Education needs improvement - Motshekga

2012-07-19 13:27

Johannesburg - There is much needed to be done to improve the quality of education in South Africa, said Basic Education Minister Angie Motshekga in Johannesburg on Thursday.

"Poverty... is a major barrier to education," Motshekga said at an SA Human Rights Commission (SAHRC) workshop on the charter of basic education rights.

The need for accurate baseline information was pivotal to measure progress and monitoring, she said.

In a speech prepared for delivery, Motshekga said South Africa's Constitution through the Bill of Rights put children first and government was unflinching in its commitment to education.

She said the involvement of stakeholders in drawing up the charter was important, and her department and the SAHRC needed further engagement regarding the details of the charter.

She said the department was "very willing" to continue working with the SAHRC on the charter.

  • Johnnys_Place - 2012-07-19 13:35

    Dear Mrs Motshekga. We already know this. The question remains at what you are going to do about this ?

      Andres - 2012-07-19 13:44

      Agreed. It's a "no sh*t Sherlock" moment. Enough 'understanding' problems and 'identifying' issues. Freekin' do something about it! Fire those involved in EduSolutions contracts, get rid of incompetent officials, declare Education an essential service, bring in performance-based-pay, show poor principals the door. Most importantly, spend the massive Dept. of Education budget wisely. We spend the most per-capita on Education in Sub-Saharan African, with NOTHING to show for it.

      JaredVN - 2012-07-19 13:45

      The best thing would be for the cause of 99% of all incompetence and decay, the cANCer, to lose an election. Failing that, this incompetent cadre can do education a huge service by resigning forthwith.

      jackal666.daniel - 2012-07-19 13:48

      Yip too much talk and too little action this ret@rd needs to be fired!

      sean.lambie.3 - 2012-07-19 13:55

      @Motshekga - Quit and you`ll do education a favour !

      james.rossouw - 2012-07-19 13:58

      Largely due to Genetics and partly due to advantages in nurturing that cannot be redistributed by Govt. people differ in aptitudes.

      nrgx.nrg - 2012-07-19 14:13

      ...privatise education, in fact we should privatise every facet that the government has a hand in. We dont need a government anyways, they do NOTHING but steal our money and party. they say nationalise...i say privatise!

      burtfred.brown - 2012-07-19 14:14

      Angie, the first step towards improving education is to fire you and your crooked DG. The second step is to get rid of the appalling, inept ANC government.

      ianon.ym - 2012-07-19 14:33

      "Education needs improvement - Motshekga", understatement of the decade.

      captaine.morgan.90 - 2012-07-19 14:53

      I cant believe she says I am not in charge of the Education crisis in the country, cos she's merely a policy maker. What rubbish is that? We elect these politicians into power for mainly, service delivery. Grrr.

      alf.pop - 2012-07-19 18:09

      What she does best: find somebody to blame for her stuff-ups! The major barrier to education is not poverty, but incompetent, thick, arrogant and ignorant ministers, too corrupt to do the right thing and resign, because the gravytrain is still moving! Get rid of her! She is the Manto Tshabalala Msimang of Education!

      bernpm - 2012-07-19 21:55

      Do not forget that this lady was MEC Education in Gauteng for a few years before her "promotion" to National and her husband is ANC speaker in Parliament. Nothing can go wrong here, whatever the outcome.

  • kobus.hattingh.5 - 2012-07-19 13:36

    I would like to suggest the biggest improvement Angie and that is that you should resign effective immediately!

      jackal666.daniel - 2012-07-19 13:51

      Can one fourth it?

      devon.riley.52 - 2012-07-19 14:01

      She has been minister of basic education for 3 years, and that's the best she has to offer us. "Education needs improvment" LOL. The government throws more money at education than any of the other BRICS countries. Education is now in the worst state ever so Angie go F** yourself

      peter.krummeck.3 - 2012-07-19 14:03

      I hundredth it!

      deon.louw.7505 - 2012-07-19 14:12

      I agree.

      scebberish.umfazi - 2012-07-19 14:59

      Angie, Angie, when will those clouds all disappear? Angie, Angie, where will it lead us from here? With no loving in our souls and no money in our coats, You can't say we're satisfied But Angie, Angie, you can't say we never tried Angie, you're beautiful, but ain't it time we said goodbye? (courtesy Mick Jagger & Keith Richards)

  • Allan - 2012-07-19 13:36

    Education is the only way out of poverty. As the minister of basic education you are responsible that this happens so stop your excuses and do something about it! If you don't know how resign and let someone who does know take your place.

  • msendi - 2012-07-19 13:37

    Shut up and improve it… If officials can practice what they always preach, South Africa can be a first world country in ten years…

      scebberish.umfazi - 2012-07-19 13:40

      Ten leap years perhaps.

      Erna - 2012-07-19 14:34

      If they just follow all their own policies, things would improve hundredfold.

  • Willie - 2012-07-19 13:38

    "department was "very willing" to continue working with the SAHRC " since when the goverment willing to listen to any one except the so-called educated well informed diciplined cadres of the movement.I suggest this improvement thing needs to start with you Mrs Minister

  • ann.murray.9279 - 2012-07-19 13:38

    YOU DON'T SAY! - Angie, just face facts - you are not fulfilling your obligations to provide education to the masses. Education is their constitutional right, so I guess you better start by having a look at the way you run your department. Our education system is a disgrace. You talk about 'poverty' - all those young minds are like sponges and are willing to absorb about any-and-everything. Stop making excuses - the ANC is failing those who they have promised to assist. Perhaps it is time for the 'self-enrichment' to stop and the 'fulfillment of your duties and promises to the masses who unfailingly vote this sorry government in with all the empty promises every time there is an election. PUT YOUR MONEY WHERE YOUR MOUTH IS AND STOP MAKING EXCUSES!!! THAT GOES FOR ALL PORTFOLIOS WHERE DISMAL FAILURE IS SO EVIDENT!

  • thutothegreat - 2012-07-19 13:39

    "government was unflinching in its commitment to education." what did I miss?

      Boos - 2012-07-19 13:52

      A corpse is also 'unflinching' ....

  • LanfearM - 2012-07-19 13:40

    Really?! You only realised that NOW?! How about starting with first getting school books delivered not only to the bereft Limpopo, but always, all over the country, to all schools, in December already for the next year, so that the books are there in January when the children start with school. Secondly, why don't you just resign? And take that useless Blade with you. Why must we reel like a drunken sailor from one pathetic education minister to the next? Kadar Asmal f*ck$d up the system and the rest just continue in his fallen footsteps. What a farce! Perhaps the ANC and co. don't *want* people educated. The more educated people are, the more questions they ask and the less lies they believe. They also have a nasty tendency to start thinking for themselves when they are educated.

      hrh.majiuana - 2012-07-19 14:29

      well said Lanfear

  • mark.haupt.31 - 2012-07-19 13:44

    Ain't you the observant one, considering it's your department, your responsibility and your job? I think you miss the point of being THE MINISTER IN CHARGE - it's not about telling us what we already know, it's about doing something about it. When are you going to start?

  • njdejager - 2012-07-19 13:44

    What a retarded statement. She slower than her department. Why does the ministers always put out statements that confirm the obvious??? Waste of space.

  • scebberish.umfazi - 2012-07-19 13:47

    "Poverty... is a major barrier to education," Conversely; "Barriers to education .... is a major cause of Poverty"

      ann.murray.9279 - 2012-07-19 13:51

      Well said!!

      Erna - 2012-07-19 14:36

      Poverty has nothing to do with it - there is sufficient money to supply schooling, but the officials who manage the money are the ones who benefit. - 2012-07-19 14:57

      stealing the children's future today

      rob.tubbs.39 - 2012-07-19 18:46

      Well said mate. Pity you could not fill that post...

  • vmeiring1 - 2012-07-19 13:47

    What in this country does not need improvement????????

      scebberish.umfazi - 2012-07-19 14:54

      The worldcup football stadiums?

  • carl.debeer.33 - 2012-07-19 13:49

    OMW! 18 yrs into Democracy...and then she says a speech that was "prepared for delivery".

  • Boos - 2012-07-19 13:50

    This education system needs improvement - just to get it back to the standard it was before the ANC took over... *facepalm*

  • kmaruma - 2012-07-19 13:53

    Why is she still in the office

      Boos - 2012-07-19 13:55

      1) Because she's part of the ANC and 2) The colour of her skin might have something to do with it

  • Henk - 2012-07-19 13:54

    vat jou goed en f- of! You are useless Angie!

  • Tishan - 2012-07-19 13:55

    Ok once again.,.. does anyone have any good ideas or suggestions on how to improve our education system. when last did you take an interest in your kids home work or visit the school ( parent days doesnt count). go and see the teachers and find out your kids behaviour and school work. dont comment unless u you got constructive critism and a solution. stop acting like kids.. you adults.. so what as parents are you going to about it

      Erna - 2012-07-19 14:38

      Parents helping children have got nothing to do with the fact that books aren't delivered, that there are no facilities, that there are no responsible teachers, that there is no transport, ...... Need I go on?

      Willie - 2012-07-19 14:50

      Ooooh Tishan please man the minister talks about so many issues that are irrelevent.She talks about poverty but she doesn't deliver books to the poor.our budget for education is enormous but is not been used properly the large chunk of it, pockets of cadres

      Tishan - 2012-07-19 15:04

      poverty has alot to play in this. parent dont have time to monitor their kids school work, they too busy making ends meet. if you leave home at 5 to catch a taxi to work and come back at 7 you too tired to do anything.

  • michael.howard.9862 - 2012-07-19 13:55

    Amazing how these O's continually point out the obviously without implementing change!

  • avanwyk2 - 2012-07-19 13:57

    It is going to take lots of years if the responsible person do mot want to take responsibility. Did u deliver the books yet Angie?

      Erna - 2012-07-19 14:39

      They hadn't been delivered on my way to work this morning.

  • tony.naidoo - 2012-07-19 13:58

    Haaaw minister, surely you cant be serious! Don't you realise that it is easier to lie to the masses if they are un/undereducated? The meek shall rise! Sekhunjalo ke nako!

  • marisa.williams.7 - 2012-07-19 13:59

    Need a new minister of basic education, otherwise she have to get HER act together as well. 3rd Term and learners without books, and still sitting under trees.... not good enough. Does she ever meet with her staff in the provinces to see what is needed.. makes a person think:-(

  • john.morreira.9 - 2012-07-19 14:00

    You got it the wrong way round."Lack of education,creates poverty" Education first.

  • Gavin - 2012-07-19 14:00

    wow, talk about a predilection for stating the f'ing OBVIOUS !! every morning ANC members get up and look at themselves in the mirror wondering how they can solve SA's problems - not realizing that they are staring the problem in the face...

  • jaun.lombard.9 - 2012-07-19 14:00

    Shouldn't Education be lead by a good leader or the best qualified person in a Country? What makes her the best at her JOB!! I believe there is lectures at University that can do a better job!!

  • ntunjab - 2012-07-19 14:00

    Shut up Angie Mudsucker please!

  • Abram - 2012-07-19 14:01

    unflinching to its commitment to eduction except in limpopo ne

      scebberish.umfazi - 2012-07-19 15:04

      and Eastern Cape

  • phumi.ntlabati - 2012-07-19 14:02

    There minister is raising an important point in education. It is the same point that the former president Thabo Mbeki raised about the issue of health in this country. That elephent in the room is a legacy problem of apartheird and colonisation called 'poverty'. It is this truth that the neoliberals from the paler section of our community want us to shy away from. It does not matter what efforts our government is putting these structural problems caused by this legacy are going to be amongst us for years to come. There is no single person with a magical wand who can wish this problem away!

      peter.krummeck.3 - 2012-07-19 14:10

      The problem will be resolved when people like you stop playing the victim and get pro-active.

      rob.baggaley - 2012-07-19 14:14

      Overbreeding without the financial means to support offspring is a major contribution to poverty all over the world. Yet it continues @ an alarming rate and particuarly in third world countries and amongst our very own " people of the soil. " The paler section in this country & world wide appear to have had this problem under control for many years now & reap the benefits of having smaller families to care for. The rest, just dont appear to have caught on yet or are selfishly reproducing due to culture. Shame on you.

      scebberish.umfazi - 2012-07-19 15:06

      I see, yes, so how does that explain the rest of Africa? The only correlation I see is the same gene pool, not apartheid.

  • LDivaCantrelle - 2012-07-19 14:03

    "Poverty... is a major barrier to education," Motshekga said" ...well it should have said "Motshekga... is a major barrier to education,"... this Hippo must go...

  • TheyTookMyNickLaZynEko - 2012-07-19 14:05


  • mpho.galane1 - 2012-07-19 14:06

    The only improvement our Education need is ur re-signature from Parlament n especially ur name must not be mentioned again close to education.

  • andtowns - 2012-07-19 14:07

    Maybe start with delivering text books on time

  • bomb.technician.5 - 2012-07-19 14:16

    So whats been happening the last 18 years????????????????????

  • wisani.mathonsi1 - 2012-07-19 14:18

    Poverty... is a major barrier to education," Motshekga said at an SA Human Rights Commission (SAHRC) workshop on the charter of basic education rights. ==================== Thats why we must nationalise, so that poverty can be a thing of a past, Kids are not motivated to go to school as some their background is poor. Only NATIONALISATION WILL SOLVE OUR PEOPLE'S POVERTY

      Henk - 2012-07-19 14:30

      You already own 60% of this country IDIOT!!! Go and ask the government that you elected!

      ahenriquesfernandes - 2012-07-19 14:32

      How will that solve anything? Education is the solution to poverty. If you get given everything you won't learn how to get anything. There is a saying that goes liek this... "Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime."

      wisani.mathonsi1 - 2012-07-19 14:38

      @henk.jansevanyo, who do you call an idiot? I guess it takes one to see one. Bitter moron.

      scebberish.umfazi - 2012-07-19 15:09

      He was NOT calling you and idiot, he was just stating the obvious!

      wisani.mathonsi1 - 2012-07-19 15:16

      @umfazi, he he, you clowning not. You love attention ne?

      leon.vonsolms - 2012-07-19 16:34

      You think nationalisation is the answer to poverty? What happened in the previous communist countries? Go and live in China my friend and work as a slave in a factory.

  • steve.ritchie.739 - 2012-07-19 14:21

    This woman really does not have a clue. She is like a torn condom, no use to anyone. One is left to wonder how she has the gall to stand there and make that "prepared speech." Bet she didn't even understand what she was reading. The SAHRC should be making a lot of noise about education, health, corruption, etc. Is it another toothless organisation.? Go away Angie, you are doing the children no favours much the same as your cANCer government is doing to it's own people and the country as a whole.

  • neil.tyler.54 - 2012-07-19 14:21

    Lets start by getting the books to the kids.

  • winifred.watson.9 - 2012-07-19 14:23

    After all this time the arrogant miss has finally woken up to the fact that education needs improvement. Now tell us what you have been doing all this time in office. My guess, your backside on the chair and feet up on the desk. You and your underlings need to do the education dept justice by quietly closing the door behind you. You have stuffed up good missy and been caught with your panties around your ankles. If the government to redeploy you to MINISTER OF DEAD WOOD.

  • ahenriquesfernandes - 2012-07-19 14:24

    How does poverty stop textbooks from going from location A to location B?

  • Siphiwo - 2012-07-19 14:27

    Another political statement. Can we just stop walking on fence for once and hit the road running? For 18 years explaining poverty as a barrier to education?....I am sure Angie, you, yourself can see that, this statemnt you are making, is a mockery in the extreme.

  • hrh.majiuana - 2012-07-19 14:27

    Dear Hon Minister, A stone would also be capable of telling you that. Resign now and use that money for a face and dental job in Cuba.

      Willie - 2012-07-19 14:53

      do not be personal debate about the issue, other wise you intelligent comment will amount to nothing Boet

  • BigChiefPlumbPudding - 2012-07-19 14:27

    Talk talk talk talk....................

  • Revelgen - 2012-07-19 14:28

    Angie - you are the weakest link in education. Goodbye.

  • dirk.short.9 - 2012-07-19 14:28

    In an article published on titled 'Greatest lesson of all: schools can triumph', Prof Jonathan Jansen provides proof that ALL schools can succeed. He spent a day with schools from disadvantaged communities from the 9 provinces - and what they had in common was hard work which brings success. Some had a 100% Grade 12 pass rate for a number of years. According to the Prof: "For every school, one thing stood out: leadership matters. The principal drove change with his or her teachers. There was a strong and singular sense of mission - "the children come first". The communities / parents play a roll too. Which brings us back to what our dear politicians are saying: excuses, excuses, excuses!

  • ken.grimblegrumble - 2012-07-19 14:28

    Angie should resign NOT BECAUSE she doesn't understand what is required, NOT BECAUSE she doesn't have the answers. She must resign BECAUSE she isn't allowed to do her job. Ask Helen, she will tell you Angie isn't bad. The problem is politics. She isn't allowed to implement grading of teachers or fire incompetent education officials because of upsetting branch members and SADTU. Zuma doesn't want to ruffle any feathers before voting for ANC president is over. She cannot win, therefore she must resign.

      Erna - 2012-07-19 14:41

      Even more reason to vote for another party.

  • jacobus.m.vantonder - 2012-07-19 14:29

    Said the one which can even run her own department.....

      jacobus.m.vantonder - 2012-07-19 14:30

      sorry missed the "can't" not can, def not..!!!!!

  • Sakhiwo - 2012-07-19 14:30

    Let's give her a chance====look how she spent her 67min, in classroom teaching English.She knows what she's doing people

      Erna - 2012-07-19 14:42

      Being able to teach doesn't mean you can be minister of education - it needs a little more than teaching skills.

      nbula1 - 2012-07-19 17:13

      Not @da expense of our children

  • kaizerjuly - 2012-07-19 14:31

    No doubt and that improvent it needs is ur dismisal

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  • vivian.harris.73 - 2012-07-19 14:35

    No s*** hey! And we can improve it by getting rid of people like u that don't really do anything and the poverty bit...well tell ur friends in the government that they must stop stealing and spending the money meant to uplift the people.

  • marthinus.stander.3 - 2012-07-19 14:35

    Poverty is not the problem you and your incompetent department are!!!! Next week it will be the apartheid regime, then colonialism, then the settlers, Oh we cant Bart Diaz!!!Why is it never you???

  • frack.dat.5 - 2012-07-19 14:38

    Not sure if educating the electorate is in the ANC's interests.