E Cape universities turn away 60 000

2012-02-01 10:05

East London - The hopes of more than 60 000 students were dashed when the four universities in the Eastern Cape turned away more than 75% of applicants, the Daily Dispatch reported on Wednesday.

In total, the four universities received 76 966 applications for 16 767 places, turning away 60 199 prospective students.

The numbers were provided by the Walter Sisulu University (WSU), Nelson Mandela Metropolitan University, Rhodes University and the University of Fort Hare.

The Dispatch reported the WSU had a handful of places open for national diplomas in information technology and accounting, which required advanced mathematics, but every other place in the province was taken.

The only places still available for first year students were for national diplomas in information technology and accounting, said WSU spokesperson Angela Church.

"The minimum entry requirement for both is level four in mathematics and accounting. All other programmes are full and have waiting lists."

She said the university received 22 000 first-year applications, but could only accommodate 6 329 students.

A Green Paper on proposals to overhaul the education system was released earlier this month by Higher Education Minister Blade Nzimande.

The paper is aimed at changing the post-school education system by increasing university enrolment and expanding Further Education and Training Colleges.

In January, a woman was killed in a stampede at the University of Johannesburg, where prospective students were queuing for last-minute applications.

  • Bob - 2012-02-01 10:16

    This is not how you build a future prosperous country!

      Peter - 2012-02-01 10:46

      I would love to know just how many good academics they turned away, people with dedication to further their lives, and how many people they let through just purely based on skin color. Lets be realistic...with such a high drop out rate, are these guys really here to learn? or is just one day in Uni. enough to land a street sweeper a high ranking/paying job at Luthuli House?

      Nosiphom - 2012-02-01 10:54

      @Peter I think your comment on the high dropout rate is at best ill informed. The problem is at high school. I have looked at text books and other learner material for Grade 12, it is written very simplistically (large text, easy english, very little material). The focus if just to make the pupils pass because there is a lot of focus on the matric results - a huge hoha from everyone. Then you look at the text books at first year varsity - small text, many thick books a lot of material to absorb and no one to follow you around whether you are studying or not. The jump is huge, and many cannot do it, hence the drop out rate. Should we make varsity easy as well - NO, we should be realistic at lower grades. Increase the pass mark, have a lower matric Pass rate. We should be content with having a 10% exemption rate, then we would not have to turn away 60 000 applicants as we would have fewer applicant. Stop racialising the situation, there is nothing about race here. We cannot build the country by clutching at race at every opportunity!

      Dirk - 2012-02-01 11:00

      What can you expect if the standards of matriculation has virtually collapsed and it has become almost impossible to fail. Before adjustment , upwards of course, of the marks, 59.22 % of "learners" failed maths, 53,41% Physical Science, 57,3% Economics and 51,1% Accounting. So, what on earth do all these thousands want to go and study? Sums, social engineering or activism?(Majoring in Advanced Theft III and Affirmative Accounting III)

      Peter - 2012-02-01 11:22

      @Nosiphom: Thanks...I think you missing my general point though (sorry, my humor is rather silly). How is a country, that had/has all the infrastructure, and well on its way to becoming a first world country, in the past 18 years been frowned a pon, and foreign investors have pulled their business OUT of the country, out of pure fear that their investments are going to be lost? I understand your point. Someone left a comment further down the line, about there not being a new university in the past 18 years. All the BILLIONS that the ANC led municipalities have absolutely wasted on rubbish, could have rather gone to building a Xhosa/Zulu or whatever national language, that SPECIALIZES in your language. Hence the fact, better education, in your mother tongue. Rather than going to a University that have a lot of experience, and abide by that for the better education of the learner to be a leader. I dont mean to come across racist, but you have to look at the bigger picture and focus on what exactly the ANC have really done. One cannot sit back and say they are doing a good job. They have effed many things up, from education to tenders.

      Nosiphom - 2012-02-01 11:31

      Understood Peter ! One point where I must disagree with you is where you equate mother toungue education to good education. That experiment, if it fails, will unfortunately only affect the balck child, so those who want their childresn to be guinea pigs, go ahead and have Zulu/ Xhosa universities, I am not going to let my child be played around with. It is exactly such argumanets that defocus us from addressing the real situation. Whislt we are discussing the language issues, other countries, Botswana, Zimbabwe, Lesotho, Swaziland, Namibia, Zambia, - countries with much less resources like us are excelling in Maths and science !

      Peter - 2012-02-01 11:50

      So where is the problem? Lowering grade pass rates - doesnt work. A person who doesn't have the required IQ to be in charge of millions of people's lives, is a BIG no-no, but yet its happening. To have a country that works, you will need politicians that have a love for the people that they have under their wing (at the moment, its all about the power and money, no interest in human life or well-being). BEE (as much as I understand the concept), DOESN'T WORK either. The list goes on and on and on with the complete failures of such listings. dont get me wrong, I agree that their should be more black people in power, but for heavens sake, let them ACHIEVE it...obviously the people who work hard enough, deserve those postings. Take the Mayor of Tshwane for instance...that dude is RIDDLED with problems and lies, and nothing gets done about it. The carpet of which he government sweeps all its stuff ups under, must be an incredible hell hole. Creating a mother tongue university is essential! everything else has been tried and tested, so why not that? The government really needs to stop taking away what is, and focus on what could be.

  • Ryan - 2012-02-01 10:20

    Going to university used to be a privilege for those who worked hard in High School AND managed to get accepted. Now, going to university is just another "Gold Star" on your cv....nothing fancy.

  • Johan - 2012-02-01 10:25

    The 75% should probably not be there anyway.

      Dirk - 2012-02-01 11:02

      You are right, but the wrong ones (25%) are there, and not on merit

  • Brett - 2012-02-01 10:26

    Oh well, the government would rather spend on celebrations and fraudulent tenders than build universities. Funny thing is, those that were turned away will still vote ANC come election time...

  • Ian - 2012-02-01 10:27

    so in 18 years not a single new university has been built... but many a new BMW/Mercedez/Fighter Plane(and the list goes on... and on...) have been acquired... Great to see we have our priorities right. #sarcasm

      nspaynter - 2012-02-01 10:38

      Don't forget the two new passenger jets for the President.....

      Peter - 2012-02-01 10:52

      Good point, Ian

      Nosiphom - 2012-02-01 11:32

      And yet we strive to produce more and more matrics!

      Brigitte - 2012-02-01 14:58

      I have heard that they want to build a Uni in Mpumalanga but the 'chiefs' are all arguing about the 'kickback' to build on 'their' land! That is why they moved the KMIA airport to where it is now as well. So corruption really is at the root of all evil!

  • lindz.kok - 2012-02-01 10:37

    yip thats how south africa broadens the gap between the super rich and the extremely poor, well the anc. so the stupid will stay stupid but hey atleast they have pc's and internet to make stupid remarks on sites like this one lol

      Schalk - 2012-02-01 12:37

      The ANC has to keep the masses stupid else they will not vote for them...

  • paul.coetzee1 - 2012-02-01 10:39

    This is hardly suprizing. The standard of matric exams (University exemp) has been lowered so much that every Joe Soap and his dog can qualify for university. Even Julius would most likely pass woodwork if he rewrote his exams now.

      paul.coetzee1 - 2012-02-01 10:41


  • nspaynter - 2012-02-01 10:40

    What about UNISA?

      Peter - 2012-02-01 12:09

      they wouldnt want to burn and break things in their own houses

  • Dwerg - 2012-02-01 10:43

    Soooo many problems illustrated in this one article. 60 199 scholars that managed to pass (I Assume) and not have level 4 maths and accounting? I say make Maths and Physical Science mandatory and work toward that as an objective. "We need the skills" is the plea, but they expect it to just happen

      Kelina - 2012-03-25 10:35

      I don't agree that you need to do maths and science at all. If you have an idea of the direction you want to go into like journalism for example you may not need those subjects. I just believe that people need to do well in the subjects you have chosen to do. I do think maths is needed to some extent and maths literacy does give that to people who will not need core maths in the future. I have friends doing degrees that took maths literacy and they are by no means stupid just not maths inclined and as such have followed a path that doesn't require core maths. However, science is really not a must as I didn't do it and I'm on my way to a BCom Accounting degree. I think aside from education we need good career counselling so that people can work at their strengths.

  • Blip - 2012-02-01 10:46

    It would be really interesting to know what their admissions criteria were and on what basis the lucky ones were admitted.

  • Sharon - 2012-02-01 10:49

    Well Mr J Zuma justify the 10m you spent on those jets to shadow you, no space in any university for your masses, which means more poverty. GOOD LUCK you POOR sheepole

  • Marius - 2012-02-01 10:51

    The irony is that the ANC are actually busy implementing Verwoerd's education policies of "Keep them ignorant, we need workers not graduates".

      lindz.kok - 2012-02-01 10:54

      ha ha ha sooooo true!!!

  • Thembelihle Derrick Shezi - 2012-02-01 11:06

    I wish that our government can use these numbers to justify building a new university or build capacity in existing ones to cater for more student numbers. 60 000 is a huge number not to notice (ignore). Now we know, so no one can blame ignorance.

      lindz.kok - 2012-02-01 11:13

      the main problym is this country can have universitys able to acomidate millions but if you have a inability to cary through with an education on a high leve,l all that will happen in the end is that the south african university degree will become no more than an intenational high school deploma. mind you it already is

      TaniaSandraSteyn - 2012-02-02 12:37

      We need more Agricultural and Technical Colleges where students can learn practical skills that will ensure them a job in the future. Not everyone can be doctors and lawyers.

  • lmapheto - 2012-02-01 11:14

    Poor management both at basic and higher education, where is Blade and Angie? whos fooling who hierso?

  • Trevor - 2012-02-01 11:21

    Look, the ANC WANTS to keep it's voter stupid and poor, that way it can control what it sees as it's own,SA. We have this "democracy" in SA that is purely a smoke screen because in reality, the ANC will ALWAYS be the majority party and any resistance to their policies are met with legislation changes like the Secrecy Bill and the mother of all attackes, RACE CARD, that scares most non blacks into submission and incites the black majority. Why would the ANC want to educate it the majorty, already it has a problem with Black Educated citizens because they are intelligent enough to know that we are ALL being milked dry and lied to by the ANC, if they vote say DA the ANC lables them as counter revolutionary or sellouts or the Ancestors will be upset at short, it's not in the ANC's interest to educate, they want the majority of their voters to remain reliant on welfare and thus remain compliant and this will never change,big business is also going this route, likes of Eskom,PetroSA...etc,,running beyond 100% capacity meaning big bonus's for the Boss's and holding the country to randsom thus justifying HUGE hikes in services and taxes to "build" new infrastracture that we ALREADY being taxed for....roads a classic example...ignore race,ignore the struggle and look where we are & where we are heading to....a South African Zim outcome has become a reality now.

      Nick - 2012-02-01 18:48

      I have been saying exactly, what you have now said, a number of times. Keep your voting pool uninformed, uneducated and gullable and you will be in power for ever. Please guys let's try and change this.

  • Vuyolwethu - 2012-02-01 13:26

    What about Rhodes University?

  • acsteyn - 2012-02-02 16:07

    Well is it not a blessing that the students did so badly. Imagine if they did really well?

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