De Klerk slams Zuma, Malema

2011-06-02 09:02

Johannesburg - Former president FW de Klerk believes it is unacceptable to sing "shoot the boer", according to a report published in Beeld newspaper on Thursday.

De Klerk also criticised President Jacob Zuma for failing to rebuke ANC Youth League leader Julius Malema.

"It is unacceptable to sing songs that ask that somebody gets shot," De Klerk said.

Historical context

"The historical context is irrelevant. It will be equally unacceptable if Afrikaners started singing songs from the Anglo Boer war that ask that English people be shot."

De Klerk also spoke about Malema's statements - made in Kimberley ahead of the local government elections - that white people were criminals because they had stolen land.

"It is unacceptable for Malema to call white people criminals.

"It is even more unacceptable for Zuma to sit smilingly on the same stage while Malema, an important ANC official, makes such racist comments.

"Malema's conduct is irreconcilable with the Constitution, which Zuma promised in an oath to protect."

Malema has been hauled before the Equality Court for singing "shoot the boer". Judgment is yet to be handed down.

  • Plonker69 - 2011-06-02 09:21

    Wow De Klerk, welcome to the party. You still in Greece I presume having a lovely peacefull life whilst we are getting murdered back in SA

      ANC-FTL - 2011-06-02 09:47

      Iduno how you think Greece is peaceful.

      Sportsjunky - 2011-06-02 10:12

      @Plonker Read some news buddy

      Lab-Rat - 2011-06-02 10:52

      "Iduno how you think Greece is peaceful." - Compared to here, Greece is a tea party in heaven.

      Chronoman - 2011-06-02 11:05

      What a plonker you are: the guy lives in SA!

      Paralegal - 2011-06-02 11:05

      He is not living in Greece. Where do you get your info? And he is no traitor - he did what he had to do to avert civil war.

      device - 2011-06-02 11:20

      PLONKER69 you really do live up to your stupid name. you say "we are getting murdered in SA" as if De Klerk knows nothing about that. Don't forget that De klerk's ex-wife was brutally murdered some years ago, further more for all his short-comings the man did preside over SA's transition which was probably one of the most violent periods in our history! where were you? and what the hell do you know?

      Investor - 2011-06-02 11:26

      Ok heres the thing... Zuma is so desperate to secure a second term that he he too petrified to step on any toes ahead of 2012, eben though he knows that certain things are wrongful and hurtful and damaging the greater interests. There is definatly a problem with the internal ANC election process when the president is too s^#t scared to step on anybody's toes for fear of losing a second term, and so nothing changes or improves in the 5 year period and officials that dont deliverr are protected as long as they promise that support for a second term.

      Gomkop - 2011-06-02 11:27

      @ Eric West... idiot, you are definately not the sharpest tool in the shed. My parents tought me to keep my trap shut if I don't know what I'm taking about. Your's obviously taught you nothing.

      lean - 2011-06-02 11:31

      Only now the conscience is haunting him down. TOO LATE TO TURN BACK NOW Mr. De Klerk

      Juliaas - 2011-06-02 11:35

      @Paralegal Shouldn't it be Mamparra. What do toy think is going on in SA today. Thousands are killed. This is genocide.

      Bacon - 2011-06-02 11:47

      @ Eric West Are you an idiot?! You do realise that the majority of white people wanted reform in South Africa? Hell even that simpleton Steve Hofmeyr admits to voting yets in the 1992 Referendum.

      Bacon - 2011-06-02 11:48

      ...sorry, yes.

      Daemos1 - 2011-06-02 12:18

      all the corner shops keep people out of trouble

      Grazy - 2011-06-02 12:22

      @ Device. Rather ask the question WHY Marike was murdered and by whom. Also ask what happen to the book she was busy writing and why THAT dissapear. Wake up!!. Gorbatchof(Spell??) at lesd left a chance for the different etnick groups to have their own piece of land and self rule. De Klerk left his own people with NOTHING, and no hope. He is the most arrogant selfcentered cowardly traitor this land ever knew.

      John Wilderness - 2011-06-02 13:27

      @ThreeLions. Okay nice story. Now get your yourself a decent history book and have a good look at reality so that you can stop embarrassing yourself with all this BS you post.

      Keabua1 - 2011-06-02 14:24

      @Threelions 3380: Intersting point you raised there. From the little you wrote there it seems like you are one of the many white people who think black people haven't invented anything (I would suggest you use google), here is a website you should have a squiz through: . for black people using "witch doctors" and "Muti", I would like to shed some light on this issue for you. Africans used TRADITIONAL HEALERS and those HEALERS used HERBS AND ROOTS as medicine (which is what the word MUTI means). Today, herbs and roots are now being called "natural remedies"(which black people had been using centuries ago).If the europeans did not come to Africa, black people would not have needed Europeans to stand up for them against Apartheid. Your statement about rich land being rich merely because of the people who worked the land is not really accurate. Black people were chased from good land which was green or had minerals and dumped on derilict land.. the "education" which white people provided (Bantu education) in my view was not education at all.. it was mental slavery. Looking at all the European and Asian countries that stood up against dictators.. you will see that especially in asia.. there were no europeans trying to get their hands on their minerals.. Africa is a mess because of colonisation. If colonisation had not come to Africa, I believe that we would not be using this farce of an economic system.

  • Wildebeest - 2011-06-02 09:21

    De Klerk for president

      NickG - 2011-06-02 09:52

      Been there done that.

      iMcJaz - 2011-06-02 10:08

      hahahahahaha! yes please Amandla! Awethu! =D

      Sportsjunky - 2011-06-02 10:12

      I would vote for him, considering there is not much else to vote for out there

      Rao - 2011-06-02 10:22

      @Wizard101 you're a dam stupid idiot. Go hang yourself.

      gedeza - 2011-06-02 10:26

      @ Wizard if Mandela had not been realesed from jail, if De Klerk had not done what we did for this country it would hv been like Zimbabwe, the country was getting sanctions everywhere, if you say Mandela should have stayed to jail you are entertaining racicism which de klerk is crying about on Malema. This country has come a long way, blacks have been discriminated but we hv gn passed that so we can not have leaders who keep on reminding us of that we are a rainbow nation now.

      Pencilgraffiti - 2011-06-02 10:29

      Jeesh Wizard... Read a book lately? If Mandela stayed in jail a few months longer you would prob be dead right now, this country would be at war and we would just be another African story. De Klerk did the right thing, Mandela had the perfect dream for this country and we should ALL be extremely thankful to him. I also thank de Klerk for his latest statements.. Zuma needs to grow up and realise what responsibility means. ANY racial or hate slur should be abolished, especially during election campaigns.

      radarblip - 2011-06-02 11:20

      @gedeza; if you think that zim is where it is because of sanctions you are severely misguided. the sanctions against Ian Smith's administration boosted the country's local manufacturing, the sanctions against bob are simply travel bans against him and his cronies - they have no effect on zim's economy. Zim is where it is because of land seizures by uncle bob, not because of sanctions.

      Krush - 2011-06-02 11:33

      @GEDEZA, the country already had sanctions against it because of apartheid. And we did just fine...

      Snoek - 2011-06-02 13:05

      @GEDEZA and others, South Africa had the 10th strongest economy in the world in 1991. We had the world 3rd strongest army. Our education system was ranked amongst the top 5 in the world. We developed our own nuclear power facilities and weapons. All this with full sanctions? I'm not convinced that an untrained army could have overthrown the old South African government. FW’s propaganda made him a very rich man and South African a crime invested country.

      VELOCITY - 2011-06-02 13:33

      @snoek, I agree that the then SANDF was invincible to anything on the African continent at the time, but turning a force like that inward onto itself, fighting a civil war is a whole different story. I for one don't have the stomach to fight inside my own country against my own people. Like him or despise him, FW averted a civil war in SA. Would the whites have won such a war? Who can tell, it would probably still be carrying on today. The SA we know today has many problems, but I prefer it over the SA that would have been if a race war broke out. I thank FW for that.

      Phlegm - 2011-06-02 14:05

      @Snoek, perhaps your percentages are correct, but either which way the economy primarily benefited the white minority, the school system was targeted at educating the white children, don't tell me that pre '94 black South Africans were enjoying the benefits of the worlds 5th best education system! And as for the defense force what is your point? We are not at war, why should we have a large defense budget? Why does the SANDF need to be so strong? I do not support the ANC, I think they are a crap ruling party, sure they lie, they steal etc, but don't bluff yourself not every South African was having a better life in 1991!

      Snoek - 2011-06-02 14:27

      Velocity and Pilgrim, I agree fully with you. What I'm trying to say is that a gradual handover of power should have been negotiated. We had the power to negotiate a power sharing government at least. How else would the existing government learn? The negotiations left us with what we see today; the world’s 23rd strongest economy. FW's favourite saying: "It's not what we negotiated at CODESA". What did he expect?

  • TK - 2011-06-02 09:23

    I have so much respect for you, maybe they will listen when a nobel peace price winner speaks.Tata Madiba should also come out of retirement and say something.Our leaders are diving the nation. Maybe we should stop calling it a rainbow nation anymore,since not all colors are together.

      Wizard101 - 2011-06-02 09:56

      Some sence

  • Beam me up - 2011-06-02 09:23

    Very, Very late to comment now, were where you 6 months ago?

  • Liesel - 2011-06-02 09:24

    Wise words from a wise man. He did what was right for our country at the time, but our current leaders need to do what is right for the future of our country, now...

      Marcell - 2011-06-02 12:27

      He just delayed the inevitable.

  • Mnr. Smith - 2011-06-02 09:25

    " South Africa is the only country in the world where affirmative action is in the favour of the majority who has complete political control. The fact that the political majority requires affirmative action to protect them against a 9% minority group is testament to a complete failure on their part to build their own wealth making structures, such that their only solution is to take it from others." London Times

      Spoofed - 2011-06-02 09:32

      Wow do i feel embarrassed to be a south African after reading that... =/

      graham.carruthers - 2011-06-02 09:37

      Which edition of the Times was it? I keep seeing this popping up, but no-one seems to know when it was written!

      Maleo - 2011-06-02 09:41

      How very true!

      Carl Muller - 2011-06-02 09:46

      After 1948 the Nats pushed the English out and did their own thing.

      Flinger - 2011-06-02 09:51

      Fantastic, bout time the world is told about the currently advantaged and how undeserving they are of anything whatsoever. can you please post the link.

      Psychotron - 2011-06-02 09:57

      The only country I know of where the majority still likes to feel oppressed by the minority who does not rule.

      As-it-is - 2011-06-02 09:58

      Please come with original statements and stop copying & pasting from chain emails. The 9% majority still hold 80% of the money as well as most of the top jobs. And where do Britain get off splashing such a statement when all the profits from their MNE's SA comapnies get syphoned off to their own country? Yes maybe the AA process needs to be looked at and obviously BEE is not working... The article is about De Klerk's view on Malema & Zuma

      GinSA1 - 2011-06-02 10:04

      google it graham and notice that nowhere will you find it in the London Times. Many other publications, but not that one. Unless some people ONLY are able to find it

      ANC-FTL - 2011-06-02 10:06

      Sad very sad - they have to rely on the success of others... they dont want to put in the hard work, and they say we steal - hypocrites.

      Bill - 2011-06-02 10:11

      Spot on, Sir!

      tdk25 - 2011-06-02 10:12

      This could also be put in another way: "South Africa was the only country in the world where for decades 70% of the population were massacred by 10% minority group, the latter who put policies in place to have complete control of wealth making structures" Just because some clueless reporter from the London Times writes in perfect sounding words doesn't necessarily mean its the truth.

      iMcJaz - 2011-06-02 10:16

      Daaaaaaaaaaam thats scary

      Alqualonde - 2011-06-02 10:29

      Mnr Smith, you obviously ignore the affirmative action practiced by the Nats from 1948 where they replaced each English speaking civil servant with 2 or 3 white Afrikaans speaking ones. Or when Anglo American gave General Mining to white Afrikaans business to improve the share of the economy (in 1961) or Barend du Plessis' comment as NP Minister of Finance in the 1980's that the white Afrikaner was being subsidised by the English taxpayer. And 1980 was 32 years after the white Afrikaner Nationalists had taken control. We need improved sharing of the economy, just not criminal behaviour as practised by the Afrikaner Nationalists before 1994 and the African Nationalists after 1994.

      Mnr. Smith - 2011-06-02 10:41

      @tdk25 massacred?? where, when? most blacks that were killed in apartheid were killed by their own comrades in townships, remember the Necklacing murders that today's ANC conveniently swept under the carpet? or the bombs? Please tell me where the old goverment massacred civilians? Stop talking nonsense through your sphincter!

      just4laughs - 2011-06-02 10:48

      Check your facts. Malaysia has a similar policy.

      mike - 2011-06-02 10:49

      70% massacred by10% ? oh , I forgot you didnt have an education

      cj.venter - 2011-06-02 10:50 sound familiar?

      whatashame - 2011-06-02 11:02

      @tdk25. Where were you during apartheid. Massacres did not happen on the grand scale as you are led to believe. More people were massacred by our own people than security police ever did. Read up on ANC detention camps and tell me if those were massacres in comparison. What happened in Natal ANC/IFP and tell me if those were massacres. We die at the hands of our own brothers.

      Lab-Rat - 2011-06-02 11:03

      Alqualonde - 2 wrongs don't make a right, does it?

  • Plonker69 - 2011-06-02 09:26

    You ran away like a coward de Klerk now we are facing the music

  • Papsak - 2011-06-02 09:26

    Selling the country to who? You are deurmekaar.

      Leviathan - 2011-06-02 09:53

      last time i checked when u sell something u get some money for it, dont u? i agree wit u Papsak who the hell did he sell SA to?

  • Mike - 2011-06-02 09:26

    "Malema's conduct is irreconcilable with the Constitution, which Zuma promised in an oath to protect." So could Zuma be taken to the Constitutional Court or wherever for breach of oath?

      Spoofed - 2011-06-02 09:33

      He probably could but nothing would come if it...

      RITEsaidFRED - 2011-06-02 09:41

      @Mike, that's my question exactly. The fact that Zuma swore an oath to protect the constitution, then sits on a stage smiling while Malema basically rips the constitution to shreds, doesn't that show his approval for what Malema is doing. In fact, when someone is in breach of contract, that contract is made null and void, and the party guilty of breach suffers punishment. Shouldn't the breach of oath to protect the constitution be seen in a much, much more serious light? Unfortunately, Zuma already raped lady justice when he bypassed the system on his corruption and rape charges, what's to stop him from raping the constitution as well?

      Jacques Jones - 2011-06-02 09:41

      the problem is he'll wangle out of it.

      Benny66 - 2011-06-02 09:55

      What is the difference between Malema's "Shoot the Boer" and Zuma's "bring me my machine gun" song? They should BOTH be hauled before court for inciting violence!!

      Psychotron - 2011-06-02 09:56

      There is a lot Zuma has to answer for.

      Wizard101 - 2011-06-02 10:08

      Well he got away with the rape,and he will getting away again this just now raping the country!!!!!

      angie - 2011-06-02 10:47

      @rightsaidfred. They do not care about anybody exept themselves. Zuma is scared of Malema and his 50 million illiterate followers that mean absolutely nothing. They can not contribute anything worthwhile to the country, they can only contribute to the crime rate and put their x next to the ANC!!!

      Albo - 2011-06-02 11:28

      I`m sure it was "taken out of context".

      Goofster - 2011-06-02 14:20

      I don't think the president has ever bothered looking at, let alone reading, the constitution. It apparently interferes with his extramarital activity time.

  • Spoofed - 2011-06-02 09:27

    You are not the first one to point this out Mr FW De klerk... What makes you think something will ever come of it? The ANC does not care...

      GinSA1 - 2011-06-02 10:05

      I always heard you should never trust a Moslem Maleo - not that it's true

  • Anonymous Thinker - 2011-06-02 09:27

    De Klerk makes a good point! I'm sure Malema's response will be some incompitent racial slur.

      Maleo - 2011-06-02 09:47

      You can be sure their will be NO response from this blockhead...

  • Kpt_Keyboard - 2011-06-02 09:28

    What does this story help, its not like the anc and there supporters r going to develop brains overnight!

      GinSA1 - 2011-06-02 10:06

      Or that they can read kpt keyboard...........

  • Santapola - 2011-06-02 09:29

    Who is this FW de Klerk by the way? is he not the same person who was the president during apartheid era? is he not the same person who was watching our people killed? Hey bro, just leave our president in peace please.

      TreeFarmer - 2011-06-02 09:44

      He is also the man that got Madiba out of Jail (even if it was under pressure, he had the balls to do it)...think a bit before typing dumb comments. JZ and Malema are a bit of a joke anyway

      WoodworkPh.D - 2011-06-02 09:53

      FW De Klerk did the right thing at the right time. By your statement you pee in your own drinking water bru

      mbossenger - 2011-06-02 09:54

      Is he not the person who realised that apartheid was not sustainable and sought to implement change?

      Amanzimtoti - 2011-06-02 10:03

      Typical... why don't you read a book and find out who FW de Klerk is... It was actually his predecessors (this word means the people before him, you might call them his ancestors or shades) who did that majority of the killing. He was the white president who helped end apartheid...

      Tea party - 2011-06-02 10:24

      @santapola it was blacks killing black during his tenure. He took the initiatives necessary to end apartheid e.g he lifted the ban on the ANC, he released Nelson Mandela and he invited the ANC to the negotiating table. He played a very important role in bringing about the freedom you enjoy today.

      Alqualonde - 2011-06-02 10:34

      @ Psychotron: Are you able to name 1 person that died between the time Mandela decided that armed struggle was necessary and the time he was jailed? Or are you just spouting drivel while drooling? How many people died or where injured when the Nats were blowing up Wimpy's to make white think the ANC was a terrorist organisation?

      Shistirrer - 2011-06-02 11:47

      @Psychotron: You are way out of line, bru. Mandela NEVER killed anyone. At the time of the Rivonia Trial he was already serving a 5-year sentence on charges of inciting workers to strike and leaving the country illegally. The charges for the Rivonia Trial were: * recruiting persons for training in the preparation and use of explosives and in guerrilla warfare for the purpose of violent revolution and committing acts of sabotage * conspiring to commit the aforementioned acts and to aid foreign military units when they invaded the Republic, * acting in these ways to further the objects of communism * soliciting and receiving money for these purposes from sympathizers in Algeria, Ethiopia, Liberia, Nigeria, Tunisia, and elsewhere. Where do you see any murder by Mandela in any of those charges? Conspiring, true, but they never got to actually committing the acts.

  • Slingervel - 2011-06-02 09:30

    It looks like De Klerk has woken up from his hibernation!What he says is nothing new!

  • sardonicus - 2011-06-02 09:30

    What took you so long FW? in any event your words will mean nothing, i say, nothing to them.

  • Soothsayer - 2011-06-02 09:31

    According to the Sowetan yesterday,Dirk Uys : "...she likened the ANC to the old National Party which allowed Eugene Terre'Blanche to say whatever he wanted, much the same way in which the ANC is allowing Malema to get away with what he says."Double Standards, isn't? Spot a difference. It is the same difference.

      Amanzimtoti - 2011-06-02 10:04

      yes, and in ancient greece if you had a headache they would ofetn bore open your skull to let the evil spirit out... Just because something was alright in the past doesn't mean it's alright today

      Jerry - 2011-06-02 10:13

      So what did ET said Soothsayer? Give us the line where he said "shoot the black-people"

      dr - 2011-06-02 10:25

      I also use 2 hate Terre'Blanche they way some people hate Malema , reason was that those of De Klerk, he was always getting away with a murder call black a k word for no apparent reason just bcause of color. I c no different between the 2, I cannot spot any different believe u me they are exactly the same, including the so called Stevie boy.

      Shistirrer - 2011-06-02 11:50

      @dr: Can you please come back and re-post when you are sober/lucid/off whatever you are on. You are talking Klingon and I have NO idea what you are trying to say!

      Gandalf - 2011-06-02 13:43

      @ Jerry. ET didn't just incite violence against the blacks, he committed it. I take it you forgot the jail sentence he served for pretty much almost beating that guy to death?

  • CB57 - 2011-06-02 09:31

    What is happening to journalism these days and the use of the word "slam"? Almost everyday one sees the word in a headline; the loose translation is to criticise harshly or censure forcefully - I would hardly list de Klerk's comments under "slam" but that's just me. Also de Klerk speaking out so late in the day smacks of opportunism and needing some free PR to remain relevant. Ok now before I get branded anti something or other for having an opinion, I agree with his sentiments.

      KomboKitten - 2011-06-02 11:08

      'slamming' or 'condemning' something means NOTHING!!! DOING SOMETHING MEANS SOMETHING

  • Machismo - 2011-06-02 09:32

    De Klerk is trying to score some political points. Not here!

      Psychotron - 2011-06-02 09:53

      So does the NP still exist?

      GS - 2011-06-02 10:32

      Psyco - they joined the ANC if I remember correctly. Took their book of tricks with them which is quite evident in a lot of the ANC's new policies.

      KomboKitten - 2011-06-02 11:08

      LOL stupid

  • Lionel - 2011-06-02 09:33

    Strange that Malema doesn't make homophobic statements.

      Realistiqly - 2011-06-02 12:32

      The word homophobic does not exist in their language... The same as mephrodite.

      Goofster - 2011-06-02 14:26

      @Realistiqly. I don't think that the word mephrodite exists in the english language either.

  • cromagnon - 2011-06-02 09:34

    Ending apartheid was the best thing he could have done, it is a pity that Malema does not have the capacity to see De Klerks role in ending apartheid. It is also a pity that people like Malema get's chosen as leaders. Hence, the country will go down the drain if you look at Africa's tendency to elect leaders.

      paulf - 2011-06-02 09:45

      Unfortunately they select leaders with no or very little education. The more militant they are the better it seems to me.

      thickness - 2011-06-02 11:22

      @PAULF and millitancy is not relevant in today's government, we need to work towards building stronger ties between South Africans not antagonizing each other with racist songs.

  • Kevin - 2011-06-02 09:37


      boychina - 2011-06-02 09:48

      agreed. if Malema was silenced then all stand up comedians would lose their material! Jobs are on the line here...

      sefeddt - 2011-06-02 09:49

      Problem witn that is while it's humerous to watch Malema's rantings, he is reducings SA's current profile seen as OK to the rest of the world to that of another basket case African country.

      Wizard101 - 2011-06-02 10:12

      Call on the gester

      iMcJaz - 2011-06-02 10:27

      Trevor Noah needs them...

  • Smaal - 2011-06-02 09:38

    There is hope! I wish more whites could get cured from this liberal sickness that so many of us are suffering from.

      Cacophony82 - 2011-06-02 11:17

      @Smaal - So hate is the way to go? Hate will always, always, always create more hate. The same goes for Love. That's why I choose to be liberal. If you want to be eaten up by the hate you foster for others and live with a caged heart, you go right ahead. I will keep being liberally sick as you so eloquently put it. People should be judged on their acts and omissions not the color of their skin, their religion, sex, orientation, whatever. There are many individuals from every race who deserve the hate they get in return for the hate they give out. You shall reap what you sow and if that is animosity how could you ever expect anything else in return?

  • JJRR - 2011-06-02 09:40

    Hoe lank het dit JOU gevat op te praat teen plaas moorde, boere moorde soos ons dit noem!!! Dit grief my om SO te praat van so n senior persoon uit die ou regering, voel dat my pa enige oomblik my gaan reghelp, RESPEK soos hy soos hy sou se, MAAR in JOU geval sal ek maar die pak vat!!!!

      Realistiqly - 2011-06-02 12:35

      Wis isss a English forum keep wif de raait taal.

  • ratex - 2011-06-02 09:40

    I have posted this before, but it is still prevalent today: Stated way back in 1931 and it says it all... "You cannot legislate the poor into freedom by legislating the wealthy out of freedom. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friend, is about the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it." ~~~~ Dr. Adrian Rogers, 1931

      Yala - 2011-06-02 13:14

      Truer words have never been spoken.

  • Babylove0108 - 2011-06-02 09:41

    Zuma & Malema have lost what the ANC stood for when Madiba was in Presidency!!! Both Zuma & Malema don't deserve the attention they get and Zuma does not deserve to be president! What promises has the ANC actually full filled??? NONE!!! Zuma & Malema are both jokes!!!

      iMcJaz - 2011-06-02 10:30

      they just chilling smiling after a successful election.

  • Jacques Jones - 2011-06-02 09:42

    although i agree with his statement it is a bit late for it now we could have used it in the court room.

  • Ederik - 2011-06-02 09:44

    Yes FW, you were the one giving SA to them on a silver plate after we voted yes for negotiations!

  • george - 2011-06-02 09:45

    The Natives' Land Act of 1913 was the first major piece of segregation legislation passed by the Union Parliament, and remained a cornerstone of Apartheid until the 1990s when it was replaced by the current policy of land restitution. The act decreed that only certain areas of the country could be owned by natives. These areas totalled only 7% of the entire land mass of the Union. Impact of the Act created a system of land tenure that deprived the majority of South Africa's inhabitants of the right to own land which had major socio-economic repercussions. Had the Supreme Court not rendered the Acts application void for a few years it also would have disenfranchised all "natives" in the Cape Colony. For forty years the apartheid laws were to be followed. Millions of hectares of Natives land which the natives had occupied before Europeans set foot in SA were expropriated without compensation by the Government. The land which was forcefully taken away from the natives was given to Europeans free of charge in order to stimulate agricultural produce for the mines. Natives were forced to seek employment in the farms and the mines as there was a labour shortage. The economic, social and political devastation caused by such acts still ring today. In 1914 the (SANC) later ANC, challenged such draconian laws without any success, resulting in the defiance campaign later led by Nelson Mandela. To this day, such lands have never been returned to the natives by the Europeans.

      Born To Fish - 2011-06-02 09:53

      Eish ja, Land that was never occupied now suddenly has vast number of people on it in your misconstrued history

      Cire - 2011-06-02 10:07

      @ George. Long before 1910, or even before 1651, the whole of Southern Africa was occupied by the San and Khoi people for many thousands of years. Natives (as you call them) migrating from East and Central Africa colonized virtually all of this land and the indigenous inhabitants were forced into the high mountains and deserts - which the natives did not want - as their last refuge. To this day, not one sqaure inch of the land stolen has been returned to the San by the Europeans. In fact, the natives in Botswana are currently driving the San from their last refuge in the Kalahari.

      Cire - 2011-06-02 10:08

      I meant to add - 'not one square inch ... has been returned to the San by the Europeans or by the natives.

      george - 2011-06-02 10:25

      Cire, you knowledge of history is plain wrong. Even your the apartheid history books confirm that San and Khoi traded with the Bantu speaking people long before 1651. Anyway who said that Khoi and San are not African black people. Why are dark Portuguese and Italians referred to to as White Europeans when Germans and English ( Northern Europeans) are more closer to such a title? Why try and come with divisive titles for black Africans when you have uniform classification for all Europeans irrespective of colour. That is Hitler's mentality. Apartheid history books do confirm that the bantu speaking people ( Zulu, Xhosa, Sotho) have occupied this southern part of Africa for thousands of years. Khoi and the San are also black africans. The same as white blond Germans and Dark Italians are white Europeans.

      mike - 2011-06-02 10:55

      I am curious in which history books you obtain this information - titles please

      Realistiqly - 2011-06-02 12:39

      By George, and let me remind you that THIS legislation you are referring to was implemented by the BRITISH COLONIALISTS. The Afrikaans speaking government only took over when SA became a Republic on 31 May 1961. So on whose legacy is apartheid built? Dit the Afrikaans speaking "boere" make it up in 1961? Why do blacks blame everything on the Afrikaner, when both Black and Afrikaner fought against the English or is that all forgotten history?

      MBruno - 2011-06-02 13:44

      @George: the story you cut and pasted above from the Web is actually strikingly similar to what the Europeans did to the native Americans in the United States or to the Aborigines in Australia. The difference is that, in North America and Australia, the number of European settlers was big enough to effectively overrun and displace (if not plainly exterminate) the much smaller native population. In South Africa, on the other hand, even at its peak (by the time when the Union was set up), the white population never climbed much above 20 % of the national population. Of course, the white Americans for example never returned the land they took from the natives.

      MBruno - 2011-06-02 13:56

      @George: just to continue, in hindsight, the best "strategy" for the white Europeans in South Africa should have been to encourage miscegenation and integration, with equal civil and political rights for all "natives" who were assimilated into the western culture, irrespective of race. Unfortunately, that point of view, which roughly corresponded to the Cape colony model, was abandoned post-Union in favour of the Boer view of "separate development" and "no equality in Church and State". That eventually led to apartheid and the problems and social tensions we still see in South Africa today (Malema, etc.), spreading fear and apprehension among the white minority.

      george - 2011-06-02 14:14

      MBruno. Thanks for engaging constructively on historical facts as opposed to some bloggers who try to deny the same facts. I have always wondered where SA would be today had "civilised" africans been co-opted into the system years back and create a proper black middle class. Instead the boers were primitive in their greed. They tried to chew more than they could swallow. They alienated all the black population. They introduced Bantu education, apartheid and murderous squads as headed by the CCB and the like of Eugene De Kock. The current premedidated black poverty, land dispossesion, crime etc would not have happened had some enlightened progressive forward looking power had taken over and ran the country long time back. Instead, the boers went on a murderous killing sprees and nazi orientated agendas resulting in the ANC overwhelming support even when it fails to deliver. The boers taught SA to look at life in purely racial forms hence the current mess.

      Realistiqly - 2011-06-02 14:24

      I agree with MBruno, what is Australia and where is there Abirigonees(spelling) New Zealand and their Mauri's and America's own Indians that were exterminated like ants. If the Brits encountered a Virgin Africa, the same could have waited for the indiginous blacks of this country. They did not expect to find a war, which I may add was fought the Afrikaner Boere together with the blacks of this country, we sacrificed women and children by the 1000's in concentration camps. The real History also shows the same lot for black women and children. Who was the real villains here? Why don't South Africans get educated and learn the real History of SA and not just the apartheid brainwashing that they are fed in school.

      Threelions 3380 - 2011-06-02 14:25

      @GEORGE You say 7% so the rest was European owned... how big is the desert? why did Europeans take the desert? nation defence?, why the segregation? Maybe because all the conflicts that were “unofficially” going on with Afrikaners, Brits, Zim’s, Xhosa’s, Zulu’s, along with many others tribes… Should we Just have gone into all the tribes broken down all of the culture and said our way is the only way???. Instead lets Segregate pump money into the Homelands that were already established tribal areas and let the tribes build their own Infrastructure and Economy but thank the ANC for using that money for war instead. We will never agree we all know this so unless we all move on and put the past behind us like what Europe did with Germany and realise that we need equal stability for our future children to build towards peace and a strong nation for the future we are only going to destroy ourselves by Supporting people like Malema and Eugene as we should know better and stand by Madiba’s words of wisdom and stop what harms each other. It’s called Understanding and compromise… Something I haven’t seen in ANY African leader except Mandela.

  • mphozania - 2011-06-02 09:45

    I choose to stop singing the song now that a great man has spoken. At least he is not too much of a racist like most of the commentators here.

      Psychotron - 2011-06-02 09:51

      He is not too much of a racist like Mandela is not either.

  • Ederik - 2011-06-02 09:45

    If Juliaaass want to sing his song, we will sing "Bobbejaan klim die berg......"

      Cire - 2011-06-02 10:09

      Wow, that's so clever! Do you get these inspirations often?

      BRONZE - 2011-06-02 10:28

      Go ahead and sing it boet if it will make you feel better. Stand right there at the top of the union buildings and sing at the top of your lungs. Or maybe ask ou' Stevie to add it in his next album. I honestly don't understand why people put so much value in songs sung by a few stupid people to get a reaction. Quite frankly this bobbejaan doesn't give a damn. So sing along my baas and get it out your system.

      penada - 2011-06-02 14:15

      @ cire lol luv de sarcasm

  • Catherine - 2011-06-02 09:45

    Malema is a racist bastard who hides behind the skirts of the ANC. Someone I know recently had him and his cronies attend a function at a private venue and he is blatantly antagonistic and racist to anyone white. He's also a condescending and ignorant pig - the stuff he was staying to the white staff, the women in particular, was appaling. Someone should get rid of this embarrasment..

      Psychotron - 2011-06-02 09:52

      Malema is like a schoolyard bully, he is only got power when his buddies show up with machine guns.

      dr - 2011-06-02 10:27

      @ Catherine pls differentiate between the 2. According to the Sowetan yesterday,Dirk Uys : "...she likened the ANC to the old National Party which allowed Eugene Terre'Blanche to say whatever he wanted, much the same way in which the ANC is allowing Malema to get away with what he says."Double Standards, isn't? Spot a difference. It is the same difference.

      Realistiqly - 2011-06-02 12:43

      DR. We are still waiting for quotes from Eugene Tereblanche as proof of your statement.

  • Slapper - 2011-06-02 09:48

    A pity someone with more credibility wont criticize them.

      Bill - 2011-06-02 10:24


  • Born To Fish - 2011-06-02 09:49

    Flat wheel, Sharrup rather and go and retire with your millions!

  • Currie_Mafia - 2011-06-02 09:50

    Zuma never complete his primary school education but, hey, he's got 5 wives, 2 girlfriends, 20 children, umpteen grandchildren..He's a True African leader who will get us all into heaven...away from this hell.

  • Don - 2011-06-02 09:56

    Firstly it either proves that our President Zuma is a yellow belly with no backbone or alternatively allowing racial division which in turn ensures the masses to continue voting ANC. Its my belief its a combination.

  • Realbok - 2011-06-02 09:56

    Sorry to Zooomer boy, you did the same to Patricia!! You are a serial Oath breaka!! Met Eish!!!

      GinSA1 - 2011-06-02 10:11

      the old fool also broke his oath to be true to his now deceased ex-wife. that too is a contract. glass houses and stones...............

  • claudevn - 2011-06-02 09:58

    Mooi gese Mr de Klerk. I appreciate at least one political figure stating the detriment caused by songs that may and will cause devide within the country... NO form of hate speach should be publically endorsed, especially by our President. Mr ZUMA. YOU are OUR president... EACH AND EVERY SOUTH AFRICAN'S LEADER... AND IT IS YOUR CONSTITUTIONAL OBLIGATION TO PROTECT EACH AND EVERY CITIZEN OF YOUR COUNTRY... Remember, OMISSION is worse than NEGLEGENCE... AND OMITTING TO STEP IN WHEN REQUIRED TO DO SO, WHEN KNOWING IT SHOULD RIGHFULLY BE DONE, WILL RESULT IN A MUCH GREATER DETRIMENT TO OUR DEMOCRACY... AND ALL THE PEOPLE RESIDING IN IT...

      KomboKitten - 2011-06-02 11:13

      zuma is not my leader. i dont follow racist rapists. he is not leading anything but corruption.

  • WoodworkPh.D - 2011-06-02 09:58

    Well Said FW. Now please use the structure to Zuma you have access to and have a sarias talk with him plz.

  • BBella - 2011-06-02 10:00

    No, what de Klerk should have done was to negotiate a coalition government to begin with. You can't become a doctor without studying for a medical degree first, right? So how did he expect people who never had to run a country nor govern themselves to then govern a country? The USA only had the first black president 52 years after the end of their apartheid, now please, don't get me wrong, I'm not saying we should have waited 52 years, but definitely a coalition government for at least the first 5-10 years. I've traveled quite extensively and we are such a joke to other countries, for goodness sake, our current president didn't even finish primary school, how is he suppose to know how to run a country? De Klerk has got a lot of blood on his hands and he did say that he doesn't care that we blame him, but what's done is done, he must now butt out of South African politics, and let us ALL TOGETHER try and find a solution for the country and finally put all this hatred behind us. We might be of different colour, but we carry only one

  • BBella - 2011-06-02 10:01

    No, what de Klerk should have done was to negotiate a coalition government to begin with. You can't become a doctor without studying for a medical degree first, right? So how did he expect people who never had to run a country nor govern themselves to then govern a country? The USA only had the first black president 52 years after the end of their apartheid, now please, don't get me wrong, I'm not saying we should have waited 52 years, but definitely a coalition government for at least the first 5-10 years. I've traveled quite extensively and we are such a joke to other countries, for goodness sake, our current president didn't even finish primary school, how is he suppose to know how to run a country? De Klerk has got a lot of blood on his hands and he did say that he doesn't care that we blame him, but what's done is done, he must now butt out of South African politics, and let us ALL TOGETHER try and find a solution for the country and finally put all this hatred behind us. We might be of different colour, but we carry only one

      whatashame - 2011-06-02 11:09

      @BBella. FW did stay in government working with Mandela as deputy president

  • Leviathan - 2011-06-02 10:02

    malema is a little whining baby tat has the inability 2 shut up. Every part that had something 2 do wit the struggle no matter how violent or racist it may be is considered ok. But no matter what or who says anything about these idiots doesnt really matter coz the ANC doesnt care!!

  • Noitol - 2011-06-02 10:02

    Jakob and others of like mind, please take note: bad as things are now, if de Klerk had not led the country our of the apartheid quagmire, it would soon have been embroiled in civil war, with international support firmly on the side of the blacks. As it was, if you can remember that far back, we missed wholesale catastrophe by the dust on our toenails. Zuma and Malema are a pair of idiots, one a smiling fool and the other a dangerous buffoon, but there are signs, however tenuous, that things are changing and I for one am confident that sanity will prevail.

  • Marcell - 2011-06-02 10:02

    Yip, master de klerk. Where is your checks and balls?

  • tdk25 - 2011-06-02 10:05

    The problem is that the media give Malema waaaayy too much publicity. If they didn't report on every stupid thing that comes out of his a$$$hole, nobody would take him seriously.

      Spoofed - 2011-06-02 10:30

      But if they did not report then nobody would know, and thus nobody would be able to take him down a notch.. not that nobody has ever tried either.. eish

  • tut - 2011-06-02 10:08

    Zuma/Malema/shlema whatever. All the same to me. Brand destroying, corrupt, stereotype toxic leadership. One is crooked, corrupt and sly and the other is power hungry, genocide promoting ignoramus bent on racism. Both these idiots have dragged South Africa into toilet bowl politics let alone the damage they have done to their own circus party!

  • Sheda Hab - 2011-06-02 10:12

    De Klerk led our land to freedom. I applaud him. Zuma is stealing our freedom. I am disgusted.

  • Edge - 2011-06-02 10:13

    Let's just go to war and get this over and done with! Tired of sitting around waiting to be killed in my bed

  • PrinceCharle - 2011-06-02 10:13

    "Malema's conduct is irreconcilable with the Constitution, which Zuma promised in an oath to protect." Which is why I will NEVER vote for the current ANC.

  • claudevn - 2011-06-02 10:13

    If one is not allowed to voice a (NON INFLAMATORY) opinion that is guided by our constitution on news24. THEN WHY ARE WE ALLOWED TO COMMEND IN THE FIRST PLACE... MEDIA BEAUROCRACY!!!

  • Johnny - 2011-06-02 10:15

    Jakob, it was inevitable that the old south africa would come tumbling down, life is just not sustainable if one is oppressed by another. after 19 years of equality and 17 years of democracy dont we all think its time to bury the proverbial hatchet, and focus on getting the goverment to realise that too and get rid of the drift wood, to build a furture for all south africans. just a thought, use it, dont use