Farms are not special areas - Mthethwa

2013-01-31 10:57

Johannesburg - Farms are not special and do not deserve to have more police focus than any other area in the country, Police Minister Nathi Mthethwa said on Thursday.

"What I have refused to accede to is [the idea] that farms are special areas in our society," he said at a New Age breakfast briefing in Johannesburg.

"No, they are not. They are part and parcel of the rural safety plan."

He said the plan dealt with crime and violence in the "totality" of rural areas.

"We are talking about the villages... and general crime in the rural areas. Amongst those we also have farms."

Mthethwa said certain agricultural groups had been making farm murders political.

"We have said to those who want to do nasty politicking on this matter that they must take a broader view... and ensure that we talk about rural safety in totality."

'Bordering on collusion'

On 15 January, lobby group AfriForum said Mthethwa's silence on farm attacks bordered on collusion.

"The minister's silence on the scourge of farm attacks is a disgrace," AfriForum deputy CEO Ernst Roets said in a statement.

"If the minister is serious about the protection of South Africans, he would have declared farm attacks a priority crime years ago," he said.

Roets was reacting to reports of an elderly couple being found dead on a farm near Parys, in the Free State.

Mthethwa also discussed the need for greater oversight for the police.

"By their nature in society, police have more powers. They have powers to stop anybody and search anybody," he said.

"If those powers are unchecked, the tendency would be that people may abuse such powers."

It was important oversight bodies were put in place to police the police.

He said the Independent Police Investigative Directorate served this function.

  • Erna - 2013-01-31 11:02

    The only special area is zuma's compound - R200 million rands worth of security!!

      joe.irwin.50 - 2013-01-31 12:48

      Spot on Erna. The special farm.

      jmokgotlhoa - 2013-01-31 13:18

      The brain drain syndrome is manifesting itself within the ANC.

      piet.snot.77964 - 2013-01-31 16:33

      The animal's farm!

      warren.slater.353 - 2013-01-31 20:40

      Zumas compound should stop being called a compound. Compound elicits stark images of barest necessity while the truth is quite different

      Klaus - 2013-02-01 16:09

      said the @hole, surrounded by security guards

      nicholas.graan - 2013-02-02 10:01

      and you are not a special Minister Mthethwa. You are an arrogant ANC deployee who's political and ideological blinkers expose your dislike and historical resentment of white Afrikaaner farmers. All your gobbledygook and spin cannot hide the fact that you have no problem with them finally getting their "comeuppance"

  • silvia.vaneck2 - 2013-01-31 11:02

    Ahhhh...that is so enlightening! So the fact that farms produce the food we eat doesn't make them special?? I wonder Mr Mthemthwa will still feel that way when farms don't produce food any more and we have to import food at exorbitant prices??

      phillys.winterbottom - 2013-01-31 12:19

      Sivia, this brain dead clutz doesnt give a hoot about food shortages!! Like every good african in "powa" he is only worried about the next overseas junket on taxpayers money, and the launch of the latest model BMW.

      Nunu - 2013-01-31 12:30

      I agree with kagiso to a point, I don't want special SAPS attention. Its the same as no attention, they don't ever do anything, so why bother having them around.

      samuel.pienaar.7 - 2013-01-31 12:31

      @kagiso. The murder rate is 4 times higher on farmers then on the rest of the general population in the country. That is one reason why high priority should be placed on farm murders. Secondly the brutality of these murders shows that these murderers have deep, racist hate tendencies towards farmers. Thirdly the food that is on your plate is produced by these farmers. But I think you will probably only start to realize that farmers are important when you starve to death one day.

      ian.boyd.7503 - 2013-01-31 13:01

      @Kagiso - I like it that way too; no cops... no special treatment... no evidence...

      pillowcasephelo - 2013-01-31 13:30

      Kagiso. Thats on point. But does Mthethwa care what you think?

      ron.wale.3 - 2013-01-31 15:35

      Kagiso, are you saying that those who do NOT contribute to the fiscus should not be protected? Don't enter politics... you'll need more security than the fool who heads the country at present!

      sean.carbutt.9 - 2013-02-01 09:27

      @kagiso boy, BS. Lets get some facts straight here. Only 7 odd million people pay tax, that means that most of SA do not pay tax therefore they do not contribute to the GDP. Next, if 80% of SA is black then it is safe to assume that 80% of all crimes are committed by blacks, simple maths even you should understand. Next, the next time you shove that mickey d into your beck ask yourslef, where did the meat, bun, tomatoe come from? It was not grown by you township buddies, no sirre, it was grown by the farmers. Please tell me why your incompitent leader needs a compund with security? He aint special, well, special in a ka, kaaa way yes. Farmers, you now have the right to shoot on site. So any tresspasser on your land regardless of clour should be shot, then dumped oustdie the police station. Klaar

      Klaus - 2013-02-01 16:12

      phillys as someone was saying he does not worry about racist farmers as he buys his food from WW ??!

      womba.wonder - 2013-02-01 21:16

      We have been a net food IMPORTER for many, many years already. Have you not noticed? Imported food is very competitively priced too.

  • greig.saunders - 2013-01-31 11:02

    I would love to see Mthethwa's comments when there is no more food to put on the table, and no more money to pay for imported food! Food security (aka our SA farms) are one of the most important industries!!!! The government could be making a killing on exports if they supported farms and focused on growth of the farming industry. But alas, it is obviously not important to some...

      manuel.p.quintino - 2013-01-31 11:19

      They're already making a killing on our tax money

      gerald.umraw - 2013-01-31 12:25

      There is hardly any forethought when it comes to cabinet ministers, oh no wait let me digress there is...."more money, more power for me and my thieving friends".

  • Zuljin01 - 2013-01-31 11:02

    Until one of your family members of relatives are killed in a farm attack......

      Zuljin01 - 2013-01-31 11:03

      or not of

      JamesMWood - 2013-01-31 11:07

      Not only that, farmers also export a lot which makes up a good portion of our GDP! Without them many will be starving like in Zim today, looking for handouts and leftovers

      Pixi3kid - 2013-01-31 11:07

      i am just wondering out loud here... but i wonder if this will be his standpoint if the farmers were all blacks...

      bobby.rosewood.1 - 2013-01-31 14:43

      How about being killed in your house in Pretoria North? Is that less bad? Or in your shack in Diepsloot? would that be OK? U think the minister has a point. A macabre one. Point is murder is EVERYWHERE in SA. and if you don't get murdered, you get killed in a car crash.

  • asteyn - 2013-01-31 11:04

    I hope you never find yourself lost in "rural South Africa". You certainly will get a rude awakening when you get picked up by a few farmers, you know...just to show you that "rural South Africa" is nothing special... *what an idiot*

  • rollingstone.kanyane - 2013-01-31 11:06

    the recent survay shows that the ANC is a racist organisation and thefore Mthethwa will never regard the farm muder as a priority

  • Ayanda Daniel - 2013-01-31 11:06

    Haha. goodbye economy eish these idiots are stupid my God.

  • Jeremy - 2013-01-31 11:08

    Funnily enough I mostly agree with Mthethwa. Every life is precious, whether it's that of a farmer or that of a villager. The problem is the police in rural areas are generally incompetent in either case. What I'd like to know is whether farmers in general are taking the problem seriously. Back in the 70's and 80's, farmers under threat in Zimbabwe fortified their compounds and had their own radio network to aid quick reaction to any attack. If such measures aren't being instituted in SA now in 2013 - why on earth not? If the cops can't or won't help yourselves!

      Zuljin01 - 2013-01-31 11:14

      True Jeremy, and I am sure there are farmers in certain areas that do that, BUT in the end if will probably not help. Reason for me saying this, what will happen in the event of one of these farmers shoot and kill a trespasser ? 9 out of 10 times the farmer will probably be charged with manslaughter and end up in jail.... South Africa laws at this stage unfortunately protects the criminal and not the law abiding citizens.

      Jeremy - 2013-01-31 11:25

      Zuljin...if the farmer has fortified his compound - and the trespasser is in that compound - and is shot facing the farmer (not in the back running away) then the shooting is self defence, particularly if the trespasser is armed. A criminal case would have to be opened - but no court would find the farmer guilty in a case like that....

      erns.kleynhans.3 - 2013-01-31 11:53

      You are obviously not a farmer. They do have localized networks. Your story will change if somebody close to you is murdered on a farm... The murders are usually very violent and not coherent with normal 'motives' like robbery. Wake up please.

      gordon.turner.37 - 2013-01-31 11:56

      Of course they do and were - but the police canned the commando units and withdrew the support. It was abused in some areas, but in others it worked very well. If you are a farmer you are generally so isolated that only the very lucky get help in time to make a difference. If Jeremy thinks farmers don't work together for security he needs to get into the rural areas.

      elspeth.hassall - 2013-01-31 12:02

      Jeremy...the problem is that these murderers are now targeting the elderly people on farms, as these are "soft" targets...the cowards!

      bobby.rosewood.1 - 2013-01-31 14:46

      Good point. You can get 2 way radio's with a radius of 10km for a few hundred bucks. Then you can mobilize your farming community.

      ian.boyd.7503 - 2013-01-31 21:57

      They put a stop to the Commando's Jeremy. They do appreciate having someone on the farm so they can take a bit of a break from time to time. Good opportunity for us to get a bit of tracking/horse/rifle/bow practice in. We rough it, sleep in caves, under a tree. Difficult to know where we are. An incident only 2 weeks ago where my wife drew her bow on someone. Effective attitude adjustment therapy. I know how she shoots - I'd also back off.

      womba.wonder - 2013-02-01 21:21

      Of course murderers will target the weakest and most vulnerable. Murderers are not competitors in a bravery contest -- they are predators. And, just like a lion will choose the weakest and feeblest wildebeest in the herd, so too will a murderous thief. They'll target the easiest prey. It's therefore everyone's own duty not to be that easist prey by taking all the necessary precautions.

  • spikes.joubert - 2013-01-31 11:11

    What "Rural Safety Plan"????

      klipkop.degroote - 2013-01-31 11:54

      the 'kill a farmer' plan in action.

      elspeth.hassall - 2013-01-31 12:02

      Good question!

  • mandy.robinson.5074 - 2013-01-31 11:13

    He says as he stuffs his face with the produce from those very farms he refuses to protect........I guess if you had to ask him where the milk in his fridge came from, he'd say "My Spar"

      compos.mentis.58 - 2013-01-31 11:30

      More like Woolies on his fat salary...

  • manuel.p.quintino - 2013-01-31 11:13

    Within the next two to three days we will read about another brutal farm murder. The part time readers with no capacity for logical thought will say it's part of normal crime. Zuma and his political allies will continue singing shoot the boer and bring me my machine gun. Farmers should either vacate or offer a few bullets to the heads of trespassers

  • mastersvoice - 2013-01-31 11:14

    So does that mean Nklandla is also part and parcel of the rural safety plan?

      spikes.joubert - 2013-01-31 11:27

      Nkandla IS the Rural Safety Plan

  • victor.mendes1 - 2013-01-31 11:17

    No only top fatcat anc members are special as they get to rob and steal tax money and have no fear of the law! But our food producers are just fair game for the shoot the boer singing brigate, right minister?

  • jacques.debruyn.522 - 2013-01-31 11:18

    Then we should take the law into our own hands and shoot the bastards!!! This country will be worst off than Zimbabwe thanks to these uneducated idiots!!

  • glenda.gert - 2013-01-31 11:19

    Why should farmers get special attention? Do people have any idea how many people are killed in townships? Are they aware of robberies taking place? Do they actually know about the crime that is not reported on the media? I agree with the Minister here

      Jaap - 2013-01-31 11:25

      Gert, the farmers are producing the food that you consume so readily every day. If it was not for farmers we would be like the rest of Africa, no food and dependent on the west to prevent starvation. The mutilation and torture of the victims says it all.

      louis.wolmarans.90 - 2013-01-31 11:26

      Glenda.gert, please shut up! You obviously don't have family or friends staying on farms!

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2013-01-31 11:29

      Glenda. Gert. I agree about the murders and crime in townships, but that is not where your food is grown is it?.

      oistar.tutu.9 - 2013-01-31 11:30

      Glenda, they should get special treatment just as much as the townships do, and maybe more so because they are rural and far away from the police station. Dumb twit

      glenda.gert - 2013-01-31 11:31

      Jaap the people in townships are the one that eat that food. Without them who would the farmers sell to? every life is precious

      manuel.p.quintino - 2013-01-31 11:37

      Sometimes it's better to shut up then to display your ignorance

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2013-01-31 11:54

      Glenda Gert, the food they don't sell goes overseas where it earns much needed overseas funds for South Africa. Do a bit of homework first.

      abdul.cassiem.9 - 2013-01-31 11:56

      So Gert what do you eat? Jy is n dom (d....s)

      thapelo.masemola - 2013-01-31 12:03

      In those farms, who are the workers? Most of the workers have families in the rural areas. If the farm worker gets killed while visiting home because the farms were made a priority, who is going to labour for the farm. Or are you guys saying that the life of the farm worker is insignificant compared to that of the farm owner? The argument here about the prioritization of farms is just flawed. No one/area deserve special treatment, afterall; all life is precious.

      richard.payn.12 - 2013-01-31 12:19

      Glenda, Please get your IQ tested and see if you qualify for life!

      benjamin.testingtripp - 2013-01-31 12:33

      Glenda is absolutely right. While I am sympathetic to the farmers and their situation, EVERY life is precious. And last time i checked, I paid for my food, it didn't get handed to me for nothing. Commercial farmers don't grow food out of some admirable humanitarian duty to feed us, they do it to earn a living. For money. They are not more special than anyone just because they grow food, for crying out loud what about teachers, medical professionals, even the guy that drives the trucks that deliver the food? And most farmers can afford to invest in security measures - something that plenty of people in townships and rural areas can't do. Totally agree with Minister Mthethwa, farms don't deserve special police attention. The entire country - urban and rural - deserves more police attention, because nowhere is the crime situation under control and in hand. And that is a bigger issue than just the police - we are talking tougher sentences, more prisons, better quality of police training, more secure borders...we could go on...

      byron.matthews.562 - 2013-01-31 16:07

      @benjamin.testingtripp- farmers are probably farming purely for altruistic reasons. The rest of us eat for free, so when we die it's just one less mouth to feed.

      womba.wonder - 2013-02-01 21:27

      Quite correct. Farmers are ORDINARY citizens like everyone else. They are NOT special snowflakes. And we are NOT dependent on them for the food we eat. We can obtain food at our nearest shop which has been produced by farmers in other countries at prices no different to locally-produced goods. This isn't 1652 any more. Besides, all farmers are not food-producers (cotton, oilseed, tobacco, flowers, etc.) Are non-food farmers then less worthy than food-farmers? The idea is absurd.

  • Brian Dorning - 2013-01-31 11:22

    Wait till a farmer kills in self defense, then it will be racism...

  • jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2013-01-31 11:23

    Mthethwa if they were black farmers you would sing a different song. Who was it that said the ANC is racist?. Spot on.

  • jacques.debruyn.522 - 2013-01-31 11:27

    @Glenda.. Because the farmers are honest hard working people that provide food to the country.... What are those people in the townships doing for this country besides voting for a corrupt government and killing each other!! Get with the program!! Or go vote ANC!!

      psalm.proverb.3 - 2013-01-31 12:28

      @ Jacques Your racist tendencies are a hoot. The majority of the workforce in SA is BLACK. The people in the townships, that you speak of contemptuously of, are teachers, nurses, firefighters, lawyers, doctors, writers, businessmen and businesswomen, mothers, fathers, children, etc. Their lives are JUST AS IMPORTANT as the lives of farmers. Growing food does not make one a priority victim - not here or anywhere else in the world. There is a clear arrogant, racist streak from many whites here - which will never be tolerated by sane people. Screeching that someone grows food does not make them a "special status crime victim". Farmers sell their produce - they don't give it for free. Those who cannot afford to pay for what the farmers produce and struggle to find food most days are UNLIKELY to be worse off if these farmers stop farming. The farmers are feeding ONLY those who can afford to PAY FOR FOOD. If you guys want "special treatment", try moving to a Nazi-infested country and leave SA in peace. No farmer's life deserves more respect than that of a non-farmer. Period.

      simon.smith.3150807 - 2013-01-31 14:56

      @ psalm.proverb - You silly fool - Can you not see your beautiful country falling down around your ears - your corrupt government crumbling - your stunning infrastructure being eroded by tenderpreneurs - or are you one of the New Black Diamonds driving an X6 or a Panamera? You guys need to protect the few white folk that are left!! They make up the backbone of this country - Are you aware that the 18 000 whites left in Zimbabwe (From +-400 000) still make up in excess of 70% of the GDP of the country, and employ over 80% of the employed folk in Zim!!! Whites are not the only racists here my friend - take your blinkers off and open your eyes!!!

      Joe - 2013-01-31 15:22

      @ Simon, white's contribution to Zim Economy is very limited at the moment. They are no longer involved in the economy on a wide scale like before, and those figures are wrong if what I saw over the holidays is anything to go by.

      christinevanduuren - 2013-02-01 07:38

      @psalm.proverb ... so what are you saying ... it costs nothing to producer food??? Think before you make illogical statements.

  • compos.mentis.58 - 2013-01-31 11:28

    Dear Minister, please join me at some stage that I can brief you about why food security is special as it seems to me you can not grasp the link between farms and food security.

      womba.wonder - 2013-02-01 21:40

      Don't confuse "food security" with "self-sufficiency" -- they are entirely different things unless the country is under siege and blockade, which we are unlikely ever to be. "Food security" simply means we CAN obtain adequate food-stocks from suppliers, whether they be local or foreign. And that we do not depend on a single source of supply (which may suffer crop failures, floods or drought) but we buy from all over the world, so that a shortage in one region is made good by a surplus in another region of the globe. If we can do this, then we do have "food security".

  • kyle.white.39750 - 2013-01-31 11:30

    Stupidity at its best. Like dumb. Really really very dumb.

  • sbisschoff - 2013-01-31 11:30

    They only produce the food we need to survive every day. Nothing special about that.

  • kyle.white.39750 - 2013-01-31 11:30

    Yes it willllllll.

  • jennifer.a.erasmus - 2013-01-31 11:31

    I guess he is not too worried about our wine farms as he only drinks the imported stuff.

  • corrinneb1 - 2013-01-31 11:33

    I find it strange that farmers are not special, however that provide the food we consume for survival. Our dear Mr President Zuma's safety is i agree of National interest however to the tune of R206000000.00. Surely the safety of each individual should be of utmost importance

  • johan.botha.355 - 2013-01-31 11:33

    Making sense - out of goverment perspective. Easiest way to get farmers of their farms !

  • derrick.villiers - 2013-01-31 11:35

    okay so food for the people of the country and money for this country is not important??? mmmmmmmm clever man!!!!!

      womba.wonder - 2013-02-01 21:41

      What is NOT important is where that food was grown.

  • albert.kriel.1 - 2013-01-31 11:35

    So true they are not special!! they only produce food and export items that bring money into the country surely they dont need protection this man is absolutely right

      womba.wonder - 2013-02-01 21:43

      All exporters bring money into the country. Miners bring in far more money than farmers. Are exporters more worthy citizens than importers?

  • Mr.Fouche - 2013-01-31 11:36

    My biggest issue with this country is, when someone attacks it with a gun, panga or knop kierie...In your house or wherever... If I shoot the person to defend myself...I get arrested. And suddenly he is the victim.

      womba.wonder - 2013-02-01 21:46

      It only applies if the courts decide the force you used was grossly disproportionate in the circumstances. (If, say, you as a strong and hefty 120kg grown man, shot a 45kg 14 year old unarmed girl whom you had caught breaking in in broad daylight.)

  • nico.eksteen.7 - 2013-01-31 11:37

    They don't care about the killings fullstop, neither on farms nor in the townships. It's out of control everywhere.

  • jacques.debruyn.522 - 2013-01-31 11:37

    Zuma made him say that!!! Lol

  • leondlg - 2013-01-31 11:38

    Mthethwa, you are also not special. You dont need security guards and police to guard you.

  • jaun.lombard.9 - 2013-01-31 11:38

    food security is not a priority?

      womba.wonder - 2013-02-01 21:47

      We don't depend on SA farmers for food security.

  • mthokozisi.mbele - 2013-01-31 11:39

    Incompetent ministers ,what is special ,Zuma homestead ....waaaaa

  • mthokozisi.mbele - 2013-01-31 11:39

    Incompetent ministers ,what is special ,Zuma homestead ....waaaaa

  • noeln.petzer - 2013-01-31 11:44

    TRUE! Why should only farmers be tortured and murdered ... the people everywhere also have a right to be tortured and murdered ... For the ignorant - that is sarcasm!

  • pierre.walt - 2013-01-31 11:47

    Show his knowledge and education. Sot!! One farmer produces more for the country than a whole rural village. Villages just demand without giving back anything. Look at Nkandla village...

  • pierre.walt - 2013-01-31 11:47

    Show his knowledge and education. Sot!! One farmer produces more for the country than a whole rural village. Villages just demand without giving back anything. Look at Nkandla village...

      womba.wonder - 2013-02-01 21:49

      Those people and their ancestors somehow made it through life for over a thousand years before any white person was ever spotted in their region. Don't over-estimate your own importance.

  • Paul - 2013-01-31 11:48

    True,all areas within the republic are special and we all need protection from criminals,political groups should fight for safety of all groups,statistics tells you of how many people are killed in this country and not even half of those are farm attacks,famers,doctors,teachers,police,nurses,engineers and the unemployed people dezev equal protectionfrom criminal

  • faizal.m.essop - 2013-01-31 11:49

    maybe he has a point. does someone know the crime stats especially murder related to theft in rural areas. then compare the rate of farmers deaths compared to other citizens in the same area. I am sure the answer will show a demographic imbalance related to farmer deaths. then this idiot can shut his mouth.

      womba.wonder - 2013-02-01 21:53

      Criminals WILL always pick the lowest-hanging fruit. If you're isolated in a remote area, far from rescue and with hardly any security in place, you're going to be that lowest-hanging fruit. So it's up to you to protect yourself by all legal means necessary.

  • abdul.cassiem.9 - 2013-01-31 11:50

    Mr M jy vreet seker k....k want dit lyk nie ver my jy weet waar jou kos vandaan KOM nie. I keep on saying to t ANC government if u don't know what to say than shut up geeees stop making an A..... Of yourself

      abigail.botes - 2013-01-31 15:37

      Hahaha lag ek lekker dink hy eet defn k..k dom twat!

      womba.wonder - 2013-02-01 21:55

      Sy kos -- nes jou kos -- koop hy in die winkel en dis vir hom -- en vir jou -- om't ewe waarvandaan daardie kos kom, of dit nou Parys Vrystaat of Parys Frankryk is.

  • herbert.smith.9655 - 2013-01-31 11:54

    Makes absolutely sense, as the method behind the madness is to get rid of white farmers and grab the land to give each one in the country his 100sq meter of land to farm on !!! This is so similar to Zim but without officially sanctioning the murders as foreign investment is so needed. Government take note of foreign investors "ABSA" Polioy - Anywhere But South Africa.

  • martin.neate - 2013-01-31 11:54


      womba.wonder - 2013-02-01 21:56

      In a word, no. And he's said so.

  • bev.armstrong.372 - 2013-01-31 11:54

    Really! There is a Rural Safety Plan in place? Where? Who enforces it? Looks to me like it does not work!

  • peejay.maclane - 2013-01-31 11:56

    Who commits these crimes? Our own community. Our own family but we don't report them to the police. When I say farmers I don't mean a white person but a professional farmer. Farmers are vulnerable due to the fact that they leave far apart and isolated. These criminals target them. Police are not here to solve social problems but arrest these filth sorry human being who deserve to shoot and killed once n for all. Farmers are the back bone of these country n they need to protected at all times or else the whole country will starve to death.

  • elspeth.hassall - 2013-01-31 11:56

    Wonder who "sponsored"this breakfast????

  • erns.kleynhans.3 - 2013-01-31 11:57

    Then they ask us whiteys why we have racism tendencies. Please see some of the photos taken of these murders... it's extremely violent, more than a 'robbery' would require, thus I believe the intention is racial hatred. But don't worry, the wheel turns... slowly but surely!

      womba.wonder - 2013-02-01 21:57

      And a turning wheel does not stop. It keeps turning and you end up where you started.

  • bert.d.jager - 2013-01-31 11:59

    Bring terug die BrandWag FFS!!!!!!!

  • Abdulcarrim Essa - 2013-01-31 12:00

    The day farmers run away from this country, then the whole nation will regret. just like zimbabwe. i say try and make a plan to immigrate from this country.

      womba.wonder - 2013-02-01 21:58

      If you immigrate, you come IN. If you leave the country you EMIGRATE.

  • kent.harding.9 - 2013-01-31 12:00

    So lets say sum1 was attacking power plants or water distribution plants nd killn the operators. Would u look at that as a genral industrial crime of the same priority as a murder down da street?? I doubt it! Im sure mr m eats 5 star imported meals bt other ppl in sa rely on local products to survive. No farms no food.

      womba.wonder - 2013-02-01 22:00

      So, how come SA has been a net food IMPORTER for many years? We're eating food grown overseas too. We'll not starve if local farmers stop farming. This isn't the 17th century any more.

  • jacques.jacobs.180 - 2013-01-31 12:07

    Well Mthethwa, I hope you're growing your own food somewhere or is Julius going to give you some cabbages once all the farmers are dead or have given up and our food supply dwindles. "Stupid is as stupid does" comes to mind here.

      womba.wonder - 2013-02-01 22:02

      Have a look at the labels on the food in your local supermarket and perhaps you'll grasp why SA is a net food IMPORTER. We're really not dependent on local farmers.