Family witnessed SA woman's execution

2011-12-12 22:39

Johannesburg - The ashes of Janice Bronwyn Linden, executed in China on Monday, have been handed to a South African diplomat, the international relations department said.

"Her ashes have been given to a South African diplomat and will be handed over to her family," spokesperson Clayson Monyela said.

Linden, 35, from KwaZulu-Natal, was executed by lethal injection in China on Monday for drug smuggling.

She was arrested in Guangzhou in November 2008 after she was caught with 3kg of crystal methamphetamine (tik) in her luggage. She was convicted of drug smuggling in 2009.

Monyela said members of Linden's family were present for the execution.

"We have been working very closely with the family, and our embassy officials are there to provide the family with consular support," he said.

Earlier, the department said President Jacob Zuma had tried to intervene in Linden's execution.

"He [Zuma] did intervene. All the necessary interventions were done at every possible level, even the highest ones," said Monyela.

"Everything had to happen through diplomatic processes and there is very little that can be done around that."

One of Linden's relatives told The Mercury newspaper: "We communicated with letters. She said she didn't know how the drugs got into her luggage. She thought she was being framed.

"Her sentence is not justified. How can you take a person's life for 3kg of methamphetamine?"

An eNews' correspondent in Asia said her execution could have been commuted to a life sentence if Linden had confessed to the smuggling, but she had maintained her innocence.

Monyela said the department could not comment on the report because it was not aware of the Chinese government's reasons for going through with the execution.

The execution would also not impact South Africa's trade relationship with China, he said.

  • chikunga - 2011-12-12 22:53

    too bad,w let thm,kill out rhinos n our environment n they show no mercy whatsoever with our pple.

      OzzyIn - 2011-12-12 23:55

      You have proof linking the Rhino poachers to the Chinese? China, like a lot of other Asian countries, has the Death Penalty for drug trafficing. This woman knew the risks and lost. SA people are stupid for risking their lives trafficing drugs to these countries. To pu this in perspective, at 'least' the SA woman was executed by lethal injection. A local Chinese woman wo was caught trafficking drugs for her boyfriend was also executed on the same day. How was she executed? Shot in the back of the head.

      James - 2011-12-13 00:23

      China executes more people than the rest of the world combined. Risky trade. SA will have to find another product to export. Besides the Chinese are very smart I think they can make their own Meth.

      OzzyIn - 2011-12-13 00:25

      Henno, it was reported in the Star today.

      Mike - 2011-12-13 07:17

      You carry drugs you die - good for china bad luck for her

      Impartial - 2011-12-13 07:35

      Here is the thing that bothers me, the fact that China still have the death penalty is OK by me the problem is our government saying that maybe this will be a deterrent for would be criminals but don't have the b*lls to do it themselves. If this was one or other ministers or comrade's family member this would have ended differently. The statement they made is the total opposite of what they say they stand for.

      Daniel - 2011-12-13 07:59

      "How can you take a persons life for 3kg of meth" ? How many lives can 3kg of meth take ? She got what she deserved, you go China !!

      allen.visser - 2011-12-13 08:00

      With all due respect, who's fault is that? SA has become soft and weak in measuring out punitive measures. We basically encourage anybody to commit crimes in this country by not hammering down on criminals. SA is at fault for allowing poaching, drug dealing and corruption. The Chinese are protecting their people by hammering down on criminals in their country. Thumbs up to China for killing this degenerate, SA citizen or not. If only SA gov were that concerned about its people and natural resources, our wildlife and way of life wouldn't be in such disarray.

      Kevin - 2011-12-13 08:03

      you live by the needle YOU DIE BY THE NEEDLE!

      peter.erasmus - 2011-12-13 08:04

      @OzzyInSA before you go running your mouth about linking the Rhino poachers to the chinese do some research around it here is a part of an articl from 16 November. "To date, 199 poachers have been arrested since January – compared to 165 arrested for last year. Thai nationals Chumlong Lemtongthai and Punpitak Chunchom are currently in court for exporting rhino horn." Those name look chinese and they were shiping rhino horn to Hong Kong. just a little reading will make you look less stupid.

      laurentia.hodge - 2011-12-13 08:16

      @peter.erasmus - practise what you preach: "just a little reading will make you look less stupid." it wasn't Ozzy who linked the poaching to the chinese it was Chikunga!

      johan.j.groenewald - 2011-12-13 08:48

      @ peter. Hong Kong is in China.

      WotzisName - 2011-12-13 09:22

      What if this girl really was innocent??? Like she claims, and her luggage was spiked! That means that some sicko out there is living free and laughing at the rest of us condemning a living soul like we all know better, while he prepares the next victim to be executed in a foreign brutal land for the sake of spreading his evil drugs! We all desreve to go to hell for wishing death on another person who we just assume was guilty just because some chinese communist says it's so! The punishment does NOT fit the crime here! What if that was YOUR daughter who died like that in a far away frightening place!

      Hang - 2011-12-13 11:53

      @ Peter, love how ignorant you are. Thoes names are THAI, and the reason the exploit the Hong Kong port is because it runs a more relaxed rules(West rules, Hong Kong remains British laws). It is the SOUTH EAST ASIANS(Malaysia, Thailand...etc) who believe in rhino horn medicinal powers, not Chinese. You people should really learn more before talking crap because all you do is hear say. It is as dumb as saying South Africa is crap because of Mugabe is the President. Come on!

      Sue - 2011-12-13 12:10

      and all the sharks and dolphins and whales ect. They are barbarians.

      andrew.molyneaux - 2011-12-13 13:44

      A common practice with The Kingpins is to sacrifice one mule to conceal a larger consignment either on the same flight or another flight arriving at approx the same time - Wonder if this is what happened here?

      Edward - 2011-12-14 02:25

      You are so right. The asian market for the powder of rhino horn is the largest in the world. Maybe they don't actually kill the rhinos but they make the market for the product. And China is a developing country that is one of the world's largest polluters who will only grow in their pollution as they grow as an economy and what until they get a hold of Africa the colonial powers will look like fairy godmothers in comparison. At least the colonial powers learned from their mistakes. None of them would want to go back to the 18th, 19th, or early 20th centuries. Just look at how much they have invested in SA through foreign aid. And regardless of what some will say there are few strings attached. Good luck with China on that one.

      Rachel - 2011-12-14 11:04

      Bravo Chikunga!

      Bobby - 2011-12-14 16:27

      The market for Rhino horn is Chinese. Its a nice perspective there, Chikunga. Maybe not completely right, but interesting thinking.

  • marina.poniatowska - 2011-12-12 22:53

    I don't see why this is making front page news. If you choose do to something stupid (and illegal) like this and get caught, you must pay the penalty of that country. Drugs kill and destroy lives.

      Nikki Bodenstein - 2011-12-13 00:13


      Joseph - 2011-12-13 00:44

      agree 100%

      pberchu - 2011-12-13 07:49

      THank God there are other sane people! "How can you take a person's life for 3kg of tik?" Because tik takes /destriys more than one person's life. It destroys communities. I agree the punishment fitted the crime.

      Sam - 2011-12-13 08:06

      I find this attitude pretty strange. A lot of the comments tend to follow the theme of 'Well that's the law of the land, she should know, justice has been done'. In my experience, a lot of the proponents of the death penalty tend to be hardcore Christians. I wonder how they feel about all the missionaries that were put to death in China. Justified? I mean, that was the law of the land, they should have known better. Or maybe South Africans just enjoy a bit of murderous retribution.

      theO rAcLe - 2011-12-13 08:07

      Well Said Pberchu...............

      Itumeleng - 2011-12-13 10:20

      strongly agree, but did she do it?

      WotzisName - 2011-12-13 10:48

      @Itumuleng! Exactly, how clear cut is this case, or did an innocent woman die a horrible and frightening death in a far away evil society?

      ChiefGalaktus - 2011-12-13 10:56

      @proafrikkans "has 10 babies the taxpayer has to take care of" really?

      marlin.forbes - 2011-12-13 15:17

      It's making front page news because she maintained her innocence for 3-4 years, knowing it would damn her to a more severe sentence. Because she said she never knew how the drugs got into her bag. It is apparently common practice to slip something into an innocent's bag to distract fromm another bigger assignment going through elsewhere. All speculation yes, but in a civil society, she would have been given the benefit of the doubt. A crime must be proved beyond a reasonable doubt. There is reasonable doubt in this case.

      Marc - 2011-12-14 10:17

      @proafrikaans - fuk sakes you are a joke. proidiot

  • chikunga - 2011-12-12 22:53

    too bad,w let thm,kill out rhinos n our environment n they show no mercy whatsoever with our pple.

      Sithando - 2011-12-12 23:05

      Chikunga, your people are drug mules not mine, certainly not my fellow South Africans and what's stopping you from executing the Chinese if you find them killing the rhino? We are not the killer state, if you choose to kill do it but remember that the consequences of your actions will prevail like the drug dealer being given a high dose of her drugs.

      Juan - 2011-12-13 05:19

      We shouldn't LET them kill our Rhinos. Those poachers must be caught and should get the death penalty as well. Enough is enough

      Kim - 2011-12-13 05:20

      @Chikunga I agree with you 100%. She did pay the price for what she did but the irony of them killing our rhino without a second thought, just because they have this stupid belief that rhino horn will improve their sex life and then they execute one of ours.

      Juan - 2011-12-13 05:21

      And the same for murderers and drug mules caught in this country

      marina.poniatowska - 2011-12-13 05:29

      Juan, how do you get to destroying the lives of humans to killing animals? Don't get me wrong, I don't agree with poaching, let alone hunting. But c'mon. You just sound stupid.

      Juan - 2011-12-13 05:58

      The Rhino is in danger of being wiped out. Why should the people who's responsible for this lives be preserved, and that at the expense of the tax payer? Cummon

      Jerhone - 2011-12-13 09:37

      well said chikunga,imagine someone killing one of their pandas there will be "pandamonium" in China they will probabily invade that persons country, but our greedy spineless government allow the slaughter of our animals, it shows you they really can't run a country,or protect their citizens and wildlife

  • Geronimo - 2011-12-12 22:57

    OF COURSE the execution won't impact on SA's trade relation with China *eye roll*... SA is China's lackey and will simply do as told.

      Juan - 2011-12-13 05:20


      Chantelle - 2011-12-13 08:14

      @braam you F#$%^ waste of air!!!!

      Morne - 2011-12-13 09:05

      They want too boom-boom cheap-cheap hey Braam? Heh heh heh

      jafet.maclean - 2011-12-13 09:39

      lmfu Braam, thats funny....

      Jerhone - 2011-12-13 09:39

      to Braam and they luff you long time

  • isabel.defaria - 2011-12-12 23:13

    So many comments so harsh in many cases ...but no one knows why a young women who was suspose to be working in the UK got duped into going to China of all places ...i know for a fact that young people working in the UK are battling to make ends meet because of lack of ongoing work...who knows how desperate she was when she took that trip ...we should not stand in judgement of her we all make bad decisions at some point in our lives now all we can do is at least respect her family's grief....during this difficult time. The punishment did not fit the crime a long sentence would have been sufficient to discourage others...Our government should educate our young people of the dangers if caught with any illegal substance in other countries...many S A are sitting in foreign jails due to ignorance of foreign law and in some cases because they are not wise enough to question why anyone would be prepared to pay good money to take a parcel from one country to another.

      OzzyIn - 2011-12-13 00:02

      Isabel, please do not make excuses. SHE NEVER WENT TO THE UK. She lied to her parents, her friends, and th eauthorities. She got caugtht. She did te crime and has to pay for it under the law of the land. Why does the government have to educate anyone over drug trafficking? Countries like China, Singapore and Indonesia have a zero tolerance to drug trafficking. IT IS THE DEATH PENALTY. What is there to educate and learn? Some people are too stupid or chasing money. Is it worth the risk? NEVER!

      Derek - 2011-12-13 00:09

      Do you or does anyone know where I can read the details of the case? And what her full defence was, and other details about her reasons for been there, where she flew from, who she was with ect ect

      Phok - 2011-12-13 03:34

      According to Ozzy: "She did te crime and has to pay for it under the law of the land." Just like criminals in South Africa pays for their crimes, right? TOOL!

      Ian - 2011-12-13 05:54

      You have to live, or die, with the consequences of your actions. If alarm bells aren't going MAD when someone asks you to deliver a package to another country, then I'm sorry but you deserve whatever comes your way. People have become soft in this day and age, years ago people died all the time, they still do. If you chose to take the risk by doing something illegal, then that's your choice. If I choose to steal a cellphone and get shot by police, no-one is going to be too upset. Why then are people getting so overly upset about this? She knew she was busy doing dodge things, if she didn't know all the risks then it's her own fault, she chose to break the law. She got caught. Wish they would catch more of these criminals.

      carli.wessels - 2011-12-13 08:00

      my only feeling is that she deserved a fair trial - we will never know if she was uilty or innocent. who knows. and who are we to judge here. but why can she not stand trial here and serve in her own country, that would be fair...

      MissGremlin - 2011-12-13 11:23

      I would sit in debtors jail a thousand times over, for not being able to pay a debt. But I would rather die, before I let myself be known worldwide as a (dead) drug mule. It's all about the choices we make in life.

  • Gary - 2011-12-12 23:28

    I feel that if she maintained her innocence in the face of death then she must surely be innocent. Perhaps she was framed and if not she does not deserve the death penalty for being a drug mule. Why aren't the Chinese giving the death penalty to people smuggling illegally obtained rhino horn, abalone, tortoises etc. that come from our land. Also, why are the those self-righteous Chinese allowing their criminals into Africa to work as slaves on their construction schemes before being released for us to deal with. I say we can do without the Chinese in our land.

      OzzyIn - 2011-12-13 00:21

      Framed? She lied to her parents, saying she was going to the UK. She knew what she was doing, took a risk, and has paid the price.

      Phok - 2011-12-13 03:37

      Oh Ozzy, shut your stupid trap, won't you? You don't know what the hell you're talking about, fool!

      Kosie - 2011-12-13 08:55

      @ gary: the chinese that comes to work here are inmates andthey come here and work for free as in botswana and mostly everywhere in africa and when their time is done they are free to stay where ever they like. there prisons are so over crowded and they found a way to deal with it, don'tblame them because africans are stupid.

  • Frankie - 2011-12-12 23:31

    sad but must be done to save lives.may she rest in peace

  • TamaraSays - 2011-12-12 23:37

    Sorry, but if you're going to be dumb enough to smuggle drugs in a country where the penalty is death, then you're an idiot.

      Nikki Bodenstein - 2011-12-13 00:12

      Yup couldn't agree more!

      TamaraSays - 2011-12-13 00:25

      Not to diminish the family's loss that is. However, I struggle to wrap my head around the possibility of someone PLANTING 3kgs of meth on you withour your knowledge. Then again, maybe she was working for Sheryl Cwele, and was promised a get out of jail free card.

      Barrie - 2011-12-13 04:48

      I know few details about this specific case but I live in China and have on more than one occasion arrived back in Shanghai (and Guangzhou) from abroad with checkin luggage that has been tampered with. All I'm saying is that planting something in someone's luggage is certainly not impossible. Few regular travellers in SA can say they have never had a bag lost or opened (with items missing or not) in transit. 3kgs is A LOT of tik but from an immediately noticeable weight difference in a 20+kg suitcase - perhaps less so.

      TamaraSays - 2011-12-13 10:49

      Barrie, I know bags aren't impervious to tampering, but it's the sheer volume that I struggle to compute. What kind of SPACE does 3kgs of tik take up? Most people have suitcases that you can't slip a knifeblade into, and finding the space to stash that much could the tricky. Add to that the fact that there must be SOME form of security at baggage handling, that could prove, in a case like this, whether your bag was tampered with, and I find it even harder to believe that an innocent person couldn't prove it. It just seems to me that there are still a few string pullers out there praying on the weak and desperate.

      Barrie - 2011-12-13 11:26

      Tamara, like I said, I don't know all the details and from experience I can say few people reporting this or reading these reports will have all the facts as China remains quite closed in terms of media and divulging such details. My feeling is that: IF unquestionably guilty then the right message of absolute intollerence was rightly sent. But, my goodness, if she was indeed innocent in a system that is ultimately as fallible as any in the world, then international travel becomes a very scary prospect indeed.

  • Mary-Ann - 2011-12-12 23:37

    I am so devastated that someone can be executed for drug possession given China's not so squeaky clean hand in animal atrocities, human trafficking, sex slavery, fake designer label trade, etc etc etc. This lady claimed innocence as well, and there have been multitudes of cases where drugs were planted on people without their knowledge. I hope to God this is not such a case. She had the opportunity to plead guilty and get life - but didn't. They should go after their own dealers who were waiting for the stuff...

      OzzyIn - 2011-12-13 00:19

      Mary-Ann, it is the law of the land. Same as in Singapore, Indonesia and others. If you are stupid enough to traffic drugs into these countries, the sorry for you. At least the SA woman was executed by lethal injection. How about the local Chinese girl who was executed on the same day for carrying drugs for her boyfriend from one town to another. Her execution? SHE WAS HOT IN THE BACK OF THE HEAD. China wer not making an example of the SA woman. She was tried and convicted.

      Lucian Isaacs - 2011-12-13 03:47

      helo myt. Hows thngs. Ek sien jy en ozz catch leka op news24. Stuur groete daar.

      Lucian Isaacs - 2011-12-13 03:47

      helo myt. Hows thngs. Ek sien jy en ozz catch leka op news24. Stuur groete daar.

      Lucian Isaacs - 2011-12-13 03:48

      helo myt. Hows thngs. Ek sien jy en ozz catch leka op news24. Stuur groete daar.

      Chantelle - 2011-12-13 08:19

      @ozzy ok. we get it. you think she got what she deserved. please stop trying to make the rest of us see your point - those of us with a forgiving and si=ensitive heart feel differently than you do, so let it be.

  • Maurits Schultz - 2011-12-12 23:52

    The Chinese do not give a toss about anything or anyone. They will do things their way. They have the power and the money. Zuma is completely insignificant as far as they are concerned and it makes no difference what he demands!

  • tonycoxmusic - 2011-12-12 23:56

    If China has the sheer barbaric balls to execute a young woman for 3kg of meth they should line up their entire government and execute the bastards too. There are people in the govt highly toxic to human life and who have been breaching every human right for a very long time. These are the sods that need execution. You twits saying justice has been done wouldn't know justice if it jumped out of your soup and bit you on the nose...

      Dave - 2011-12-13 01:50

      Tony you are right China is a country run by people with very little or no ethics, but 3kg's of meth will destroy at the least one life if not more, I have a child that is a addict and we go through hell, he is in and out of rehab, the dealers stop at nothing to sell their drugs, they even manage to find their clients in rehab, how can you expect people like myself and all the other families affected by drug abuse show sympathy towards anybody involved in the drug trade, as far as I am concerned death should be a mandatory sentence around the world.

      Ian - 2011-12-13 06:03

      China is the worlds fastest growing economy. They need to feed more than a billion people every year. Chinese unemployment and poverty are ever decreasing. <---- Yup China is a bad example to follow, lets MUCH RATHER be like South Africa, destroy every working civil service post 1994 and become one of the MOST CORRUPT governments ever seen. #f@cklogic and #canyoutastethesarcasm

      Dave - 2011-12-13 08:55

      Hy Tony, love your music.

  • Ruan - 2011-12-12 23:57

    .....i'm no more buying cheap electronic goods.....with...."Made in China" on the back of it !!

      Maurits Schultz - 2011-12-13 00:13

      Sadly mate, almost everything is made in China. Would be great if the west boycotted the crap they make, but sadly, due to our endless need for the latest cell phone ,electronic gadget etc it will never happen!

      shingi.mushipe - 2011-12-13 02:17

      That would be so nice, unfortunately China is kind of like the big bully at school which even the teachers are afraid to reign in. Little guys like Zuma don't stand a chance. Very sad indeed

      Juan - 2011-12-13 05:41

      I bought a rather expensive Japanese make laptop the other day, and on the back the label reads "Made in China". It's rather difficult to find electronic goods not made in China these days.

  • Gilad - 2011-12-13 00:12

    china are dog eating bruts. this is entirely sick

      OzzyIn - 2011-12-13 02:19

      Yes, dog eating "bruts". Intelligence personified. Have you been to China? FWIW, they do not eat dog in China but they do in KOREA.

      Phok - 2011-12-13 03:39

      Shows how much you know, plonk! They DO eat dog in China!

      Juan - 2011-12-13 05:44

      Dog tail is quite a delicacy in the Philipines

  • Nikki Bodenstein - 2011-12-13 00:16

    Watch the toddler being driven over on YouTube, it's no surprise - the chinese are sick!

      Jenny - 2011-12-14 17:44

      This is rich coming from a South AFrican where we rape babies, murder and torture the farmers who feed us, where we have the highest incident of rape in the world, where we are up there, amongst the Top Ten for criminality and now increasingly being imprisoned for carrying drugs, thus contributing to the slow death of millions by tik and drug addiction.

  • Deon - 2011-12-13 00:17

    real difficult to intervene when your head is far up the chinese govt.'s ass that they can't hear a word you are saying !!!!

  • Ampers - 2011-12-13 00:32

    Her sentence was not justified? Maybe in some countries but this is in another society with well published rules about what will happen if you smuggle dope. 3 kilograms is enough to make the "own use" case untenable. If someone thinks the rewards are enough to risk the death penalty, then good luck to them. However, there is no use crying if you lose your bet with your own life. Naturally it is sad for someone young to lose there life, but laws are laws, and this was a recognized law in an alien country. If she was Chinese she would have been shot in the back of the head, and her family would be invoiced for the bullet.

      Joseph - 2011-12-13 00:58

      You are right-1500 South Africans in foreign jails for drug smugling,were does this leaves us,we are battling with crime in the country why protect and defend a criminal. four kids in Soweto were killed by two speeding vehicles and drugs were blamed for that when are we going to learn that drugs have destroyed our lives and lives of our beloved ones.It is said that Nigerians are big drug dealers but one thing for sure they do not traffic them to foreign land knowing very well that if cought will be sentenced to death,why are we doing it.

  • Stephen - 2011-12-13 00:36

    I'm so so tired of people blaming drugs, alcohol and all the other little vices for destroying lives. It's the stupid naive weak people who use and abuse substances who create their own destiny. So lets go out execute manufacturers of alcohol, prescription medication, junk food, tobacco and the list goes on and on. This is one of those situations where there is always a counter argument and the debate will never end.

      Ian - 2011-12-13 06:06

      Until everyone dies from drug overdoses and alcohol poisoning and lung cancer :p

      Mattheu - 2011-12-13 09:01

      Well said Stephen!

  • Karoo - 2011-12-13 00:52

    3 kg of crystal methamphetamine can ruin the lives of an awful lot of people. And one is too many. This is not alcohol where you have to overindulge for decades to come to grief. This stuff can irreversibly alter the course of a young kid or adult's life over the course of weeks to months.

      Gilad - 2011-12-13 01:57

      not as irreversibly as a lethal injection. China is a sick state. They executed this woman, probably ran the whole trial in chinese. She had no chance. She was a lamb to the slaughter on the behest of those drug users and the source suppliers that sent her. shame and disgrace in my opinion on China and on anyone that says it was necessary.

      Vegi - 2011-12-13 06:30

      Karoo The drug mule is permanently removed from society by life imprisonment. China has labour camps where their horrendous inhumanity is in full display. At least the girl would have been able to mount a future challenge to prove her innocence, since she professed innocence until her last breath. All the points you make are valid and cannot be disputed but the death penalty is not the right option.

      Leonard - 2011-12-13 07:56

      Gilad Yeah right the "lamb to the slaughter" defence. The Chineese came to her home and offered her the opportunity to make some "deserved" (as she was previously disadvantaged)cash for her poor family. She did not buy a plane ticket to China, she did not put the drugs in her luggage and attempt to smugggle them into a country that had the DEATH PENALTY!!!! If your going into any business at least do a bit of research. Once again apartheid has left its legacy.....

  • Thisme - 2011-12-13 01:08

    Pearson airport workers linked to organized crime are stealing baggage tags from unsuspecting travellers to use in smuggling bags laden with drugs into the country, security officials claim. Some airport security staff allege more drugs are being smuggled into the country by corrupt airport workers than by travellers arriving on flights. Read the above article from Canada, and then you will realise that drugs can be stashed in your suitcase without your knowledge....who knows, she might have been innocent!!

      Joseph - 2011-12-13 01:16

      If Chines authorities were involved then she was not going to be caught instead they were going to stash the lot some where else.Traffikers do it for a profit not for fan.

  • Nkosinathi - 2011-12-13 01:18

    Drug peddling is punishable by death in other countries. Here at home drug mules are king makers> Too many people cry for death penality for serious crime comited here at home but cry why our people get death penalities if they comit crimes that carries death penalities in those countries they would have comited crimes. Lets execute all drug lords here in South Africa, let put to death violent criminals, lets bring death penality and weed out serious criminals. there too many free Glen Aglioties, Nambolisas and few convicted Selebis

  • sandie.vahl - 2011-12-13 01:22

    From the comments made it seems that there are sadly many who support the death penalty.

      OzzyIn - 2011-12-13 01:53

      Sandie, I do not support the death penalty. However, there are a number of countries that have a zero tolerance to drug trafficking. This woman knew the risks, lied to her family, and suffered the consequences. Would you traffic drugs into a country who's laws are penalty of death? Would you traffic drugs anywhere, anyway? China has a zero tolerance to drug trafficking, as does Singapore, Indonesia, and others. That is the law of the land. It works locally for the most part. There are 2 South Africans facing the same fate as the one in China, in Bali, Indonesia. Unlike the SA woman the 2 in Bali will be hanged.

      Gilad - 2011-12-13 02:00

      The death penalty is appropriate where the punishment fits the crime. in my opinion a murderer should be a candidate for the death penalty. A serial murderer without question. A drug mule - may she rest in peace I hope there is justice after life because she was robbed of hers.

      Phok - 2011-12-13 03:41

      Who is this all-knowing 'Ozzy' fool that thinks he knows so much about human nature and how life works? Sounds like just another ignorant TOOL regurgitating some liberal BS he picked up along the way.

      Bloubul Jonck - 2011-12-13 04:56

      yes I do support the death penalty 100%

      Alan - 2011-12-13 07:58

      I also support the death penalty, but remember how the Nats abused this to their advantage. Placed in the hands of the current regime I shudder to think how they would use it to their advantage.

      Andre - 2011-12-13 08:48

      Hi Alan, u are making a statement about the nats,just tel me what u know otherwise keep your stupid imbesile mouth shut.

      Alan - 2011-12-13 09:26

      Good god, you are touchy.

      Alan - 2011-12-13 10:13

      OK Andre, here are 2 links below, although I'm pretty sure you don't like to read. I'm sure I could find more. I'll try not to rub you up the wrong way in future, so I humbly apologise. What I am trying to emphasize is that it was abused in the past. Given SA's violent history -e.g. necklacing was encouraged by the left wing. Given this tool I have no doubt that there would be framings and political interference from the current government. Remember as well that the morotorium on the death penalty was put in place by the Nats after the outcry from the ANC as there were political executions in the pipeline. Let me know if you want more links.

  • Thisme - 2011-12-13 01:58

    Joseph.......I dont think the Chinese autorities were at all involved...I think that airport workers/security could be involved at any airport and stash the drugs in an unsuspecting persons luggage, just like what happened in Sydney in 2005... SYDNEY, Australia (CNN) -- Luggage security at Sydney airport is under scrutiny amid revelations more baggage handlers may be stood down next week.The possible action follows allegations that the airport workers are connected with a multi-million dollar cocaine smuggling ring.The developments have ignited concerns about the security of passenger luggage at Australia's largest international and domestic airport amid fears the drug smuggling is wider than originally thought, and previous claims that unwitting passengers are being used as "drug mules" by drug cartels. If goods can get stolen from your suitcase, why couldnt drugs be put into your suitcase without your knowledge? I am against drug smuggling but wouldnt like to be put to death if I hadnt done the crime, and who knows if Janice was innocent or not, we can only wonder?

      vuyour - 2011-12-13 02:45

      We also don’t know if this was her first count of smuggling. I do not Trust Chinese as well; however the lady left home for London and was caught in China "Credibility".

  • Tshivhombela Fhatuwani - 2011-12-13 02:05

    Who can trust this dept. of ITR? It was the Dalai Lama case, now it's Linden's case mishandled. I know they cannot utter a word against their 21st century colonial masters.

      Vegi - 2011-12-13 06:54

      Very true.

  • Tshivhombela Fhatuwani - 2011-12-13 02:23

    I've seen a lot of change ever since some people realised that the woman's name does not resemble her race. That sympathy, that empathy has been overriden by racial vendatta. You were right at firs place. I would understand if the woman was executed elsewhere but not China, I doubt if she was given fair trial. I don't think the woman would have maintained her innocence until her execution as she was promised the reversal of death sentence to life if she confesses. Practically she would've thought of getting an immunity from death penalty and wait for some diplomatic means. On the other hand you can't trust our sisters with their Nigerian boy friends.

      Alan - 2011-12-13 08:21

      I've been out of touch with it and have just googled the name, without thinking about it I thought she was white, my bad. Ethnicity excluded, having seen what drugs can do, I have a definite view on how trafficers and pushers should be treated, but the trafficers risk is normally only in losing the parcel. I suspect that whoever gave her the parcel must have had a hold on her that she would not roll over on them, maybe threatening her family. Why would she just not admit it to save herself? Nevertheless, my sympathy lies with her family, god alone knows what I would be going through if it were my daughter. More comment than that I won't make for now.

  • Tshivhombela Fhatuwani - 2011-12-13 02:24

    I've seen a lot of change ever since some people realised that the woman's name does not resemble her race. That sympathy, that empathy has been overriden by racial vendatta. You were right at firs place. I would understand if the woman was executed elsewhere but not China, I doubt if she was given fair trial. I don't think the woman would have maintained her innocence until her execution as she was promised the reversal of death sentence to life if she confesses. Practically she would've thought of getting an immunity from death penalty and wait for some diplomatic means. On the other hand you can't trust our sisters with their Nigerian boy friends.

      Sterling - 2011-12-13 04:46

      These are the same people in SA that have been raving about life in China so they now see the dark side of China. In China if one is convicted of corruption in China most of the times one is put before the firing squad and killed. Many of the ANC members that have been involved in corruption would have put before the firing squad in China. IN China people like Vavi,Malema, Selebi and many other people would not exist in China. When the Chinese owner of a mine in Zambia shot the workers in Zambia and the government deported the owners back to China. If this same incident had happened in China the African owners would have been shot.

  • dave.martins - 2011-12-13 04:34

    The South African Government has proven to be typical in the way they deal with their Chinese counterparts - bowing to pressure by not permitting the Dali Lama a visa to visit the 'democratic' country, and they do nothing about stopping the execution of their own citizen. South Africa has no death sentence for child rapists and murderers yet they allow one of their citizens to be executed by another government. This is not about breaking the law but about the principles of one rule of some and another rule for others.

  • Bloubul Jonck - 2011-12-13 04:49

    Good on you china how many lives could that 3kg destroyed?

  • Carolyn - 2011-12-13 05:52

    Dose 2 wrongs make a rite she could have done life in SA We bow down to the Chinese too much

  • Markrschulz - 2011-12-13 06:15

    It's awful to say but even if she had been transferred to an SA prison for 10 years, she would have still received a 'lethal injection' if you know what I mean. Heh Heh Heh. Seriously, what about all the people that could have died from this poison? Don't they count at all? Don't pity her - she got what she deserved.

  • raymond.kok3 - 2011-12-13 06:16

    china just wshowed you sa who is the boss, its an internal matter and they wont even give you a hearing likewise you should havve told them with the whole sorry saga of the Dailay Lama .as from now on if a chinese national is caught poaching rhino hand the bastard. as for the drug mule good on you i know what tik can do to peoples life so be it you got what you deserve.

  • Vegi - 2011-12-13 06:22

    This incident has solidified my dislike of the Chinese regime. The Soviets also hated the Chinese though they were commies together. These people are beastly and selfish. The cold blooded murder of this beautiful young woman was uncalled for. Life inprisonment would have removed her from society long enough for her to forget about the drugs, if indeed she was a drug mule, taking into account the shoddy and primitive nature of the Chinese justice system.

      John - 2011-12-13 06:50

      I have read all the posts today and have only one statement to make. Let this be a lesson to all travelers to any overseas destination. When your luggage arrives on the conveyer at luggage collection. Check it for damage, if it has the slightest evidence of tampering don't touch airport security immediately and let them watch you open your luggage, it could save your life. I have personal experience in this wife and my luggage was tampered with on our first visit to Singapore. We called security and they first sniffed our bags with an electronic sniffer and witnessed the opening. Always lock your luggage zips even if they are easy to break. You will be able to check them. I have watched travelers, they grab their bags and charge to get to customs ahead of anyone else. Examine your bags first it could save your life!

      Robbie - 2011-12-13 07:04

      WEll said ThailandJohn

  • steveroodt - 2011-12-13 06:32

    The country that executed more than four times as many convicts as the rest of the world combined last year is slowly phasing out public executions by firing squad in favor of lethal injections. Unlike the United States and Singapore, the only two other countries where death is administered by injection, China metes out capital punishment from specially equipped "death vans" that shuttle from town to town. Makers of the death vans say the vehicles and injections are a civilized alternative to the firing squad, ending the life of the condemned more quickly, clinically and safely. The switch from gunshots to injections is a sign that China "promotes human rights now," says Kang Zhongwen, who designed the Jinguan Automobile death van in which "Devil" Zhang took his final ride. China has a death bus that comes to your house.

      Vegi - 2011-12-13 06:51

      Please spare us the callous and grisly details.

      Sterling - 2011-12-13 06:54

      In the US if one is found guilty of a capital crime one is allowed years of appeal. In China that is not the case because your are taken out right away.

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  • Vegi - 2011-12-13 06:45

    I also take issue with people who are so certain that this girl was guilty. In this regard I wish to bring up the story of a Russian man who was executed by the Soviets having been condemned as a serial killer because the bodies of victims were buried in his garden (or something like that). When the real serial killer continued killing after this execution and was eventually caught in the act, the authorities were unable to resurrect the innocent man who had been executed on flimsy circumstantial evidence. The worse part is that the personal effects, including the panties of women for which the innocent man had been executed were found in the possession of the real serial killer. We all know that it is not that difficult to slip 3kg into an unsuspecting victim's bag. So please check your glee, this may happen to you or your child.

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      Barefoot - 2011-12-13 06:58

      If you plead guilty you are spared and innocent then they kill you? funny i was of the believe that death sentences are handed down on sure cases.

  • Barefoot - 2011-12-13 06:54

    Drugs ruin lives, my son sister brother's life has been ruined by drugs. if you are stupid enough to start using drugs then maybe your life deserves to be ruined. who doesn't have access to drugs? i do, i know where they are sold but 'm not that stupid as to go using them. other crimes like robbery and rape one doesn't have a choice those are the people i feel sorry for.

  • lisa.evansdominick - 2011-12-13 07:05

    Do they have idea idea how many lives 3kg of crystal meth can destroy? Why was sh going to China in the first place? who paid for her ticket? a parcel does not just appear in your luggage?

      Alan - 2011-12-13 08:53

      If it's easy enough to open up and remove an item(as happens in SA), it's easy enough to plant something there as well.

  • malcolm - 2011-12-13 07:07

    Janice Linden comes from a highly impoverished area. It has been reported that the her family where initially shocked to have heard that she was arrested in China, as she was suppossed to have been flown to another country. Impoverished people do not jet set around the world. They do not have the money for it. The Chinese would have investigated the matter thoroughly. It is quite probable that Linden could not have given the authorities a reason for being in China in the first place, be it for business, or pleasure. I am sure the truth will come out in time. My guess is that she was a drug mule, and either her close family, or friends where the main dealers. Tick is a very popular drug in coloured communities.

  • Munchk1n - 2011-12-13 07:10

    China executions halved to 4 000 a year. Perhaps if we still had the death penalty, our numbers would also be down because eventually you run out of criminals to execute. Good for China, they only had 4000 criminals. 50% of SA are criminals, at least 90% of the government are corrupt, I say hang em all, and let God sort them out.

      Karlheinz von Bentheim - 2011-12-13 07:37

      U have a theological problem. God is the only one to judge and yet you judge by wanting people killed.

      Alan - 2011-12-13 08:59

      How many people were executed at the whim of the Nationalist Party during apartheid? I agree with capitalist punishment but remember only too well how this was abused. Imagine that power being put in the hands of the current regime?

  • Vegi - 2011-12-13 07:14

    A word of warning to all South Africans, don't go to the followin places: Europe( except Russia which is a modern and civilized country); Asia, especially China, Saud Arabia, Singapore (the beastly of them all), Indonesia, Iran (executing even teenagers and girls, sick country) and other similar evil countries; North America, especially the US and Mexico. Canada is an ideal destination, a very civilized and enlightened modern state. No act of barbarism has been reported from that beautiful country. On the other hand all sorts of horrors have been reported from the United States ( a truly evil country). North Africa, especially dangerous drug and fraud dens like Nigeria (supporting the murderous NTC). Libya should also be avoided since the Honourable Gaddafi is no longer there to maintain order and tranquility in that once beautiful and civilized country. Australia and New Zealand are also to be avoided due to recent violent death of innocent South Africans there. If you heed the above warning you will then be able to preserve your life.

      Donaker - 2011-12-13 09:24

      Vegi, your comments display an obvious and complete ignorance of the countries you make statements about. You say one should avoid Europe, except Russia (which you call a civilised and modern country, hahahaha). Having lived in the US, Europe and Russia, I have an idea about what goes on there, so let me ask you if the following Russian practices take place in Europe: boys are picked for the army by taking them from metro-stations without warning or notice to family, people are jailed without trial, there are extreme levels of corruption, etc You call Russia modern: except for the metro, the infrastructure is in extremely poor state (tram tracks weave about like a meandering river, roads are full of potholes), postal services don't function, there is very big divide between rich ("new Russians") and poor. Furthermore, what dangers does Europe hold for South Africans??? Please refrain from speaking about things you know nothing about.

  • Breinlekkasie - 2011-12-13 07:16

    A (yawn), how boring. Another day another criminal. It is not like South Africans are going to go extinct. I mean, South Africans managed to out breed HIV/Aids and TB.

  • Deon - 2011-12-13 07:26

    It is sad, but if you want to be a drug mule you should take the consequences as well. Go and have a look in the Cape Flats what tik do.

  • Pc - 2011-12-13 07:36

    One of Linden's relatives told The Mercury newspaper: "We communicated with letters. She said she didn't know how the drugs got into her luggage. She thought she was being framed. "Her sentence is not justified. How can you take a person's life for 3kg of methamphetamine?" IT'S NOT A PLEASANT EXPERIENCE 2 LOOSE A LOVED ONE. LOOK @ IT THIS WAY: 1 LIFE = 3 KG'S TIK, YES? 3 KG'S TIK = HOW MANY LIVES, NO? SHE WAS AN ADULT, SHE KNEW THE RISKS AND CONSEQUENCES INVOLVED WITH THE GAME SHE WAS PLAYING.

  • Cara - 2011-12-13 07:42

    This might be a little insensitive and I feel sorry for the family and whatever but this story seems to be getting so much publicity. Innocent people die EVERY DAY in this country and I don't think they get half as much media coverage. This woman was a drug smuggler who knew EXACTLY what she was doing when she carried 3kg of crystal meth into China of all countries! She did the crime and now she has been put to death in a humane way.. I don't think the victims of sensless crime in this country are afforded that much. I am NOT talking black on white or white on black before people start running away with themselves and leap onto the racial bandwagon. I am talking about all violent crime whether it's spousal, child or animal abuse - I think we can all stand united on that point.

  • Nicky - 2011-12-13 07:46

    I have no sympathy!!! How many people wash she going to kill with the drugs that she smuggled!!!! what happens if the drugs she supplied killed one of your loved ones!!!!

      dane.bezuidenhout - 2011-12-13 08:04

      Yes, no sympathy, consumers of drugs are completely blameless, its the evil drugs' fault. Therefore, she should die for transporting evil drugs to blameless people who use them. If more people were less stupid than you then there would be less drug abuse.

  • Kevin - 2011-12-13 07:48

    Where is the condemnation of the Chinese for their barbaric judicial system? Our Government should be condemning China for its lack of committment to human rights. Our trade with China, which our government rates as more important than human rights, is responsible for the destruction of jobs. This true of our textiles and clothing sector. They are responsible for the breach of laws governing intellectual property rights on a worldwide scal. The government allows the export of unprocessed minerals to China further impoverishing the poor and unskilled whilst enriching the Chancellor House few. When we claim a special relationship with Chinathrough BRICS it is worth nothing as it appears that they simply ignore us whilst continuing with their economic exploitation and colonistaion of South Africa with the ANC's help.

  • Leonard - 2011-12-13 07:48

    And we thought apartheid brought on by the "colonial white European" was bad and ravished Africa. The new yellow wave conquering and decimating Africa exploiting the greed of the African leaders will leave a barren wasteland, not bridges, dams and other infrastructure

  • Michael - 2011-12-13 08:03

    In SA she probably would have got a slap on the wrist!

  • Washington - 2011-12-13 08:07

    What if this woman was framed?Death sentence is an appropriate deteerent to heinous crimes but to kill someone for "glue" eish that's going too far.

  • Lerato - 2011-12-13 08:19

    Whoa to them dat don't follow God's Commands, rules and Government..... If you where part of the execution your Life will be removed in the book of Life.

  • hsnam - 2011-12-13 08:35

    You know the risk's, you take the chance, you pay the price! Death!