying and hammering away at the ridiculous wall of inane comment or silence.

      EnglishBoer - 2011-10-06 12:07

      @Civil_dildo It has been echoed over and over. Only a thick-headed liberal twat such as yourself wouldnt have got the message by now.

      EnglishBoer - 2011-10-06 12:16

      @daaivark there are far more serious problems that need to be highlighted and broadcast, such as the 16 year old girl that was gang raped on a KZN beach yesterday. Do you think she or her family care about the Dalai Lama's visa right now?

      Civil_Rights - 2011-10-06 12:39

      Ok EnglishBoer you on the right track but on the wrong train.The are stories of a similar magnitude, but if we never get answers than we might as well welcome the secrecy bill.

      Civil_Rights - 2011-10-06 12:43

      Ok EnglishBoer you on the right track but on the wrong train.The are stories of a similar magnitude, but if we never get answers than we might as well welcome the secrecy bill.

      Pencilgraffiti - 2011-10-06 12:44

      EnglishBoer... That's what the WHOLE argument is about. Not necessarily just the Dalai Lama not being allowed but the reason behind it. The fact that the government cares more about R20 than the morals that bought this country freedom... The morals that should keep us all safe from harm... The morals, that if Cele adhered to them, may have an influence on the police force... Stop corruption, stop wasteful spending, create jobs and ultimately stopping acts like the one you mentioned from happening. This has international attention so it puts pressure on the government - Hence we have a small leg to stand on. - Wake the F up!

      EnglishBoer - 2011-10-06 13:29

      @Pencildick I think you need to wake the F up. The international community doesnt give a sh*t about South Africa. The only people that can sort this country out is ourselves, not the Dalai Lama, not the East, not the West etc. They dont care dumbo.

      EnglishBoer - 2011-10-06 13:35

      Civil_Rights do you understand the meaning of the term "similar magnitude"? Did you give a crap about the Dalai Lama lets say a month ago? Had you even heard of him? Have the balls to tackle the real issues that are ravaging this country you inept little turd.

      Pencilgraffiti - 2011-10-06 13:40

      Yes, and the lonely whiteboertjie hating everyone around him is gonna inspire a nation to fix itself....

      EnglishBoer - 2011-10-06 13:51

      @Pecildick I dont hate everyone, I hate criminals and liberal douchebags. You are the latter.

      kalabafazi - 2011-10-06 14:21

      The EnglishBore perhaps

  • Red Lion - 2011-10-06 11:54

    Oh put a sock in it Fw , if it wasnt for you we would not have had these animals running the country now!!!! So do you blame them....traitor

      Dorsy7 - 2011-10-06 12:01

      Lame...If there was no apartheid govt, there would have been no animals. Apartheid govt trained the animals you see in govt now. Look carefully at yourself...u may be no better, bitter assh***.

      Johnny-BB - 2011-10-06 12:08

      Red Lion, agree..!! .....FW die Griek.. are irrelevant...!! ...shut your mouth and please disappear...!!!! ....voetsek..!!

      MojoBa - 2011-10-06 12:11

      @Dorsy7 - these people were animals long before apartheid.

      Pencilgraffiti - 2011-10-06 12:50

      This is all just quite sad... You complain about a government yet you are all quite happy about enforced slavery... By the by - If de Klerk didn't do what he did, a war would have transpired and most likely most white people in S.A. would be dead right now. Look at your children smiling the next time you think like an idiot

      Prof - 2011-10-06 13:09

      Pencilgraffiti -- i start to like the way u think now...

      Prof - 2011-10-06 13:19

      Dorsy7 & Red Lion --to say people are animals is an insult in my culture. definition of an animal : is in jou brook.

      Pencilgraffiti - 2011-10-06 13:48

      Prof - I don't care if my president is black, white, coloured or purple... I just want him or her to be Just. Our President needs to lead by example... And at the moment that is a far away dream. The people bicker about petty things like how tanned your skin is whilst the government elite steal OUR money

      alvinsa - 2011-10-06 19:16

      @Pencilgraffiti - Heaven forbid you spill a drink on him...

      Pencilgraffiti - 2011-10-06 19:52

      Hahaha! - Yes! One who is just and knows when to pack an umbrella

  • crocodile - 2011-10-06 11:57

    the govt owes us an explanation.they went to far this time

      Mnumzane - 2011-10-06 12:31

      Also the Delai Lama owes us an explanation as to why he decided to cancel when his visa was about to be issued. Maybe he ran out of cash to pay for the flight.

  • Gordon20 - 2011-10-06 11:57

    I heard the Dalai Lama was granted a Visa for Zimbabwe and will just walk across the bored with the other 20 000 "visitors".

      GypseyAnn - 2011-10-06 12:09

      Obviously you have received the emailed letter from the Arch :)

      Colleen - 2011-10-07 07:55

      actually there are more than 20. 000, some where along the line they stopped counting.

  • daaivark - 2011-10-06 12:01

    Bietjie laat op die wa, boetie.

  • Tolerant - 2011-10-06 12:05

    We can all agree that SA is becoming once again (like during apartheid), the laughing stock of the wold.

      Mnumzane - 2011-10-06 12:28

      Not really. they understand why SA took so long to process the visa. Only u don't understand.

  • Nic - 2011-10-06 12:06

    vut Tsek ANC

  • Slartibartfast - 2011-10-06 12:09

    It still concerns me that not one International leader has been reported as condemning the ANC and it's actions herein .... wonder why?

      Mnumzane - 2011-10-06 12:26

      They would have done the same to the Delai Lama if he wanted to visit their countries.

  • Paniekbevang - 2011-10-06 12:16

    The ANC government is appalling, and failing on every level.

  • Fredster69 - 2011-10-06 12:16

    It is kinda expected from SA

  • Honestly - 2011-10-06 12:17

    Why do we need another Spiritual leader to visit SA? We have Zuma, Malema and company to look after the needs of the masses. The chief herdsman and his understudy

  • BUGATTI - 2011-10-06 12:18

    As embarressing as what FW is to the Afrikaners.

  • Ingie - 2011-10-06 12:20

    please try and get over this now..enough news spent on this which as we all know and all see is a losing battle. Move on to something new now N24.

  • Paulo - 2011-10-06 12:24

    Ja but Robert Mugabe can come and go as he likes-i thinks that's fair.

  • Mnumzane - 2011-10-06 12:24

    Life will be normal in RSA come Saturday with or without the Delai Lama. DeKlerk is just a former President. During his time they also made so many mistakes. If he wants to dine with the Dalai Lama he can fly to India.

  • morena - 2011-10-06 12:25

    now FW and his foundation are the model for good governance haiiii

  • Andrew - 2011-10-06 12:25

    We are heading back to where we came from

  • kilo39 - 2011-10-06 12:26

    What this government has failed to acknowledge to it's people is that the relationship with China is very one-sided one that ultimately will only benefit China. Yes there may be very short term opportunities but these will only really benefit the 'power mongers' who have already shown themselves, beyond any reasonable doubt, to generally be corrupt liars and thieves. Has even one corrupt 'senior' official been 'nailed to the wall' for his/her indiscretions. The answer is an emphatic no...they may have been rapped over the knuckles, redeployed or in some cases promoted. South Africa, stand up and be recognised as an abject failure in good governance and logic. These so called Leaders learnt how to talk the talk, but without exception, not one of them can walk the talk. I am afraid they are proving to the rest of the world...again....that black people cannot successfully govern a country. I pray that the world can be proved wrong, but I would not bet 1 rand on being proved wrong. The poor will get poorer and more numerous and the rich will get richer and fewer.

  • Prof - 2011-10-06 12:28

    We can complain and complain ,but at the end of the day it's our government and there is nothing we can do. It's their decision and final. Finito!

      PinkandProud - 2011-10-06 12:39

      Actually there's a lot you can do. Next election vote with your brain and vote the scum out.

  • Colin - 2011-10-06 12:30


  • rocco norris - 2011-10-06 12:37

    To be expected from this country.....big yawn

  • jconn1 - 2011-10-06 12:41


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  • Dalai - 2011-10-06 12:43

    To say it's embarrassing is probably an understatement

  • JustinX - 2011-10-06 12:44

    Like the FW De Klerk foundation is worth anything. They do nothing for this country. Headed by a Quitter!

  • JCWR56 - 2011-10-06 12:47

    there is more to this episode than pure ANC ineptitude and arrogance. i believe some or other forum has manipulated this knowing full well that the current regime would dilly dalai (geddit?) on the issue and cause themselves immeasurable embarrasment. I for one will be watching the media over the next few months as i fully expect to see a rise in this type of activity. my theory is that it's orchestrated purely to get rid of Zuma as head of the ANC and set up another candidte to run the country. I will be the first to admit there's not much option, Sexwale, Ramaphosa could do it, but as they say - "better the devil you know"

  • mbuzi mee - 2011-10-06 12:52

    shame poor old TUTU it was his birthday wish to spend it with his friend. what if he dies after that day?? wouldnt the ANC feel guilty for not fulfilling his wish??

  • Damian - 2011-10-06 12:54

    This is so typical, I bet JayZee was scared that the Dalai Lama would see how useless they are and he would pray for a better South Africa that isn't run by corrupt power hungry incompetent jesters...

  • Dalai - 2011-10-06 12:54

    Denying my namesake a VISA is incomprehensible.

  • Dalai - 2011-10-06 12:58

    I am Dalai Rama, not Dalai Lama. In no way are we related, unless if you are Zulu and you can't differentiate an R from an L. Thanks for your comments anyway.

  • alan.cargen - 2011-10-06 12:59

    Dear Dalai Fly to Zim and walk across the border. NO VISA REQUIRED. See you Friday Regards Desmond.

      Ingie - 2011-10-06 13:04

      velly good

  • papzo - 2011-10-06 13:06

    I wish that the FW de Klerk Foundation could have said something about DUDUZA'FICKSBURG and RUSTENBURG's tornado or is it the fact that only blacks were affected there so it has got nothing to do with them? I couldn't give a damn whether Dalai Lama got the visa to SA or not especially when my people are trying to get by in the aftermath of such a disaster!!!!!!!1

      Shailo - 2011-10-06 16:59

      Duh! Your government hasn't had much to say about the tornados either. In fact, on television and radio the first people who called on others to help the affected where peole from the dutch Reformed Churched, who provided shelter and who got people to donate food, clothes and blankets. Hooter Mothe Malema hasn't said a word about the disaster, nor has any of the of the other high and mighty lazy twats up in government. All they care about is shoving as much of the taxpayer's money into their own bulging pockets.

  • Tshepo - 2011-10-06 13:10

    This was made a political matter by the "man of peace" himself.... It's clear now that Mr Tutu is a DA member... i don know why we fight each other for something that doesnt benefit one of us but Tutu... you will have another birthday next year... Invite him now already. #opinion

      ThaD - 2011-10-06 13:22

      exatly, just what do we benefit from DL coming here or not? just what, somebody tell me?

  • Petite - 2011-10-06 13:20

    eish, Dalai Lama this, Dalai Lama can we please move on to some other news?? hee bathong!

  • ganderson - 2011-10-06 13:41

    The Dalai Lama was refused a visa to SA in 2009 but the Chinese in this case voiced their opposition :- "Dai Bing, ministerial counsellor at the Chinese embassy in Pretoria, confirmed that his government had appealed to the South African government not to allow the Dalai Lama into the country, warning that if it did so, this would harm bilateral relations. Dai said this was a particularly inopportune time for the Dalai Lama to visit the country as it was the 60th anniversary of what Tibetans regard as China's military invasion of Tibet, but which the Chinese government describes as its liberation of Tibetans from feudal serfdom. "

  • Goia - 2011-10-06 13:55

    I suggest South Africans become ethical consumers by boicotting all the Chinese shops that rise up like mushrooms all over. Ask them whether they are registered for VAT and ask for their ID books / work permits / trade licences.

  • LaVie - 2011-10-06 14:10

    Dear Dalai Lama Fly to Zim, walk over the border, no Visa required. See you Friday. Regards Tutu

  • gekko - 2011-10-06 14:14

  • dithala - 2011-10-06 14:22

    Dalai lama's requests to enter South Africa are very controversial, firstly he wanted to visit South Africa when the flame of the Olympics was crossing Africa before the Beijing Olympics,Just to come and paint a negative picture about us and mind you ,it is when the world was criticizing South Africa and doubting our ability to host a successful world cup. Now he want to visit South Africa soon after Kgalema Motlanthe strikes a business deal with the Chinese. Is the holy man trying to impede the South African progress by using his pseudo visits? who is he working with? what is his real motive? if you can answer this questions you will realize that Dalai Lama is in a mission.

      EnglishBoer - 2011-10-06 14:28

      South African progress? Progress? Do you know the meaning of the word?

  • Dalai - 2011-10-06 14:38

    Eishology : the study of what irks south Africans

  • Brainbow - 2011-10-06 14:42

    To put this issue into perspective, ask yourself whether there is any Nobel Peace Prize winner that should be prevented from travelling anywhere in the world?

  • Linki2011 - 2011-10-06 15:10

    crazy..... why is it ok for hundreds of thousands of foreigners to just walk over our borders, without jobs, and of which criminal records are uncertain sometimes, but a tiny old gentleman is not allowed? weird country.... "if visitors posed a potential security risk, if they had criminal associations or if they did not have the means to maintain themselves - it was quite appropriate to refuse them entry"...

  • linda.mthembu - 2011-10-06 15:23

    Why is this Dalai Lama things an issue. if a normal citizen from anywhere in SA wants to fly to the UK it takes him/her about 2 months to get their Visa Approved and of cos, you need to do some interviews before its granted. What makes Dalai Lama think that he can get his in a space of two weeks? he must join the queue like everyone else, another thing is if Tutu wanted him in his Party so bad he would have invited him last in June 2011 and that would have been enough time for the Visa to be approved.

  • Hmmm - 2011-10-06 15:35

    while Mandela was still in power, the Dalai Lama freely entered and left the country. He did not allow the Chinese to bully us. It's really funny that now we are allowing ourselves to be bullied by business partners. We have confirmed to the whole world that China controls us, we are not really in free enteprise with them. This is the darkest day in South Africa after the Apartheid Regime! Now that we have allowed this to happen, China will never again respect us. They wil demand as they wish knowing that the politicians are more interested in money than in the freedom they so feverently speak about. God help us!

  • MsWhyte - 2011-10-06 16:00

    Looks like keeping the Chinese happy is more important than South African's reputation. Like really now, what threat does The Dalai Lama pose to us or the Chinese?