Death-trap taxi was speeding at 128km/h

2012-07-05 09:16

Cape Town - A minibus taxi was driving at an average speed of 128 kilometres an hour before it crashed near Aberdeen, killing seven people, the Western Cape transport department said on Thursday.

Spokesperson Siphesihle Dube said the department was independently investigating the crash, using information gathered from cameras on the R61 route and police reports.

The high-fatality route formed part of a camera-monitored 70 kilometre stretch, better known as the Average Speed Over Distance network.

The taxi was travelling to Cape Town on Wednesday when it rolled about 50 kilometres outside Aberdeen, in the Karoo, around 05:00.

Twelve people, including four children, were injured.

  • gerrit.marx - 2012-07-05 09:22

    so i am reading correctly, there was 19 people in this taxi?? 7 killed and 12 injured???

      angus.stembull - 2012-07-05 09:24

      probably a Quantum 24 seater. They all over right now. sad event

      clementine.mbewe - 2012-07-05 09:25

      Based on the info given you'd be correct, but there's a lot missing from this report methinks

      marie.salzwedel - 2012-07-05 10:23

      @angus.stembull The largest Quantum you get is a 14 seater!!!!! I've never heard of a 24 seater...........

      harley.quin.334 - 2012-07-05 10:24

      @polodonkey, you are a sad little moron

      peter.jefferies.90 - 2012-07-05 10:34

      Put the taxi driver in Jail for life and @poloyatonkim you can join him you fool!

      Heinrich - 2012-07-05 11:57

      @poloyatonkim , Aberdeen is in the eastern cape. I don't understand why the Western Cape transport department reported this. Please take this up with Premier Noxolo Kiviet of the African National Congress.

      koos.meyer.52 - 2012-07-08 11:51

      ANC Govt ministers couldn't give a toss about the poor people who travel in these death traps. Ditto for Cosatu - why no trade union for taxi drivers? With min psy and max work hours and insistence on safety standards? Cosatu do not care for the poor, just enriching themselves!!

  • Lulama - 2012-07-05 09:28

    damn taxi drivers killing innocent people. Clearly he had a death wish and should have jumped over the bridge somewhere and dies alone

      cody.cross.1213 - 2012-07-05 09:43

      If a Taxi driver survives this type of accident he should have his licence terminated and never be able to drive again. Maybe that will stop the carnage on our roads Mrs Minister of transport,do something constructive and decisive PLEASE!!!!!

      Ally - 2012-07-05 09:54

      Cody: Why take away only his licence? How about amputating his arms and legs too, the way some of his passengers have been injured? Seems fair. Seems to be "constructive enough"

      fredster.mania.5 - 2012-07-05 10:06

      Start keeping the Taxi owner responsible as well. They dodge the roadworthyness of the taxis as well as dodging taxes.

      tony.vanniekerk.35 - 2012-07-16 16:01

      If company directors can be held liable for non-compliance with company regulations, hospitals for negligent behavior by doctors, bus companies for negligent bus drivers etc, why not Taxi bosses for their drivers? There is no interest on the side of Government to do something about this.

  • Clive - 2012-07-05 09:36

    Is this going to be the news for the rest of July ? Would like to hear the minister of transport commenting.

      Clive - 2012-07-05 09:57

      All you'll get are the usual platitudes, namesake. The taxi industry is off limits to ANC politicians.

      Clive - 2012-07-05 10:10

      You are wrong CliveK, the taxi industry is owned by the politicians. Previous ministe of transport offered R60000 per taxi, to get the 'old' ones from the roads, They are still running, question now, who did the minister give the money too ?

      Clive - 2012-07-05 15:04

      In other words you are agreeing with me, Clive! What I meant is that the ANC will not rein in the taxi industry because of connections and a lack of political will, i.e. don't mess with one of our support bases.

      Clive - 2012-07-06 11:17

      CliveK, I agree

  • aubrey.christie - 2012-07-05 09:39

    Not a peep from the trade unions. Can you imagine the hullabaloo had this been a mine accident. different strokes for different folks.

  • francois.vuuren - 2012-07-05 09:50

    Again nothing will be done about this, some hype will be created for a week or so, and then just as always it just disappears like the morning mist. I've driven on the N2 towards and from Cape Town before at 120km/h, and had taxis (note the plural) speed past me from behind filled with people. Taking someone's licence does nothing, as some don't even have licences; giving a ticket is useless, it's a piece of paper. If we had decent, cost effective public transport that did not pose the threat of being mugged, then we can rid ourselves from these taxis all together. Some people might say that loosing their jobs is bad for the community, well loosing your community in a taxi is worse. I dare a someone to make a REAL change, come now Zille...

  • Badpuppy77 - 2012-07-05 09:53

    I can understand the passengers not doing anything to the driver when traveling at speed for fear of being thrown out of the taxi and not getting to their destination. But really, all the adults in this taxi could do absolutely nothing to stop the driver from speeding? Really? nothing? They just sit like sheep?

      mike.bundy.73 - 2012-07-05 10:29

      Sadly the passengers are often telling the driver to hurry up. Many passengers have no idea of speed limits and such, they cannot really tell that the taxi is speeding.

      Sharon - 2012-07-05 10:40

      sheeple - 2012-07-05 13:56

      they roll the same way they vote.. like sheep

  • trevor.pietersen.3 - 2012-07-05 09:54

    why don't they build "govenors" into the taxi's to limit the speed

      afrikeni - 2012-07-05 10:05

      This one motor vehicle that I will support governors to 100km/hr, they are irresponsible behing the wheel - so treat them like kids.

      Gerald - 2012-07-05 10:09

      128km/h isnt very fast for a roadworthy mini bus that is under the proper control. It is when drivers have a nap or a dop that things go wobbly and off road and it becomes deadly. - 2012-07-05 13:57

      @Gerald or when the AQNMC allows them to do their driver training on a playstation..

      Clive - 2012-07-05 15:06

      @Gerald: but the speed limit for taxis (and buses, I think) is 100, except where LESSER speeds are indicated. So it was more than 25% over the limit.

      Emily-Jane Elson - 2012-07-05 16:49

      And the taxi is heavy, fully & overloaded.. They don't give a flying VARK and will do what they want! Bet they'd be first to sue if it happened to them..

  • phosa.peter2 - 2012-07-05 09:56

    Oh No!what is wrong with puplic transport.condoleses to the deacesed family. - 2012-07-05 13:59

      whats worng u ask.. ask the cANCer why this is happening..those familis shuld sue the trafic minister for allowin this to go on on the roads

      mduduzik - 2012-07-08 16:32

      If you say whats wrong what do you mean?Everything is wrong cant you see.Drivers,owners,vehicles that are unroadworthy, thats what is wrong, to provide answer to your ignorant question

  • pmbadenhorst - 2012-07-05 10:00

    shut them down - how many of our people and children must die before government does something!!!

  • brian.kearsey - 2012-07-05 10:02

    Why don't the passangers start standing up for their rights, there are 15 - 20 of them and onl 1 driver, get together and klap the driver if he does wrong, if all passangers do this then they will eventually start driving properly

      kasiboy55 - 2012-07-05 11:45

      Yea that makes perfect sense hey... A driver getting slapped while he is moving at 128km/h is a smart way of reducing the carnage...

      Emily-Jane Elson - 2012-07-05 16:47

      Then put a gun to his head and tell him to slow the fu€|< down!! You have every right to get where you are going in ONE PIECE!! And if theres an accident and he and I made it, I'd beat the living varking $HIT out of him!!

  • Gavin - 2012-07-05 10:04

    there isn't a punishment appropriate for this type of crime. this is what happens when you have an organised crime operation that couldn't give a flying frack what the government thinks or wants. if zuma and his anc bum chums weren't such cowards, they'd do something about this slaughter on our roads. if you vote for incompetents then the roads will be covered in the blood of the innocent.

  • Jannie - 2012-07-05 10:08

    I was on that road one night a few years back at 2 am in the morning, came across a taxi that had rolled, and bodies were strewn everywhere. 100km/h is their speed limit, they should stick to it. They should follow the laws of the road, but they dont. And thats why our death tolls are so high.

      Jannie - 2012-07-05 10:10

      ban them form doing long haul trips, :) there is an idea.

  • vmeiring1 - 2012-07-05 10:13

    Why debating taxi accidents???? Everyone except the government seems to stress about these roadhogs, but nothing is being done. These deaths are to be blamed on the government.. My condolences to the victims and their families.

      trevor.pietersen.3 - 2012-07-05 10:33

      some goverment guys own fleets of taxis....that why they don't comment

  • nathan.elston1 - 2012-07-05 10:15

    Let just be grateful all the daily commuters cant afford to have cars! I thought they had taxi associations? When this happens, the taxi owners should have their license revoked... There is no accountability - they in essence a business? So shut them down! Then I'm sure they will make their drivers adhere to the laws?

      nathan.elston1 - 2012-07-05 10:23

      Wait here is a logical proposal, the government should make them put something like a tacho reader... or satellite tracking their speed? They could even give their family the tender and we in business. Its a simple solution to an ongoing problem.

  • richard.wraith - 2012-07-05 10:26

    Taxi drivers are reckless, arrogant, disrespectful, incentivised to speed and drive un-roadworthy vehicles all of which is encouraged by weak law enforcement. Privately owned public transport does not work particularly if laws are not enforced. Pathetic...

  • Dhavandran - 2012-07-05 10:27

    what taxi? no its a bus, check the pax numbers.i suppose it must have passed a couple of rti's on the way to cape town but they did not bother to do a check because they did not have an inspector of the drivers race to communicate with him as was requested by the taxi association in durban recently.

  • mmatzener - 2012-07-05 10:47

    I would propose that all taxis and buses should have a moratorium placed on them preventing them from driving between Beaufort West and Aberdeen as well as Laingsberg/Three Sisters from 10pm till 4am. This will give the drivers a chance to rest. Unless they can prove they have a second driver on board.Of course this may backfire and make them go even faster....! This continual loss of life is one of the biggest tragedies in the RSA. PLEASE get the rail service to Transkei up and running....!

  • JNaMolefe - 2012-07-05 10:51

    that taxi driver, im gonna wreck at taxi drivers!! Yesterday, the other taxi driver faster and turned over to the left lane in the front of my own car! Doesnt they understand its too dangerous for all of us, we are human being! Not animal or whatsoever. May God rest their souls :(

  • wredman2 - 2012-07-05 10:54

    So again, a speed camera system saves no lives and a taxi kills a bunch of people, and the traffic authorities will continue to blow smoke up our bums about how fantastic their system is. I hope that the families of the dead find a crafty lawyer who will sue the Authorities in a class action suite for criminal negligence. All the money raised from speed trapping by camera from all the piss pot towns on kajor roads should be paid over to the families of victims of eexcessive speeding and dangerous driving by public transport providers. The moment we take away the financial benefit for local authorities of speed trapping, we will get better and proper policing. Replace fines with public service, and most of us who do speed will slow down. The inconvenience of public service is more of a deterrent than paying a fine!

  • jbota8 - 2012-07-05 10:58

    And... they will be taking Cellphones away now!!!!!

  • DrGonzoSA - 2012-07-05 10:58

    So much for the people yesterday accusing everyone of being presumptious in blaming the taxi. Taxi owners must be held responsible. Same as any other industry. But they have the ANC in their pocket

  • felican - 2012-07-05 11:11

    OK - what a shame - however was this overloading plus the OVER speeding - together with possibly driver neglect and tiredness????

  • lianna.danielz - 2012-07-05 11:25

    @ poloyatonkim I didn't realise Helen Zille was driving the Taxis this is a government issue not a DA problem this happens all over the country. The WC seems to be better off than any other province so open your eyes don't call people useless what have you done to make things better.

  • ernieschellhorn - 2012-07-05 11:27

    How come Taxi's have a 100km circular sign on the rear doors? What does this sign mean ? Someone please???

  • elkita.robbertse - 2012-07-05 11:44

    The taxis are doing a good job.Just sad that innocent people die too.

  • maronza.tshabalala - 2012-07-05 11:47

    I am sure the taxi did not roll for 50km most probarbly 50-metres. Otherwise it would have to roll from Joburg to Pretoria and there is no such momentum other than petroleum propelled machine that can go that distance.

  • Jake - 2012-07-05 12:04

    WHen oh when, will our drivers start behaving???? wwwfatalmovesdotcom

  • Matthew - 2012-07-05 12:12

    Another one of these animals killing the inocent lives of people just wanting to get to and back from work.Not just them,but their families.And i honestly could not care less that "they also (the drivers) have mouth's to feed" there is NOTHING,NOTHING that justify's the reckless driving that these hooligans do/drive like on our roads.and they still have the audasity to tell the metro to bugger off and not fine them,arrest them,cause what,they dont like it? I hope the driver survives,so he cant sit with this on his mind for the rest of his life whilst he rots in jail.Murderer

  • Greg.J.M - 2012-07-05 12:27

    Its all about the money for the taxi driver, no respect for life or other road uses and as per usual. Also the owners of these vehicles should be held responsible as they employ the drivers and expect them to deliver huge profits everyday, the driver should be charged with attempted murder, his licence taken away and the owner of the taxi be held legally accountable for his drivers actions.

  • patrick.makgeledise - 2012-07-05 19:14

    Jah neh

  • Dave - 2012-07-05 21:31

    Just shows and prove my point - Speed trapping by camera is also just a money making scheme of selective law enforcement....What good will it be now if the sod gets his \speeding tickets\ 30 days later. He already killed 7 people. There should have been a vehicle dispatched to intercept and intervene before disaster struck....Speed cameras are stupid

  • Dave - 2012-07-05 21:35

    Just shows and prove my point - Speed trapping by camera is also just a money making scheme of selective law enforcement....What good will it be now if the sod gets his \speeding tickets\ 30 days later. He already killed 7 people. There should have been a vehicle dispatched to intercept and intervene before disaster struck....Speed cameras are stupid

  • lenny.kagiso - 2012-07-06 00:15

    50km ? we also went to school maan how. bare skae bona e tlhotsa wae nametsa thaba. Lona le maaka maan, liars. 50km 5 . . . not true

  • - 2012-07-07 12:47

    I was recently overtaken by a truck travelling at 140km/h. I tried to catch up and trail him to get the registration number but felt uncomfortable travelling at 150 just to catch him.

  • mduduzik - 2012-07-08 16:23

    @ gerrt.marx it sounds like from the report.@angus.stenmbull de is no 24 seater quantum,its only iveco,mercedes sprinters and vw buses.or you can check the insert picture and that is not a quantum.It was overloaded as usual,coffin on wheels.

  • rob.tubbs.39 - 2012-07-08 18:59

    Why are Taxi's not governed to say 90 kph before they leave the factory. Make road worthy inspections compulsory every six months, and at the same time make the drivers 'retake' a drivers test. Problem is many of these Taxi's are owned by Government employees/ministers/Policemen. Sad thing is this carnage will continue indefinately irrespective of what precautions are put into place. May those who died RIP and condolences to their families...

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