De Waal murder suspect 'a good person'

2011-10-14 08:44

Johannesburg - A neighbour of the man who has been arrested for the murder of schoolgirl Louise de Waal, 16, has expressed shock and disbelief at the news.

He told The Times that the suspect - who has not been identified - is a good man who doesn’t drink or smoke. He works in Roodepoort and lives in a nice neighbourhood with his wife, son and three dogs.

"He was always friendly and always neat. He was such a good person. That's why it's such a shock."

But the suspect allegedly confessed to police that he kidnapped De Waal as she was walking to school, apparently because he liked the way she looked.

Neighbours were also unaware that the man is a convicted sex offender who had to perform four hours of community service every Sunday after he was convicted of sexual assault in 2007. Police are now investigating whether he is the Sunday Rapist, thought to have brutally raped 10 girls.

Details emerged on Thursday on how police managed to convince the suspect to turn himself in, with the help of his brother.

Meanwhile, school friends of De Waal at Die Burger High School in Roodepoort were struggling to come to terms with her death and were receiving counselling.

Two bouquets of flowers had been left at the school in her memory. 

  • Elize - 2011-10-14 08:49

    Like smoking and drinking turns you into a murderer and rapist! Wonder what his wife has to say about his previous convictions and about him killing an innocent girl! Damn, there are some sick "people" in this world

      Marc - 2011-10-14 09:04

      How true Elize!! Gin and tonic?

      Ann - 2011-10-14 09:25

      I think many of these weirdos are supposedly "good, nice, quiet people" - just look at Jeffrey Dahmer and a few other notorious names that currently escape my memory. It is said that most people wear a "mask". Clearly his did a perfect job of camouflaging his true nature. Even more scary is that leads a "normal" life with a wife, child and three dogs. Did his wife know of his conviction? If so, how come she stayed around? If not, how did he explain his absence for four hours every Sunday whilst he was doing community service? Perhaps if he is the Sunday rapist as is now suspected, his activities on Sundays pre-empted him to take out his anger and revenge by attacking yet more people. Scariest of all is that the police knew about him and he lived in a normal suburb without any supervision whatsoever. What does this say about our police force or judicial system laws?

      Bullion - 2011-10-14 11:51

      Wonder if his wife did not help him. i have seen and read many cases where the wife helps the husband to lure and upduct there victims. Just the fact that she still stayd with him after he alread was found guilty of previous sex affending make me wonder.

      david.streicher - 2011-10-14 14:34

      "He told The Times that the suspect - who has not been identified - is a good man who doesn’t drink or smoke." I'm not giving up both soon.... does that make me a delinquent?

      mundu.olewega - 2011-10-14 16:25

      Hitler didn't smoke or drink either...look how he turned out. Never trust anyone who doesn't drink (other than if he is/was an alcoholic)

  • Stuart - 2011-10-14 08:52

    good person? my ass, this guy needs to be terminated. disgusting human being.

      Theresa - 2011-10-14 09:15

      I think the most disturbing fact is that he has a son.How safe is that child?

      Marc - 2011-10-14 09:15

      The point is Stuart (and you are quite right of course) that people like this ought to be terminated in exactly the same way that they comitted the atrocities of which they are found guilty. There is a huge publicity potential here that remains untapped and if properly managed (some hope in the new SA!!), could practically pay (through ticket sales) for the running of the Department of Correctional Services. Yup. You guessed it. Public terminations. I know, I know!! A public burning makes a bit of a mess and its over far too soon. But look on the bright side. But for a bit of Jeyes fluid and some elbow grease, it could bring in massive crowds and really give the whole family a wonderful outing.

      Rob - 2011-10-14 10:03

      @Marc - You are no better by suggesting a public execution than the person who does it legally or illegaly. It's sadly built into your DNA. Legalised murder is still murder, its just your small brain which processes this differently and it makes you somehow believe that it's a good thing. You probably don't see the irony in what you say but still you and Stuart are far off from finding a solution that will leave a better world to the next generation. I take pity on your soul.

      markdoubleu - 2011-10-14 10:23

      Marc may be taking things a bit far, but some form of death sentence is surely justified in cases like these? When the alternative is that we put these people away or the rest of their lives at tax payer's expense, I say hang/shock/inject the bastards. If, alternatively, the prison system can be re-worked to become self-supporting and profitable (some form of very low labour cost manufacturing comes to mind) and certain crimes carry minimum life sentences without the possibility of parole, arguments against the death penalty would make a lot more sense.

      Anjojo - 2011-10-14 10:31

      Dear ROB if thats your view,maybe I have a better more humane solution for people with your view on the death penalty.Its called "UNTAPPED PUBLIC POTENTIAL".Now that we are living in a JUNGLE.Why not just erect a public scientific research pay booth and for a couple of coins the public can watch scientist doing medical research on"GOOD PERSON NEIGHBOR THING" RATS like this and rather save a lab rats life.And for double the booth price put that MORON GLAZEDPORKBRAIN judge,who gave this "THING"community service in a next door booth.That will generate $MILLIONS That will give "ANC" officials more available funds to steal.Sorry, but This young girl could have been alive today if we didnt have a president and "ANC government" who's view it is that RAPE is no crime!.Dont take my word on it.Go and do some research on ZUMAS new head of our justice service view on RAPE!!!

      Rob - 2011-10-14 10:35

      @markdoubleu - Agree with you 100% on your second point. These criminals should be forced to farm their own food, provide their own medical, disallowed any communication with the outside world (no family contact, etc). Basically a self contained criminal society which has NO privelages from the outside world other than the funding of guards to make sure they don't get out.

      John - 2011-10-14 10:39

      this is most likly one real sick individauland if he is the sunday rapist and is found guilty and not one ounce of doubt he should be terminated, i am not a psychologist but i dont think this guy's brain can ever be repaired and that he could benifit society in anyway, so my opinion this is the most humane thing to do

      Bryan - 2011-10-14 10:41

      Stuart and Mark, I like your thinking gents! Sorry but I dont take any pity on your souls tho:-)

      Rob - 2011-10-14 11:20

      @Bryan - Again you prove the point I am trying to make which is that in a sick society, the victims and 3rd party commentators soon become the perpetrators of the crimes they are were subjected to and completely against in the first place. There are other solutions that are long lasting, inexpensive and would benefit society in a much more positive way than a quick "state sanctioned" murder. It seems you aren't looking for justice or long term safety and solutions, at best you are looking for sensationalism at worst you are thirsty for blood.

      Marc - 2011-10-14 11:39

      Ah Rob, and you're probably a right-to-lifer too. A "minus times a minus" is a plus. If you get culled for murdering, that's not murder. Its simply removal of a human stain. Never mind my DNA nor my soul, considerate though you are. This is a matter that requires the application of the mind, together with rational reasoning set against the unemotional backdrop of hard experience. If the bad behavour persists, increase the price for committing it. In SA, the price for committing horrendous acts is very low.

      Riëtte - 2011-10-14 13:02

      @ Rob, when it's your daughter who gets raped and/or murdered, spit out nonsense like what you are saying and then we'll talk! Someone who takes a life does not deserve to live. Our justice system does not punish these pigs for what they do, the only justice would be to take his life and let God deal with him afterwards.

      Rob - 2011-10-14 13:45

      @Riëtte - In no way am I standing up for a murderer but an eye for an eye leaves everyone blind. Perhaps you should understand what you are also saying... In your own words: "Someone who takes a life does not deserve to live" - The unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another does not exonerate you from perpetuating a similar crime. Truth be told, if someone killed a member of my family I would most likely want the death penalty to be executed as well. However, what we want is not always what is right.

      janine.cronje - 2011-10-14 14:59

      @ Riëtte, God does not condone the death penalty. 'Let the man who is without sin cast the first stone'. God will allow him to live and he will get what punishment is coming to him. Then God will judge him in death, afraid it's not up to us.

      Jerhone - 2011-10-16 10:04

      well said Stuart,what all these bleeding harts who are against the death sentence need is for a referendum to be held, those against the death sentence who want to keep the murdering filth alive should pay double taxes, i bet you you won't hear of Lecoste and Rob and company who don't realize we already live in a sadistic society, these are guys who live with their heads in the sand

      Rob - 2011-10-20 09:41

      @Jerhone - Your ignorance is fascinating, perhaps you should read up a little on what the costs are in putting a human being to death. Double taxes??? Your grasp of true economics is as warped as your argument.

  • lester.nel - 2011-10-14 08:52

    Very sad in deed,for all the familys.

  • Bryan - 2011-10-14 08:52

    Hang him up by his nuts in public..!! Damn, I had a few ciggies and whiskies last night, best my neighbours lock themselves away..

  • Nick - 2011-10-14 08:55

    yes he will have good things in prison when he is raped 24/7 BASTARD

  • Landon - 2011-10-14 08:55


  • Silver - 2011-10-14 08:56

    So... who do you trust today?

      sandi.s.ranwell - 2011-10-15 10:04


  • henrietta.souter - 2011-10-14 08:57

    To the neighbour: read 'The Sociopath Next Door" by Martha Stout.

      Pieter Van Der Merwe - 2013-06-01 11:51

      very true...

  • YorkHunt - 2011-10-14 08:59

    How is it that a convicted serial sex offender is free to roam our neighborhoods with impunity? Subduing his evil tendencies until he commits another atrocious crime. How many other serial sex offenders has our justice system let loose on us that we no nothing of???

      ndlovucl - 2011-10-14 09:35

      Very true, it's unfortunate that every time we have to lose a loved one because of our incompetent civil servants. You might be living next to a sex offender in your neighbourhood and don't have any clue until they strike,

  • Melinda - 2011-10-14 09:01


      Jacqueline - 2011-10-14 09:16

      I know you are just as angry as I am, but I don't know any animals that rape people! He is not good enough to be called an animal, savage maybe?

      tracey.badenhorst - 2011-10-14 09:36

      Oh just by the way Melinda ANIMALS don't rape people do!!!

      Heather - 2011-10-14 09:39

      Animals are nice, so scum, savage, satins sporn is more appropriate.

  • yannick.yang - 2011-10-14 09:01

    The dark passenger.

  • MissGremlin - 2011-10-14 09:03

    So was Ted Bundy. High functioning sociopath will easily adapt to an evironment where he has the people in his life, neighbors, wife etc. convinced of his "niceness" - until they get caught that is...

  • Michael - 2011-10-14 09:06

    Sigh... how very sad.

  • Mattewis - 2011-10-14 09:12

    Sex offenders ALWAYS repeat their offences. It seems "civilized" western authorities just can't seem to get that fact! When released from prison, it's never "if", but "when" they start again. It's so well documented, but still these people are allowed back into society after serving their incarceration time, usually with "good behavior"! Also, sex offences are usually a progressive issue. When stealing underwear from washing lines isn't enough, they start raping. When that isn't enough, the killing starts! At least one innocent life always has to be lost before the trash is taken off the street. The irony is that this guy will probably be released after receiving a murder sentence, and WILL return to this behavior again in future! There is only one solution - termination.

  • elizabeth.vandyk - 2011-10-14 09:12

    Why is there no public register of these sex offenders/child abusers, their faces should be splashed all over notice boards in their community. There should be a site where all these crimals are named and shamed. Being previously convicted and done it again, what does that say for our justice system.

  • Nick - 2011-10-14 09:12


      MissGremlin - 2011-10-14 09:27

      Your right to freedom of speech does not include death threats. Read up on it some time.

      MissGremlin - 2011-10-14 10:00

      For that matter, nor does it include "incitment". Perhaps I should be more clear: N24 have put in considerable steps to curb emotional, racist rants (mostly to indemnify themselves from prosecution as a result of all the garbage spewed on the site). You, are now, quite traceable. Were the man actually to be "neclaced" to death, the family might well, hunt you down and prosecute you. I am in no way condoning his alleged actions, but you need to know there are repercussions for your actions.

      jeffery.stokes - 2011-10-14 10:14

      Nick you sound like Malema

      galef - 2011-10-14 10:16

      Miss its ok that the ancyl can threaten ppl with death.....KILL THE BOER., its ok for them to shout it out...sing it out loud and have it all over the news......but normal ppl like us cant vent our rage and frustration.....go suck eggs man.!!!!.....

      jeffery.stokes - 2011-10-14 10:45

      @galef - and where does it end ? with all the boer's shot and everyone else necklaced? incitment is incitment, but for some reason you think that its ok for you to do the same because an idiot did it before you?

      Candice - 2011-10-14 11:14

      MissGremlin, yes you have a point, but what is the Government doing about people like him? go to jail and have a party inside it...they get free food etc, whilst the families of the victims are mourning over their kids/family member? really now. The Government must bring back the death penalty because these people are doing what they like and somehow getting away with it. Who the heck gets out on bail for a murder or stabbing someone? its sick! they will do it again and again. Yes, sometimes they dont catch the right criminal at times, but when they do they should do 'DEATH PENALTY'...this cannot go on. Reading all the news about kids being raped, females being raped, murders, its getting worse. this is a sick World.

      adelejv - 2011-10-14 11:54

      Come on you guys what the hell does it have to do with racism??? It doesnt matter what colour a person is, he raped a child he burnt her, and maybe she was alive when set alight!! A rapist is a rapist and needs to be punished the way he punished his victims. Will you still feel the same if he did this to one of your family members, or your own daughter??

  • Ralph - 2011-10-14 09:12

    The problem is that he will just go to jail and that's it for about 25 years. He may get off on good behaviour. He will get free TV,free medical, free clothing, can play sport, can do a degree, have rights, have the vote etc etc. He is of no value to the country nor will he make any contribution. BUT we the taxpayers must pay to keep him there. Where is the justice in that? Louise de Waal's family will be left griefing probably for the rest of their lives. My heart really goes out to them.

      Nick - 2011-10-14 09:23


      myniek - 2011-10-14 14:04

      He will get more than 25 years, if he is the Sunday Rapist. Minimum sentence for raping a minor is 25 years, and he committed this crime over and over, and eventually committed murder. He has a previous conviction, and he evaded the law for years- full well knowing that he is a wanted man. These things will be taken into account - the cops just need to handle this case right and justice will be served. No arguing that he deserves the death penalty, but this is our law system.

  • Thelma - 2011-10-14 09:15

    huh....did I read correct? Good person, married and a father....

  • Christo - 2011-10-14 09:17

    He meant "appeared" to be a good person,and yes not drinking and smoking makes you Good??, I like that generalisation, You meant maybe "He appeared to be of sober habits like Ted Bundy".What an absolute coward,go and hide in a Police cell,couldnt just shoot himself,piece of sh*t!

  • Kotie - 2011-10-14 09:24

    Ironic isn't it? The "Sunday rapist" who "had to perform four hours of community service every Sunday after he was convicted of sexually assault.." and twelve kids later (two dead and ten scarred for life!!!), we start to ask questions. Our criminal justice sytems failed each and every one of them and their families and will fail each of us when it is our turn. My daughter is 17 years old, God help me if ever...

  • Raymond - 2011-10-14 09:25

    Hitler never smoked or drank either!

  • Raeez - 2011-10-14 09:33

    WOW. If this is what good people do then i dont wanna know what bad people are capable of...

  • dejong.ian - 2011-10-14 09:39

    I wish we where in the middle east sometimes...public execution, and chop his crotch with a blunt sword!!

      Jerhone - 2011-10-16 10:25

      to Lacoste, you bleeding harts should get to keep these bastards in your homes under house arrest, you can feed them,cloth them give them medical attention with your own money, maybe entertain them with your daughters or wife we'll see how quickly you change your mind. Don't you realize that the longer these murdering pigs stay alive in jail there are less poor good people who can't receive a house or state help, what do you say to them? because more and more money needs to go to the prisons department

  • Bloubul Jonck - 2011-10-14 09:39

    HE isn't even good for the HELL it is to lenient and easy for him

  • Terry - 2011-10-14 09:49

    need to remove this prawn from society .... permanently!

  • baudoux1 - 2011-10-14 09:49

    Sick F#$K he should be dismembered while alive!!!!!

  • Sam - 2011-10-14 09:51

    Hell of a nice guy… other than that habit of raping and murdering young girls.

  • galef - 2011-10-14 10:00

    Why hide his face???.......expose his face so woman can come forward and confirm if he is the rapist...maybe he has raped more woman that the police think......SHOW THE BASTARDS FACE TO THE WORLD!!!!!...

  • Ian - 2011-10-14 10:04

    what an idiot, i dont drink or smoke either but im no rapist or murderer, get a grip man

  • Roy - 2011-10-14 10:07

    Any one that does what this man did is NOT a good person. Are they going to plead insanity?

      Ian - 2011-10-14 10:54

      they usually do followed by 'you dont understand' which is then followed by ' i want a lawyer'

  • Nick - 2011-10-14 10:09


  • Jessica - 2011-10-14 10:10

    This happened so close to home, I could have walked past this bastard in the shops and didn't even know it! Wish i did though, would have cut his balls off and pushed it into his mouth in public! I wonder what his wife must think? I'd be so disgusted, i'd send him chocolate brownies in prison with poison in! Disgusting PIG

  • Marieta - 2011-10-14 10:11

    Bring back the death sentence !!!!!!!

  • camp.j - 2011-10-14 10:12

    Why have they not named him????

      MissGremlin - 2011-10-14 10:21

      No charges have been brought before the courts as yet.

      Deon - 2011-10-14 10:36

      He has to appear in court first. Let us hope they deny bail.

  • Christo - 2011-10-14 10:32

    Can you believe it?, he did Community service on Sundays , and may be the dubbed Sunday rapist.Not the kind of service the community needs!Criminal Justice Service?,its time the Government has a refefendum on the death penalty to determine what the people want.Once that is done ,then one can talk about the rule of law , currently, it is only the view of a few liberal people in charge of the country which keeps the Death Penalty abolished,not decent citizens!Decent citizens will ensure that justice based on democracy rules!And Not justice based on opressing the masses.

  • John - 2011-10-14 10:33

    Hang him high!

  • nixstix - 2011-10-14 10:35

    The worst is that this child of his has to grow up knowing what his father did. If that part of his body is bugging him, chop it off. It makes me sick to see his photo... and I haven't even seen his face yet.

  • Janice - 2011-10-14 10:36

    I had better stop smoking and drinking, or I might turn into a monster!

  • Paul - 2011-10-14 10:37

    Hand him over to the family and let them deal with him

  • Nathi - 2011-10-14 10:39

    I hope alot of people "Like the way he looks" when he gets to jail.

  • Fran - 2011-10-14 10:41

    Good people don't kill, kidnap nor kill others. The fact that you are a quite person doesn't mean you don't think evil stuff in your head. Good person my foot man.

  • Yusuf - 2011-10-14 10:43

    jeckyl and hyde

  • Koos - 2011-10-14 10:56

    nee jissie... siek verby...... hy moet weg gevat word van die aarde af.... hom dalk in n moesa vuur gooi! innige meegevoel vir die familie en vriende...

  • PaardiePantz - 2011-10-14 10:56

    That's strange because on the memorial group on facebook another person who said he lives in the rapists street always saw him sitting outside on the electricity metre. Always wearing the same clothes and no shoes and just sitting there smoking for about an hour and then he goes back inside. Doesn't matter who he was he's an effing pig. It's disgusting. Hy's nie die titel 'man' of 'mens' werd nie!! Ongelukkig is daar nie doodstraf nie maar ek hoop hy kry lewenslange tronkstraf en word vir 25jaar lank elke dag brutally verkrag deur groot mans in die tronk

  • Amy - 2011-10-14 10:56

    Da poor son & wife! May God forgive this man

  • Leatherman - 2011-10-14 11:03

    Should this bit in the article not read "sexual assault" instead of "sexually assault"?

  • Ruan - 2011-10-14 11:04

    Reading some of the comments below makes me realize just how fortunate i am having left SA- South Africa is a very "sick" society at the moment !!

  • Tertia - 2011-10-14 11:12

    Name and shame the bastard. Why should his identuty be protected?

  • Candice - 2011-10-14 11:13

    MissGremlin, yes you have a point, but what is the Government doing about people like him? go to jail and have a party inside it...they get free food etc, whilst the families of the victims are mourning over their kids/family member? really now. The Government must bring back the death penalty because these people are doing what they like and somehow getting away with it. Who the heck gets out on bail for a murder or stabbing someone? its sick! they will do it again and again. Yes, sometimes they dont catch the right criminal at times, but when they do they should do 'DEATH PENALTY'...this cannot go on. Reading all the news about kids being raped, females being raped, murders, its getting worse. this is a sick World.

      MissGremlin - 2011-10-14 12:26

      Actually Candice, that was not my point at all. I remarked that the commentor (Nick) should perhaps be a bit more moderate with his comments, as he could get into trouble. I, in no way, condone the levels of violent behaviour in our country. The commentors on this forum frequently try to hide behind their "right to freedom of speech" as a method of spewing racist or murderous intent. With the facebook login now, it is going to list who you are, who you work for etc. And as this is a PUBLIC domain, you can be traced and sued for the content of your comment.

  • Lionel - 2011-10-14 11:17

    Instead of locking them up, all rapists and other violent criminals should be surgically castrated (to prevent them breeding), and have both legs amputated - it's cheaper to give them wheelchairs and social grants than to keep them in prison. I bet you that the above would also act as a damn good deterrent.