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Govt: Dalai Lama visa being processed

2014-09-04 11:37

Cape Town - A visa application by the Dalai Lama for South Africa is still being processed, and has thus not been denied as reported in the media, said international relations and co-operation department spokesperson Clayson Monyela.

Monyela, who is in China on business, tweeted on Thursday: “[The] SA High Commission in India has received a visa application from the Dalai Lama. The application is going [through] due process. No denial.”

Monyela further tweeted that the Dalai Lama’s South African representative was lying when she said that the exiled Tibetan leader’s visa had been denied.

Relations with China

AFP quoted the Dalai Lama's representative in SA, Nangsa Choedon, as saying the government "conveyed by phone to me they will not be able to grant the visa for the reason that it would disturb relations between China and South Africa".

The Cape Times reported on Thursday that the Dalai Lama was due to attend a Nobel Peace Laureate summit next month. Other Nobel Peace Laureates have told Archbishop Emirate Desmond Tutu they will not attend the summit if the Dalai Lama is not permitted to enter South Africa.

In February, the Chinese government reacted in anger as US President Barack Obama ignored their request to not meet with the exiled Tibetan leader.

In April, Norwegian authorities were left torn between a planned visit by the Dalai Lama to Oslo and warming up its chilly ties with China, AFP reported.

Comments
  • The Illuminated One - 2014-09-04 11:43

    I bet that he will be denied a visa by our corrupt government....(Watch this space)... I wonder what would the ANC Government have done if China or any other government for that matter did not grant a visa to Nelson Mandela?

      Gerhard Labuschagne - 2014-09-04 12:25

      I don't think they will deny it outright,they will prevaricate until after the date for the summit,at which point the Dalai Lama will no longer pursue his application and it will become moot.

      Denver Sykes - 2014-09-04 13:39

      There would have been an outcry of note if Madiba was denied a visa ANYWHERE in the world..However, it is easy to understand a denial for a visa to JZ,,from ANYWHERE in the world, "lock up their country coffers they will"

  • Lpk Pmc - 2014-09-04 11:44

    The left brain doesn't know what the right brain is doing! Oops sorry - there is no left brain!!

      Jan Grimbeek - 2014-09-04 11:49

      Neither a right brain

      Carling Blacklabel - 2014-09-04 13:40

      vacuum

  • Chris Felton - 2014-09-04 11:45

    Shane, the Goverment thinks we dont know their childish tactics. Just say it is in the process and everyone will forget about it. You will not give him a Visa, this we know. Yet, when Mugabe or any other African leader is denied a visa, they will scream bloody murder.

  • Jacob Majola - 2014-09-04 11:45

    They are right to not let this guy in the contry, his just making a trouble where he goes.

      Tonny Magagula - 2014-09-04 11:48

      Uyanya wena

      NoAbsolutes - 2014-09-04 11:51

      Really? Where?

      Chris May - 2014-09-04 11:56

      You back again? How's the bank? Loving you to bits?

      Tersia Louw - 2014-09-04 12:15

      Jacob, ever heard of the Dunning-Kruger effect?

      Jacqui Daane Van Rensburg - 2014-09-04 12:20

      Jacob Majola. You don't have a clue who he is do you?. If it is jus a lack of knowledge there is still hope for you.

      Jon Hing - 2014-09-04 13:09

      @Jacob Oh please tell us, "what trouble"?

      moles - 2014-09-04 13:49

      A question to those who defending this old man ,why is he in exile by the way .WHy his own country does not want him ?

      Jannie Kotze - 2014-09-04 14:07

      Communism is about oppression, hence no freedom of speech or religion or peace. They will never allow the Dalai Lama in SA. He is too peacefull and honest. This does not fit in with Zoompie’s corruptions and lies. Shame on JZ and his cronnies ! CancER deceive us again...

      Jannie Kotze - 2014-09-04 14:13

      @moles. He is a threat to communism and oppression !!!!!

      Margaret Cox - 2014-09-04 14:25

      Moles - his own country was invaded by China. I suggest you read a little before opening your mouth.

  • Charissa Kemp - 2014-09-04 11:46

    Isnt this the same excuses they used last time then bam it was denied?

  • Jurgen Eksteen - 2014-09-04 11:46

    So what they're actually saying is that the visa will be rejected later and has not yet been rejected. China will not suffer SA to allow this monk entrance.

  • Roddy Jardim - 2014-09-04 11:46

    Bullsh@t , anc are purposely delaying it so as to satisfy their masters wishes I.e. china

  • Warren - 2014-09-04 11:47

    1 Oct 2014: "Unfortunately due to the late processing of the Visa application he was unable to attend"

  • Method - 2014-09-04 11:49

    China's being very childish...

  • NoAbsolutes - 2014-09-04 11:50

    Deja vu. It took so long to 'process' the visa application the last time (Tutu's birthday 2012) that he was forced to cancel. Quite cowardly really.

  • Duncan Colter - 2014-09-04 11:50

    Sometimes the media does some good...

  • Nkosi Fuze Ka Ndokweni - 2014-09-04 11:51

    Nothing new there, the Dalai Lama will be denied being granted a visa. The reason is that we are puppets of countries like China, they say jump SA and we ask how high! Same old, same old story.

  • Jan Grimbeek - 2014-09-04 11:52

    Maybe he should pay a big enough bribe to fill a couple of anc cadres pockets ? !

  • Juanita Golgaves - 2014-09-04 11:57

    Because no one knows what the other is doing, as is usual in this country !

  • Joel Mabeke - 2014-09-04 11:57

    Ok, our eyes will be wide open on this one we are not blinking a second.

  • Chris May - 2014-09-04 11:59

    OK, today will be good. We want an answer by 17h00.

  • Sivuyile Cirha Sifuku - 2014-09-04 12:00

    Home affairs must stop playing games,they must tell south africans why there's always issues with Dalai lam to visit SA.

      michael.tetley.35 - 2014-09-04 13:40

      Agreed.

  • Marius Santana - 2014-09-04 12:01

    Fascinating how a single man of a peace is so feared by one of the largest most powerful nations on the planet! Makes you wonder does it not?

  • Mark Neil Wade - 2014-09-04 12:01

    who to believe .. a noble leader or the anc govt who protects and defends the theft of R246 000 000 ...

  • Jaco Du Plessis - 2014-09-04 12:03

    Exactly what happened the previous time - process the visa until such time that it is not possible anymore for the Dalai Lama to arrange a flight to SA - you really think all of us are idiots in this country?????

  • Jacques Le Roux - 2014-09-04 12:07

    Like last time?

  • Sakhile Goodman Sokhela - 2014-09-04 12:08

    I have not read a lot about Daila Lama so I won't comment. I'll just go and read about him. Meanwhile to me, it just feels right to let him in.

      Chris May - 2014-09-04 12:29

      He is about peace and wisdom - so thank you

      Margaret Cox - 2014-09-04 14:27

      And kindness, and tolerance.

  • Lawrence Robert Atkinson - 2014-09-04 12:17

    And processed and processed and processed and processed. Anything other than the truth. Anything other than approved. Tell the truth.

  • Jacqui Daane Van Rensburg - 2014-09-04 12:17

    It's being processed on the never never. Too scared of the anger of their Chinese taskmasters they will again deny this gentle man to visit. He should know by now that the South African government has long ago sold its soul to the Chinese.

  • CliveK - 2014-09-04 12:19

    Damage control?

  • Gregory Jaftha - 2014-09-04 12:25

    O what a load of bull...but the guptas whole family can land in SA without any documentation or visas to be in the country

  • Bolsheviks Gauteng - 2014-09-04 12:28

    Shane, the Goverment thinks we dont know their childish tactics. Just say it is in the process and everyone will forget about it. You will not give him a Visa, this we know. Yet, when Mugabe or any other African leader is denied a visa, they will scream bloody murder

  • harold.marsberg - 2014-09-04 12:32

    We are so cosy with China, why don't we adopt their treatment of corrupt government officials as well? Take them out back and firing squad!

      michael.tetley.35 - 2014-09-04 13:39

      Amen to that.

  • Teko Mohaeka - 2014-09-04 12:36

    Dalai comes or not we will still get our earthquakes and all that has to happen.

  • Sia M Mweli - 2014-09-04 12:40

    Iv got nothing against the dalai lama and his beliefs but I strongly think that white south africans take every chance to critise the black run gov not bcoz of the vast challenges (as we live in a very diverse country) it faces but bcoz of being unable to conform to black rule which I may add is non discriminative against them even after centuries of blckbeing opressed. It suits them now in this article to side with the dalai lama saga bcoz the article tends to be critic of the gov! It suits them not fully understanding the dalai lama beliefs to side with him as the gov is called chinas puppet ( whereas other white gov hav been puppets of the west for eons but this is considered right!). It suits them to side with the dalai lama not having even heard or seen full statements concernin this appplication ( I would think visa application would be regarded as private until process is complete). Even though this may be china and dalai lama war playing in the SA media, what do you as the critics understand about this war, are you chinese or tibet? no I think not what concerns you here? the chinese people have ever really cared much or shown interest in other countries social affairs why should we?. White man of SA you look all over the world and in news papers trying so hard to find something that tarnishes the image of our country and not bcoz you geniuly care but bcoz you selfishly love this country and hate to see it in the hands of a black gov!!!!!!!!!!!!

      Andrew MacDonald - 2014-09-04 13:19

      what a load of sh it man. pathetic actually. If "the chinese people have ever really cared much or shown interest in other countries social affairs why should we?" then how come this is the about the dalai lama entering SOUTH AFRICA you cretin, not china ffs! sorry but sometimes i read something so utterly stupid i have to respond in kind, now grow up, wake up and get on with your world in your black skin you think makes you different pal, good luck to you.

      Lee-anne van der Mescht - 2014-09-04 13:26

      You are an IDIOT, the Dai Lama is a man of peace, whom the Anc has denied a visa, but has no problem with giving Gaddafi a visa ( a well known dictator).... grow up you t*t

      Jaco Du Plessis - 2014-09-04 14:56

      Siam, did you follow the Dalai Lama issue the past few years? How do you explain Arch Tutu's involvement in trying to get the Dalai Lama in SA and his criticising of Government for not allowing him in the country a few years ago. Read the blog - all South Africans (black, white, pink, purple, etc.) have a problem with Govt refusing him entry.

      Janine Filmer - 2014-09-04 15:17

      Drivel of the highest order.

  • vernon - 2014-09-04 12:42

    But they will let mugarbage in no problem.

  • Ngawethu Leonard Mtirara - 2014-09-04 12:46

    We can't allow one of the most spritual people alive of this time entry but international fugitive Radovan Krejcir up until recently had made south africa his home. We're a ridiculous country

      michael.tetley.35 - 2014-09-04 13:27

      We also allow assorted dictators like Haile Mengistu Mariam of Ethiopian famine fame refuge in our country too. Definitely kow-towing to Beijing on this one. Disgusting!

      Marius Santana - 2014-09-04 13:31

      Yes Ngawethu, this is a spiritual man, a man of peace, a man that does not have an army, exiled without a country of his own, yet the Chinese fear him so much that they are willing to make fools of the South African government! It is only when we chop the last tree off that we will realise that we cant breathe money (in the spiritual sense) Just cant believe we were sold to the Chinese so cheaply...

      Margaret Cox - 2014-09-04 14:30

      I think the Chinese smile in Zuma's face, and despise and laugh at him behind his back.

  • William Steven Pearson - 2014-09-04 12:49

    If they do not let this man in, we are officially being dictated to by the Chinese, I am sorry the last time I checked I was a South African...

      Marius Santana - 2014-09-04 13:33

      The Chinese now owns our sorry asses... and they got it for a basement bargain!

  • Denise Micallef - 2014-09-04 12:52

    “If you want to make peace with your enemy, you have to work with your enemy. Then he becomes your partner. -Nelson Mandela, activist, South African president, Nobel Peace Prize (b. 1918)” ? Nelson Mandela

  • Gratitude Ncube - 2014-09-04 13:03

    Desmond Tutu iz smiling ear to ear

  • Adri Vosloo - 2014-09-04 13:04

    I smell a RAT

  • Utopian Indigent - 2014-09-04 13:08

    Liars. How can people still trust them after so many lies? Backpeddling due to outrage over ANC cowardice. Like Julian says, to be comically approved after the summit like the previous time. Why are the voters still fooled, or was Zuma right about "not so clever voters"?

  • Zola Silayi - 2014-09-04 13:09

    lies lies..they wont bring this holy world man to south africa.

  • Utopian Indigent - 2014-09-04 13:10

    Where are those shameless ANC defenders on News24 every time their party lies?

      Margaret Cox - 2014-09-04 14:31

      Gone to fetch their grant money.

  • Lee-anne van der Mescht - 2014-09-04 13:31

    We as South Africans should protest if the Anc denies him a visa, the last time I looked I was South African and I don't think we should take orders from the Chinese

  • Johan Steyn - 2014-09-04 13:32

    If he was black it would have been done ages ago.

  • Grant Wykerd - 2014-09-04 13:42

    Ooi, the Dalai Lamar has already cancelled his trip after being refused yet again... they claim to be processing his Visa, but it's a smoke screen cause he cancelled his trip already! Eish!? The fact is that this CancER is sounding more and more like the NATS... prey tell, who gives them the right to refuse him access? Is North Korea or South Africa? These days I just can't tell!

  • Ewald van den Heever - 2014-09-04 13:44

    Hopefully said representative records her voice calls. For a govt representative to publicly call somebody else a liar is a biggy. That said, the question now has to be asked - do they extend the visa, which then proves the point and tee off the Chinese, or do they placate their "investment partners" and deny the visa for some arb reason. Circling back to an oldie but still a goodie i.e. the Gupta saga, how many of that family had visa's issued and processed when they landed at Waterkloof?

  • Julia Griffiths - 2014-09-04 13:44

    Pathetic. SA Government stop letting outsiders dictate to us

  • Lee-anne van der Mescht - 2014-09-04 13:44

    We are firmly opposed to other countries providing a platform for the Dalai Lama's activities that aim at dividing China, and we oppose foreign leaders meeting him," foreign ministry spokesperson Qin Gang said. so the Chinese are our masters now??

  • Grant Wykerd - 2014-09-04 13:51

    So funny Henry...

  • Solomon Lebelo - 2014-09-04 13:58

    Big fat ANC liars,i wish this morons burn in hell,what kind of animals r they

  • marelize.pinto - 2014-09-04 13:59

    Our government refuse to speak out against ISIS, but refuse the Dalai Lama a visa. Pathethic! Terrorist, communist supporters. Show the world who you really are.

  • Ty Len - 2014-09-04 14:43

    @Henry van Reen hahaha, wouldn't even be a surprise

  • Mzwamadoda Phillips - 2014-09-04 15:22

    In 1996 Mandela, despite intense pressure from the Chinese, not only allowed the Dalai Lama to visit South Africa, but agreed to meet with him-David Saks Blog "I often meet with extraordinary and special people, spiritual leaders, royalty, Nobel laureates, presidents, world icons. For the most part, the reputation that precedes these people is somewhat exaggerated, creating an atmosphere of greatness around them. Each time I meet these people, I find that their person is in actuality not as large as their reputation. In preparing to meet with Nelson Mandela, I considered that his reputation was in fact the largest in the world. There is no-one greater living on the planet at this time. And in only his case, did I find the person larger than the reputation.” Dalai Lama