Govt employs 1.3m public servants

2010-11-24 14:05

Cape Town - There are almost 1.3 million public servants employed within South Africa's national and provincial governments, Public Service and Administration Minister Richard Baloyi said on Wednesday.

In a written reply to a parliamentary question, he said national government employed 391 922 people, and the nine provincial governments a total of 891,430 people.

Of the total 1 283 352 government employees, 10 598 were senior managers, 20 996 "middle" managers, and 1 251 758 served at a "non-management service level".

Among the provinces, the KwaZulu-Natal government employed the most public servants (187 673), followed by Gauteng (150 303).

The Eastern Cape government has 146 714 public servants, while the Western Cape employs 77 820.

The reply is dated October 22 this year.

  • Ockert - 2010-11-24 14:36

    What were the totals in 1993 ?

      SteveC - 2010-11-24 14:57

      Probably a qaurter of what it is now

      Zinhle - 2010-11-24 15:02

      who cares about the totals in 1993?

      shmangle - 2010-11-25 07:38

      Agreed, who cares what the 93 totals were. Just because the Nats were efficient doesn't make them nice folk. The nazi's were very efficient too. Our end of the scale isn't sunshine and roses either though, I'm sure we could get by with less than half the figure if our public servants were actually competent at their job. Big government is a drain on the taxpayer, and all that money could actually be plowed into developing skills, and creating private sector jobs.

  • muttlet - 2010-11-24 15:00

    Lets do a quick comparison of two countries. South Africa 1.3 million public servants out of a population of 50 million. This means that 2.7% of the population is employed by the government. Now. United States 6.5 million public servants out of a population of 310 million. This equates to 2.0% of the total population is employed by the government. Is governing the country of South Africa more difficult than that of the United States. Hmmmm. In my humble opinion it calls into question South African public sector productivity and efficiency.

      haha - 2010-11-24 15:50

      We probably need a bigger police force for all the crime happening in this country which I don't think compares with the US.

      shmangle - 2010-11-25 07:41

      Yeah, except the yank cops are properly trained, and better paid for the most part. Ours are incompetent fools, most out to make a buck, and doing the job, not because they want to make a difference, but because the standards are low enough to be accepted. We have a big, bloated (dual meaning intended) police force, which is largely(again) ineffective.

  • robertgunning - 2010-11-24 15:18

    Interesting to note that in population sizes of the provinces (using the last census as my basis) the dispersion of public servants seems to be equitable. It does seem that national government is a little top heavy though.

  • Margaret2 - 2010-11-24 15:23

    If the Western Cape can manage with only 77,820 public servants, why can't the other 3 provinces mentioned do likewise?

      robertgunning - 2010-11-24 15:49

      Maybe this might help you understand (it's about population size)

      Margaret2 - 2010-11-24 16:22

      @robertgunning - I can understand that in certain areas extra staff may be needed, eg a more populous province will probably have a larger number of overdue municipal accounts for rates, water, etc and therefore will need larger numbers of people chasing the offenders, but does this apply in all areas of administration and services?

  • roberts.charl - 2010-11-24 15:54

    Can we have the numbers on how many of these staff members actually do anything?

  • Kaspaas - 2010-11-24 16:14

    How many of them are actually working?

      potevan - 2010-11-24 16:55

      Working...what's that???

  • kevick - 2010-11-24 16:20

    Come on ANC .Get productive . Lose 50% of the people. Retrench your aunty ,uncle ,mother and cousin.

  • Allin - 2010-11-24 17:51

    How come service delivery is so SHYTE if one "public servant" only has 40 people to take care of? In theory it means a government employee (they are not servants as they don't serve the public) spends 12 minutes every day "working for me", every day? BS

  • Joe - 2010-11-25 02:25

    Who'd have thought so many could do so little...

  • GV - 2010-11-25 11:22

    How many of them actually do a full day's work.

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