Ekurhuleni lying about dolomite - Azapo

2011-03-05 17:44

Johannesburg - Ekurhuleni was lying about the reason why about 1 000 people were being moved from Bapsfontein, Azapo said on Saturday. 

The area is not unsafe for human settlement, as claimed, said Azanian People's Organisation spokesperson Walter Nkabineng.

"There is no unstable dolomite there... that is just a lie so that the [Ekurhuleni] municipality can move the people.

"It is not a disaster zone. They (the municipality) have not got a court order to move these people."

During the initial relocation Azapo claimed that government was using the presence of dolomite as an excuse to evict informal residents, so they could then develop the same land for commercial housing after the residents have left.

Ekurhuleni spokesperson Zweli Dlamini denied this by saying the municipality "has everything we need to move these people legally. If Azapo or anyone wants to go to the court to get an interdict to stop us then they can try to do that".

"Azapo doesn't care about these people, they (Azapo) must leave us alone."

The forced relocation of families who initially refused to be moved from Bapsfontein in December began on Saturday.

The relocation process had started in December 2010 "but there were about 1 000 people who did not give their consent... so now we are forcefully removing them", Dlamini said.

Protecting lives

"Some of these people are saying they would rather die here than move but we cannot allow that... the government is protecting lives."

He said the relocation of about 3 080 people was initiated because "the area is highly unstable and not safe for human settlement".

Dolomite is soluble and over time dissolves, posing a danger to people living on dolomitic land where cave-ins known as sink holes eventually occur.

Nkabineng also argued that people cannot be moved "from shack to shack".

"They are moving us from a temporary settlement to another temporary settlement. The people want to go to a permanent settlement."

It would take about ten days for all the families to be moved, Dlamini said.

Hei said housing officials, health officials metro police and the SAPS were all on the scene in case violence erupted.

"Violence can be expected, but so far it is peaceful here."

Nkabineng said "the people will not fight the police".

  • mgv4life - 2011-03-05 18:04

    What an attention seeker!!! Does Azapo have Geotech Engineers?

      Samore - 2011-03-05 20:24

      Hello mgv4life, as chairperson of AZAPO in Gauteng, I am a professional civil engineer with geotechnical experience (my day job). Ekurhuleni Municipality has failed to produce a geotechnical report to justify its evictions, not only in Bapsfontein, but in Vosloorus, Germiston and Duduza.

      DW - 2011-03-05 20:49

      @ Samore - have you even been to the area? I have seen the sinkholes with my own eyes. What kind of an engineer are you if you think it is safe for people to live there? Is your political agenda more important than people's lives?

      DeeCS - 2011-03-06 00:34

      @ Samore : Where did you buy your so-called experience? Building a tin shack with stones on the roof doesnt count as experience.

      Samore - 2011-03-06 10:34

      I am the leader of AZAPO in Gauteng and I am a Geotechnical Engineer.

      Samore - 2011-03-08 17:08

      DW, in the Zama Zama informal settlement near Vosloorus, the Ekurhuleni Metro tried to evict residents and claimed that there was a high sinkhole risk. A recent geotechnical report for the area has rubbished the claims of the metro. The area is safe. I have also seen the sinkholes in the Bapsfontein area but a geotechnical report is required. In nearby Esselen Park there are RDP houses built less than 200m from sinkholes, yet Bapsfontein is 500m from the nearest sinkhole. Vosloorus Police station is built on a sinkhole and it is surrounded by homes less than 70m away.

  • Balstrome - 2011-03-05 18:05

    Which do you trust science or superstition?

  • Phlegm - 2011-03-05 18:16

    AZAPO - Damn, had forgotten about these oaks, or is it actually just one oak now?

      Mike - 2011-03-05 18:25

      OAKS? OKES! and I'm not even a Saffer.

  • NuttyZA - 2011-03-05 18:41

    Yeah, and in December, they relocated these buggers to an empty piece of land about 1km down the road from my small holding... consequently, the property price has dropped from being worth around R5 Million to around R1.5 Million (and I was told I would be lucky if I got that)

  • loveandpolitics - 2011-03-05 19:12

    I have been there and I promise you anybody living near there is in immediate danger. There is a giant sinkhole right next to the squatter camp!

      DW - 2011-03-05 20:46

      I have also seen the sinkholes. And when the whole squatter camp falls into a sinkhole then it will be the government's fault and everyone will stand with their hands out begging for new homes, blankets etc because they have lost everything. When will they learn not to move into areas which are obviously dangerous. It is the same with the squatters who, year after year, move back onto the edges of river banks and when they come down in floods and they lose everything, then they stand begging again.

      Samore - 2011-03-06 10:33

      The sinkhole is over 500 metres from the squatter camp. There is a farm house which is 30 metres from the same sinkhole but the municipality has not asked the farm owner to leave. The sinkholes are caused by farmers drawing more than their quota of groundwater from their boreholes.

      Happytoliveabroad - 2011-10-06 21:21

      @ Samore-dumb-@$$, you are kidding right, you are not really this stooooopid. OMG- no wonder the country is a lope to hell, it has retards like you as thought leaders. why dont you go live there then, come on move you loved ones there and lets see.

  • BigD - 2011-03-06 07:12

    There are sink holes where the shaks are. They even closed part of the raod to fill the sinking parts. Has azapo even been there.

  • Blikskottel - 2011-03-06 08:58

    Azapo, geo technical engineers of note, has spoken...and made their name GAT, yet again.

  • deonjoubsnr - 2011-03-06 10:39

    Just leave them there, a cheap funeral!

  • HJS - 2011-03-07 12:04

    If they want to continue to live there, let them. When the earth opens up and a big hole swallows them. No one needs to be moved anywhere after that.

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