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God help us if Malema is president: Mthembu

2012-09-27 10:23

Johannesburg - ANC spokesperson Jackson Mthembu said during a television interview that it would be a dark day for the country if the expelled ANC Youth League president Julius Malema ever came to power, Beeld newspaper reported on Thursday.

"Can you imagine Julius Malema becoming president of the country? Oh, dear God, may that day never dawn in our lifetime, or that of our children," Mthembu said in an interview with television channel eNCA on Wednesday.

According to the report he also said Malema should never have been an ANC member because he was a bad person.

Malema should stop lobbying opinion on whether president Jacob Zuma should be nominated as ANC leader, Mthembu said.

"He's not even a member of the ANC. He can't nominate anybody. People join the ANC voluntarily, but then they're required to maintain certain values, and Julius couldn't do it."

Mthembu also warned any ANC leaders who might be contemplating support of Malema, who faces charges of money laundering.

"He's too factious... he thinks he's everything. He might support a leader now, but he'll do a complete about-face within three years," he said.

Comments
  • thebe.tau - 2012-09-27 10:27

    If he ever becomes president it will be because of the rubbish leadership that we have right now, which is your fault mr mthembu, any chimp can climb down the tree onto the podium becausae there is no leadership.

      boom.afridi.56 - 2012-09-27 10:41

      @sebenza as you are julius supporter, please tell how malema becoming president will help our nation prosper and become recognised and respected on an international level? I'm trying to understand your support for him and the reasoning behind it.

      Willie - 2012-09-27 10:41

      God is not helping us with Zuma ,Jackson what's your take on that.

      wo0two0t - 2012-09-27 10:46

      If he does - watch how fast capital disappears in this country it will make Zims hyperinflation a few years back look like child’s play. And who will suffer the poor and the people who cannot get out because who would want to invest in a place that thinks they can just take anything away at whim just because of someone skin colour. Enjoy what you’re dreaming for and good luck - SA is lost already so what’s the use.

      abram.spamers - 2012-09-27 10:51

      @sebenza - Please enlighten me as to how Julius will help anybody with policies that are virtually guaranteed to bankrupt our country in a matter of months if they were ever to be employed?

      heini.botes - 2012-09-27 10:52

      I think Malema has success with the masses because of the Marxist dialogue he initiates. Granted, he has virtually no idea what he's talking about nor the consequences thereof, but the rhetoric evokes a strong sense of unity and the promise that change is possible once the 'white capitalists' are ejected from their positions of economic power. Telling that to the poorest, most illiterate and unedu cated individuals of South Africa, he allows them to think that via revolution, economic freedom can be reached. It's a believable and sweet idea, that only two kinds of people can buy into: 1. The uneducated, illiterate, poor, naive, conspiratorial, idealistic and lazy. 2. The political idiot/politically retarded. Thankfully most, if not all of the ANC leaders comprise the latter- and I don't mean it sarcastically. If this government was actually able to act and enforce Marxist policies it would be the tragic end of South Africa. P.S: Don't make this a race issue, cause that would just piss me off

      seanread.crisp - 2012-09-27 10:55

      I've always said that if Malema ever becomes president he will destroy this country and I'll have no choice but to leave it. I hope that day never comes.

      aniken.vader.31 - 2012-09-27 10:57

      what is absolutely funny is how malema and the anc were both happy with each other just not long ago! They would sustain one another. Zuma on the podiums while malema would utter hate speech's and malema loving zuma to a degree where he'd kill for him. malema upheld zuma, and zuma upheld malema - they are both at fault with one another...

      fussed.anderson - 2012-09-27 10:58

      Its been dark for the last 18 years Now that you have taken the electrics away. No one will see the light

      zimbobwe.mugabe - 2012-09-27 11:00

      @msendi and those majority members are rubbish, idiots, scumbags like their leaders. Same to the majority of the imbecile, illiterate, moronic voters who vote for the scumbags called anc.

      msendi - 2012-09-27 11:09

      @zimbobwe.mugabe… But you are not different from them… That is a sad reality…

      matshobana.siziba - 2012-09-27 11:21

      Good and bad News: Good news- South Africa is still ranked No. 1 in economic development in Africa. Bad News - in terms of economic growth SA has turned out to be very slow in the past years. Countries like Nigeria are quickly moving up the ladder. Food for thought. Its because of pple like malema among others Follow the discussion on http://www.facebook.com/MzansiPoliticsand like the page

      morris.khunou - 2012-09-27 11:30

      If electing Motlanthe will bring back Malema! I am afraid I rather stay with zuma

      james.hurley.5249 - 2012-09-27 11:47

      @Sebenza - 'non-white' was an offensive term during apartheid, used to lump people together with that negating 'non-' - it's equally offensive as 'non-black' - black people might be in the majority, but that does not make anyone 'non-black' - your blackness does not define me. If it defines you, well kudos to you.

      jason.marriott.75 - 2012-09-27 11:51

      That is a valid point Thebe. but it wouldn't be good for anyone if he did become president. you think the poor will be magically uplifted? Education and health systems will be improved? I don't think Malema's skills lie in organisation rather in promising and public speaking.

      maltacular.zinj - 2012-09-27 12:03

      Malema being president is actually inevitable. It may not be now but it will happen and i cant wait for that day. #viva juju.

      boom.afridi.56 - 2012-09-27 12:10

      @mascular.. yes and then how will your life be better? what is he going to do for you?

      boom.afridi.56 - 2012-09-27 13:18

      im still waiting. not one of you can even give me a logical or rational answer? come on julius will be so disappointed that you don't even have a clue why you support him. it's like the blind leading the blind.

      edward.patterson.923 - 2012-09-27 14:09

      @msendi;The current leadership of the ANC was elected by the majority members in Polokwane" Therein lies the problem. This isn't a true democracy. There needs to be a viable 2nd party that gives the voters a choice. The DA is always criticized by the ANC that it is too white and will bring back apartheid. People won't vote for a party like that, but the ANC needs a strong DA. Check history both in and out of Africa "one party democracies" don't last, there usually is a revolution or a coup because one party democracies don't work.

      jason.sole.92 - 2012-09-27 14:55

      Msendi - When the prince of fools is elected who do you blame, the prince or the fools that elect him?

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-09-27 16:59

      Mthembu says the right thing and you still vilify him. That's stupid, even if there is a leadership void. There's a leadership void across the world.

      pj.egolie - 2012-09-27 17:14

      God left SA so who will switch the light off?

      keith.f.murphy - 2012-09-27 18:56

      Mthembu is one of the great warrior idiots in th anc the poepsak.Now malema is bad but he was also faning Malemas poepsak the idiot.Mthembu thinks we are all brainless idiots like him. He is also riding on the gravy train .I know the system becos the system has another system inside the system and him and zuma them all are part of that corrupt system.

      john.smit.121772 - 2012-09-27 19:24

      Great comment. What makes the current leadership better than Malema, they are as corrupt.

      nina.ignjatov - 2012-09-27 21:20

      I love South Africa! My heart breaks and bleeds when I say these words, if Julius becomes president I am leaving !! Dear God please do not allow this !!!

      nemimabotja - 2012-09-27 22:22

      People keep bringing up the Zim thing with Malema. That would never happen here, South Africa as a different Ball game altogether.

      aristar.aristary - 2012-09-28 08:39

      The biggest disadvantage of democracy is that it allows two idiots to outvote a genius. Or lets two ignorant fools to outvote a thinking, logical person. Or lets two radicals outvote a moderate. Or two bullies to outvote a nerd.

      john32 - 2012-09-28 19:27

      Let them vote Malema as president. The masses will only then see that he was a big liar...only a couple of his supporters will be enriched...malema will probably own all the mines personally, they will all fall apart, there will be a revolution and Malema will eventually be hanged in public. This is the only way to enlighten the masses!

  • alfred.neumann.142 - 2012-09-27 10:33

    Crikey! Did Jackson Mtembhu stay sober for long enough for something rational to fall out that mouth of his!?

      patrickmpanyana.mogwaneng - 2012-09-27 12:45

      DJ Zuma is the president and God is not helping us.Mthembu must stop acting like God .There are worse people in the ANC than Malema and he is one of them.

      aristar.aristary - 2012-09-28 08:39

      The biggest disadvantage of democracy is that it allows two idiots to outvote a genius. Or lets two ignorant fools to outvote a thinking, logical person. Or lets two radicals outvote a moderate. Or two bullies to outvote a nerd.

  • tommo.too - 2012-09-27 10:33

    Malema is completely controlled by hatred. His words. His behaviour. His being. He has no idea of his own place in the South African family, our nattion. Ora pro nobis. Pray for us if he gets anywhere near organized politics...

  • gavin.lott.9 - 2012-09-27 10:34

    A sick part of me almost want's him to become president just so I can tell all his supporters 'I told you so"...when the country rots!

      Jellyarse - 2012-09-27 10:38

      That would be an impossibility unless you place all reasonable people on the list of criminally insane. At that stage, all of SA would be a burning, rotting ruin, infrastructure would have totally collapsed and there would be no way of communicating your message to these morons other than through the barrel of a full automatic rifle!

      gavin.lott.9 - 2012-09-27 10:53

      I'm in counselling!

      aniken.vader.31 - 2012-09-27 10:55

      the sad part? in zim that happened with bob. yet they never complained of how bad things have turned out! it's as if they don;t worry as long as someone who can keep them to a degraded status for a better word.

  • rbphiri - 2012-09-27 10:35

    I agree to a certain extent, but more along these lines: God help us all if people vote for this party again!

      msendi - 2012-09-27 10:46

      What party?

      rbphiri - 2012-09-27 11:20

      Just click your heels three times and you will get the answer, alternatively rub your wood work lamp and a gini will magically appear and grant you 3 wishes...use those wishes wisely. Perhaps wish yourself a life, a brain and a pass in wood work :-) <---- look at my caring face...I do not discriminate on the mentally challenged.

      steve.blignaut - 2012-09-27 14:43

      @RPhiri 8-) <-- check that one out.. be afraid! whahahahaha

      aristar.aristary - 2012-09-28 08:40

      The biggest disadvantage of democracy is that it allows two idiots to outvote a genius. Or lets two ignorant fools to outvote a thinking, logical person. Or lets two radicals outvote a moderate. Or two bullies to outvote a nerd.

      john32 - 2012-09-28 19:22

      there needs to be a new united front...a new party that can agree on matters and lead this country fowards...DA and cope and all the small parties must group together and kill this caANCer

  • nico.pretorius.946 - 2012-09-27 10:37

    Well Mthembu, brace yourself because it is going to happen, not the next election, but probably the one after.

      aristar.aristary - 2012-09-28 08:41

      Not if we can kill him off in a nice accident, before then. He travels to Limpopo quite often and there are an awful lot of accidents on that road. :>

  • gerald.mphuthi - 2012-09-27 10:37

    Malema would be first ever president after 1994 to equate isiZulu(or any other indegenous SA language) with illiteracy...

      blip.noodlum - 2012-09-27 10:42

      Illiteracy is,simply, an inability to read and write. Not one of the indigenous language speakers was literate until European missionaries taught them how to read and write, using the Roman alphabet. (One of the many gifts of colonialism.)

      abram.spamers - 2012-09-27 10:58

      The Zulu natives had stone aged housing, iron aged weapons, no system of writing, no seafaring capability... nothing. The Greeks, Mayans, Chinese and just about every other nation on earth was more advanced than that TWO THOUSAND YEARS AGO!

      aristar.aristary - 2012-09-28 08:46

      @abram.spamers Literacy or the ability to communicate by some other form than talking goes back at least twenty thousand years, if you count the ancient Chinese, Egyptians and Japanese. South Africa is way behind. AND Malema only got an H (I think) for his woodwork, but then he probably would have cut his fingers off if he had attended any classes. Then he wouldn't have had any to pick his nose with.

  • Tshilidzi Wa Ha Mukhovha - 2012-09-27 10:38

    Mthembu don't use anger or take things personal when uttering words with regards to any comrades. Your not anc you don't decide who to join or leave the organization.

      gngaleka - 2012-09-27 10:40

      Malema is not his comrade

      yrhonour.honour - 2012-09-27 13:58

      @Tshilidzi - you speak delicious English - you should be President

      kate.burgess.900 - 2012-09-27 15:27

      *You're

      lorain.maseko - 2012-09-28 07:11

      @ yrhonour.honour LMAO.Is it very delicious?

      aristar.aristary - 2012-09-28 08:50

      The biggest disadvantage of democracy is that it allows two idiots to outvote a genius. Or lets two ignorant fools to outvote a thinking, logical person. Or lets two radicals outvote a moderate. Or two bullies to outvote a nerd.

  • moses.m.masilela - 2012-09-27 10:39

    Indeed god will help you mr mthebu, that will happen. He will rule.

      rbphiri - 2012-09-27 11:35

      Huston we have a problem. There is still no signs of intelligent life on planet Moses.m.masilela. Please dispatch Chuck Norris to eradicate this armpit of a planet. PS castrate every male entity on the planet, we don't want further unintelligent off springs...over.

  • kgakgamatso.phatlane - 2012-09-27 10:40

    soon and very soon, Mthembu is a 'yes man'. I'd rather be lead by a decider than by someone who cant think for himself

      Ecosse.Nkosi - 2012-09-27 11:30

      Malema will stick a knife in your back quicker than blinking. Malema ngizobuya Umese wenashesha kuna ngokuphazima kweso

  • yaschoeman - 2012-09-27 10:40

    If then (ANC) is saying that imaging what we all thinking all long...

      napolita.kio - 2012-09-27 11:04

      In a rush to post a comment...coherence becomes an inconvenience.

      boyisile - 2012-09-28 10:47

      @Yaschoeman, The drunkard Jackson Mthembu is not ANC.

  • Mike Peach Purchase - 2012-09-27 10:41

    A man with brains and vision,well said.

  • ettiene.esterhuizen.7 - 2012-09-27 10:41

    Wat is die verskil tussen Malema en 'n aartappel? Niks, die moer hoort onder die grond. Ha-ha-ha

  • shaylene.stenger - 2012-09-27 10:42

    If he was such a bad person then why elect him in the first place? secondly birds of a feather flock together.... so it has a lot to say about your party does'nt it?

  • Notrax123 - 2012-09-27 10:42

    Do you believe in God Jackson? I agree with your statement, but let me add this: The days are getting darker, the shadow that is plaquing South Africa is increasing with every day that the ANC remain in power.

      Notrax123 - 2012-09-27 11:15

      @zaatheist. I may be what I may be but I have never disputed the existance of God (singular). I leave you with this: Is there life before death?

  • collinml - 2012-09-27 10:45

    Errr so how much is that ticket to Australia,or anywhere but here????? Why the hell would any "normal" person want Julius as a president?

      lynette.mufaro - 2012-09-27 11:10

      cheapest ticket to Zim is R150 on a bus but you can go there at R50 on a truck (oh,I forgot-no trucks,they are on strike!)

      duncan.gill1 - 2012-09-27 18:41

      @collinml what makes you think all reasonable people will run away..quite the contrary..many are waiting for the chance to fight for their rights with whatever means...a few like you will run away but most will stand and fight!No ways Julius will get what he wants "a pitch dark South Africa"..trust me on this..I feel it in my bones!

  • braamc - 2012-09-27 10:45

    No difference between the thieving rubbish in parliament and fatarse thieve Juliarse

  • phumi.ntlabati - 2012-09-27 10:46

    Mthembu must first address his drinking problems, then attend to his son who is a self-confessed drug addict, before he comes and address, the serious issues of our social discourse as a country. Till then, his views will never be taken seriously! Malema will be the president of this country one day, as was predicted by his boss a few years back! Asijiki!!!

      Naledi Virginia - 2012-09-27 11:08

      why would any1 want malema as a president, unedu blacks are really boring, let me tell you what will happen if malema becomes Mr Pre... 1. this country will get sanctions 2. the constitution will be re written by Malema from bad to worse, 3 the poor will get poor, 4 the final stage will be having SA going 2 other countries looking 4 a better Life! My conclusion will be Vote 4 the Whites!!!

      colin.langley - 2012-09-27 12:21

      Ag whatever Phumi! Remember this is a democracy. If the DA gets more voted than the bunch of rubbish in government now will you accept the will of the majority? Or would we be forced to quote Ian Smith...." Democracy is Africa means: One man, One vote, Once."

      lorain.maseko - 2012-09-28 07:13

      @ Naledi that is not eventhe worst of it, He WILL kill anyone who dare oppose him,trust me that is what he would do if he were president.

  • heini.botes - 2012-09-27 10:48

    I think Malema has success with the masses because of the Marxist dialogue he initiates. Granted, he has virtually no idea what he's talking about nor the consequences thereof, but the rhetoric evokes a strong sense of unity and the promise that change is possible once the 'white capitalists' are ejected from their positions of economic power. Telling that to the poorest, most illiterate and unedu cated individuals of South Africa, he allows them to think that via revolution, economic freedom can be reached. It's a believable and sweet idea, that only two kinds of people can buy into: 1. The uneducated, illiterate, poor, naive, conspiratorial, idealistic and lazy. 2. The political idiot/politically retarded. Thankfully most, if not all of the ANC leaders comprise the latter- and I don't mean it sarcastically. If this government was actually able to act and enforce Marxist policies it would be the tragic end of South Africa. P.S: Don't make this a race issue, cause that would just piss me off

      majaheni.magagula - 2012-09-27 22:28

      I think this fracas is inspired by shallow knowledge of Marxism and no knowledge of political science in general.

  • vusi.chaka - 2012-09-27 10:49

    Mthembu may god help u end ur boy to get life

  • theo.martinez.980 - 2012-09-27 10:49

    post Mandela it has only gone downhill. First AIDS-denialist Mbeki; then Zuma Inc; and who knows what's next. probably Zuma Inc II.

      george.slade.161 - 2012-09-27 10:53

      Actually its post 1994 ---Madiba didn,t do much either if u are honest !

  • mavivi.ntshongwana - 2012-09-27 10:51

    God must help us now that Zuma is a president and morons are running this Country

      zaatheist - 2012-09-27 10:57

      Oh please. No gods exist so there is no point relying upon them to do anyhting.

  • aram.skepsel - 2012-09-27 10:52

    Malema himself has said he has no ambitions of being president. He turned down offers to be a parliamentarian, saying parlaiment was for "old people". Instead, he prefers to be an activist on the ground.He did say he will lead the ANC one day, but clarified this mean people who serve in the organisation's NEC are leaders. This had to be understood as saying a leader is not necessarily the presidnet. Even his call for nationalisation and land grabs is a proposal which must be debated, he says. He realises he has not power to impose this proposal on the government. I still don't understand why people are so threatened by him. If you can't engage politically with Juju, shut up Mthembu!

      gerrit.vanpletzen - 2012-09-27 12:20

      Should be an activist under the ground!

      yrhonour.honour - 2012-09-27 14:03

      @aram ... wow you really are convincing - NOT

  • zaatheist - 2012-09-27 10:53

    Why are you so worried? I thought he had been thrown out of the ANC and he has a fat chance of successfully starting a new party to challenge for power. DO you know something we don't?

      crracker.crackerr - 2012-09-27 22:07

      Yes, what does he know that we don't?

      PrettyUsefulArt - 2012-09-28 02:46

      Hmm. Well spotted. Makes one think, eh?

  • Christiaan Apollis - 2012-09-27 10:54

    Why are you so afraid for Malema,Mr Mthembu?If the Anc goverment will just turn back 2 the Living God and to His ways.There will be no reason for fearing Malema.Otherwise we must face the worst.yes you are correct in your fear statement!!!

      zaatheist - 2012-09-27 10:57

      Oh please. No gods exist so there is no point relying upon them.

  • jennifer.d.martin.750 - 2012-09-27 10:56

    The word Psychopath comes to mind.

  • leonie.vanschalkwyk.18 - 2012-09-27 10:58

    ban the ANCYL then all your problems will be gone....they are all bad!!!

  • napolita.kio - 2012-09-27 10:59

    If God could not help with Mr Zuma, why should he care now. It was Archbishop Tutu on Mr Zuma and now it's Mr Mthembu on Mr Malema. Oh, how the "wise" never cease to amaze me.

  • nmateke - 2012-09-27 11:02

    Say This all to Zuma!!!, Malema is his son...like father like son remmember!!!!!

  • yrhonour.honour - 2012-09-27 11:02

    Mr Mthembu - you are 100% correct : )

  • SARealist - 2012-09-27 11:03

    JM can't ever become the Prez if he is found guilty of Money Laundering and having to sit a minimum of 15 years jail time. So first we need to watch the court outcome. Was JM not already been found guily in a court last week of tax fraud? Strange how he keeps very quite about that? Soon he will have his houses, property & farms seized and then..... WHAT A CIRCUS.......

  • toni.falletisch - 2012-09-27 11:04

    I agree with Jackson 100%, M stands for madness.

      theo.martinez.980 - 2012-09-27 11:41

      and Z stands for ZERO

      lebojaneraymond.hlakoane - 2012-09-27 12:13

      We understand he is buying you a booze..

  • anneck.cranke - 2012-09-27 11:04

    Well for once, just once, I agree with Jackson Mthembu. BUT that doesn't mean the ANC is the light at the end of the tunnel either!

  • bbooyse - 2012-09-27 11:05

    I would rather put everything I own on a pile and light it on fire than have it \nationalised\ by him and his comrades.

  • lynette.mufaro - 2012-09-27 11:05

    Why the heck are people so worried about Malema becoming SA President-the guy is an ANC red herring!Look at it this way,for Malema to become SA president,the only way he can do that in the foreseeable future is if he becomes the president of the ANC and to be honest,the chances of that happening anytime soon are negligible.You all are focusing on the wrong target here while 'stuff' is happening in the background.

  • BulletProof. - 2012-09-27 11:05

    Sebenza doesn't know if is black or white, is confused I think he born like that!!!!

  • jan.human - 2012-09-27 11:06

    He can become president of Pretoria central inmate club...

  • thokozani.mnyandu - 2012-09-27 11:06

    The very same question should also be refered to Motlante, Toyko and Phosa then you will see how stupid our leaders they can b sometimes if they want positions.

  • rknevhulaudzi - 2012-09-27 11:06

    Malema is a capitalist using the poor to settle his personal ambitions. we need not a leader of his caliber in our diverse South Africa.

  • marc.rule - 2012-09-27 11:06

    If this happens WE will all be Fu^%ed

  • elizadorcas.deu - 2012-09-27 11:06

    ok julle. get use to it. its the goverment and next it might be malema.raak gewoon solank

  • New_South_African_Glory - 2012-09-27 11:06

    Now I can Join the ANC and vote for this Mthembu caracter. Will my vote count at the next confrence can I start an ANC branch in my area.

  • mantothieve.missingman - 2012-09-27 11:06

    That will be the day this place goes up in flames.

  • elizadorcas.deu - 2012-09-27 11:06

    ok julle. get use to it. its the goverment and next it might be malema.raak gewoon solank

  • kevin.s.smith.73 - 2012-09-27 11:07

    Well,... it's only going to be a matter of time before he is president, ESPECIALLY the way the mainstream press is keeping his name in the headlines, huge panoramic photos of him surrounded by international TV crews, front-page pics, his name emblazoned on news posters, top story on every news broadcast.... The old saying..."any publicity is good publicity" can often be a scary truth. It's free advertising, even if it's meant to be a negative report. Rather relegate him to a paragraph on page8.

      harrison.ramosamo - 2012-09-27 11:15

      @ least he got my vote!!

  • aubrey.mabele - 2012-09-27 11:08

    I am concern about what I would call a fly by night leader called Jackson Mthembu. I thought we had a leader only to find we are led by an idiot!! What is saying about Malema is uncalled for. What does he think he is? Let us not vote and see if they will be in power if only the members of the ANC alone will beat the other parties as according to him, Malema is expelled from the party and doesn't have a say! So it means we are also nothing but votes! Leave Malema alone cause he is telling the truth Zuma must go and Jackson must go to school!!!

  • Stephen Radebe - 2012-09-27 11:09

    Mthembu you and the ANC and malema all of their supports of the African national congress. Their corrupt.

      ndlovuvincent - 2012-09-27 11:31

      Just a point of correction here,Mthembu has not been involved in corruption as yet but let us hope he is not as bad as others.Who can we trust?That is the difficult question.

  • sifiso.msimango - 2012-09-27 11:10

    correct mthembu correct

      aubrey.mabele - 2012-09-27 11:12

      Correct my foot!

  • sandy.sutherland.58 - 2012-09-27 11:12

    And the penny drops....

  • mphotant.thelejane - 2012-09-27 11:12

    Comdrade Mthembu, please do recognise that we masses reserve the right to decide...

      aubrey.mabele - 2012-09-27 11:13

      I will no longer regard him as a Comrade but a citizen!

      aubrey.mabele - 2012-09-27 11:16

      He is not a comrade but a mere citizen!

      heiku.staude - 2012-09-27 12:09

      Since when are we in russia