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Eight in 10 South Africans black - Census

2012-10-30 10:03

Cape Town - Almost eight in every 10 people in South Africa are black, according to the 2011 Census results, released on Tuesday.

About 41 million people described themselves as black; 4.62 million as coloured; 4.59 million as white; and 1.3 million as Indian or Asian, during the October 9 count last year.

In the previous census, in 2001, there were 35.4 million black people, 3.99 million coloureds, 1.1 million Indians or Asians, and 4.29 million whites.

For the first time in post-1994 census history, the number of people identifying themselves as coloured exceeds those describing themselves as white.

A total of 280 454 people listed themselves as "other" in the 2011 Census. According to census officials, this group includes a growing number of South Africans who refuse to classify themselves in terms of race or ethnicity.

The census reveals that so-called coloured people make up the largest population group in the Western Cape.

"Coloured people constitute the largest group in the Western Cape. Black people constitute the largest group in all other provinces," according to the document.

Comments
  • sanchez.sancho.7 - 2012-10-30 10:12

    what?? where did the white people go??

      sanda.mnyazi - 2012-10-30 10:16

      Australia my friend Australia

      gift.mushi.9 - 2012-10-30 10:19

      You were always a minority and you will always be.

      mikel.kiparski - 2012-10-30 10:22

      when AA and BEE came in the door they went out the WINDOW

      Pixi3kid - 2012-10-30 10:23

      wtf is wrong with this guy?? look at some of his others posts as well! geez dude we wish everyone a good education your argument makes no sense!

      gregory.hill.984 - 2012-10-30 10:24

      gift that was just a stupid thing to say, but glad made you feel important to type those words. You right we just a minority, so stop blamining the minority and taking what the minority work hard to build up, with so many millions of non minorities, you would think that maybe you guys could start building something for your selves. Other countries protect the minority, South Africa is the opposite, the majority wait for the minority to build something, then they say, we are the majority give us what you have.

      Jeremy - 2012-10-30 10:26

      Read the figures Sanchez. The number of whites has increased from 4.29m to 4.59m, but the percentage has dropped due to the more rapid rise in the numbers of black people

      sanchez.sancho.7 - 2012-10-30 10:27

      im black but again, black people spend most of their time having sex and making babies.

      lownabester - 2012-10-30 10:29

      You were always a minority and you will always be. Posted by gift.mushi, true, but the minority is keeping the country going. Without the minority this country would have been gone.

      goeie.jaarling - 2012-10-30 10:29

      So the 80\20 principal is stil valid, 20% of the population has all the brains and 80% has nothing. STOP THE SPAWNING!

      mariuskowie - 2012-10-30 10:32

      The white people went to where they are still able to earn a reasonable living. This census result should be a big eye opener to the current racist regime. They are causing South Africa to lose valuable skills and are not replacing the skills lost. The education system sucks. The educated are leaving. BEE and AA is punishing the remainder and the ones that really benefited from apartheid have left. How fair is this racist system really. Yes, I know the beneficiaries of AA will be severely criticizing this post.

      jack.blacking.56 - 2012-10-30 10:35

      @sanchez.sancho.7 Population census 1900: 2 Million Whites and 4 Million Blacks. Today: 5 Million White and 48+ Million Blacks

      jaco.bruwer.73 - 2012-10-30 10:54

      Let see: Number of Back people increase in 10 years = 5.6 Million (15.82%) Number of White people increase in 10 years = 300 000 (7%) So in 10 years Black People will be = 47.49 Million Whites People will be = 4.87 Million And they wonder how is it that so meanie black people are jobless. Also a other survey stated that in 150 years whites will be extinct in SA (includes English speaking People) So who will they blame for what is going wrong in the country.

      junebugg.kinte - 2012-10-30 11:23

      Chances of getting jungle fevered white girls are getting slimmer in South Africa,I should move to Germany.

      brian.connell.18 - 2012-10-30 11:46

      Gift Mushi - according to your FB profile you studied at Oxford. Surely, in order to study in England, you should at least be able to communicate in English. Methinks a bit of "poetic license" has been taken on your profile. We'd all like to see proof of your qualifications ..... unless your profile is pure fabrication, of course.

      bradley.liebenberg1 - 2012-10-30 12:12

      Well Gift, for the record this minority will continue to own and run everything, best you get used to that!

      koos.meyer.52 - 2012-10-30 13:00

      They don't breed likes flies e.g. Zuma and his 24 kids...

      thandiwe.ngema.71 - 2012-10-30 13:01

      The white population also grew but at a slower rate.

      gift.mushi.9 - 2012-10-30 13:20

      @ brian.connel Do u know anything about the slang terms? No. Ok. Send me your e-mail address, I will forward you the copies of qualifications.

      beverly.young3 - 2012-10-30 13:30

      LOl....they stopped breeding.

      Andrea - 2012-10-30 13:36

      gift, you are proof that being white is no prerequisite for being an in inbred hillbilly hick, you come in all colours.

      bibi.vanzyl - 2012-10-30 13:39

      @gift: I had to laugh at your ignorance. Libido does not equal more/less kids. You can have sex 20 times a day and still procreate in a responsible and safe way i.e. less children. More kids also do not give you financial freedom.

      somikazi.pita - 2012-10-31 00:17

      @ gregory, great again for you! It was never great for us...shame you must miss the good all days when you were a 'bass'...

  • warren.rodel - 2012-10-30 10:14

    what is the census on education?

      gift.mushi.9 - 2012-10-30 10:18

      Blacks are getting educated and nothing whites can do about it. Apartheid is gone and dusted. We have access to any University without fear of discrimination. That is what Census say about education.

      Pixi3kid - 2012-10-30 10:23

      Once again no one is standing in the way of blacks and education! AGAIN you make no sense.

      peter.ndamase - 2012-10-30 10:27

      Good point, that is the information i'm waiting for. The ANC is too ashamed to reveal their blunder.

      grootblou.bek - 2012-10-30 10:27

      @gift.mushi.9 The question remains. Are blacks getting educated or are they getting the qualification due to the standards being dropped? The standard of schools has dropped to the point where a Matric certificate means nothing.

      TheyTookMyNickLaZynEko - 2012-10-30 10:28

      'whites' aren't trying to do anything about it gift. thinking along the lines of skin color makes you a racist.

      jeanpaul.boje - 2012-10-30 10:30

      gift.mushi - It seems as though you were not among those that have access to education...

      jack.blacking.56 - 2012-10-30 10:37

      @gift.mushi.9 good for you, i'm happy that you guys have decided to learn something. But in the real world people get selected on merit not colour. Good luck

      peter.jefferies.90 - 2012-10-30 10:37

      @gift your a troll dude!! Yes, white people are by far the minority and yet we are subjected to AA and BEE! SA is the only counrty in the world where the minority is subjected to this kind of treatment. Oh and given the stats from your great ANC I am not so sure about blacks being educated. As far as I can see the ANC is doing everything in its poer to make sure this doesn't happen!

      andreviljoenjoubert - 2012-10-30 10:39

      Gift. I think the biggest wish on all whites, colourd and others minds are that blacks will get an education. For when they do they will see the ANC government for what it is. And they will also contribute positively to the country.There are plenty of educated blacks but the ANC doesn't care about the majority. Sad that you stand up for an party that doesn't give a flying duck about you.

      typersa.baddy - 2012-10-30 11:24

      @gift.mushi.9 - Nice engorish there you buffoon!!!

      Pixi3kid - 2012-10-30 11:30

      Mmm my reply removed! cant handle the true i see once again i say "Blacks are getting educated and nothing whites can do about it" ITS NOT THE WHITES BUT YOUR OWN GOVERNMENT STANDING IN YOUR WAY!! So YOU go get an education and open up your eye to what is really happening around you

      gift.mushi.9 - 2012-10-30 11:46

      @Pixi Kid Do you know history (Apartheid)? No. I asked you how old you are, no answer yet. I you 16 maybe? So I cannot have a debate with you, you are still raw.

      bradley.kecskes - 2012-10-30 12:50

      Do not let this rubbish bother you pixie...he has a inferiority complex.

      Pixi3kid - 2012-10-30 13:10

      He doesn't bother me at all... i think he is very entertaining.

      gift.mushi.9 - 2012-10-30 13:28

      @ Pixie the Kid and Bradley I don't discuss Politics with Kids maybe your parents because they know history. Late tonite while you having supper, please ask jou Ma or Pa about History? I can only assist you with Trigonometry when you reach Grade 12.

      Andrea - 2012-10-30 13:39

      Well, the blacks are getting free condoms at schools now, ask gift.mushi.9, he was born as a result of the failure to distribute said condoms YEARS ago already.

      Pixi3kid - 2012-10-30 14:35

      Everyone watch out!!! he knows big words but still calls me RAW. that is so funny i will never get over it.

      madmountain - 2012-10-30 19:53

      Sometimes, even if you have a gift, everything still comes out mushi.

  • wesley.bischoff - 2012-10-30 10:17

    Shows that the white population hasn't really grown much, yet the black population has grown by close to 7 million. Why is that?

      teddy.beer.319 - 2012-10-30 10:22

      S*x makes babies! But also, let us check if the population of Australia remained stagnant during the interval.

      MegaTesla - 2012-10-30 10:26

      It is simple really. Whites are having less kids.

      andreviljoenjoubert - 2012-10-30 10:45

      Less kids more money, better education for those few kids means better salaries. Which means better retirement for you as parent. The African mentality still want as many kids so they can take care of the parents when they are old. But this does not work as you end up with 10 kids with no education and no work. So they always stay in papas pocket.

      Msika - 2012-10-30 11:21

      Most whites are suffering from low libido, that's why.

      andreviljoenjoubert - 2012-10-30 13:13

      Zuma has 20 kids. If his kids follow in his shoes and all of his offspring. That means Zuma will have 3.2 million great great grant kids in 100 years.

  • mariuskowie - 2012-10-30 10:21

    Still the government insists on the BEE laws. Targeting 4.29 million to benefit 46.85 million. They work hard at the myth that such a large number will gain by the oppression of such a small number. I still need to understand how the BBBEE laws are actually of benefit for the large number. Or are there only enough opportunities in South Africa to cater for the small number only and the large number cannot share in the opportunities without the benefit of BBBEE?

      gift.mushi.9 - 2012-10-30 10:43

      Whites where enriched for hundreds of years by apartheid, pathetic. We only 18 years in democracy. We (Blacks) still need another 82 years to reach the same playing fields (as those minority). I never thought it is painful.

      mariuskowie - 2012-10-30 10:49

      gift.mushi.9 Your racist stereotyping of whites is what is really pathetic. Your justification of racism is idiotic.

      peterpeter.pumkineater.5 - 2012-10-30 10:51

      BEE and all that rubbish is just put in place to see which companies are most likely to be corrupt and accept corruption. You need a BEE certificate to register for Tenders...and think about it...how many tenders are actually legit? usually fraud mounting to millions/billions...and all BEE companies are involved. If you get a company that DOESNT have BEE clearance, they are usually filled with people who actually care about the business and let things carry on working in one piece. BEE companies are filled with people who DONT care...except what pocket change they can pick up without being noticed...which always end up with the stupid **** getting busted

      mariuskowie - 2012-10-30 11:02

      peterpeter.pumkineater.5, you really don't understand how BBBEE works. Unless you run a micro enterprise, you are affected by BBBEE. If you prefer to ignore it, the penalties is harsh.

      mikel.kiparski - 2012-10-30 11:07

      I DONT UNDERSTAND i am 64 years old how can i have been enriched 4 350 years??

      peterpeter.pumkineater.5 - 2012-10-30 11:11

      Rebel, BEE is just an 'experiment', its not compulsory. I would rather work for a company that is not BEE affiliated, so I know that the company has a good name among its clientele and earns an honest buck. The BEE system is what is bringing this country to its knees. So dont give in to the system that the most corrupt officials came up with, they will only tear you down

      Msika - 2012-10-30 11:28

      Come on Mikel.kiparsi, use your brain. Your forefathers, left a legacy for you counting back from 4 350 years ago, today you and your children are benefiting from that legacy.

      mariuskowie - 2012-10-30 11:41

      peterpeter.pumkineater.5, You can call BBBEE an experiment. Some call it a failed experiment in social engineering. Does not matter what you call it, the impact on business is huge. You can read more about BBBEE at: http://bee.thedti.gov.za/ BBBEE is race based and evil. The motivation for BBBEE is weak and revenge based. I agree that BBBEE is what is bringing this country to its knees. Implement any system where one group benefits from the labor of another group and the motivation to innovate, grow and develop is removed from the beneficiaries. The beneficiaries will always find motivation to retain and expand the system they benefit from. The rewards for their hard work is removed from the victim group and they will either leave of work less. You can buck the system and prefer to limit your trade in such a way as to avoid BBBEE. Doing that limits your potential growth. Imposing limits onto your business or the business you work for actually benefits the ideology of BBBEE as you are effectively removed from the larger market space.

      mariuskowie - 2012-10-30 12:36

      @Johny Stront. Racist pig.

  • grootblou.bek - 2012-10-30 10:22

    Hahaha suckers. I indicated that I am a black person. No law in this country can be used to classify me as white/coloured/indian.

      Jeremy - 2012-10-30 10:29

      Don't talk nonsense Grootbek. You're entitled to call yourself "other" but no census taker would have allowed a "white" person to call him/herself "black" - unless you bribed the census-taker of course, and that would have been illegal...

      grootblou.bek - 2012-10-30 10:46

      If I remember correctly, the question was: "How do you classify yourself". Based on the way the question was constructed, I classified myself as black. The only illegal act would be if the census taker changed my answer to white. I haven't lied, have I? There is no law to classify me in a certain race group. Apartheid is gone. I am just as much a South African as any other race group and to have such a question in a census makes absolutely no sense. Except if there are going to be racially motivated consequences.

      frans.visserdsb - 2012-10-30 15:50

      I actually ticked African.(had to draw a box on the form) I am an african, i was born in africa, as was my parents etc. none of us were born in Europe, my parents have never been to europe, so they cannot be classified European.

  • ntombizanelepamela.msibi - 2012-10-30 10:22

    Ok I'm not sure what to make of this report.

  • ben.alexander.16144 - 2012-10-30 10:28

    Now give the figures of those contributing personal tax.

  • ivy.malema.3 - 2012-10-30 10:30

    the wealth of the country should also be distributed accordingly for stability and crime free country, cause a hungry person is dangerous

      wake.up.564 - 2012-10-30 10:38

      ivy, you must be just as stupid as malema. if you didn't know this beforehand, people work for what they have. it doesn't just come to them you dumba$$. HUNGRY MUCH? how about you eat the chip on your shoulder. if you want wealth get of your a$$ and work. stop expecting to be given everything, you and the 45 + million others like you are what is wrong with this country.

      mariuskowie - 2012-10-30 10:41

      And who are you willing to trust with your proposed redistribution of wealth?

      mikel.kiparski - 2012-10-30 11:15

      SO U WANT ME 2 WORK AND U 2 GET THE MONEY..u already do that u take half my sweat AND GIVE ME POTHOLES IN RETURN.

      Msika - 2012-10-30 11:31

      Who is the 45 + million others @ wake.up???

      wake.up.564 - 2012-10-30 12:50

      @ msika, i'm just allowing for a percentage of ALL races (yes white included) as being USELESS. maybe i should also say that in return that means that a percentage of each race are not completely useless, before you ask me again. so if you are not useless then you don't have to worry about my statement.

  • xolisa.dhlamini - 2012-10-30 10:30

    So Jimmy was right?

  • konanani.rachicoper - 2012-10-30 10:32

    So they were lying when they say they were going to australia.

  • frans.delport - 2012-10-30 10:37

    Ha ha priceless. SA the only country in the world where 41 million blacks needs to be protected and favored above 4.5 mil whites.Tells quite a story.

      somikazi.pita - 2012-10-31 00:02

      Yes the same 4.5 mil who oppressed the 41 million for many many years.

      naledi.mabindla - 2012-10-31 06:16

      Your comment truly shows how many brain cells u have frans! In the USA mojority white and protected more than other races, UK majority white protected more than other races !please don't live in a vaccum!ignorance is not bliss

      wbadenhorst - 2012-10-31 12:23

      @naledi.mabindla - Yes, thats the reason why there are institutions catering only for blacks in America, as opposed to NONE only for whites... To name a few: United Negro College Fund, Blacks Only Television channel, Black Colleges catering ONLY for Blacks, Ms Black America, Black Pride day...Csn you imagine what would happen if there were to be a White Pride day... Whites in America protected? From what? A black President? Oh wait.... As for the UK - They are actually the front runners in ensuring all are treated equal! Read a ANC t-shirt the other day that read "100 years of struggle" and on the back it read "the struggle continous"... WHAT? How can 4.5mil possibly opress 41mil in today's circumstances? Government = black, BEE ensures that most business dealings with government agencies (which in almost any industry is the biggest ammount of capita) favours blacks (atleast 25.1% black ownership)... etc... The only struggle today is actually blacks undermining blacks, for example Cyril Ramaphosa raking in R12500 per miner and only paying R 5400... LESS THAN HALF... Lonmin taught me that much - Open your eyes, whites are not in the position to opress blacks in South Africa - not generally at least, it probably does occur in smaller sectors - but waaaaayyyy less than the government opressing ALL WHITES... More schools in rural areas were constructed DURING apartheid than in the 20years following apartheid... Strange...

  • Mandla Nkosi - 2012-10-30 10:39

    'its a lot of them but its more of us' love that song. lol

  • Bokrichard - 2012-10-30 10:41

    Now they still have to count the orher 20 milion who were not counted - aliens, street kids etc, etc.

      madmountain - 2012-10-30 19:57

      Zuma's children ...

  • Bheki Arnold Dungeni - 2012-10-30 10:48

    yowza

  • Erna - 2012-10-30 10:49

    I know of some whites whose forms weren't fetched - not that it will change the statistics, but this census is about as accurate as the people who handled it.

  • Sphiwe - 2012-10-30 10:53

    If it wasnt zuma we would be equal

      madmountain - 2012-10-30 19:59

      Do you really think juju would give a cr_p when he's rich and in power. He'll be milking it for himself and nothing will change.

  • eric.shinn.90 - 2012-10-30 10:56

    lol If I remember correctly the choices were white or African. I'm African

  • shaylene.stenger - 2012-10-30 10:58

    fantastic, so next time the goverment wants to bitch about white people having more jobs than black, please remember the states that have been released that 8 out of 10 people are black therefor your percentage ratio of employment and unemployment is incorrect!!!!!

  • jeanpierre.dumont - 2012-10-30 10:59

    Whites actually went up from 4.29 to 4.59m.

  • john.windvogel - 2012-10-30 11:04

    So between 2001 and 2011 the coloured and white population increased by +- 0.5 million, indian and asian +- 0.2 million and blacks +- 5 million. Who are the ones striking for salary increases and better service delivery? If you cant afford it, stop making babies, start working for a salary and pay tax for service delivery

  • rwynford - 2012-10-30 11:04

    yeah you are more but i can garantee you all of ur brains put together wont even add up to half of the white population,i have a strong dislike against stupidity...if u wanna argue with that then u better take a look at our economie which was forced of the rail by the majority...the only thing that has not yet been destroyed are the BANANA farms

      thabang.molelekoa - 2012-10-30 11:32

      Dude, please get your refund from where ever you learnt your spelling.... Economy - not economie... I guess u are part of the illiterate people that we really do not need in this country by always putting race in to everything. Fact SA is multi cultured and must be seen as one. If you or any of your friends can not handle that, then please go to Australia, we need to work together to eradicate our problems as a country....

      madmountain - 2012-10-30 20:04

      Nuthing anoyz me moor than peeple who joyn a chat jus to complane abowt otha peeples spelin

  • lisa.staden - 2012-10-30 11:09

    And we still earning the most??

      timothy.louwfant - 2012-10-30 11:38

      Till When HUH?????????????

      letitia.weber.5 - 2012-10-30 11:51

      Till you people steel our money in the streets, we make money, then its stolen and so it carry on everyday.....

  • Msika - 2012-10-30 11:11

    So the lazy N24 journos and editor will give us a bit by bit headlines of the Census results for the entire week, instead of putting this whole report in one article? Come on now!! We deserve better.

      DuToitCoetzee - 2012-10-30 11:26

      My thoughts as well, but than they get more clicks and comments. All about ratings.

  • joshua.t.thomson - 2012-10-30 11:26

    What a pointless stat

  • letitia.weber.5 - 2012-10-30 11:35

    I wonder WHY there are so many black and so view white people........???? Because our white people are being killed by BLACK people everyday!!!!!!!

      timothy.louwfant - 2012-10-30 11:39

      LIKE you did in the past hey!

      mbuti.manopole.3 - 2012-10-30 12:01

      So few not view plonker,

      omrisho.za - 2012-10-30 12:48

      letitia... you are an embarressment to yourself... south africa does not need racists like you... *shakes head

      bradley.kecskes - 2012-10-30 13:02

      Well this all escalated quickly..."them" "us" "rape" come tishy, its 2012. get with the program sista.

      somikazi.pita - 2012-10-30 23:54

      Lol...

  • timothy.louwfant - 2012-10-30 11:35

    Sorry Zille!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      bradley.kecskes - 2012-10-30 13:03

      NO, Sorry you. Zille can leave when ever she wants, you on the other hand.

  • mbuti.manopole.3 - 2012-10-30 11:58

    That's put DA Britain in great jeorpady

  • Michael - 2012-10-30 12:25

    And these people want to govern us again they can, not a chance!

  • rwynford - 2012-10-30 12:45

    yeah boi,maybe to your knowledge i cant spell hahahaha,u crack me up dude...if i was writing a book i wouldve taken spelling into serious consideration,but yeah it does not defeat the purpose...how do u explain working together with results of today?truly this was not the vision of the great NELSON MANDELA...do you even know what he stands for?double check the meaning of a rainbow nation.nothing was ever solved with voilence and nor with ignorance boi! cos thats what you stand for!

  • rwynford - 2012-10-30 12:50

    @ kabelo.leepile...you make use of a word u cleary dont know the meaning of,do u know what a "DUMMY" is?look it up boi!then u delete ur post after that lol

  • DarrenCooper68 - 2012-10-30 12:56

    A smaller slice of the pie with each new additional mouth to feed. Almost like breeding oneself out of a job, education and state benefit. Simple mathematics or apparently not so simple....

  • lionel.smith.520 - 2012-10-30 13:36

    Racism at its worst. The census form asks a person for his race and then claims he classified himself. The question should not be asked in a non-racial society.

  • nyiko.ngobeni.5011 - 2012-10-30 13:59

    Viva!!!!!!!!

  • semakaleng.thulare - 2012-10-30 13:59

    If read carefully you'll see that the article says "people described themselves as..." not necessarily that they are that particular race! I'm sure there are some black people who described themselves as white and whites who described themselves as black or red. The is no solid proof that behind all these numbers!

  • megan.choi.526 - 2012-10-30 21:22

    We had some of our relatives over. There were about 10 of us. Most were shocked to hear that they're now black.

  • ranase - 2012-10-31 01:32

    oooh, somebody's infertile *zips lips*

  • banks.motsoeneng - 2012-10-31 03:58

    What a lie 41 mil, one must not 4gt that about 15 mil of em r foreigners frm all over Africa. This is all crap

  • craig.munro.50 - 2012-10-31 05:25

    Race.....human. We are all part of the human race.

  • profesas1 - 2012-10-31 08:42

    Yes, this is africa by the way, it will neva be the other way round

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