Fight corruption in SAPS - Phiyega

2012-09-01 16:19

Johannesburg - National police commissioner Riah Phiyega on Saturday appealed to members of Popcru to help fight corruption and criminality within the police service.

"I call upon all of us to declare war on corruption and criminality within the SAPS [SA Police Service]... we need to jointly adopt a zero tolerance towards any member found to have been involved in such," she said.

Phiyega was speaking at the Police and Prisons Civil Rights Union's (Popcru) executive committee meeting in Pretoria.

She said corruption had raised concerns and negative publicity for the police.

"Corruption and criminality within our ranks has raised public concerns. The negative publicity impacts on the image of the country."

Any police officer found guilty of corruption should be dismissed, she said.

  • - 2012-09-01 16:33

    Is that a dismissal after suspension of 2 to 10 years, whilst being paid salary, that full pay holiday? Sometimes it sure looks like crime does pay - or in South Africa's case tax payers!

      koos.meyer.52 - 2012-09-01 17:31

      If the corrupt Cop is a loyal ANC cadre we all know nothing will happen. Even if it arrives at the NPA's offices, all of a sudden the charges will be dropped due to some arbitary reason. I could give thousands of examples if I had the time!

      morama.sebata - 2012-09-01 17:49

      I hear what you saying........"Tax Payers" who the hell are those because everyone does pays tax? - 2012-09-01 18:04

      Does it matter WHO the tax payers is? Or are you going to try and turn this into one of the most boring stories that is long time dead again, namely the race rubbish?

      tw2066 - 2012-09-02 09:00

      Yada yada yada, heard it all before. Phiyegas boss is the king of corruption and so the incestuous corrupt family goes. Typical ANC deployee - says the right thing does something else.

  • daleinn - 2012-09-01 16:44

    Hear hear, is a start , and it begins with the police. The commissioner speaks sense. A few days back minister Gordan spoke on corruption, there is acknowledgement, maybe with more debate and voice of the people, will come action.

  • tin.can.501598 - 2012-09-01 16:49

    National Police Commissioner Riah Phiyega ....Unfortunately your predecessors left quite a big job for you.Well no time to wait to get started !

  • nicolas.gombert.16 - 2012-09-01 16:50

    POPCRU actively protects its members during disciplinary hearings against dismissal. So how can they be "asked" to help fight corruption if they are part of the problem? Corruption is a criminal offence, how come we never hear about corrupt members members being dismissed or even criminally prosecuted? It is the 80% fat, lazy and corrupt that give the other hard-working, honest 20% a bad name.

  • arthur.salvado - 2012-09-01 16:55

    Dismissed or jailed ? Corruption is a criminal offence ? Dismissal with a golden handshake and a pension or suspension with full pay and benefits not acceptable.

      koos.meyer.52 - 2012-09-01 17:33

      Yip, if I steal from my Co, I get fired and go to jail, not this lot that's for sure!!

      lacrimose.wolf - 2012-09-02 01:04

      @koos.meyer.52 - not necessarily. I work in finance and can tell you that many, many naughty people get fired without any ensuing prosecution. To add to the problem they then simply decline to give a recommendation - or condemnation - to future employers. "It is not our policy to give references" is now the standard mantra of most financial (and IT) companies. Same reasons as govt - the fear the fall-out. Only when the bucks get really big and/or there are more than 2 people involved do they disclose. Otherwise they just take the loss and pretend it never happened, preferring to deal with it 'internally'.

  • Sechaba30 - 2012-09-01 17:15

    She still has guts to talk about the Police, she should have resigned or been fired. Zuma is a joke

      koos.meyer.52 - 2012-09-01 17:33

      Zuma is probably steeking her!

  • spookhuis - 2012-09-01 17:29

    Ja it's really gonna

  • BobM6389 - 2012-09-01 17:30

    It is a well known fact that you can not have a corrupt police (law enforcement unit) in a society that is not itself corrupt. There have to be two parties for a corrupt relationship to exist. So while we need to look at the police we also need to look at society itself.

      jacques.stander - 2012-09-01 17:42

      All societies are corrupt . That's why we have/need a police force. Blaming the corruption in the police on the society is silly !!

      John - 2012-09-01 18:08

      Unfortunately the general populace is terrified of the SAPS so find it easier to bribe them than to stand up for their rights of which most are unaware. How many people do you personally know who own a copy of our constitution and have read and understood it? Each time I insist on my constitutiona. rights I get threatened by the police who do not respect or understand OUR constitution.

  • John - 2012-09-01 17:41

    National police commissioner is already corrupted in that she claims that the miners murdered each other. The events that occured outside the view of the mainstream media which are not being aired stinks of a cover up. WE are being bombarded with the pictures of the police running backwards while firing live ammunition. Where is the rest of it? As long as these events are hidden WE need to be suspicious of the police motives and who they are answering to in these matters. The white and black shareholders?

      tommy.hains2 - 2012-09-01 18:36

      You are forgetting that strikes and civil disorder are becoming so violent and destructive to society that a lesson has to be conveyed. I hope this was the message. Stop it and strike protest peacefully its your right. This crowd killed innocent people 10 of them. You reap what u sow. Its time the Government took back the streets and give it back to peacefully citizens.

  • fort.horseman.7 - 2012-09-01 17:44

    An oppressive police force leads to an oppressed State!Good to u Mrs Phiyega.Can u provide a contact no for reports?

  • John - 2012-09-01 17:59

    What's this WAR and FIGHT corruption? National commissioner simply has to do her job and prosecute criminal offenders whether they be SAPS or civilian! Do not hide behind DEPARTMENTAL investigations to hide these criminals from public view because it would tarnish the IMAGE of the SAPS. The image is already rotten! So any prosecution cleans the IMAGE somewhat. I feel that the general populace do not trust the SAPS at the moment. It will take a lot of work to undo the damage already done.

      lacrimose.wolf - 2012-09-01 18:10

      Yep, agree with you on that. We've had 100 years of warring and fighting. The underlying is not being addressed. What is UP with the culture that there are so many thieving, disobedient, disrespectful people in public office?

  • lazarus.masilela - 2012-09-01 18:07

    What about ReaPhinyega?We are farted.\r\nSiyasuziwa.

  • norman.buchalter - 2012-09-01 18:09

    It is interesting to see that when addressing a Popcru meeting our new Police Commissioner can see that the crime and corruption within the police force impacts negatively on the impact of the country. It is indeed commendable that there appears to be a little active leadership and conscience finally stirring within the police force, which of course represents not only the ANC the ruling Party government, but in fact all citizens of the land the last I heard. What is to be queried, is that why once again, only when formal speeches are made addressing important issues that need attention, these appointed heads, or cadres appointed by our elected heads ,in fact speak the words leaders would or should use( I cannot in good faith call them leaders because by definition this means to lead and this they have proven their inability to do ). Yet when it comes to far bigger issues which affect the country's image, they charge in guns blazing death and destruction. Crucially, should Minister Cele not be interrogating the instruction that I believe came from ex PC Cele, who gave the shoot to kill instruction while in office? Is this not the real point of departure from which the police acted, and is there not a recent law enacted empowering them to do exactly that? If there is such a law , the police have all the protection they need from statute so why the charging of the miners unless for political ends ?? Or is this indicative of poor "leadership" leading to total miscommunicatio

  • hlongwanech - 2012-09-01 18:10

    all of them were talking nicely like you during their times but they have done nothing

  • dnxumalo2 - 2012-09-01 18:22

    All in a days work...I hope she will not be accused of having a common purpose.

  • norman.buchalter - 2012-09-01 18:33

    Someone said fire them Riah. Other ministers have also called for corruption etc to be stamped out. Let's hope that the events of Marikana will be the most significant catalyst for change in this country, That business, government and the people catch a wake-up. That the mindless sheep voting for the ANC will finally be educated by events if not by textbooks, see that we have self - serving leaders , and next time vote in leaders from parties who can lead, that the leopard which is the ANC does enough introspection and at least acts reasonably , morally and ethically while it still clings to legitimacy and remains in office.It also is time that commerce and industry can begin to see that fat profits are no longer the only bottom line in business, but that social issues and moral responsibility to their employees have to be factored in "above the line" ,more fairly employed, regardless of their opinion that it is up to government alone to care for the social upliftment both of the employed as well as the unemployed. Perhaps then we'll bridge the divides in this land? Perhaps then we'll be able to forge the unity that transcends race, culture and class,? Perhaps then that in turn will forge strength and prosperity and we'll be able to reverse the culture of entitlement,greed, enrichment, elitism, division at all costs, corruption, moral superiority,and psychopathic behavior which has in 18 years heaped shame, poverty ,crime and destruction on the wonderful dreams of 1994.

  • dan.ledwaba.5 - 2012-09-01 18:36

    Sorry for being negative today...but this is just more of the same...LIP SERVICE. Our gov and its departments only give us beautiful speeches and NO action.

  • fort.horseman.7 - 2012-09-01 18:38

    Human psychology tests has proven that if 1 human is given power over another,that power will inevitably be abused.Mrs Phiyega,it would help to create a hotline for reports to make rooting out corruption and intermidation efficient,if u mean what you u say.

  • fort.horseman.7 - 2012-09-01 18:39

    Human psychology tests has proven that if 1 human is given power over another,that power will inevitably be abused.Mrs Phiyega,it would help to create a hotline for reports to make rooting out corruption and intermidation efficient,if u mean what you u say.

  • fort.horseman.7 - 2012-09-01 18:40

    Human psychology tests has proven that if 1 human is given power over another,that power will inevitably be abused.Mrs Phiyega,it would help to create a hotline for reports to make rooting out corruption and intermidation efficient,if u mean what you u say.

  • Andre Claassen - 2012-09-01 18:52

    Every time I walk down my main street in Newbury UK, I am so thankful I moved overseas with my young family. No taxis, no litter, no hawkers, friendly efficient service, safety, 1st world country. No harassment at every robot from vendors, window washers etc. No bribes, a police service that enforces the law, not a money making side job.

      lacrimose.wolf - 2012-09-01 19:16

      Not many newspapers in your High Street then mate. Policeman in the UK was arrested for bribery Not to mention a few under investigation for brutality and harassment

  • Erna - 2012-09-01 18:57

    All they do is talk! Imagine if this government actually executed all their promises and policies - what a good country this would be to live in. Heck, it would be wonderful if they only executed half of them!

  • Neal Sing - 2012-09-01 21:21

    PIGyega you have already proved to be useless to the public.Just go away

  • alf.pop - 2012-09-02 09:02

    Does that also apply to senior ranks, provincial/national commissioners and ministers?

  • Gerald Jordaan - 2012-09-02 12:02

    Sh*t rolls downhill..start at the top!!And tighten up your screening..there are SAP members who have drivers licenses but cant drive!!!! And after training they are still incapable of handling a firearm yet they are armed !!

  • Andre - 2012-09-02 12:05

    Start dealing with offenders equally without regard to race, rank, gender and tribal affiliation. Also, treat problems like problems and not challenges and leave "ubuntu" out of the equation!

  • jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-09-02 12:34

    That's her job. Where does Zuma find these people?.

  • Hemlock - 2012-09-03 16:14

    I guess this means that 99% of SAPS will be dismissed for corruption then.

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