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'Domestic incidents at Pistorius's house'

2013-02-14 14:03

Pretoria - There have previously been incidents of a “domestic nature” at Oscar Pistorius’s house, police said on Thursday following the death of a woman at the paralympian’s Pretoria home.

"I confirm there had been previous incidents of a domestic nature at his place but this will form part of the investigation," police spokesperson Brigadier Denise Beukes said.

Pistorius will likely be charged with murder after allegedly shooting his girlfriend, Reeva Steenkamp, at his house in Silver Woods Country Estate in Pretoria.

She said there was no sign of forced entry into Pistorius's house and reports that Steenkamp was shot after she was mistaken for an intruder were not coming from the police.

"As SA Police Services we do not have a report based on those allegations. We only heard over the radio that the woman was shot after she was mistaken for an intruder."

Beukes said forensic detectives were busy collecting evidence from the crime scene and journalists would not be allowed in until the police handed over the scene to the estate's security company.

Bail for Pistorius would also be opposed when he appears in the Pretoria Magistrate's Court on Thursday at 14:00.

"We are at this stage as the SA Police Services not able to disclose why we are opposing bail," said Beukes.

Pistorius was held at the Boschkop police station in the morning, then taken to the Mamelodi Day Clinic and was expected to be taken to the court after that.

Pistorius was co-operating with police, she said.

Comments
  • StreetRacer911 - 2013-02-14 14:12

    Refuse a co-operating paraplegic bail, but let a rapist leave court due to 'lack of evidence'. Pathetic justice system

      Alibi DeCoy - 2013-02-14 14:24

      how foolish of you trying to link two separate incidents just to spite your government. #dumpstar

      Alibi DeCoy - 2013-02-14 14:24

      how foolish of you trying to link two separate incidents just to spite your government. #dumpstar

      Alibi DeCoy - 2013-02-14 14:24

      how foolish of you trying to link two separate incidents just to spite your government. #dumpstar

      ian.robertreid - 2013-02-14 14:28

      Selective on race??

      ian.robertreid - 2013-02-14 14:28

      Selective on race??

      ian.robertreid - 2013-02-14 14:28

      Selective on race??

      Simni - 2013-02-14 15:04

      Idiot

      robert.simachaina - 2013-02-14 15:42

      Stupid!!

      pierre.nortje.581 - 2013-02-14 18:29

      Ballade vir 'n enkel-ling

      deepak.bhana.75 - 2013-02-14 22:04

      white on white violence (murder!!)..what a shame..surely the foreign investors will flee SA at this news

      Velvetnose - 2013-02-15 02:09

      RACER: Talk about citing half the truth... Pistorius is 'a co-operating paraplegic', but you seem to have forgotten the 'accused of murder'part.

      christoffel.koen - 2013-02-15 10:21

      Alibi DeCoy, that is quite a good comment. I don't remember when last I read a more sensible reply on this site.

  • Jurie Vermeulen - 2013-02-14 14:15

    Why is Oscar still in possession of a firearm if there were a history of domestic violence

      shayne.r.barker - 2013-02-14 14:56

      That is a very good question.. Perhaps something for SAPS to consider. Ppl with history of domestic violence should be flagged and perhaps have firearms removed.

      marianne.dijzel - 2013-02-14 19:33

      If you had no legs, I doubt if you would sleep with your prosthesis on, what other means would a person have to defend himself if an intruder entered his premises? He can't "run" anywhere suddenly at night if he suspected somebody was in his home. Inasmuch as it's s "security complex", I have my reservations ...many a murder has been committed by perpetrators who managed to enter a "so called" security complex. These housing estates are not more safe than a house in a street. For the moment I shall give Oscar the benefit of the doubt. If course there will be references to a previous incident when a female was ordered to leave Oscar's premises. Celebrities are prone to be hounded by celebrity (sport) junkies who want to be "seen" or be known to be "friends" or "girl friends" with a celebrity like Oscar. I feel desperately sorry for the victim and her family, as I'm sorry for Oscar and his family. Let us not judge until we know the whole story. There are already discrepancies in the story - the neighbours "heard fighting and screaming at 4 am in the morning" where it's now been said that the shooting took place at 1 am in the morning.

  • Daniel Jayson Brink - 2013-02-14 14:21

    He is an amputee and was asleep in his bed? Yet he managed to wake up, from a silent entry, to get on his prosthetics and go shoot his girlfriend 4 times at close range??? I'm sorry mistaken identity makes no sense to me whatsoever!

      desireekathleen.kemp - 2013-02-14 14:50

      Very astute of you to point that out. But yeah the reality is exactly that...

      teddy.beer.319 - 2013-02-14 16:23

      Apparently I want to differ. As an amputee, the reasons for the shooting may as well be related to that. You can only doubt as you do if we know the place of shooting and the type of gun (which we have some info now) used. Being 'disabled', he should sleep with his gun at arms length and in case of an intruder, he has to shoot decisively since a tussle is not an option for him. We can only make sense of the situation if we know where the lady was shot (face, back of head etc), what place (by the bed, doorway etc, visibility, and the gun used. These details are yet to be released.

      shaun.cousins1 - 2013-02-14 19:45

      I would have thought that an alarm system would have been installed being in that area. Maybe his girlfriend had been out all night, and when she returned he thought he let go of some anger management!!!!

      Moonsie - 2013-02-15 07:53

      From what I read in the Beeld, and what I understood from it, he was awake at the time. The intruder story was spread as a rumour and not as a fact. He shot her through the bathroom door. In other words: they were having an argument, she locked herself in the bathroom and he shot through the door and maybe did not realize the bullets would go through.

  • Ntutu Dlova - 2013-02-14 14:24

    He kills someone and should just go home,because he has prothestic legs, now thats pathetic.

  • elliot55 - 2013-02-14 14:27

    south african OJ Simpson

  • yanga.tamela - 2013-02-14 14:31

    Just bcz oscar is white ppl will blame gov. I don't think so he is a killer Who can rob at the estate I mean da security is tite de no oscar

      charlene.taylor.758 - 2013-02-14 14:37

      U and ur colour?! Are u perhaps an artist/painter????? No where in news reports was the govt blamed. Goodness ur revolting. Look beyond colour....

      charlene.taylor.758 - 2013-02-14 14:37

      U and ur colour?! Are u perhaps an artist/painter????? No where in news reports was the govt blamed. Goodness ur revolting. Look beyond colour....

      charlene.taylor.758 - 2013-02-14 14:37

      U and ur colour?! Are u perhaps an artist/painter????? No where in news reports was the govt blamed. Goodness ur revolting. Look beyond colour....

      Brandon Cook - 2013-02-14 15:18

      people stop this race crap it really is boring

  • King Vincent Rantsane - 2013-02-14 14:31

    it's sad how one can throw their life away just like that..

  • zwivhuyamufamadi - 2013-02-14 14:42

    Well it true money can't buy one happiness.

  • fnxusani - 2013-02-14 14:44

    Because he is a white person he will be released with 1 million rand bail mark my words and shoot me if I lie!!!!

      madelein.vanduuren - 2013-02-14 18:46

      another person obsessed with race. Was Jub Jub Maarohanye not out on bail when people were killed with his reckless driving? Real proof that other persons are also awarded bail. Your obsession is clouding your vision.

      emil.scharf.75 - 2013-02-14 19:11

      No please shoot yourself fnxusani,besides the fact that I do not have a million this country can do much better without white as well as black racists.White racists who think they are superior and black racists like yourself who have issues with an inferiority complex (So sad that you use the SACP logo- Uncle Joe Slovo surely cries in heaven to see an SACP racist like you)...I am sure Bees Roux is not the only white man convicted for killing a black.I can think of Clive Derby Lewis and that former Vlakplaas comander, and they both have been sitting for a very long time.So frankly I don't know what your problem is-except that perhaps you are extremely happy to see that there are irresponsible whites as well, which means you are used to nothing...

      sekadi.phayane - 2013-02-14 20:21

      Wow Emil Scharf! I love your comments!! This black woman completely agrees with you. I am so sick of both white AND black racists.

  • belinda.tshofela - 2013-02-14 14:49

    Majority of blacks commenting on this story want him to be locked up for life, majority of white afrikaners want him to get off scot free, majority of non afrikaans white South africans(british ancestry,jews, etc)are not so sure what to make out of this, they keeping neutral for the time being.

      Michael Hawthorne - 2013-02-14 15:02

      ek is n afrikaner en se hy moet in die woestyn gelos word sonder sy voete. moet nie dink omdat ek n engelse naam en van het my bloed is nie afrikaans nie...

      estie.erasmus.3 - 2013-02-14 15:18

      Belinda voor jy weer n opmerking oor afrikaners maak,kry eers jou feite agtermekaar, ons is moeg om gekruisig te word as ons ons menings lig en dit nie is wat ander mense wil hoor nie.Ek het van vanoggend af al die kommentaar gelees en verskoon my maar die snedigste en walglikste opmerkings het vanaf engels sprekende kommentators gekom. Geen afrikaansprekende persoon het gesê hy moet skotvry kom nie, ons wag tot die waarheid uitkom. Dit kos niks om beide families aan die Vader op te dra vir krag en onderskraging. Dit is net baie snaak toe die aktrise die ou dame in Soweto dood gery het was haar naam vir n hele naweek weerhou. Maar van die storie gepubliseer is is Oscar se naam. Genoem sonder dat hy eers aangekla is hoe nou

  • kevin.paul.94695459 - 2013-02-14 14:51

    Personality meeting oscar and getting 2 meeting him I think most of the public are trying too act like jokers let's all stand as a nation and get behind oscar people what if that was you in his shoes how would you like us as a nation think of you let's all unite as 1 in this country let's give him a fair chance like we all derseve

      Michael Hawthorne - 2013-02-14 15:04

      he shot her twice once in arm and once in the face. after shooting some in the arm they flinch and if you can shoot them in the head you saw their face no excuse...

      Stanléy Dube - 2013-02-14 15:05

      if it was a black guy done what he did u could have been calling for death penalty guys let us not judge by the colour of skin.im no racist but on what i have been reading on comments really some people have to change their views on crime,if committed by what ever colour crime is crime lets not take sides.

      dmvilane - 2013-02-14 15:53

      Paul Kruger please stop using your anus to comment here....a killer is a killer irrespective of colour or creed...justice should prevail

  • kayla.yelliah - 2013-02-14 14:53

    Why has this become a race thing? It is 2013 people, the race card does no longer exist! Let justice be served and stop complaining about him being white and handicapped! He will get what's coming for him sooner or later

      charlene.taylor.758 - 2013-02-14 15:08

      U go girl

      karin.devereuxrackley - 2013-02-14 15:21

      Good comment,and true....

  • julian.sadlo - 2013-02-14 14:56

    And the oscar goes to.....Jail. Involuntary Manslaughter.

      nhlamu.makariqa - 2013-02-14 15:12

      wow dat intentional nd voluntary bru ,which planet a u from ??? no black person force him 2 kill de girl

      madelein.vanduuren - 2013-02-14 18:54

      @nhlamu.makariqa. You obviously do not read OR you eyes are blind. Where does Julian mention 'black'.

  • Radinnem - 2013-02-14 14:56

    News 24 and its bias articles, just last week a girl was raped and killed and News 24's Mark H was qualified to call the ANC

  • Radinnem - 2013-02-14 15:04

    News 24 and its bias articles, just last week a girl was raped and killed and News 24's Mark H was qualified to call the ANC

  • steve.mata.921 - 2013-02-14 15:04

    this is just unbelievable a tragedy only god knows

  • johan.germishuys.1 - 2013-02-14 15:05

    This is not a race situation so the people must stop being pitty, I firmly believe either black or white - if you kill and found guilty you should get the death penalty.

  • warwick.bristow - 2013-02-14 15:05

    Everyone needs to hold their judgements till they know the absolute facts. If he is guilty he must face the full might of the law. Its not about race it is about justice.

  • karin.devereuxrackley - 2013-02-14 15:17

    You all need some schooling, learn to spell and then maybe you will get your message across and it will be understandable....... Just saying. Oscar must be judged by our criminal court and face the outcome of his actions

      hanlie.joubert.7 - 2013-02-14 15:25

      Amen

      Yandisa Rwaai - 2013-02-14 16:00

      Its funny how you people like to measure cognitive through English spelling or Grammar!!! We have a good six more languages to worry about besides English can you people say the same for yourselves !!!

  • luvosdaoptimal - 2013-02-14 15:31

    Someone pass hin vaseline. Another SA star in murder. The law must act on him.

  • ray.molekoa.5 - 2013-02-14 15:36

    Now Beukes and his clowns are going to rubbish the whole situation for the media to make up for their incompetence in investigating properly . They are going to say things that are going to force them to be biased against the truth , as always . 9 times out of 10 they manipulate the truth to achieve a conviction , based on lies .

  • talana.malherbe - 2013-02-14 15:49

    All couples have arguments, we all have domestic incidents or arguments with our loved ones, let's not judge before we have facts.

  • rasthami.m1 - 2013-02-14 15:59

    He shot the girl in cold blood why call an incident !

  • rasthami.m1 - 2013-02-14 16:13

    4 times ?! haaibo ...we really live in a sick society

      Mapule Radebe - 2013-02-14 18:19

      he was killing her definitely why didnt he fire warning shot 4 times ge.

  • taryn.v.gelder - 2013-02-14 16:28

    I can not believe how pathetic most of u ppl are being. It's Innocent until proven Guilty! U all have no idea what happened so u should all calm down. I bet every person that is complaining here stood behind Oscar when he was at the Olympics, now u wanna turn ur back on him and play the race card. This is exactly why this country is failing.

      Khomotso D Maake - 2013-02-14 16:35

      i don't give a DAMN what u oscar's worshipers are saying. he pulled the trigger, and that's a fact, not an allegation. he's going down like all murderers. i like the chap as a sports hero but he's a social vampire. i bet he'll be convicted. u live by the gun... At least he won't face the primitive apartheid firing squad. lucky him.

      fnxusani - 2013-02-14 17:49

      And now he is guilty until proven innocent!!!!you can stand by him by making this country ungovernAble!!by burning tires!!

  • Khomotso D Maake - 2013-02-14 16:46

    Another racist in the form of Dumb Duncan. U can't crucify Oscar cos he's white, right? He's one of your own. But if we replace him with another black character , in this tragic drama like, like Mpho or Sello then that's ok for a poor black man to be crucified. Right? u whites are, in your majority, still racists. Face it and be ashamed of yourselves. At least i can face the truth and say it out LOUD with integrity.

      duncan.colter - 2013-02-14 17:18

      Yet here you are, trying (desperately so) to make some personal point. What that point is, well perhaps even you don't know. I must say, I am rather impressed at how much of a response that has been provoked using the word ''racist'' My comments have been objective and used no racist terms (unlike those I am commenting on) and the common response is racist insults and the like. Without any credible argument, all that's achieved by insulting me and further use of racist abuse is proving me right and validating all I type. Who is dumb now?

      reshoketjwe.levin - 2013-02-14 19:39

      We don't know wat happened or was happening but my big question y two shots ?

  • Flaughty - 2013-02-14 17:11

    Totally a Sad day for most. Passing my Blessings to The Steenkamp Family. One can only imagine the emotion they're going through. Their lives has certainly changed from this Day onwards. Really Sad.

  • KUSTAMK - 2013-02-14 17:29

    If I could turn back the hands of time, i`d put all you racist bustards commenting here infront of those 4 bullets and save that girl. Too bad news 24 is stuck with you.mxm

  • Derek - 2013-02-14 17:37

    question - do we know what time she was shot? Surely there would be a record of when she entered the estate? CCTV? I'm assuming you have to go through security when you enter? When I lived in SA, the estate I lived in, notified you via intercom that someone was on their way to see you or you could only enter via intercom. Just asking, as I have no idea what type of security they have!

  • veritas.odium.paret - 2013-02-14 18:15

    I've super-glued my new phone's battery over the SIM card to make sure muggers @tlist can't sell it or use it after they take it from me. #OscarCouldn'tHaveDoneItIntentionally

  • george.pito - 2013-02-14 19:57

    Must say very so much different and so much the same as the Jub Jub case. The problem is fame. He was young so was Jub Jub. Jub Jub drunk and racing no intention to kill. Oscar young probably anger as women can do. But then he was 26 she 30. Despite that you simply dont fire at anybody without making dead sure. He was not in the army and got a license for the firearm, has no legs and woke up. The facts will be point blank, side shots, front, back. Gate movement did she come in early the morning. Did she sleep over or stay with him. Most people before you get a firearm invest in an alarm to wake you up. Sorry it just dont look good for him

  • lorna.davids.58 - 2013-02-14 20:37

    This is not a race issue. All the celebrities tweety sympathy messages about South Africa being dangerous are making asses of themselves. This man has history of violent behaviour. Reeva herself called police before. He is also a sore loser. Has shown psychotic behavour. He shot her four times. The fact she was shot in the hands could show she tried to protect herself. This is not about white or black, cripple or not, gun laws or not. He shot her because he is violent and had no control of a situation. It might even be premeditated. Only a trail will tell.

      charlene.taylor.758 - 2013-02-14 20:41

      A m e n

  • piet.geldenhuys.5 - 2013-02-14 20:43

    Hoe sit jy jouself in sy voetspore of skoene?

  • piet.geldenhuys.5 - 2013-02-14 20:44

    Sit jouself in sy skoene! Hoe trap jy in daai spore?

  • piet.geldenhuys.5 - 2013-02-14 20:58

    Vir die interessantheid: hoeveel mense is die afgelope 3 weke vermoor in ons land? Hoeveel misdaad is de afgelope 3 jaar gepleeg? Is ons president 'n voorbeeld vir ons? Is ons gatvol vir misdaad en korrupsie?

  • mdluli.vusi - 2013-02-14 22:26

    How do you mistake a white blonde chick for a baglar.i didnt know that you guys are also into house breaking.Competition is getting tough hey.

  • warren.mark.92 - 2013-02-14 22:50

    He thought he would get away with it,they must lock him up and thow away the key,we don't want O J simpson repeats

  • witness.sombhane - 2013-02-15 05:54

    If its a mistake then what????????????

  • JenniferMoller13 - 2013-02-15 07:37

    The story that the shooting was accidental didn't come from the police, and Oscar and his lawyers haven't released a statement yet....so where did the story come from? Was it a media invention or assumption because no one wants to believe this was murder? I hope that justice prevails and the truth comes out, whatever it is. A tragedy no matter what happened. RIP Reeva

  • Moonsie - 2013-02-15 07:56

    From what I read in the Beeld, and what I understood from it, he was awake at the time. The intruder story was spread as a rumour and not as a fact. He shot her through the bathroom door. In other words: they were having an argument, she locked herself in the bathroom and he shot through the door and maybe did not realize the bullets would go through

  • littlegiantn - 2013-02-15 08:26

    A twist in the tail, a rich paraplegic living alone...with no special security gadgets and re-enforced security doors???? Initial police ivestigation says there was no forced entry.....what does mean? How many people and family members did he give his house keys to? Don't you ask "Who's there" before taking any action? In other words Warn them first before shooting them...Probably the girlfriend was already inside the house, just a thought.

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