Damning new footage of Marikana shooting

2013-01-28 14:54

Cape Town - A British news channel has broadcast damning footage taken from the police’s perspective of the Marikana shooting that left 34 miners dead.

Channel 4 News said it received cellphone footage taken by two police officers who were present at the 16 August 2012 shooting.

The only footage seen by media has been that taken by EWN, eNCA and CNN.

But the footage taken by the officers shows that most of the miners died a “few hundred metres away” from where the media was, Channel 4 reports.

“The [miners] had fled here after the initial shooting, seeking sanctuary,” the reporter states.

In the police video, an officer is heard shouting “wait, don’t shoot. Don’t shoot him!” after a miner was seen running past police. Seconds later, gunfire rings out.

The officer who had taken the footage then walks over to where a man lies motionless. Another officer is then heard on the video saying: “That motherfucker. I shot him at least 10 times.”

The man was later identified as a 26-year-old miner who was shot 12 times.

The Marikana commission’s secretary Phuti Setati told News24 he was unaware of the cellphone footage and thus cannot comment on it.

  • A previous version of this article incorrectly stated that a statement would be released by Setati.

Watch the video here:

  • justin.frittelli - 2013-01-28 15:07

    Without doubt the lowest moment in the New South Africa!

      truthis.tway - 2013-01-28 15:24

      After the repeated election of the ANC

      george.frangs - 2013-01-28 15:30

      Nailed it truth

      gavin.lott.9 - 2013-01-28 16:29

      I'd like to nail truth.

      michael.moolman.7 - 2013-01-29 06:07

      Have to agree!

      philip.harris.967 - 2013-01-29 14:46

      Justin , comments on this thread in support of the SAPS slaughter of Miners indicate that our "lowest moment" is still to come. It is very interesting and disappointing that the SAPS get very poor ratings in almost EVERY area .........UNTIL they slaughter Black people. It is very sad to have to say that .....but it is very true.

  • tommo.too - 2013-01-28 15:08

    This is just so shocking. I feel almost traumatized reading the text. The video I dont want to see. Terrible indictment against our country.

      philip.harris.967 - 2013-01-29 11:16

      Get a life Kate , I am sick of the years and years of hearing silly , weak and stupid excuses from all sides for South African butchery. Are we ever going to learn? Not while there are people like you around I am afraid.

      sbisschoff - 2013-01-29 11:49

      Kate, it doesn't look like you watched the video at all. I too initially believed the miners were 100% at fault, but after viewing this, the police seemed to enjoy what they were doing far too much. There is something wrong with an institution where a policeman delights in saying "I shot him at least 10 times".

      philip.harris.967 - 2013-01-29 14:55

      @sbisschoff : "There is something wrong with an institution where a policeman delights in saying "I shot him at least 10 times" Yes there is. There is also something very wrong with people who make excuses for Police brutality. Very very wrong.

      stolsie - 2013-01-31 09:37

      Philip, seems like you don't understand the mentality that gets forced onto these policemen, we are a country at war, a war with crime and the civilians are the direct enemy. Some soldiers develop an insensitivity to death and violence from over exposure, so stop being a kiss ass. Realise that the cops must've done the best they were equipped for and all sides are to blame but mostly the businessmen and politicians hiding behind fake smiles and fancy ties. There is hope yet for our country but (as you in your own opinion stated to someone else's post, so will I to yours) you are as big a problem as the bigots and liars.

  • Sxorch - 2013-01-28 15:09

    ENOUGH already, just makes sure it doesnt happen again!!!

      ThinkingChick - 2013-01-28 16:44

      And how do we make sure without getting to the bottom of it?

      dewalds3 - 2013-01-29 07:53

      No, man - you ain't seen nothing yet. It is just starting. Or did you think 'revolution before education' comes without a price tag?

      Cayowin - 2013-01-29 09:35

      No! No more, no more sweeping under the carpet, no more forgiveness and speaking well of the dead. No more waiting 3 years with commissions and inquiries until the abused and laden public forget the old scandal under the weight of new ones. I want the answers, i demand the answers, who exactly ordered what, who show whom and why. What happened in the arms deal? Was Zuma still getting money from Sheik? How much did nkandla cost us? How many woman has Zuma raped? Why do we have 3 submarines that cannot move? Why are we sending aircraft to Zim? Why are we sending money to Swaziland? Why do these amazingly huge scandals drop off the radar so quickly? Why do we give up and let the ANC rape us again and again and again?

      sarah.bouttell - 2013-01-29 10:35

      If I know ANYTHING about human nature, it is that we are doomed to repeat our errors. It seems that the human race is incapable of learning, when it comes to matters like this.

  • cujimmy.okpall - 2013-01-28 15:11

    We just wont the truth, the way miners died. It just seems as usual the state, ie SAP's don't want the truth.

      george.frangs - 2013-01-28 15:30

      truth seems to be like the flu in our government...

  • Rohin - 2013-01-28 15:13

    i don't blame the police at all. if people want to resort to violence to get what they want, they must expect the appropriate response. Unions and politicians keep calling for the labourers to not back down, unless we want total anarchy, then let's tie the hands of the officers behind their backs and wait and see.

      dirk.brink88 - 2013-01-28 16:09

      I agree, I you want trouble then you should encourage these afflicted workers (as the ANC is doing - OF ALL PEOPLE, WHY THE ANC???) If the workers dont want to do the work a farmer is handing out, they go and find you own income or an alternative job! Farmers dont pay a million because they dont have a million to pay - and the job at had probably doesent justify more money - If you want more money then you should be prepared to upgrade yourself before you can demand an upgrade in pay.the same goes for the mines...

      david.luis.9822924 - 2013-01-29 08:25

      Rohin, Like it or not, the law states that one may not shoot a fleeing person. Once that person is fleeing he no longer poses an immediate threat and therefore the use of lethal force is and cannot be justified. The problem is that the SAPS ranks is full of morons who have the same lack of respect for other people and for human life as the miners who were rampaging. If we accept that the SAPS can shoot people AFTER they have stopped the attack (they were running away) then we have worse than anarchy. More so when the cop brags about how many times he shot a person. that shows calculated intent, not a response for being under attack.

      Rohin - 2013-01-29 21:08

      @david = the law states that the strikers may not bear arms - but they do it. the law states that they may not intimate other non striking members - but they do it. as a police officer caught in the middle of a riot, where your colleagues are killed and you are faced with thousands rushing you, shooting at you, and you shoot at someone who's running away, someone who is participating in that riot - even if it's against the law - then I say do it. You know why, because our police have no power in this country - and that is why criminals RUN RIOT in this country. Morally, ethically, yes it's wrong, but like many other south africans, I'm sick and tired of pussy footing around the BAD GUYS. I'm sick and tired of having my life dictated to by a bunch of knuckle heads who refuse to think beyond their noses. Enough.

  • talana.malherbe - 2013-01-28 15:15

    I blame both parties. Yes strike if you have to but do you have to do it with pangas and knopkieries damaging everything in your path and then expect your job back? I blame the SAPS as well because they are not properly trained to handle such situations. Most of all I blame the current caos in this country which our government just sweeps under the carpet and carry on as if they are hugely successful and time and time again blame everything on apartheid!

      Jaap - 2013-01-28 16:20

      Talana, your statement about the Police not being properly trained is really damning to the men in blue's image. I trust that you are suitable qualified to make such a harsh statement. I however agree with the rest of your observation.

      ThinkingChick - 2013-01-28 16:45

      @Jaap. - it seems pretty clear that if they were properly trained there would not be so many dead.

      talana.malherbe - 2013-01-28 18:42

      Jaap agreed it is a harsh statement but I stand by it. I do believe that not all SAPS members are corrupt and brutal but they are not properly trained to deal with this type of violent unrest. You can go to any police station and 50% of the people there are not properly trained in doing what they are supposed to do, not their fault but I would suggest that with the current caos in SA this is going to happen again and again.

      talana.malherbe - 2013-01-28 18:44

      Also Jaap, I do have respect for our guys in blue, the honest ones. It takes not just anybody to put your life on the line like that.

      Jaap - 2013-01-28 20:03

      Thank you Talana, I did not intend to be insulting towards you. The way you put it now makes one think again, it is true what you say in your reply. There are in fact excellent members within the SAPS and I salute them for doing their jobs and looking after us when we can't.

      fragtion - 2013-01-28 22:27

      +1 to what Jaap said....great observation apart from the notion that somehow police could have 'better handled' being ambushed by a stampede mob of armed thugs. Yeah, better handled perhaps if they threw a couple of hand grenades instead

  • colin.shephard.125 - 2013-01-28 15:21

    Its terrible but what makes it worse than all the other people being killed daily? What makes it worse than the people killed by the miners?

  • flysouth - 2013-01-28 15:22

    When a group of men, armed with sharp-edged weapons and a few guns, virtually declares war against police, as did these strikers in the days and hours before the final showdown, this is almost inevitable. To imagine a different outcome is almost impossible, given the undisciplined nature of the SAPS, as shown on all videos as the police open fire in panic and not as a result of an order from officers.

      rodney.bevan.58 - 2013-01-28 15:36

      Don't forget the "special muti" some of them took that was supposed to be bullet proof. Those strikers went there with the intention to provoke the police, only days before those very same thugs had killed 10 people, two of them police officers, what the hell were they expecting the cops to do? Strike as much as you want, get violent and kill people, expect to die. Granted the cops opened fire seemingly without any orders, it's a wonder none of them died as a result of friendly fire. It's what happens when an untrained ill disciplined group are given weapons and authority.

      paul.moulang - 2013-01-29 00:25

      A thought ... at the time that the situation was getting out of hand, the army should have been called in ... larger numbers ... platoon soldiers are controlled by their officers and NCOs ... discipline tighter ... act as a body. Police are trained as individual operators ... panic, and a free-for-all ensues. The 'old way' was to eliminate one or two ring leaders with sharp ammo ... shock! in the crowds ... element of surprise turns the tables. BUT, this same element can enrage the crowd, and the result (may) have been similar. A chance taken, and a chance given. Unfortunately, too late now for Marikana - but next gathering? Rules Of Engagement.

      philip.harris.967 - 2013-01-29 11:23

      Hey rodney say the strikers were there to provoke the Police!! What the hell were the Police even DOING there? In any decent , real country , when strikers were on open land , far from any other people ...the Police would have adopted a position of watching from a distance where there could be NO confrontation. What exactly did the SAPS want to achieve by confronting these strikers and trying to meet fire with fire? If that is what you think the duty of the Police is ......then you are seriously disturbed.

      philip.harris.967 - 2013-01-29 11:25

      @paul.moulong: What exactly was "getting out of hand" ?? A few hundred strikers sitting on a koppie on private land far from any substantial human habitation. Pull the other one are living in a fantasy.

  • matsutle.aphane - 2013-01-28 15:22

    we don't want to promote this violence, but people lets respect our low enforcement agencies, - 2013-01-28 15:43

      I presume that's a typo - low should be law or are you being cynical?

      philip.harris.967 - 2013-01-29 11:59

      How does anyone "respect" the corrupt , the bribe-takers and the murderers?

  • rowan.maulson - 2013-01-28 15:22

    That video doesn't actually show anyone being shot or killed....

      abigail.fourie - 2013-01-28 15:59

      I suppose it will take some more studying, but I have to agree with you. The video doesn't really show anyone getting shot. Also, the story that goes with the video seems more detailed. As if it is the answer to all the questions to what had transpired that day. Again a tinge of media sensationalism.

      eyesears.handsfeet - 2013-01-28 16:27

      Agree with you 100% rowan.

      philip.harris.967 - 2013-01-29 11:26

      No , of course not .....the victim shot himself TWELVE times!

  • ShaunInTheSky - 2013-01-28 15:24

    Funny how they don't show the Al_Jazeera footage where you can clearly see the miners shooting at police.

      george.frangs - 2013-01-28 15:32

      Really?? Where can I see for myself?

      johan.mostert.967 - 2013-01-28 15:35

      @George, if the miners were so innocent, why did they pay a Sangoma to make them 'bullet proof'?

      flysouth - 2013-01-28 15:37

      johan.mostert.967 - 2013-01-28 15:45

      Thanks flysouth, you can clearly see the pistol in the miner's hand.

      dirk.brink88 - 2013-01-28 16:21

      geroge didint look to see if it was in this video, but if its not look for other videos from al_jazeera - you anc distinctly hear 2 shots fires, and see the shooter, right before the cops let loose.

      ThinkingChick - 2013-01-28 16:46

      I think the whole point was to show NEW footage. Everyone has seen the other stuff. This is little kopjie. Where the miners were trying to hide and save their own lives.

      johan.mostert.967 - 2013-01-29 07:33

      "were trying to hide and save their own lives." after they shot at the police....

  • Gideon.Viljoen - 2013-01-28 15:24

    People and police were hacked up, that is un human, you get all kinds of killers but to hack up humans are so without a soul, no guilt, no soul

      ThinkingChick - 2013-01-28 16:47

      Of course, let's assume all the killed and injured miners were guilty, yes? What happened to a fair trial?

      ColinShephard - 2013-01-28 17:36

      Yes unthinkingchick they were storming the police to be first to show their affection by hugging them. The firearms and spears they had were purely imaginary.

      dimitripappas - 2013-01-28 22:20

      'Fair trial' for those panga-wielding marikana s@vages sounds about as reasonable a request as the KZN minister calling for a formal investigation as to why lightning strikes

      philip.harris.967 - 2013-01-29 11:30

      Gideon ....where exactly were Police "hacked up" ?? Let me answer the question because I dont think you atre smart enough to do it yourself. Police were hacked up by persons unknown , in another place at least a day previously. What has that got to do with the Police slaughtering Miners at the Koppie? The answer to that is ZERO....unless having a Black skin makes you guilty and worthy of being slaughtered without proof or evidence of guilt.

      jacques.theron.3304 - 2013-01-29 13:27

      Phillip...when an angry mob comes at you with sharp implements the day after one of your fellow officers was hacked up, I think thats probable cause for thinking the same might happen to you. The crowd was armed, they were bearing down on police, the police retaliated.

      philip.harris.967 - 2013-01-29 14:41

      Klaasvarkie ...firstly it was longer than a day ..and secondly the Police should be TRAINED to ignore the emotion that lay people are affected by. Their TRAINING should ensure that they act within the LAW in such situations. They shouldn't be murdering people just because a comrade of theirs was killed by someone (a few days before) by someone with the same colour skin. Someone who could well have been in Cape Town by then. Secondly .......they should not be confronting the Miners in such a situation. The Miners were on a koppie in the middle of nowhere .......there was no indication that any harm would have come to innocent people.

  • BatRMan959 - 2013-01-28 15:25


      ThinkingChick - 2013-01-28 16:47

      Indeed. Pure and simple.

  • Hobohopkins - 2013-01-28 15:26

    The video is clearly edited... - 2013-01-28 15:42

      how so - I actually thought the copper was crapping out another cop for shooting the guy. I don't trust the media anymore than our politicians, sad to say.

  • NicolaVanAss - 2013-01-28 15:27

    Sad thing was that I was on the police's side for this story... Now I'm unsure. I can handle the self defence... You can see the group running towards the cops in the beginning. But to boast? Not cool bud.

      johan.mostert.967 - 2013-01-28 15:46

      Look at flysouth's video link: Some miners were armed.

  • Eterni80 - 2013-01-28 15:29

    the truth will out

  • linda.songore - 2013-01-28 15:30

    so its not only prince harry that plays xbox reality, even our own saps are huge gamers too

  • johan.mostert.967 - 2013-01-28 15:33

    The cops that took this video is as good as suspended and or even dead.

  • kobus.swart.75 - 2013-01-28 15:38

    What about the people who were murdered by these miners? Nobody talk about them.

      ThinkingChick - 2013-01-28 16:48

      Stop assuming the miners that were massacred were the same ones that killed A WEEK earlier the others.

  • RatemaTJ - 2013-01-28 15:40

    I just wonder if there will ever be closure on this matter. And what consequences will be taken against those found guilty if any?

  • Kwinika Masango Bush - 2013-01-28 15:41

    Aljazeera recorded from an angle in which one of the miners shoot at police while in the mid of many other co-miners -prior to police shootings........

      Thelma Nkosi - 2013-01-28 16:20

      i agree with you!

      ThinkingChick - 2013-01-28 16:49

      ONE miner had a gun. That is all the Al Jazeera footage showed.

      johan.mostert.967 - 2013-01-28 16:56

      @ThinkingChick, if you mess with the bull, be prepared to get the horns. You can not get involved with a violent protest and expect to walk away scratch free.

  • numerofigo - 2013-01-28 15:42

    His even happy that he shot him 10times, ruthless bastards...

      ThinkingChick - 2013-01-28 16:49


  • brett.i.dempster - 2013-01-28 15:44

    Why cant people strike peacefully? The Al- Jazeera video clearly shows the miners fired first.

      Deon - 2013-01-28 16:03

      I agree and striking happen at the end of negotiations not at the beginning.

  • tbmarcussen - 2013-01-28 15:50

    fact of the mater is , violence breeds more violence both sides were wrong for letting it get to that point. surly something could of been done to prevent this massacer. learn from our mistakes and insure a beter future for all

  • johan.harlaar.9 - 2013-01-28 15:52

    This is a very brave cop who released this video, he may die in an accident not long from now.

  • Bob - 2013-01-28 16:04

    Contrary to what this article states, Al Jazeera also shot footage of the incident. In the end though, SAPS probably didn't act completely within the confines of the law but what is legal and what is morally right are often 2 different things. The barbaric miners got what was coming to them as the police did what was only right - put down a few problem dogs. Unfortunately some officers are going to be punished for acting in the best interests of this country's citizens.

      ThinkingChick - 2013-01-28 16:51

      I see, so people are the same as dogs in your opinion? They do not deserve a fair trial? Instead the cops are completely within their rights to act as judge, jury and executioner? Dude, you have no place in the new South Africa.

      ColinShephard - 2013-01-28 17:39

      New south africa, you mean murder and rape capitol of the world? No, law abiding citizens clearly don't belong here.

      Bob - 2013-01-28 18:30

      Oh no not a liberal! Chick, the miners had homicidal tendencies as a dozen or so casualties would prove. You cannot rehabilitate the poor - prison is a free hotel stay for them and say what you want but whoever can stomach slicing up others with machetes is likely to always be a danger to society. Legal proceedings and incarceration all cost more to the tax payer than just exterminating them and being done with it. Problem is that liberals such as yourself and George Bizo whinge uncontrollably whenever criminals meet their fate and next thing we know we're dishing out millions to run a commission of inquiry into the incident. So the real problem here is the slobbering liberal - without them law and order would work far more efficiently and effectively.

  • johan.syffert - 2013-01-28 16:06

    Not to condone the actions of any parties involved but hopefully this will lead to a turning point in a country where honest hard working citizents live in more fear of the police than the criminals they are supposed to be protecting us from. Is there no selection criteria for police recruits anymore? History is busy repeating itself in our fair country and I would even go as far as comparing our police to the gestapo and the KGB. Wake up ANC!

      ThinkingChick - 2013-01-28 16:51

      It would be great if the actually caught criminals. These were a bunch of miners cowering for their lives.

      johan.mostert.967 - 2013-01-28 16:58

      After they shot at the police and murdered 2 police officers and 2 security guards...

      John - 2013-01-28 18:26

      Johan, get ALL the facts you are ignorant and gravely mistaken. Differentiate the incidents and the times!

      johan.mostert.967 - 2013-01-29 07:35

      They shot at the police moments before they got shot, you must get your facts straight. I had a lot of sympathy for the miners, until they murdered people. What goes around, comes around.

  • Deon - 2013-01-28 16:07

    This would never have happened if miners used the right channels to get theire message accross. Violent protesting by workers should never happen with our liberal labour laws.

  • Sakhiwo - 2013-01-28 16:13

    Bring it on,we need more of those evidence

  • rian.dejager.3 - 2013-01-28 16:15

    The biggest problem here is that many South Africans do not have ANY respect for the South African Police Force. What led to this? In my opinion you might as well blame the ANC for appointing morons such as the previous police commissioners. Corrupt... The government has got some serious work to do to shape up the SA Police again. I've seen with my own eyes how disrespectful black young adults are towards them.

      John - 2013-01-28 17:51

      Because they ARE generally corrupt thugs who do not respect the people!

  • mart.botha - 2013-01-28 16:16

    Quite simply....the SAPS are the face and frontline of law and order....obey their commands more especially when a situation such as happened at Marikana prevails. If you feel that they, the SAPS) have exceeded their brief and powers, take them on in a court of law. If you are not prepared to obey the lawful commands of the all means, take up arms and declare war on this country....but be accountable for your unlawful actions.

      John - 2013-01-28 18:16

      Try to prosecute a cop! Watch how they go about DEFEATING the ends of JUSTICE! I dare you to try!

  • kyle.mclaren1 - 2013-01-28 16:26

    This is unfortunate. Marikana should have served as a message to the workers in SA that violent strikes are not acceptable and they will be met with appropriate force but unfortunately it has turned into a witch hunt. Although we all know the police can be corrupt swines, in this situation they were right and they have served their duty protecting the good people in SA. Striking workers should take there anger out on the people who are keeping them down. If they want to act violently then go and tear down the walls of Luthuli House!! Down with the cANCer!

  • omogolo.ditaunyane - 2013-01-28 16:26

    Bloodclat Po-Po!Addi real Criminal mi seh! time will tell.

  • eyesears.handsfeet - 2013-01-28 16:26

    What a load of crack! You can barely hear anything on the video. What are not being mentioned are that most of the miners were under the influence of muti. How did they expect the police to react if they charged like crazed people. Or was this planned by the miners, the sangoma, the unions? One can only wonder.

  • Lucky Ngidi - 2013-01-28 16:42

    mr rian why should we respect these thugs.the so called law enforcers are at the forefront of crime themselves,they are drug dealers themselves,they steal and cut deals with crime bosses.police killings will continue to esculate unless a drastic change in police officers behaivor changes.

  • caine.abel.75 - 2013-01-28 17:00

    Well policeman you guys did ur best but some of you dont belong in the force......

  • spikes.joubert - 2013-01-28 17:09

    Ban all rubber bullets and water canons

  • mccallaghan - 2013-01-28 17:10

    I'm just glad it wasnt 35 people dead...

  • rol.hunter.3 - 2013-01-28 17:13

    @ mark, the point is, murder cannot be left unchallenged, most especially not murders committed by our state - an act by our state is an act committed in our name, by democratic definition. Your comment, basically saying "SAPS, that's how they roll" suggests you're not even offended that this disaster was perpetrated in your name, with your tax rands. People here are upset by your comments because it seems that you're ready to write it off and move on, when I would argue that no right-thinking South African can ignore this story and go on with their day. All of the issues that PLAGUE us are summed up in what happened that week – poverty, inequality, lack of education, crumbling state, resource-grabs, the list goes on. I don’t *really* want you to move to Sydney – I’d much rather you stayed here and helped us all to engage with our problems.

  • danie.gerber2 - 2013-01-28 17:19

    Excellent work! The guilty must be brought to justice!

  • John - 2013-01-28 17:36

    Any law enforcement agency MEMBER that disregards the criminal procedures act and the CONSTITUTION is a criminal. To break the law to enforce the law is criminal.

  • george.pito - 2013-01-28 18:21

    This video showed that they attacked the police out of pure arrogance and stupidity. What followed were however the police reacting to this with no command. The guy that said he shot the mf&&&r did this as pure adrinilin pumping. On trial should be the system that created this. Firstly a government which breed this culture of no respect even to the police, then a police force with Generals aged so young with very little experience. Then 44 people died if the police did nothing how many would have died. If the miners succeeded in this can you imagine the chaos.

  • corlieels.mynhardt - 2013-01-28 18:37

    If only unions won't call out strikes, workers do their jobs and police could concentrate on chasing criminals......nothing would have happened! But the government taught them well as this is exactly how they came to power! The problem is their own doing!

      attie.tredoux - 2013-01-28 22:20

      I agree with you. Unions interfere to protect their own interests. No strikes no relevance

  • attie.tredoux - 2013-01-28 22:07

    what is the difference between Marikana and Sharpville?

  • stephan.butler.14 - 2013-01-29 00:36

    If u don't obey and listen to SAPS comand and threten a police officer the the SAPS has the right to carry out selfdefence. More live amunation should be used on violent strikes.

  • alvino.vanschalkwyk - 2013-01-29 03:19

    One of our worse moments post 1994. Just terrible.

  • marco.degiovanni.583 - 2013-01-29 07:12

    police are not to be trusted under any circumstances ,

  • mario.v.calcagni - 2013-01-29 07:22

    This article seems to follow a very spisific agenda??

  • rams.ramasodi - 2013-01-29 07:43

    But WHY?

  • chabuda - 2013-01-29 08:19

    have we ever thought, what would have happened if the miners where left alone in the bush?