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Farmworkers threaten more militant protests

2012-11-18 22:27

Johannesburg - Farmworkers on Sunday threatened to go back to the streets if their demand of a R150 minimum wage was not heeded.

The Coalition of Farm Worker Representatives said that the strike by farmworkers had been suspended until government made a determination on the minimum wage.

"We have given the government until 4 December to institute the minimum wage of R150 per day and to concede to our other demands that farmworker are in the process of gathering.

"If they do not do so, 4 December will see the intensification of protest actions, both in scope and in militancy," said the organisation's spokesperson Billy Xabela.

He said the organisation rejected views that the strike in the Western Cape farms was the outcome of interventions by outside forces.

"We recognise that some workers have decided to return to work for now and some to continue striking.

"Our immediate task is to support farmworkers whether they are back at work or still striking." Xabela said government both at national and provincial level had "consistently" listened to the farmers rather than the farmworkers.

"To date it is only the minister of agriculture that has shown an interest in the protests of the farmworkers."

Police

He condemned the behaviour of the police during the strike and said they conducted themselves as "thugs".

The organisation also demanded the release of farmworkers who had been arrested for intimidation and public violence during the strike. Over the weekend, police continued to monitor areas of the Western Cape which had been affected by the protests of striking farmworkers.

On Friday, protesters looted shops and torched businesses in the Hex River Valley and roads in the province, including the N2, were blockaded with rocks and burning tyres.

Protests over wages in the province spread across the Boland, with table grape harvesters demanding to be paid R150 a day. Most earned between R69 and R75 a day.

The labour department met with various farmers' unions on Friday and negotiations are set to start on Thursday.

The Commission for Conciliation, Mediation, and Arbitration would mediate the talks.

The department called for interested parties to comment on a possible review of the sectoral determination for farmworkers, which prescribes minimum wages and conditions of employment.

About 300 farmworkers who went on strike in Wolseley in the Western Cape returned to work on Friday, according to the SA National Civic Organisation.

Provincial general secretary Vusi Myeki said the workers agreed to suspend the strike for at least two weeks pending a decision on the farmworkers' minimum wage.

Comments
  • jan.botha.5 - 2012-11-18 23:01

    I think its about time people really thought about whats happening in the Western Cape. I suggest that there is a political agenda here and that the ANCYL is behind it all. They have previously said that they will make the Western Cape ungovernable in order to get rid of the DA. The kindergarten are not in the least bit concerned about the farm workers, their agenda is to mobilise anyone that they can to get their own way.

      laura.levatte - 2012-11-19 08:24

      Agreed. Bet half of them arent even farm workers. What I heard is that the guys at the side of the road are being paid R100 to go cause k*k

  • veldt66 - 2012-11-18 23:14

    R69 a day in 2012????? Modern slavery!!! nothing else.

      lacrimose.wolf - 2012-11-18 23:21

      I agree, but understand who legislated this slavery in the 1st place

      marius.jordaan.98 - 2012-11-18 23:24

      You seem like a well travelled chap? Care to elaborate on why you can afford such travels and these poor people not?

      frans.naude - 2012-11-18 23:31

      Probableigh because he was schooled!

      devon.riley.52 - 2012-11-19 03:01

      @veld it's better than Zero rands per day. If they don't like the pay why don't they quit and make way for millions of other unemployed people who would only be too gratefull to earn R 69 per day. Apparently in Malawi the wage is R10 per day.

      blip.noodlum - 2012-11-19 06:46

      How's this? If you don't like the way things are turning out in SA then emigrate. No, don't try to insist on staying because it's your RIGHT to be there, you belong there and you want to stay and and to fight to make things better. If you don't like it as it is, just move on out. Right now. (It sounds unreasonable and offensive, doesn't it? Yet this is EXACTLY what people are telling unhappy farm labourers -- if you don't like it, just quit and move away.)

      carel.burger - 2012-11-19 07:41

      What do you think minimum wage is in China where most of our products we buy come from? Its the same, some places less. Have you ever had a problem checking what clothes you buy or where your electronics come from. What is so different with the minimum wage of our country? Increasing it will just bring up inflation and shift even more work to China or people from other nationalities who is very happy to work for that money. If its not for cheap labour the middle class in South Africa and else where in the world would not be able to live the lives we do.

      mike.bester1 - 2012-11-19 07:42

      No problem ,pay them R150.00 a day ,,we don’t mind paying R 150,00 rand for a pocket of potatoes (that what will need to happen )you double the salary ,you will need to double the food prices ?

      carel.burger - 2012-11-19 09:46

      @Toby, I agree, they do need to increase the wage, but more than double is just insane. They need to ask for a realistic increase. Something like this has happened in our community and the farmer just get a harvester to do the job for cheaper. If they keep going on like this they will have no jobs. The farmers had enough of their labour problems. Although a complete different topic, most of the labourers pay gets wasted on alcohol, and then the farmer has to deal with domestic problems as well. I am not sure exactly which labourers wants the wage increase, but remember if you are a permanent employee and live on the farm, you get accommodation, water and electricity for free. If you look at it from that angle the minimum wage is not too bad. But this is only for full time labourers and not the seasonal ones.

      carel.burger - 2012-11-19 09:52

      Oh if I might add, why does the government provide housing for the people in the townships but they have done nothing to help the farmers improve the lives of the labourers? The farmers have to take control of this by themselves without any help of the government.

      BigChiefPlumbPudding - 2012-11-19 11:15

      1) Please read the definition of Slavery. 2) What do you pay someone who can do nothing else but walk up to a bush and pick something off it, and has to think of nothing else but this? Having said that, I do agree that IF the farm is showing massive profits, then yes, pay better if possible. But, how will we ever know. As far as I'm concerned, make it compulsory to present the books and let's see. If the owners are making millions every year, then by all means, start paying the workers better.

      saintbruce.bruce - 2012-11-19 12:36

      Please take note. The daily pay is CASH rate only and is gazetted under a Sectoral Determination for Farm Workers. The fact that food, clothing, housing, schooling and other benefits are provided by farmers to their workers is never discussed as the whole package in value terms. Only the daily wage set by the government is the issue. Or at least this is what is touted as the issue. Why are there no riots in this regard anywhere else if it such a burning issue? I have friends who are farmers in the Cape and what they experience is not what is being reported! I am more inclined to blieve a political agenda here being instigated by the ANC. When faced with huge problems on your own front lawn, it is a great idea to start a fire on your neighbours back yard to divert attention away! My version of The Art of War by Sun Tzu.

  • indianajohn - 2012-11-18 23:17

    Strike: A cessation of work by employees in support of demands made on their employer, as for higher pay or improved conditions. Riot: A wild or turbulent disturbance created by a large number of people. What strike?

      marius.jordaan.98 - 2012-11-18 23:18

      exactly, my dear literate friend

      omge.klits - 2012-11-19 01:33

      mechanisation: a response that swiftly follows in the wake of an impossible labour situation . . . . .

      blip.noodlum - 2012-11-19 06:47

      mechanisation: expensive enough to cause bankruptcy in weeks.

      hugo.mcdonald.7 - 2012-11-26 17:08

      @blip: And what do you think will happen when the workers destroy expensive farm equipment that rthe FARMER has to replace so that the FARMWORKER can continue working at an increased rate without compensating the farmer for damages?

  • Adil Smit - 2012-11-18 23:20

    Very strange that with farms ALL over South Africa, only the DA-led W-Cape is targeted.

      lacrimose.wolf - 2012-11-18 23:33

      The min wage increase for farm workers was announced in Feb 2012 and agreed to by the DoL and Unions. Interesting that 8 months later they suddenly disagree and target employers - who by all accounts are paying over the *legislated* minimum anyway. The logical thing would be to go after the organisations who decided the minimum in the first place. But when are mobs ever logical?

      terrylee.heuer - 2012-11-18 23:51

      Yes that's true just recently a Limpopo farmer was fined R28mil for non compliance he owns 20 farms and there was no sign of protests before!!! He is SA second biggest tomatoe farmer just seems strange!! But at the time he was fined the WC had said all their farmers were all compliant and then suddently the violent protests!!!!!

      brian.exmachina - 2012-11-19 00:05

      My thinking exactly. And after all that talk a while back of making the Western Cape ungovernable... mmm, coincidence... not.

      blip.noodlum - 2012-11-19 06:53

      The MINIMUM wage is like the minimum speed limit on a freeway. It really isn't requiring all motorists to drive that slowly on average. The minimum wage is only intended for beginner workers who are not yet as productive as regular, experienced hands. To pay a regular, long-serving worker the minimum wage (just because the law blocks you from paying any lower) is an insult and it is exploitation. And workers who are insulted and exploited get furious enough to burn their workplace to the ground. So, connect the dots, you fans of minimum wage.

      phillip.vanniekerk.5 - 2012-11-19 08:05

      Noodlum, I had to take what I got from my employer. I was not happy with my pay, neither did I burn the Company I worked for to the ground. Wake up boytjie! Act like a human for a change!

  • rowan.maulson - 2012-11-18 23:24

    Turns out this Billy Xabela is both an "Emerging Farmer" as well as a an independent candidate endorsed by the Democratic Left Front (whoever they happen to be)

      marius.jordaan.98 - 2012-11-18 23:29

      he must turn around. he is emerging at the wrong end.

      rob.bayliss.94 - 2012-11-19 10:09

      Check: http://www.democraticleft.za.net/ and you will get the ideas behind this group. Including a demand for a minimum wage for ALL workers of R12,500 per month.

  • terrylee.heuer - 2012-11-18 23:57

    Oh now its \militant\ protests!!! Its not ok to violently protest read the Constitution!!!! Unions must be held responsible for all damage to property and for all looting!!!! I just can't understand how Zuma is allowing this to happen!!!!

      sam.ntshangase - 2012-11-19 00:08

      This is hapening in the WCape Zile must solve it as she promised farmers

      marius.jordaan.98 - 2012-11-19 00:17

      Sam...ask for your schooling money back and buy a Merc. You'll get farther that way.

      lacrimose.wolf - 2012-11-19 00:22

      JZ's too busy trying to sort out back-dated bond documents to show the public, to be bothered with this trivial issue. If recent history is any guide, more than 40 people need to die before he'll have an opinion

      ranase - 2012-11-19 03:22

      zuma is a thousand miles away. the baas is the one who SHOULD be dealing with boykies..

  • Danie Joubert - 2012-11-19 00:48

    I take my hat of to the SAPS! They cannot set a foot wrong and is immediately made out as thugs if do. But the lawlessness of the people participating in the strike can continue and they can kill people, through them with rocks, burns shops, burns cars, loot and plunder and destroy virtually anything in their paths and that is acceptable? NO! Let them restore law and order..... ANY MEANS NECESSARY!!!!

      blip.noodlum - 2012-11-19 06:58

      Kragdadigheid has an unerring habit of always rebounding far harder on the person trying to be the tough guy. You'll end up losing bigger than the reasonable person does. Every time.

  • Danie Joubert - 2012-11-19 00:48

    I take my hat of to the SAPS! They cannot set a foot wrong and is immediately made out as thugs if do. But the lawlessness of the people participating in the strike can continue and they can kill people, through them with rocks, burns shops, burns cars, loot and plunder and destroy virtually anything in their paths and that is acceptable? NO! Let them restore law and order..... ANY MEANS NECESSARY!!!!

      blip.noodlum - 2012-11-19 08:19

      They must never break the law in upholding the law. That is unprofessional.

  • irvin.mkhari - 2012-11-19 01:00

    There are monsters who always talk nonsense,they even do not know how to work in farms.they use my PEOPLE for their own benefits,paying farm workers cents taking the entire money to Europe,america and Britain while my PEOPLE suffering.the capitalist put themselves in the role of indigenous PEOPLE.this has to be stopped.

      lacrimose.wolf - 2012-11-19 01:12

      So go back to the Commission, the Labour Court, the Constitutional Court. Right now the legislated minimum wage is R7.71 per hour. That is what the Alliance agreed to - the govt of South Africa as voted for by the people of South Africa. You have many legal ways to stop it and many organisations you can work with in a sane and legal way. There is no need for setting fire to things, stoning, looting and closing roads.

      blip.noodlum - 2012-11-19 08:21

      The minimum wage is not the appropriate way to recompense experienced, long-serving workers. To do so is exploitation.

      hugo.mcdonald.7 - 2012-11-26 17:13

      @blip: Ok...how about minimum wage + housing + water + electricity? I dont know if the last two are included for all, but just housing is already a big deal!

      hugo.mcdonald.7 - 2012-11-26 17:22

      ...How about an increase to R150 and then charge R80/day for housing and utilities?

  • alaina.robbertse - 2012-11-19 02:10

    Whenever there is trouble then the ANC is looking for a place to hide.Zuma for one joined the liar club and he thinks he can lie his way out of every thing.What a hopeless leader.The worst in the world

      maureen.churchill.9 - 2012-11-19 11:16

      Where is MALEMA, guarantee he is lurking around there spurring them on, he has been too quiet for too long. If I was a farmer at this time I would burn my own vines, no vines no work, that is what is going to happen eventually by these strikers.

  • Mandy Stone Necroluna - 2012-11-19 02:34

    Ranase... can you please explain to me why you continue to ignore the fact that these people are supplied with electricity, water, food, housing, schooling and benefits at the expense of the farmer? With all that taken care of, their salaries are freed up for other things. Most working people don't have the luxury of employers taking care of their basic needs, but have to eake out a living on what they are paid. Why do you refuse to acknowledge that there is a prescribed method of deciding minimum wage rates and it's not in the hands of the farmers? I'll tell you why; because you WANT to sow dissent. Because you WANT to blame the white man. Because you are a simpleton. Plain as day. In fact, if you had any sort of logical, educated brain, you'd actually research the methods prescribed by government, the way in which the economy turns, and you'd then realise that all this bullsh*t is causing us to sink faster than ever during a time of global crisis in which the majority of black, white, Indian and Coloured alike are battling to put food on the table on a daily basis. As it stands, our personal income is finished after payday - we by no means live a luxury life, don't own a property even. It's a week away from payday and we're stressed because there isn't 2c to rub together and we need petrol to get to work until pay day. Do you think the employer should pay my petrol bill? I'm white. Do you think the employer gives a rats a$$ about that fact? Nope, sorry. Either we get to work or we have no job. Open and shut case. Catch a wake up and start finding out what real life is like for almost all of us irrespective of race. The farm workers actually have a good deal going. What they earn is more than what I earn a month. This goes for the rest of you who refuse to actually consider reason for long enough to have the truth make sense to you!!! Listen to what some of these guys are trying to tell you! They know what they are talking about, they're not hating you because of your race or advocating slavery. WTF is wrong with you already?

      lacrimose.wolf - 2012-11-19 02:45

      @Mandy Stone Necroluna - Ranase is just another lazy South African who believes that having voted and/or paid his union membership fees that is the end of his contribution to his own life. Anything that happens after that is simply someone else's fault - the most convenient scapegoat being what he has been brainwashed with. People like Ranase have zero concept of fear or worry because they are not active participants in their lives. All they have is hate and torpor.

      ReaperAJ - 2012-11-19 03:02

      Yep, and it's so damn sad too. If he's educated enough to have an opinion, he's educated enough to go in search of the truth. He's educated enough to make the right decision for his country; not only the "white man", but all of us across the board. They keep branding the white man racist, and truth to tell, with all this hatred aimed at us, it's really hard at times to dig deep and remember that not all black people think this way, not all black people are filled with the same hatred. People like him are the one's that bring this country down because they refuse to see the whole picture. Narrow minded thinking is the ruination of man. At the rate in which my family battles, and in fact has all my life, I wish I had a job with free board and logding. How nice it would be to have the rest of my money freed up to buy a car, perhaps invest in a savings account even and not worry about my future or the future of my kids whose education is becoming increasingly expensive. University is definitely not on the cards for my children unless I win the damn lottery, that's for sure, OR they get out there and earn part time wages to help pay for it. Sad reality of the white man, I'm afraid Ranase. But nooo, we live wonderful, luxurious lives, don't we? Yeah RIGHT! I'm all for better lives for all, I'm all for better wage rates for all, but this is not the time as the world is facing economic meltdown.

      mawandewonderman.mkuba - 2012-11-19 06:01

      Ranase dnt mind them atleast the free world understands you.

      ReaperAJ - 2012-11-19 08:00

      @Ranase - answer the question I put to you in the first place you twit. Perhaps it is beyond you to do so because you are incapable of rational thought. @mawandewonderman - only the uneducated understand your brand of drivel.

      thabo.moela.547 - 2012-11-19 11:27

      @ReaperAJ will you stay in that kind of housing, will you eat that kind of food and which schools are u talking abt?

  • Willie Olivier - 2012-11-19 04:53

    I've got a solution to the problem; Pay them the wage (R150) they want; but then tell them to move out of there houses on the farm where they stay most probably for free, tell them that they have to feed themselves from now on; tell them the farm schools the farmer is financing is no longer so they have to put their kid in a school somewhere else and and pay for their transport to school like everybody else in this country.

      ReaperAJ - 2012-11-19 08:12

      @tnmunyai - yes, please go ahead and do so. It will plunge your beloved country into it's darkest days yet. Lets see what you do then when your entire infrastructure totally falls apart and you're all starving in the streets with your hands out to the rest of the world for food. Zimbabwe is just a farm grab away my friend. Amazing how when all the grand plans fail, you look to the very people you accuse of invading your land for help. So do it and sit with it. The farmers will move elsewhere and take their skills with them, farm their food and charge the heck out of SA when it is forced to source produce elsewhere. Lets see what the then non existent farm workers do to get fed.

      johan.uys.75 - 2012-11-19 08:14

      Yes tnmunyai you are right, give them no "compasation".

      Michael - 2012-11-19 10:03

      @johan - perhaps he was trying to say 'compassion'?

  • Willie Olivier - 2012-11-19 04:58

    Don't drag the Japanese in to this! They are hardworking

  • Mariaan Viljoen - 2012-11-19 06:11

    You know what? they will never understand so people, don't waste your breath. nobody said they must work on that farms, they did that out of their own free will. AFTER seeing his wages, free schooling, free housing, free food etc. they just want everything for free. I am 100% with the police, I think they are sick and tired of all this barbarism

  • Strikeback - 2012-11-19 06:20

    Why is more strike action needed? Is the beer and meat finished you looted a couple of days ago? Time to target the gift shops. Money might be scarce over Christmas. And remember to stay away from COSATU head office over Christmas, you will have to pay e-toll on your way there! Dismiss striking workers and report them to Strikeback. www.strikeback.co.za

  • abner.malema - 2012-11-19 06:25

    U have been exploited for a long time. U deserve even more

      maureen.churchill.9 - 2012-11-19 11:30

      Abner, I'm going to see you cry one day, you don't see the big picture the economy of this country is being destroyed. I implore you to go to the communist countries and check out what they earn and their conditions. We are no longer a 3rd world country but a 5th world country, and a laughing stock to the world. If you don't get your way throw down the gauntlet and strike.

  • marius.vanrooyen.37 - 2012-11-19 06:29

    Mawamde. You are a right idiot! If the farmers "fly west", you will all starve. The farmers are doing YOU a favor by making it possible to the buy the food they produce. A bread does come from Spar!

      gerald.parker.3956 - 2012-11-19 07:31

      Sam What farming and who FORCED them to work on a farm The vineyard that you want came from Europe so it will go back and you will left with open veld and rocks.

      mawandewonderman.mkuba - 2012-11-19 07:38

      Insult me all you want but in the end our way will be the way. You will always be the manority.

      ReaperAJ - 2012-11-19 08:23

      @Sam.ntshangase - I never removed anyone from their land and I never forced anyone to be my slave either. I was born long after that. Get that part straight. You are talking to people here who came way after slavery and colonisation. If you can refer to us as slave drivers in this Western world, then we should rightfully be able to refer to you as a barbarian, seeing as that is what you came from, deep in the bush. See what I mean? It sounds ridiculous, doesn't it? Do you have any farming knowledge? Do you think it works the same way as having a small vegetable patch in your back yard? Do you know anything at all about Agriculture? Have you studied it? If so, then yes, you deserve to run a farm, so go on to the bank, get finance and buy yourself one, like everyone else has to. Make it profitable and put your money where your mouth is or stop being a fool who wastes everyone's time with your embarrassing lack of insight into how the real world works. In case you haven't noticed, it's 2012, not 1700 in dark Africa where people kill each other over the land and cows they want to take from the opposing tribe. FOOL!

      sam.ntshangase - 2012-11-19 08:40

      @ReaperAJ,leave don't tell us nonsense that's what Mugabe told u until you stuborns left empty handed

      ReaperAJ - 2012-11-19 21:02

      @Sam.ntshangase - really? The farmers who left Zimbabwe empty handed took their skills and knowledge elsewhere. Many went to Zambia where they were welcomed with open arms. They now farm their maize there and charge the heck out of Zimbabwe for it because Zimbabwe's agriculture fell apart after the farms were taken. Unless you're completely stupid, you must be aware of how Zimbabwe went into a food crisis and their currency became worthless, hence the reason why they are now on the US $ currency and hence the reason why they have to outsource their produce. So, as I said, go ahead please and do this here. I will be waiting in line to laugh at you all as you reach out to the rest of the world for help. The white man you hate so much will always land back on his feet because he has the smarts and the guts to go it hard to get somewhere. Proven fact if you consider the white farmers chased out of Zimbabwe. Have a lovely evening as you chew on that and try to come back at me with some hopefully intelligent piece of insight I haven't considered yet.

      ppisciotta - 2012-11-20 03:42

      mawandewonderman - Judging from your ability to write English you will forever be stupid. "Manority"? Do you think that is a word? No one needs to insult you - you do a perfect job of insulting yourself.

  • danie.antwerpen - 2012-11-19 06:41

    Agree with talk and no violence. Lets be honest their wages are shocking especially if they don't get accommodation or housing on the farms. R100 per day is fair - that will give R2200 for 22 working days.

      mawandewonderman.mkuba - 2012-11-19 07:34

      Would you if u were them be content with that? Please open your mind, Open mind.

  • eduard.marais.5 - 2012-11-19 06:50

    The ANC must tell these workers that are going to be replaced by machines (or Zimbabweans, which basically are machines)

      buks.lundt - 2012-11-19 07:48

      Take all the free housing/food etc away and pay them a contract rate for what they do. Only allow workers on the farm and no family members. The farmers will save thousands.

  • matshane.seleko - 2012-11-19 06:52

    Destroying private and public property because we are not happy about something has become the norm in SA.It has become a culture.It's saddening because at times it's influenced by people with hidden agendas.How do I protest in demand for a higher salary,but then I bite or chop the hand that shuold provide that salary?Am I implying that I'm incapable of negotiating in a dignified and matured manner?Then there are the accusations and counter accusations,the insults,insults,insults and.....well,more insults by politicians and the genral public alike.All this negativity is not going to solve anything,but it will certainly push our beautiful South Africa further into despair.

  • corlieels.mynhardt - 2012-11-19 07:01

    No workers, no trouble. Machines don't demand, it works whenever you need it to work! No feeding, no strikes, no damaging your bussiness. No people on property stirring trouble and threatening your safety. Let the unions employ the workers. Kiss them jobs and enjoy the better life in this Southern Zim! Our farmers are welcomed in other countries.....why? Because they have KNOWLEDGE!And resposibility, think of the future provision.

  • mandy.robinson.5074 - 2012-11-19 07:06

    Militant protests? Bring the army in and use whatever force deemed necessary.

  • machoene.kaizer - 2012-11-19 07:10

    This thing of a strike is becuming a culture in s.a.now is farmworkers demanding for 150 per day.but go for it cus 70 rand per day is not ayoba

  • Marika Smit - 2012-11-19 07:10

    how sad are the comments still blaming apartheid for all thats wrong in this country!! blame your leaders for depletion of funds take a page from namibia and see how they have overcome and everybody lives in harmony. the unfortunate thing is all say yes for increase but what happens when food sky rockets are you are the first to complain

  • thunder.clap.587 - 2012-11-19 07:12

    Food price goes up,wages do not go up...Actually every working class person should go on strike,cripple the country until its back to its rightful owners,if u against the strike u stil enjoy being exploited.Only a few big pot bellied squibs are gonna enjoy e festive. PS... Typin from my toilet sit. Can't even afford toilette paper coz price went up too.

      jaun.lombard.9 - 2012-11-19 08:28

      But you can afford airtime...such a hard life. For everybody that doesn't understand his comment please see the following: Food prices goes up, but wages stays marginally the same. The whole Working class should strike and cripple the country and get policies implemented to benefit everyone. If you are against strikes, then you are supporting the people who are exploiting you. Only a few big pot bellied squibs are going to enjoy this festive season. PS. I am typing from my toilet, but cant afford toilet paper, because it is more expensive than airtime. I mean, bring the country to is knees will create jobs and empower millions. Viva my ANC viva ANC education. I support COSATU, because it is only fair a nurse gets paid the same as a doctor and a normal worker earn the same salary as his employer, because that will motivate people to open businesses to create wealth for themselves. A business tycoon will invest millions to open a mine because he wants the same salary as the miners. Me ANC educated and me dont understand :(

  • carlin.mitchell.1 - 2012-11-19 07:13

    The police are thugs? Are they suggesting that burning, pillaging and murdering are acceptable behaviour? Give us what we want or............? The police are way too restrained if you ask me. Our government has lost control of law and order and it won't be restored by a soft glove approach. Some kinds of naughtiness in a child deserves a hiding. This is a similar kind of case here, just that the government is now the parent and the strikers are the child.

  • john.knipe.10 - 2012-11-19 07:20

    I spoke to a grape farmer here in Porterville and he tells me that he pays his workers R80 a day and if a worker works the whole 5 days and doesn't take Monday and Friday off they get a bonus of R150 for that week. That equates to R550 a week and R110 a day. Unfortunately most workers only come to work on 3 days. That means they get only R240 a week which they spend mostly on drink, That is one of the reasons of the "poor pay".

      richard.hipkin - 2012-11-19 08:53

      @Kagiso, prove it.

  • sicelo.brukwe.9 - 2012-11-19 07:23

    To my fellow BOER, laat ons gee die mense genoeg geld asseblief tog!

      mike.bester1 - 2012-11-19 07:48

      No problem ,pay them R150.00 a day ,,we don’t mind paying R 150,00 rand for a pocket of potatoes (that what will need to happen )you double the salary ,you will need to double the food prices ?

  • andre.kuhn.583 - 2012-11-19 07:24

    Be honest we have a cold war in South Africa which will turn into a hot war if the ANC keeps on playing foul. Maybe its time to look at an independent Western Cape.

  • izan.botes.7 - 2012-11-19 07:25

    shoot to kill if they can not protest like civilized people!

  • jaco.kriek.5 - 2012-11-19 07:28

    No work no pay should be widened to include that no demands made by violent protest will be met. Violent protest should be met with immediate dismissal, nothing less.

      mawandewonderman.mkuba - 2012-11-19 07:29

      Dream on!!!

  • mawandewonderman.mkuba - 2012-11-19 07:28

    My comment vanished hahahahahaha news24. I still stand by my view

      richard.hipkin - 2012-11-19 08:54

      News24 is trying to save your from yourself.

  • heinrich.barnard.9 - 2012-11-19 07:28

    That's right - starve your own families by losing your jobs. Then go burn down everything else so others are also starved by you stupidity. It worked like that on this continent for decades. Politics ..... ?

  • sanet.n.debeer - 2012-11-19 07:33

    If you behave like animals you must be killed likewise. The only thing thing they know how to do well, is destruction (always other peoples property and belongings) and killing. TREAT THEM THE SAME WAY!

  • Lethabo - 2012-11-19 07:33

    insulting,destroying our public n private property is not the answer how can our country be developed if in each n every strike people destroy our property? Government will have to start again on infrastructure development . ,... This is becoming boring people

  • izan.botes.7 - 2012-11-19 07:35

    or give them the R150 a day but then they must make peace with the necessary retrenchments that will follow and let them pay for electricity, water, school fees, transportation and rent. also cancel all pay and other related government grants the receive on a month to month basis.

      ppisciotta - 2012-11-20 13:40

      I'm not sure that would work. They don't understand mathmatics and certainliy not economics. And if you paid them in cash the full amount of R150 + benefits, they would squander the money and still complain they were being mistreated. "Common Sense" is a misnomer amongst those pressing for higher farm wages.

  • eland.snitbul - 2012-11-19 07:37

    Dis belaglik! Where do they expect the money to come from? Especially after burning down crops and stock. These thugs are setting a norm for wage demand procedure and our spineless ruling party is allowing this. Instead of arresting or fighting crime they are sitting back and waiting for the situation to resolve itself. I honestly hope all the temp workers striking never make it back to one of those farms who provided them with work.

  • kenpeg.dawson - 2012-11-19 07:42

    Militant strikes will lead to militant reactions from the farmers. this will lead to stikers getting a military funeral.

  • kobus.hattingh.5 - 2012-11-19 07:47

    When greed overtakes commonsence it results in unemployment. Fire the lot of them and meganize the industry.

  • TheyTookMyNickLaZynEko - 2012-11-19 07:53

    they mean MORE VIOLENCE.

  • jacqui.millin - 2012-11-19 07:54

    Give them the wage they want but let them pay rent for their house and buy their own food and pay their own electricity and transport. Treat them like any other employee.

  • robert.kempen.7 - 2012-11-19 07:56

    Stop writing crap - the strikes are organized by the ANC - they bus in the thugs and intimidate the workers to strike - as usual, the are responsible for the damage and the loss of life. They are trying to make the Western Cape ungovernable - Erenreich and Fransman are common criminals - the workers wages were negotiated by the government and agreed by the workers! (Mildred Oliphant)

  • eric.martinsich - 2012-11-19 08:02

    One must keep in mind that the seasonal workers do not get paid when there is no work. They have to live on what they earn when it is "seasonal" This is one of the main reasons why people fight for better pay. Survival

  • jaun.lombard.9 - 2012-11-19 08:08

    Seer van Rensburg was so wise...Strikes will increase and will bring the economy to its knees, but salvation will come for those who belief in God and want to live in a Nation that wants to live by the rule set out by God in the Bible. War (WW3 and civil war) will happen but God's forces always wins at the end

      ratsaka.eugene - 2012-11-19 08:11

      Amen to that!

      kenpeg.dawson - 2012-11-19 08:43

      What happens when they are both asking God to be on their side? Who does He support or does He just sit back and watch?

  • phillip.vanniekerk.5 - 2012-11-19 08:08

    Where is Madiba! I demand to see him right now!

      DuToitCoetzee - 2012-11-19 11:07

      No man. You do not want to disturb the old man with our nonsense. He is resting. We must sort out our own nonsense.

  • es.vl.9 - 2012-11-19 08:23

    Fire them and employ jobless whites.

  • eve.wilson.560 - 2012-11-19 08:24

    if it's militant action that they are after, then bring in the military to sort them out!

  • annerie.m.coetzee - 2012-11-19 08:55

    The way they think....." want more money....let us start with the looting, violence and burn the farms....." few years later: " Plies Amarika, Plies Erop, help us, no food no wêk Plenty Children to feed Plies Help Us!!!!" And so are the days of our lives....

      fumanekile.ralane - 2012-11-19 10:00

      That is the only way they can show,cause if they talk nobody listen,they are just promised to be fired,don't get me wrng I don't say its ok to burn tyres and destroy farmers!

  • werner.niksch - 2012-11-19 09:01

    stop calling them farm workers cause their not!!

  • rory.n.price - 2012-11-19 09:05

    We will never have land invasions, we will cripple the farming industry and take them