Govt has no regrets about deaths - FYL

2012-08-31 09:19

Johannesburg - Charging 270 Lonmin mineworkers with murder is a sign that the South African government does not regret the killing of 34 miners, the Friends of the Youth League (FYL) said on Thursday.

"This decision is the most bizarre, hilarious, horrible, insensitive, disgusting, terrible, sick, and totally unacceptable decision any sensitive government of the people can ever take," said FYL spokesperson Floyd Shivambu.

On Thursday, the State added murder to the charges against 270 miners arrested after police opened fire on a group of striking workers gathered on a hill near Lonmin's Marikana mine, killing 34 of them and wounding 78 on August 16.

The National Prosecuting Authority said all the arrested miners would be charged with murder, attempted murder and public violence. The miners appeared in the Ga-Rankuwa Magistrate's Court.

Bail application postponed

"The mourning displayed by some of the ministers, the assurances given by Mr Jacob Zuma and his cabinet are nothing but pure lie to mislead workers, and the people of South Africa," said Shivambu.

He said the FYL was also dismayed by the courts' decision to allow the State to postpone the workers' bail application.

"In South African law... those who get arrested should appear for bail application within 48 hours, but the Lonmin mineworkers are now in police stations and prisons for more than 15 days."

Shivambu said the court was failing to administer justice.

Expelled ANC Youth League president Julius Malema told protesters outside the court that charging the miners with murder was madness.

"The policemen who killed those people are not in custody, not even one of them. This is madness," he said. "The whole world saw the policemen kill those people."

He said the FYL had arranged lawyers to represent the miners.

  • michael.vanrheenen.9 - 2012-08-31 09:25

    How can you not see that the police acted in self defence? What were they supposed to do Shivambu? Hug them when they attacked the police? You were a f$5kup in the ANCYL and you will be a f%&kup in FYL too... Just STFU!!!

      derek.gunter.946 - 2012-08-31 10:01

      I think reports should headline "34 miners were killed trying to attack police after they hacked some of them to death with machetes". And another point of interest... If the Boeremag were convicted of treason for conspiring to revolt, why is bra Julius and bra Floyd still running around free?

      janice.mcmaster.92 - 2012-08-31 10:29

      Exactly. They got precicely what they were looking for!!!!!

      darryl.maze1 - 2012-08-31 11:18

      @Rinae. Why has there always gotta be one brainless dimwit on here to comment and please go back to school and learn how to write cause your comment makes no sense

      Havokreeka - 2012-08-31 11:46

      Rinae you absolute twit! They tried rubber bullets, fire hoses and tear gas, the miners still kept advancing. So get your facts straight, retard!

      jbm.moate - 2012-08-31 13:06

      @Rinae Khotsia - I feel bad for you, its not that you don't know english, its just that you don't know how to spell...reading your comment gave me a headache for days...

      ndumiso.gagayi - 2012-09-01 00:20

      Michael woh do you defend yourself with an automatic riffle against a nobkirie and a panga?those miners were shot at the back,how is that self defence?You are using the same reasoning that was used by whites during apartheid when they killed i'm not suprised

  • Gordon20 - 2012-08-31 09:25

    Malema and Floyd should of been with the miners the day they got shot! Its easy to stand up now and talk.......

      mihaip007 - 2012-08-31 09:48

      that aurora visit was a bit LATE won;t you think? Only when he wants to create a new "revolution" in a different disguise - I swear this guy thinks he is Che Guevara. It will just never work with that belly of his...

      nigel.vanysendyk - 2012-08-31 10:28

      hahaha, I had to laugh when old cut & paste king Malema (AKA condom comrade or Demogugue JuJu) rocked up to address the Arora workers, this there ever was opportunism, this is it, eish this snake is delusional.

  • Trevorcentury - 2012-08-31 09:36

    Fly away juju fly away floyd don't come back you stupid idiots

  • mantothieve.missingman - 2012-08-31 09:38

    Jeesh but shivambo had a few buckets of KFC hey , These freaks of youth leaqe are trying to maintain their lavish lifetsyl they dont have access to anc tenders anymore , One can give them some points for trying at least

      MatomeAnchor - 2012-08-31 10:19

      Their lavish lifestyle is maintained by those wo somehow benefitted from Juju's influence in government tender boards. Payback tym to keep these toads on the road

  • peter.j.cock - 2012-08-31 09:47

    Shivambu - you just described yourself -"bizarre, hilarious, horrible, insensitive, disgusting, terrible, sick, and totally unacceptable"

      nigel.vanysendyk - 2012-08-31 10:29


  • iceman196 - 2012-08-31 09:48

    wow friends of the youth league sound more stupid than the league itself, if thats possible

  • Anton Van Schalkwyk - 2012-08-31 09:48

    can the fyl become any more idiotic? now that malema and floyd have a new platform to spew out their gibberish!! how would you have felt had you stood shoulder to shoulder with the boys in blue and 5000 odd maniacs with spears had charged at you with murderous intent?! would you not have acted to preserve your life and that of your comrades!? would you have stood idly by while some psycho with a spear stuck it in all your major organs in alphabetical order!? i challenge you two, to go join the saps, go join the riot squad, and THEN STAND STILL AND LET YOURSELF GET KILLED!! you effing politicians sit in air conditioned offices that WE PAY FOR and have the gall to tell us that we are wrong to fight violence with violence, fight to preserve our own lives!! get off your ass and go see what its like! ive worn a navy uniform, ive been there!! you know nothing!!

  • kala.bafazi - 2012-08-31 09:49

    Nor do I. I do have one regret though and that is that the ancyl still exists and Shivambu and Malema haven't fallen down some old mine shaft. I guess that is two regrets.

  • darryl.maze1 - 2012-08-31 09:51

    Oh Floyd! Why dont you, friends of the youth league and the ANCLY just bugger off. You are all the ones that started this. You got your followers all fired up and when it started you all stayed in the distance with your expensive jonny blue label and buckets of KFC. If you were there for the workers you should"ve all been in the front line. But you acted like typical cowards. ANCYL, FYL and all the mining union leaders should be charged with murder.

  • dhavandran.palavar - 2012-08-31 09:54

    what did you expect? you have the vote. use it wisely in the next elections.

      colin.dovey - 2012-08-31 10:12

      Yup, but unfortunately they don't know the TRUE meaning of wise: "Marked by the exercise of good judgment or common sense in practical matters"

  • melusi.myaluza - 2012-08-31 09:57

    FYL,no ways? They aren't this eloquent,they can't even read!

  • kolekile.snama - 2012-08-31 10:04

    mourning my foot, they pretended as if they cared. They kill people and pretend as if they care. They are concerned about retaining their positions. The intelligence would hv foreseen the problem and prevent the bloodbath pity we dont have any. Power has corrupted them big time

      Havokreeka - 2012-08-31 11:48


  • kolekile.snama - 2012-08-31 10:06

    mourning my foot, they pretended as if they cared. They kill people and pretend as if they care. They are concerned about retaining their positions. The intelligence would hv foreseen the problem and prevent the bloodbath pity we dont have any. Power has corrupted them big time

  • hermann.hanekom - 2012-08-31 10:14


  • shirley.steenkamp - 2012-08-31 10:16

    Firstly Floyd-you are a walking contadictio-"disgusting and hilarious"? All you do is incite hatred and violence,tyrrany and deception. Stop trying to make heroes out of thugs! But then again,you probably feel at home in thug company.

  • Mike_or_Mpho - 2012-08-31 10:22

    hahaha, that makes no sense, but sense is not expected from this peanut and his comrades

  • Robert - 2012-08-31 10:23

    It appears that the ANCYL is still very much under the influence of Mr Malema who's self-serving campaign to discredit the government’s handling of the mine crisis is now nearing point where they are very close to heading towards a call for insurrection. We should be wary of the outcomes here as the ANC leadership is under fire from its own.

  • allan.keyzer - 2012-08-31 10:23

    The message is very clear NO ONE is allowed to appose the government or they will take action against you. We are further down the road to being a dictatorship than we realise. Boeremag 2 - this will continue for decades. Marikana is the ANC's show of force the same that Sharpville was for the NAT's

      roelfensusanne.mare - 2012-08-31 10:32

      How old are you,Boet? You can't speak about you don't know! If the police didn't shoot to kill they would be dead now. Same as in the Sharpville case. They r a lot of thugs who orgistrated this incident and now try to get sympathy from the public and world.

  • wendy.schneider3 - 2012-08-31 10:24

    verbal diarrhoea again

  • nigel.vanysendyk - 2012-08-31 10:26

    who is this FYL, who gave them the monopoly to exist?

  • scooter.moepeng - 2012-08-31 10:28

    police should have killed all of those bastard.. nxa

  • kim.cloete.94 - 2012-08-31 10:28

    Think the government got this one wrong, they should be charging the Unions involved and hold them responsible - they incited the whole affair.

  • john.jack.1612147 - 2012-08-31 10:30

    Zuma and the ANC cadres must be charged for genocide at the ICC for the massacre of miners

  • andre.vandeventer.16 - 2012-08-31 10:32

    Just proves that they do not know how the legal system works. It is not the government who is charging the miners, it's the National Prosecution Agency (NPA), which in a democratic society operates independently from the government. They know nothing about democracy yet they shout it from the rooftops!

  • nhlanhla.s.zwane - 2012-08-31 10:33

    the story and the case is still fresh as time goes on the political opportunist will forget about the arrested mine workers and continue to look for other opportunities soomewhere else. FYL is just fooling the miners.

      kingKanete - 2012-08-31 11:29

      not everyone forgets injustice as fast as mr president

      Bernard Ochora Nyagaka - 2012-08-31 12:12

      i hate politics,why we hav this many problems amongst pple is that leaders like lies and dnt educate pple,malemas shivambus they intentionally ignoring to tel th victims th truth tat nw its SA Democratic country its no longer Apartheid so pple shouldn't toyi toyi with weapons,pple are dead police security bt stil ua lying to th illiterate people tat th government is is a pig eating its pple ,are pple nt pigs coz they eating their government?stop misusing th suffering pple who hav even lost their relatives to score ua cheap political marks

  • - 2012-08-31 10:34

    well .. in any country, if you point a firearm at a policeman, you are going to get shot .. so what do you say about the miners that were very happy to shoot the police and where did they get their arms from ?? How much are you making as a spokesman?

      kingKanete - 2012-08-31 11:25

      if i recall there were only 2 firearms among the miners. Does that warrant 34 deaths?

      tricia.sutherland1 - 2012-08-31 11:36

      2 firearms are nothing - what about the pangas and machettes - don't forget they murdered 2 policemen, 2 security guards and 6 non-striking workers. those miners are murderers and what would you have done if they came charging at you????? easy to blame the police hey!

  • nhlanhla.s.zwane - 2012-08-31 10:34

    A normal person should not listen to FYL.

      ndumiso.gagayi - 2012-09-01 00:32

      so that means you are not normal since you commenting on his story lmao

  • ryan.wilkins.944 - 2012-08-31 10:37

    What is inteeresting to see is how the "FYL" can get funding to provide lawyers for the miners. I wonder where they gets these "funds" from...

  • ryan.wilkins.944 - 2012-08-31 10:44

    Funny how the "FYL" can finance lawyers for these miners. One can only guess where they are getting the funds from...

  • roger.howdy - 2012-08-31 10:49

    Friends of the Youth League (FYL) they should rather change to FML

  • MagdaKus - 2012-08-31 10:52

    My friend's colleague's husband was beaten up to the point of becoming brain dead by some ANCYL protesters in CT because they thought he was going to work... strange world.

  • dirk.naude.12 - 2012-08-31 11:01

    What does regret have to do with this? These guys striked and turned violent. They came to the police, they tried to conquer and saw their @$$.

  • michelle.h.koekemoer - 2012-08-31 11:13

    Geez, how fat has old Floydie boy got??? too much of the good life?

  • Pete7930 - 2012-08-31 11:24

    Floyd, why dont you drink some 'muti' too, and find a nice policeman to confront?

  • brionyl.french - 2012-08-31 11:26


  • tricia.sutherland1 - 2012-08-31 11:29

    "This decision is the most bizarre, hilarious, horrible, insensitive, disgusting, terrible, sick, and totally unacceptable decision any sensitive government of the people can ever take," said FYL spokesperson Floyd Shivambu .... well, for a change i agree with the government - what is sick is how those miners hacked 2 policemen and 2 security guards to death with pangas and machettes and they killed 6 non-striking workers. they were a threat to the police and the police did what any one of us would've done if a large group of people came running towards us ready to kill. Who is this idiot Shivambu???

  • godrick.mlambo - 2012-08-31 11:33

    The only thing this country needs is nothing but nationalization of mines.... it not sounding to few individuals owning the countries wealth.... people should share, period.

      dirk.naude.12 - 2012-08-31 12:12

      I heard trapped chinese miners survived 2 weeks by eating coal and drinking urine.

      kent.paulsen.79 - 2012-08-31 13:16

      @ godrick.mlambo. If nationalized, I will garentee you, you will get nothing. Neither you, your family nor your friends will get a share, so why are you still pushing this button as only the few in goverment will get something and when that is finished a new source of money must be found.

  • ndumiso.gagayi - 2012-09-01 00:26

    If you are white please dont comment on this unless because this is no different to the sharpville massacre and you did not see anything wrong then so you wont see anything wrong now.

  • godfrex.khumalo - 2012-09-01 07:47

    im nt a malema fan yet i find it horrible dat the whte apartheid mentality of enjoying seeing people killed due to bread n butter issues still accepted. malema is an opportunist yet who cld have made sure that the voice of these miners is heard? do u think if malema did nt intervene the attention to this issue was gonna b this high? i doubt it. these miners wanted a voice n they got it frm malema, they wanted legal representation n dey got it thru malema. as much as they had no right to attack the police, da police also had no right to use live ammunition. why not teargas, why nt rubber bullets? what was live ammunition doing in da scene. 4 me it was pre-palnned dat they were gonna b shot at ultimatelty.

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