Gauteng a gangster's paradise - Petros

2012-08-01 17:44

Johannesburg - Gauteng police commissioner Mzwandile Petros on Wednesday admitted the province was labelled as a "gangster's paradise".

"I was fascinated by the beauty of the walls of Gauteng because the walls are 5m high instead of 2m high," he said during an interview on Talk Radio on 702.

"Something is not right. The people are living in fear."

He said the term "gangster's paradise" was given by the people of Gauteng themselves and this fear was justified.

Corrupt cops

He recalled in the interview when he moved to Gauteng from the Western Cape in 2010 to take up the post as provincial commissioner.

The interview was on corruption and the role of civil society.

Petros said it became a problem when those who were charged with upholding the law were themselves corrupt.

"We are so happy we are doing it [arresting corrupt officers] ourselves. [Police] want to be seen dealing with these things themselves."

He said in this year alone 120 police officers in Gauteng had been dismissed, and 171 last year.

Positive about lower Gauteng crime stats

When asked by 702 station manager Yusuf Abramjee if the war on corruption and crime was being won, Petros said arrests were made and battles were being won, but he could not lie and say the war was won.

"We will never define before-hand what it will look like when it's fixed."

He was positive that when the crime statistic figures were released in September, it would reveal that Gauteng's figures had dropped.

However, he added: "It is not about the numbers. How do the people feel on the ground?"

Crime in Gauteng made up a large portion of the national crime statistic.

"If there is hope in Gauteng, there is hope in the country."

  • Jacques - 2012-08-01 17:50

    Just shows you how out of touch with reality these people are. People have been calling it that for as long as I can remember- and it's not like those walls were built yesterday. Now all of a sudden: hmmmm I guess the people ARE living in fear... *facepalm.

      Jacques - 2012-08-01 18:46

      Hey Moron, unless he's been living in the arctic his whole life he would have known about it himself before taking the job, thus negating the need for him to realise what a gangsters paradise it is. D'oh!

      sharon.a.marks.9 - 2012-08-01 19:15

      i have seen some changes and increased police activity since he arrived in gautengaling,lets give him a chance with the corruption story,it runs so deep it will take time to try and rid the sapsof these rotten eggs

      sharon.erwin.96 - 2012-08-01 19:18

      I thought that was why there is a GP on the number plates!

      fred.warren.986 - 2012-08-01 19:24

      Black on white crime spiked after Apartheid was abolished. The reason is simple: the great architect of apartheid, Hendrik Vervoed (may his soul rest in peace) understood that there were huge numbers of black criminals in the townships (as I'm sure most black readers would agree). To keep whites safe it was necessary to restrict the movement of black people. After 1994, these restrictions were lifted and the result was open season on white people. Many people think the prime objective of Apartheid was to enslave black people. This is not true - it was there to protect white people from being raped and murdered.

      Jacques - 2012-08-01 19:46

      Warren, I'm no historian, but your comment has that eerie supremist whiff to it. Surely the pass laws were implemented to restrict black access to white areas so they can't 'spoil it' for the whites? Apartheid can't be justified in any way, especially not to \protect us whites from the vast, murderous black horde'.

      sean.bagley.50 - 2012-08-01 20:15

      @fred.warren.986 Wow anything by people like yourself to paint Apartheid as God's gift to South Africa hey?At least its there now for all to see that's looking at this Website that we still have white South Africans that's still talking up the pre-1994 era of yester year.At least you didn't hide what you truly believe in. South Afrca is in a crime ridden mess currently because of the failures of an imcompetent ANC Government.That has to change.You can't be justifying anything from the Apartheid days or speak well of Dr HF Vervoerd and his racist hatred for all non-whites for the evil that is currently happening in South Africa regarding the crime problem.Get over yourself boet please -1948 to 1994 Apartheid and anything associated with that is dead and buried,long gone. The new "Apartheid" by the ANC Elite with its BEE,AA,Quota system and everything that goes with it,is what we South Africans are now dealing with and which is being fought and there are political ways and means of doing so through votes and popular public opinion.

      jacques.joubert.swart - 2012-08-01 20:22

      We seem to at least agree on the Boeremag issue, Themba.

      themba.thwala.98 - 2012-08-01 20:52

      Okay, but get their name right dude, will you? They are Die Boeremamparas. They have never and had no `mag`, or whatever `mag` they had was all spent after they had murdered one helpless black woman and were arrested soon thereafter

      angela.foley.5682 - 2012-08-02 08:06

      People started calling it Gangsters Paradise years ago when the GP number plates were launched..... In fact Leon Schuster has even joked about it in one of his movies.....

  • Hermann - 2012-08-01 17:59

    At least he is admitting crime is a problem including inside the SAPS and that is a step forward.

      themba.thwala.98 - 2012-08-01 18:39

      Yeah, unlike the ceremonial President who prefers to pass the buck to dead monsters

      themba.thwala.98 - 2012-08-01 22:28

      Tienietjie, as if I care what you think of me. Here is my middle finger

      themba.thwala.98 - 2012-08-02 05:39

      Tienie, if you want a civil debate, you must be able to substantiate your point as to why I'm inconsistent, and allow me to respond. But if you prefer mudslinging and name calling, you'll soon realise that I'm capable of giving back as good as I get

  • Matthew Patrick - 2012-08-01 18:05

    Well at least there's some realism in the Gauteng SAPS

  • michael.deyzel.1 - 2012-08-01 18:10

    At least they start with the correct number plate letters GP.

  • DamnTheMan - 2012-08-01 18:15

    Yes but what can a corrupt government do about it ? Besides get more corrupt that is ... Damn the man.

  • lownabester - 2012-08-01 18:20

    No kidding???

  • ec.van.niekerk - 2012-08-01 18:23

    nuwe besem wat skoon vee .... ja wat gee hom 'n paar maande en ons is trug by blok 1!!!!!

  • JevonMarshallJohnson - 2012-08-01 18:23

    bla bla bla

  • gwvickers - 2012-08-01 18:28

    As if we didn't know that, why do you think we have GP on our number plates

  • sean.bagley.50 - 2012-08-01 18:30

    Especially Bosmont,New Clare,Klipspruit,Brixton,Ondekkers Road,Westbury,etc.Try taking a train late at night from any of these "coloured" areas train stations and you ****ed.Are they still throwing people of moving trains?Day light murder and robbery bigtime right there on the train station platforms in the '90s!It was quie common in the 1990's to do that.West Gate Shopping Centre and Horizon View Cinema complex was a hotbed for thieves to rob you as you came out and walked to your car even in broad daylight.

  • Sharmay - 2012-08-01 18:30

    Grammar Nazi to the rescue - it's 'Gauteng a gangsters' paradise - Petros' hahaha smooth News24, smooth..

  • Kagiso Spat Truthtell - 2012-08-01 18:35

    Its these white people from Cape town and Nigerians who come to Joburg bringing nothing but crime skills. Nigerians are highly skilled in crime and they work with these white businessmen to produce drugs and run brothels.

      marumobongani - 2012-08-01 18:58

      how blind are they pointing fingers @ people who claiming whats their's true thiefs are @ top of the food chain

      CORNHOLIO - 2012-08-01 19:03

      this doesnt even annoy its just funny

      gwvickers - 2012-08-01 20:50

      Go and check the stats in jail you moron, what is the most population in there, you obvious don't know what you talking about

  • samgaf - 2012-08-01 18:36

    Guess how long before he gets arrested for corruption?cannot really arrest someone for stupidity??? the high walls are to keep the pigs out!!!

  • oliver.lankes.3 - 2012-08-01 18:53

    Boy, am I glad I live in Cape Town

      themba.thwala.98 - 2012-08-01 19:07

      So you have quelled your gangsterism, prostitution and drug abuse issues in Kaap? Isn't Kaap part of SA by the way?

      hallo.daar.56 - 2012-08-01 19:28

      Murder capital of SA, fool

      tw2066 - 2012-08-02 06:09

      You are ideed lucky. Kwa Zooolooo Natal not so nice. The guy round back where I stay mananaged to stick a bullet thru a AA position theifs head. Stopped him DEAD in his tracks! And in our neck of the woods, Kwa Zooooloooo area prostitution is replaced by rape - like the Zuma thing -, but these dudes rape anything that moves.

  • marumobongani - 2012-08-01 18:53

    coming from western cape one would say you such a good liar

      herman.burger.5 - 2012-08-01 19:24

      Reading Mr. Kagiso's tirade you would think that everyone's a criminal except the local Blacks who are lily white (so to speak). The criminals are white, coloured or Nigerian. Really?

  • victor.shoene - 2012-08-01 19:12

    some of ur snr members insrtuct poor const nd sgt not to arrest their nigerians friends so there is no way u wil win in fighting this crime

  • joseph.tettey.9 - 2012-08-01 19:26

    After the 'war' has been fought and won we shall be free and happy in the Gangster Paradise.I remember years ago New York was the criminal haven and the system defeated the Gangs and today you can walk on 42nd street without fear.We shall one day become London that was very dangerous with the aged being attacked on Oxford Street and Margaret Thatcher destroyed the criminals with the Suspect Law.We shall have a leadership one day that will display vision to restore our dignity and Peace in our GP.We shall overcome one day.

  • ronald.jeffs - 2012-08-01 20:16

    What can I say? No much... oh wait, yet another ANC idiot!

      tw2066 - 2012-08-02 06:02

      I'm with you on that buddy.

  • Vince.York - 2012-08-01 21:02

    South Africa, let alone Gauteng arrested 'John Galt' and threw the key away!

  • tw2066 - 2012-08-02 06:00

    Keystone cops.

  • julie.j.vanrensburg - 2012-08-02 06:30

    This same Petros who - back in January/February 2011 insisted that two police officers, Odendaal and Twala, apologise to 'her royal majesty,' Winnie Mandela, for daring to pull the car she was travelling in, off for speeding and reckless driving. Learn how this same Petros 'rewarded' these two police officers for just doing their duty as is expected from dedicated police officers...

  • sisie.indola - 2012-08-02 08:09

    About time you woke up. What do you think people were talking about for the 19 years - sugar plum fairies!I actually thought that that was why Gauteng got the GP number plates - am sure all the gangsters thought the same, here was a province that sanctioned them. Got to admire the intellect.

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