Firearm centres to close

2011-01-13 22:52

Johannesburg - The 23 firearm registration centres in Gauteng will be closed down because the Firearms Control Act has been amended, provincial police commissioner General Mzwandile Petros's office said on Thursday.

"This office wishes to state that the decision was based on the amendment regulations as proclaimed in the Firearms Control Amendment Act which indicates that all renewals and competency applications will be dealt with at local (police station) level," said Colonel Neville Malila in a statement.

This comes after AfriForum spokesperson Nantes Kelder "condemned" the decision by Petros to close the centres in an article published by Beeld on Thursday.

Kelder said the decision would cause chaos in future and nobody knew what was going to happen to pending applications.

Malila said: "This measure takes the services closer to the community who don't have to travel to a central place but instead apply at their local police station."

He said the police stations had been supplied with application forms and they were also available on the Saps intranet, where it can be printed if not available.

Police Minister Nathi Mthetwa announced the amendment of the Firearms Control Act 28 of 2006 on December 14.

The centres will be shut down on Friday.

  • Shane - 2011-01-14 02:16

    mashini wami !!!!!

  • Kwailoh88 - 2011-01-14 05:46

    mmmm at last- back to a pre 1994 system - maybe they realise that that system worked

      Balstrome - 2011-01-14 06:10

      you think that they will continue this trend?

      CTS - 2011-01-14 06:58

      The difference is that pre-94 we had a working police force...

      Smaal - 2011-01-14 07:52

      If there is one thing I can guarantee you is that the police force will never be like the pre 94 police force... in all respects.

      Johnny - 2011-01-14 08:05

      ....after 1994.... ...useless...!!!

      Tshifhiwa - 2011-01-14 08:30

      The pre 94 police force was working only for one group, it was not transparent, imagine been jailed for looking at a white female. though i agree with many of you that the police force is not up to scratch, the previous one was not better either.

      Cyril - 2011-01-14 08:49

      Yes. The more things change the more they stay the same!!!

      CTS - 2011-01-14 08:58

      @Smaal: neither will our hospitals, Eishkom, our railways, our airways, our navy, our army, our hospitals, our defence force, our schools, our farms, our neighbourhoods, our municipalities... shall I go on?

      CTS - 2011-01-14 09:02

      @Tshifhiwa: at least we had a real 'flying squad', always answering their phones and on site within minutes. Took them 2.5 hours the pre-last time I phoned them for a burglary. The last time I could not get through at all and eventually gave up trying.

      DeonL - 2011-01-14 09:29

      Tshifhiwa there were some non whites and even black policemen pre 1994, they did do some good in theire communities too.

      Krush - 2011-01-14 10:35

      and in pre 1994 we didn't have a corrupt police force who will probably now issues licenses and guns to criminals for a bit of extra cash on the side.

      AFG - 2011-01-14 12:27

      @ Tshifhiwa I was a member of the pre 94 Police Force, Flying squad Pretoria. Pretoria was divided into sectors and you would be posted to a sector, that included the non white areas in that sector as well and we responded to all serious complaints, it did not matter if it was murder, rape, armed robbery, ext in a white or none white area, we were there to catch criminals. We did not care if they were white, pink, or black. I worked with white and black colleges, we all felt the same, race did not matter, but crime did. What is strange is that the response time, (with less people, vehicles and equipment) to a serious incident, from the time the call came in, was +/- 6 minutes. Emergency calls made to 10111 were answered in less than 10 seconds. We still tried to do our job the same way after 94, but things changed, if you arrest a black criminal you were a racist or a traitor, if you were black policeman. New recruits did not have any discipline; they were not there to fight crime they were/are just riding the gravy train; the new SAPS! Most of us left the police, white and black. I have the utmost respect for the police members who stayed and the good ones that came after 94.They are still trying to do a good job, but they are fighting an uphill battle against politics and incompetent commanders/management with no backbone.

      misterjakes - 2011-01-16 11:52

      Tshifhiwa and the current one is transparent? haha! just look at the odendaal/winnie case. he's referring to the systems, not politics, which is even more skewed now than pre '94.

      sparking - 2011-01-16 20:14

      Schucks, I hope not because some of us were locked up many times for crossing on the wrong(colour) side of the bridge. I would not wish that kind of humiliation on any one(or maybe we should?)Pre 1994 worked only for a very small group!

      BigPig69 - 2011-01-17 06:55

      You funny too see all these nice comments about the police..... Yet some of you d-heads seem to forget there is still a few of the chaps and ladies that do deliver and goes way beyond. They go after the criminals and they do the job propperly. So how come we only hear how crap the police is?? You who like to insult then, lets see if you have the B's to walk out there and stand with those that makes a difference. Easy to be a sideline expert if you do not know jack!!! You can kiss my rosey red rectum now. Sick of you lot

      Ian - 2011-01-17 07:33

      @ BigPig69: I agree with you. Although the SAPS is now largely distrusted (due to their own doing), there are still many cops out there who are trying hard to make a difference. Lets just hope they're not fighting a losing battle.

  • bosegoos - 2011-01-14 07:14

    The period of nine months which the Minister and his General promised, will be sufficient to clear up the existing mess at the Central Firearms Register is not feasible. Why are they now making a u-turn by decentralising the registration centres? With people such as Mario and Gatto (from Pinnochio) at the helm one can be assured of a bugger-up. As long as the ANC put politicians in stead of professional policemen to manage the SAP you will have a recipe for disaster. Remove the clowns Mthethwa and Cele before the harm done is irrepairable.

  • DaveD - 2011-01-14 07:45

    Another attempt to disarm the law-abiding population through beauracracy

      CTS - 2011-01-14 07:54

      Ironically NOT. The disarmament will only start once they know where all the weapons are. In this case it will take them longer to find out...

  • branden.hart - 2011-01-14 08:05

    If you can'r pass a law banning firearms, then make it Bureucratically impossible to process applications. The ANC is king at that type of tactic.

      Janaman - 2011-01-14 10:38

      Most crime is committed with unlicensed guns, so all that will do is make life harder for people like me who target shoot, hunt and want a real defence mechanism!

  • threezero - 2011-01-14 08:21

    These bloody clowns running the country haven't a clue what they are doing.

      ronbonjon - 2011-01-14 08:37

      Oh boy you are so right

      Max - 2011-01-14 09:07

      They know, u a the one who don't know what you want except moaning.

      misterjakes - 2011-01-16 11:55

      max, we want safety, security (the primary function of a state) and to be allowed to live freely like the ANC promised us.

  • Realist - 2011-01-14 08:34

    In the pre 94 all government depts functioned well. Compare the health, schools, roads, eiskom, municiplaties, defence, police in 1994 to 2011! It was only the APARTHIED that was wrong and needed to be killed & buried. Wise people have always known "IF IT WORKS DON"T MESS WITH IT". I quote "WISE PEOPLE".

      aa gone - 2011-01-15 06:08

      perhaps efficient for the 10% white minority.people of colour did not enjoy the same standards of healthcare, roads education etc. as the whites did pre to say how great things were before you are only talking for the minority. yes and the roads in white suburbs were tarred long before any houses were built while people living for years in other suburbs had to drive on gravel.non-whites patients in hospitals had to often sleep on floors ,etc. yes thing are bad now , but they were only good for the minority before.

      misterjakes - 2011-01-16 11:56

      aa gone, well change is not going to happen in 10 or 20 years like the ANC is trying. Fools.

      misterjakes - 2011-01-16 11:56

      Actually, let's get our own country...

  • Realist - 2011-01-14 08:35

    In the pre 94 all government depts functioned well. Compare the health, schools, roads, eiskom, municiplaties, defence, police in 1994 to 2011! It was only the APARTHIED that was wrong and needed to be killed & buried. Wise people have always known "IF IT WORKS DON"T MESS WITH IT". I quote "WISE PEOPLE".

      k1dbl4ck - 2011-01-15 02:23

      Totally agreed. Problem is, along with hating white people, the strugglists apparently also have to hate efficiency by default.

  • Ingie - 2011-01-14 09:20

    Well go to a police station they cant even file your report let alone write it. I actually wrote my own once as he did not know what he was doing. Now to fill this in EISH..too hard to handle. I had to hand in my gun +- 10 years ago as this was the deadline and then after i ahnded it in it was then re extended for many years after that. I was not paid a cent and wonder if it was actually burnt like they said they would do..IDIOTS - 2011-01-14 23:29

      Well Ingie, no offens intended (and I agree with most of your post) but you were a complete IDIOT to hand in your firearm. To comply with this current Firearms Confiscation Acts (FCA) in any manner is to assist them in stripping away your right to own property (firearms) It is immoral, unconstitutional and was suicidedly STUPID of you to comply by handing in your weapon(s) Now what?

  • DeonL - 2011-01-14 09:26

    More people will now be out of a job, thanks to the Minister. Did he not know it is the "year of employment!"

  • 123online123 - 2011-01-14 09:58

    Forms available on the SAPS intranet? Are you kidding me? The dumb@ss that can barely take a statement is now expected to log onto the intranet and print you forms? HA HA HA HA HA! Clearly they have not been dealing with Milnerton SAPS. Pathetic bunch the lot of them.

  • Barry M - 2011-01-14 10:27

    The police, like the defence force, is operating at 3% of its pre-1994 capability. Fact! - 2011-01-14 11:51

      That high? would have though lower. problem is to many SAP and Army thiefs getting paid to sit on there fat asses saying our hand are tied we cant do our job properly. old days we worked even when there was no work to just keep busy.

  • word-of-mout - 2011-01-14 11:01

    Atleast they wont be closing down riflerange in joburg.

  • Red Baron - 2011-01-14 12:53

    One of the first to apply for my licence and still did not receive it.

      AraBilly - 2011-01-16 15:34

      Yep, join the club - been 5 or 6 years now - got some of it and others not, despite it being approved.

  • rupert.vanzyl - 2011-01-14 15:25

    hahaha, they broke our police force

  • k1dbl4ck - 2011-01-15 02:20

    nice! now we all need are some wal-mart's for ammo.

  • richard - 2011-01-16 10:29

    more work for the police, a disaster in the making.

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