Gauteng liquor licences to be reviewed

2011-05-31 12:28

Johannesburg - All liquor licences and permits in Gauteng will be reviewed, economic development MEC Qedani Mahlangu said on Tuesday.

"I believe South Africans deserve better legislation," she told a media briefing on the draft liquor policy in Johannesburg.

"[It will] improve compliance through enhanced enforcement of the liquor legislative and regulatory." There are 30 000 liquor licences in Gauteng.

Mahlangu said her department would also look at discouraging the trading of alcohol on Sundays and religious holidays.

This would address the problem of unlimited access to and consumption of liquor.

"I'm talking about places like Pick n Pay and Spar or any takeaway place," she said.

People would still be able to buy alcohol in restaurants, shebeens and taverns.

  • Gary - 2011-05-31 12:37

    Shebeens are okay? Man I so see where this is going. How about making EVERYONE apply for a licence for starters.........

      Audacious - 2011-05-31 15:18

      New brains are cheap today, cheaper than yesterday. Sing along. New brains - hardly used. Thease are ministers?

  • TK - 2011-05-31 12:42

    This will be a another season of bribes as illigal shebeen & tavern owners also get licences.

  • MOTEK-XX - 2011-05-31 12:59

    So its okay to buy alcohol at restaurants, but not at a shop so that it can be consumed in ones home? How bloody stupid. Why single out religious holidays, what about freedom of religion. Surely if I have no religion I should be allowed to purchase booze whenever! FFS

  • george - 2011-05-31 13:00

    This is hypocrisy at its best. "I'm talking about places like Pick n Pay and Spar or any takeaway place," The minister said. People would still be able to buy alcohol in restaurants, shebeens and taverns. As an adult who wants to buy his own liquour on Sunday and drink it at my place in my lounge what are options. Government cannot tell me when i am allowed to buy liquor for private consumption in my own private residence. Why must i go and drink in a restaurant on Sunday? Why restrict liquour for me on Sunday when i dont even go to church. This is absurd. At the same time, strip show clubs do open on sundays and liquor flows from such premises yet i cannot buy liquor from a bottle store because governmemt says that it is a religious holiday. I am not religuos. Anyway, religous people are not interested in liquour on Sundays, why why restrict us? This governmenmt has nothing to do, except try to control law abiding citizens while genuine criminals wreck havoc.

  • NATO OFFICE - 2011-05-31 13:05

    No no..given 7 million adults in Guateng it means that we have 233 people per tavern or bar and thats a lot so we need more licences please...

  • Razor - 2011-05-31 13:08

    quick question, why overlook restaurants and pick on shabeens and taverns?

      50something - 2011-05-31 14:28

      What do you mean "pick on" shebeens and taverns, they will be allowed to sell liquor, but you can't buy a bottle of wine from P'nP ...

  • callan - 2011-05-31 13:09

    OK????!!! so the sale of alcohol from shebeens & taverns, over which the authorities, including SARS & SAPS, have little or no control will be allowed, but sales from controled establishments like Spar & Pick & Pay would be "discouraged"!!!! Only in Africa! And with regards to Religeous holidays...does the State intend only enforcing this over "Christian" holidays? Surely all religeons are equal in SA? Does this mean we wont be able to buy beers on Jewish, Muslim, Hindu, Greek Orthodox,Mormon, 7th Day Adventist holy days ect,ect...??? Must have taken a rocket scientist to come up with this one!!!

      NATO OFFICE - 2011-05-31 13:20

      let them drink in their shabeens and forget their misery and poverty...stop them and they will think of protests.

      Matt - 2011-05-31 14:32

      About 70% of the population call themselves Christians, 15% Catholic, so going by 85% of the population having "holy days" on a Sunday and particular other days, well this is meant to be a democracy, majority dictates... (but honestly I don't care when they sell or don't sell liquor, it's bad news on any day!)

  • claudevn - 2011-05-31 13:19

    lol alrighty then, Pick & Pay and Spar will be stopped from selling on Sundays and "religious holidays", but dont worry... you can still get at a Shebeen lol Logic = much? lol Dont go forgetting that some ppl DRINK RELIGIOUSLY too lol hahahaha

      Darwinian - 2011-05-31 13:42

      and that ladies and the ugly truth!

  • - 2011-05-31 13:25

    Sundays and religious days? In who's eyes?

      Matt - 2011-05-31 14:30

      About 85% of the population but hey who are we to judge :-)

  • magszinovich - 2011-05-31 13:30

    Before you jump your guns, re-read the article! It talks about addressing the purchasing of alcohol on SUNDAYS, at places like PnP etc... CALM THE F DOWN you bunch of alcoholics

      Matt - 2011-05-31 14:29

      Yeah you whinos, sober up and chill :-)

      corro51 - 2011-05-31 15:51

      Now I've got to get wasted in a restaurant. Damn.

  • MacDaKnife - 2011-05-31 13:33

    What no liquor licence for Sundays. Oh I see BEE will encourage shabeen operators to open 24/7. I am sure a few bribes will exchange hands.

  • GTFO - 2011-05-31 13:53

    now i know who all the alcis!

  • Andrew - 2011-05-31 14:01

    At this time of year government should be handing out Brandy and Coke to all free of charge 7 days a week. It will warm you up and cut electrical consumption!!

  • My Comment - 2011-05-31 14:20

    Democracy is about people choosing how they want to be governed, and not the authorities deciding what is good/bad for them. Put every new law/legislation to the vote i.e. liquor control, the death penalty, 1% salary compulsory for TV licenses, social grants, the banning of private medical aid, not smoking in your own home, tollfees inside cities, RAF charges, Sin taxes, VAT, number of government departments, RDP houses, etc. Just some of the many laws that get shoved down our throats, the list is too long!

      Matt - 2011-05-31 14:28

      But to be honest though, how many of the laws are enforced and how many do we actually obey? TIA after all ;-)

  • 50something - 2011-05-31 14:25

    It's not okay to buy a bottle of wine at Pick 'n Pay, but it's okay to buy liquor at a shebeen and taverns, which are mostly located inside residential areas. They have missed the point ... again. Get ALL liquor outlets out of residential areas, including shebeens. You are NOT going to solve the problem this way. WTF

  • Matt - 2011-05-31 14:27

    The law would be rather stupid - dronkgatte could just buy extra on Saturdays - but even when I was an atheist, I was impressed with the law (when it was still law not to sell on Sundays). Still, the laws don't affect me anyway - I don't touch alcohol - you do NOT need booze to have fun and in addition it's even better to be in control, rather than pished out of your bracket...

      Matt - 2011-05-31 14:28

      To correct - I was an atheist but not anymore :-D but I'm sure half the News24 commentators knew that already ;-)

      Mikemcc - 2011-06-01 18:12

      @Matt, why do you think for a moment that half of News24 commentators would care about your beliefs?

  • spetsnazss - 2011-05-31 15:40

    HA HA HA HA Shabeens ok !!!! RASCIST !!! RASCIST !!! RASCIST !!!

  • glowworm87 - 2011-05-31 15:58

    Shebeens and taverns I would imagine pose a bigger threat than my pick n pay down the road!

  • Monica - 2011-05-31 23:58

    Where were the person that was liable for these laws at the time that it was passed? If I remember correctly; un-prepared!

  • Thandi - 2011-06-01 07:57

    After hearing the ministers comments on TV this morning re taking the business away from the likes of Pick n Pay so small 'black' busineses can benefit only leads me to the conclusion that any review is based solely on racist grounds, much like BEE and AA. Viva ANCorruption.

  • VELOCITY - 2011-06-01 11:19

    Only half the story AGAIN News24? She specifically said on the TV interview yesterday that more licenses must be awarded to "black people". Why don't you report that here? The blatant racism of the ANC is exposed to South Africans and the world and News24 misses that bus completely.

  • Bubbles007 - 2011-06-01 12:24

    Boooooooring! This was tried and it never worked. Where there's a will, there's a way. I will drink whenever I feel like it since I'm supporting my own habit and I will find a way to get to Tops!

  • Bongani Tony Ntshangase - 2011-06-01 12:47

    Most restaurants won't sell you alcohol having not bought any meal, so now we are forced to go to restaurants and buy a meal just for a beer. I'm not a sheeben/tarven kind of a person so I'm forced to go to a restaurant? This is bull... Our ministers are bored hence they come up with these stupid regulations.

  • Brads - 2011-06-01 13:03

    So they would rather endanger ppl's lives on the road by me drinking and driving home from a restaurant than me drive sober to Tops and back home and drink in my own space

      Bongani Tony Ntshangase - 2011-06-01 13:19

      Well said Brad and maybe the whole idea behind this is to make more revenue for the police 'cause we'll arrested for drinking and driving then pay the fine. One thing they know, we S.Africans we drink a lot and so they are sure they will arrest us us. So now it's the toll gates, drinking and driving fines, what's next...

      sefeddt - 2011-06-01 13:35

      My thoughts exactly

      Buffoon - 2011-06-01 13:53

      You shouldn't drink and drive. Full stop

      Bongani Tony Ntshangase - 2011-06-01 14:35

      Buffoon, it's not a matter of drinking and driving, we are anti-sheebens/tarvens, guys kill each other in those places, if for sunday relaxation I need a beer what must I do? The only thing will be to drive to the restaurants and what are you gonna call that? "Forced drinking and driving", period, because I couldn't buy my beer at Tops, the only thing was for me to drive to the restaurants.

  • SiphoMboyisa - 2011-06-01 20:58

    Let them all get wasted and toast what little brain cells they have, then let them kill each other on the roads when they drive home wasted. Those who observe conservative practices and stay at home sober on weekends won't miss them, that's for sure.

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