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Hands off Christmas, protesters say

2012-11-10 22:12

Johannesburg - A group of Christian demonstrators handed over a memorandum to Home Affairs Minister Naledi Pandor on Saturday to oppose a proposal to remove Good Friday and Christmas as public holidays.

"Hands off Christmas and Good Friday," said the group outside Constitution Hill in Johannesburg.

The group of around 100 protesters which were led by head of the African Christian Democratic Party's Reverend Kenneth Meshoe delivered a memorandum of understanding to Pandor to oppose a motion by the Commission for the Protection and Promotion of Cultural, Religious and Linguistic Communities.

The commission was allegedly exploring the idea of requesting government to scrap Good Friday and Christmas from the national calendar. They alleged that the celebrating of the two Christian holidays discriminated and excluded other religious denominations.

Reading the memorandum, Meshoe said they did not believe the two holidays discriminated against any religion.

"According to Statistics South Africa, Christians make up 79.5% of the country's population," said Meshoe.

He said the existence of these two holidays on the calendar showed the majority's standing.

Pandor told demonstrators that she had not yet received any enquiries from the commission, and urged them to "prepare for a jolly festive season".

Comments
  • mfihlakaloyezulu.ncwadiengcwele1 - 2012-11-10 22:19

    Can you believe this?

      sthembiso.jali.50 - 2012-11-10 22:30

      Noop. Doesn't make sense. Just like that name u using.

      sheik.mohammad.378 - 2012-11-10 22:45

      I believe everything the government says....... nudge, nudge, wink, wink say no more.

      lownabester - 2012-11-10 22:52

      The ANC will still use it as holidays, but with different names, the bloody idiots, Leave us to enjoy our Holidays, you have taken everything away from us.

      tiaan.vanderberg.75 - 2012-11-10 22:53

      love your name dude or dudess! how old were you before you could write it? I see there is a "1" at the end. Does that mean there are more than one of You? I am glad you are not a soccer star and im the commentor. just kidding , go well.

      LutherKingsley - 2012-11-11 00:33

      So South Africa will continue to use the International Gregorian Christian calendar, but scrap the religious holidays associated with it, sigh.

      tw2066 - 2012-11-11 05:38

      THE GIMP WHO STOLE CHRISTMAS

      beverly.young3 - 2012-11-11 06:36

      I am sure she was quoted out of context. I mean imagine advising the JSC that thhey may not close on Christmas, as it is NOT a holiday. The day is NOT a religious, as many of us know, but the traditions are well endowed, and should be left alone.

      vuyisan - 2012-11-11 07:03

      what happened to "majority enjoy more rights, that's how democracy works"

      Nigel - 2012-11-11 08:01

      Is there nothing else of more importance to concentrate on in this country, other than to see how pis#$d off you can make people? Christian holidays are not and never have been any problem in this country. Please attend to the many other very serious problems this country faces idiots.

      albert.m.burger - 2012-11-11 09:10

      Don't touch me on my christmas!!!

      marcusvandermerwe - 2012-11-11 15:43

      I really wonder who is really behind systematically removing Christian holidays and prayer from schools? Next thing you know church services will be too offending to non-christians. So where does the line get drawn?

      Bobbycat - 2012-11-12 13:23

      SA is a Constitutional Democracy that protects the rights of minorities. For all those out there like Meshoe, saying "we're the majority" so "we must have our way" ... get over yourselves. The majority is under 40 years old, the majority is right handed, the majority is black, the majority is straight, the majority is female, and yes.. the majority is Christian. Being in any of these majorities give you no more or less rights than anyone else - as guaranteed by our constitution. As for the holidays, let them be challenged, let the issue go right up the chain to the constitutional court and if you respect the SA Constitution then at the end of the day you shouldn't have an issue with the outcome.

      eddy.deepfield - 2012-11-12 17:44

      South Africa is a secular state, therefore there should be NO official religious holidays. Christians, Jews, Hindus and Muslims can celebrate their own holy days on their own. Christians can apply for leave and indulge there own imbecility, just like the other superstitious people have to do.

      jmlongwe - 2012-11-12 20:32

      So many people dont know Christianity borrowed a lot from pagans, even going to church on a Sunday is a pagan thing. Real Christians used to go to church on a Saturday the Sabbath.

      jmlongwe - 2012-11-12 21:04

      These Christian protesters should have kept quiet and this whole thing would have been swept under the carpet, now they make noise and give those others publicity, now Pando really needs to look into it now, foolishness. I'm not saying sweeping things under the carpet is good, its just that people want to threaten our day off.

      Montagnes.Bleues - 2012-11-12 21:41

      Yes - http://bit.ly/Ujy3Nj just take a good look at what is going down around you!

  • cheslin.white.7 - 2012-11-10 22:24

    Are these bloody clowns for real? Are these morons really our leaders?

      rodney.bevan.58 - 2012-11-10 22:41

      By using the same "reasoning", they will have to ban all muslim festivals as well. Lets see how far they get with that one. Braindead morons.

      sheik.mohammad.378 - 2012-11-10 22:52

      By just looking at the well feed members of this government........ I'd say YES, they are for real, but then again their votes for guaranteed thanks to grant bribes.

      arthur.hugh - 2012-11-11 02:00

      Lighten up folks, you HAVE to see the funny of this, really... Juliaas: "Yah. Krismuss ees kenselled. Blerry fet white man kaant feet in a chimanee. Whut blek peson hes ay chimanee. Those sheks, there is no chimanee. We hev de-nasionilized eet, Futha Krismuss yoo blerry agent".

      lorain.maseko - 2012-11-12 07:03

      Yep, I dont need any more convining that voting ANC is a mistake, i'm so done. They have handed Hlen Zille my vote on a silver platter.

      robert.cerff - 2012-11-12 12:42

      Um... Braindead much @rodney.bevan.58? They're not talking about banning it, but just not making it a public holiday... which is exactly how the "muslim festivals" now work. How far did they get with that one? Well can't remember the last time we had a public holiday for any other religion. I'm just sayin'

      sandra.j.rennie - 2012-11-13 12:05

      @Hugh Influence - have to love and laugh at your post. But by the way we don't mind having the Jewish and Islamic Holidays as well ! Just make them law ! Then we can have Xmas off, Rosh Whatever off, as well as Eid ! So that everyone can be happy and equal !!!!

  • piet.snot.77964 - 2012-11-10 22:26

    Remove June 16 as a public holiday as well while you are about it

      carolyn.dewrance - 2012-11-11 09:05

      Bravo Hugh. love your comment and yes I am smiling.

      abra_kadaver - 2012-11-12 10:09

      Remove all the public holidays as they are just disruptive to productivity and are really just a waste of time. As Hitler told the good people at Auschwitz " work sets you free " and us South Africans should take these wise words to heart. Nothing good ever came from sleeping late or lounging around all day, the government should make Saturday a normal working day and Sunday a half day, and then scrap all public holidays and you will see how this countries economy will grow and grow.

      KevvyW - 2012-11-12 12:29

      @ Hugh -----hehehehehehehehehehehehe Ihad a gud laugh...Tx mate

  • Errol Mathebula Wakhindlimuka - 2012-11-10 22:29

    i can't believe this real ,they remove christmas n Good Friday to put Mandela day so pathetic xo God help RSA

      KevvyW - 2012-11-12 11:07

      @ Atheitis - That is the power of free will. Which you don't believe in right ? ?

      eddy.deepfield - 2012-11-12 17:46

      South Africa is a secular state, therefore there should be NO official religious holidays. Christians, Jews, Hindus and Muslims can celebrate their own holy days on their own. Christians can apply for leave and indulge there own imbecility, just like the other superstitious people have to do.

  • hulisani.dimanashango - 2012-11-10 22:32

    its a blindly heden move to scrap christmas and good friday from the calendar.as stats showed that majority of the population in this country is of christian religion...if anybody feels that their religions holidays needs recognotion one must follow proper protocol and apply to relevant departments and leave christianity alone.

      sandra.j.rennie - 2012-11-13 12:08

      Ok Eddy We get your message !

  • sthembiso.jali.50 - 2012-11-10 22:35

    Hand off xmas. Its a good day 2 get drunk in the name of jesus. Hands off...

  • Warren Wepener - 2012-11-10 22:37

    This is ridiculous the ANC must stay away from this idea

      Cuteandbronzed - 2012-11-11 00:32

      What is is with white people and the ANC..this is about goverment..like stop bemaoning the ANC

      harley.mills.129 - 2012-11-11 10:10

      @Blackyoungandangry instead of being Blackyoungandangry how about being BlackyoungandProductive. I'm sure you will not be so angry then. LOL

      maria.roth.589 - 2012-11-11 22:25

      Blackyoungandangry why are you angry and at who are you angry? Why should we not criticize the ANC? Their administration is hardly efficient. So why all the nit picking about public holidays I am sure the abolishing of Christmas and Good Friday won't improve productivity in the country but it might cost them more votes than they can afford. They have introduced so many extra public holidays that they appear quite as foolish as we think them to be. The bulk of the country is Christian and other religions observe their holidays and so will we and when +- 80% of the population stay away from work it will make their mass actions seem silly by comparison. So why not just leave things as they are.

  • tolo.maano - 2012-11-10 22:41

    Please naledi hands-off our Christmas ...I thnk is time to accept JESUS CHRIST....we knw u sold ur souls to ur father...so leave our gud Friday so we may celebrate Christ death with peace...last time u guys dedicate south Africa to ur ancestor now this...-illuminate in disguise here..!!! O batla malema fela...

      somikazi.pita - 2012-11-11 00:29

      But is Jesus not a jewish ancestor?

      cindy.dunn.9 - 2012-11-11 02:06

      Somi u fool jesus was the one to unite all nations........ Its soo sad to see this..... The end is near...... Hence zuma n zumaville go read revelations if I u don't believe me. Don't do it for me chomma do it for u

      Bob.Cee123 - 2012-11-11 18:32

      If I'm not mistaken, Jesus is quoted in bible as having said he only came to save the 'lost sheep of Israel'

      KevvyW - 2012-11-12 12:22

      Well, actually all religions, following the jewish pattern, should not even be bothered because They all believe in Jesus, right ? So that why my claim, this is not about secularism, but an attack on the Christian faith....

  • thabang.mokoena.7 - 2012-11-10 22:43

    who cares whether we have christimas and goodfriday or not......infact they must scrap it out, too many holidays that have no relevance

      stanton.clarke - 2012-11-10 22:54

      Yep, like youth day and womens day and braai day and ....

      elsie.palmer.90 - 2012-11-10 23:30

      @thabang Then they must scrap workers day,, 16 june,, woman's day,, 16 December or do they want to replace the holidays with other name such as glory to zuma day Malema day. The holidays must be left as it is. LEAVE THE HOLIDAYS AS IS..

  • thabo.mkokeli - 2012-11-10 22:43

    hands off or you will be burnd.

  • stanton.clarke - 2012-11-10 22:44

    Wherever Ive worked, Muslims, Jews and others have always received free days off to celebrate major religious holidays, no different with Christmas and Good Friday.

  • Maverick82 - 2012-11-10 22:46

    They can take it away as a public holiday if they want, but I will always celebrate on those 2 days.

      cindy.dunn.9 - 2012-11-11 02:14

      Amen and I can tell you the docs gonna coin it .......... Coz ppl can't afford to lose money and they will not let our GOD down

      maria.roth.589 - 2012-11-11 22:40

      Quite so and so will approximately 80% of the country. Talk about mass action. No work for us on Christmas and Good Friday. Lol.

  • Brilliant Sibisi - 2012-11-10 22:48

    Really! Ma'am, Aren't there any more important matters in the department to attend to?

  • Elaine De la Tour - 2012-11-10 22:51

    No one can/will ever prevent or stop us who accepted Christ as our Lord and saviour the beginning and the end He who died on the cross for our sins from celebrating Christmas or ANY other Christian celebrations!! Take the opportunity while you can and prepare for when He comes. Outrageous and not worthy!!! May God bless you all and come to your senses people.

      sam.ntshangase - 2012-11-10 23:14

      As christian myself this isn't ti stop the christianity but to stop bias/imbalance

      somikazi.pita - 2012-11-11 00:40

      No one's stopping you.

      phil.losopher.3 - 2012-11-12 06:30

      Jesus! Elaine. Tone it down gal. That imaginary friend in your head is stronger and louder than you.

      KevvyW - 2012-11-12 11:20

      @ Sam, what u mean by bias ? I will tell you. Most ppl in SA did not want the abortion act to go through, but it did. Most SA wants the death penalty to come back, but it won't. Most SA are on paper " CHRISTIANS" in SA. So what does bias means ? It means that christian will be persecuted wherever they are. This is what bias means. No other religion, because of it's beliefs has gone through what the christian faith has gone through. We will endure and fight....Not for self, but for what we believe in...as a majority....You want me to pray 5 times just not to be bias ? You want me to call up dead people, just for the sake of not being bias? ? No No. We will unseat this government, if that is what it is asking for......

  • zwelethu.sabasaba - 2012-11-10 22:52

    Removing Christ-mass day as a public holiday doesn't mean they'll stop people from celebrating it- why stress Christians?

      erena.slabbert - 2012-11-12 11:11

      Ok youth day - just for drunks scratch it

      KevvyW - 2012-11-12 11:25

      @ zwelethu - Removing christ mass day wont happen...Not now not ever....Hope this government, wakes up to reality....Naledi Pandor - Needs a rest...She's tired..

  • sello.r.molefe - 2012-11-10 22:56

    In this country we bhaving like there are no pressin issues. Am not sure if we realy need to march for such frivolous issues..

      rodney.bevan.58 - 2012-11-11 02:29

      sello, it's called the "thin end of the wedge". They start with something fairly innocuous, next thing you know they are dictating what you can watch on TV (ala NP), what you can wear, what you can read, where you can congregate.

  • makarapakaplan - 2012-11-10 23:00

    Let them remove it then those who aren't Christian can't free load anymore and have an excuse not to go to work!

      maria.roth.589 - 2012-11-11 22:46

      Do you believe that? No I think you will find 90% of the population will claim to be Christian so they can have the days off.

  • giancarlo.groenewald - 2012-11-10 23:07

    Cam we stop wasting money just to inquirer about scrapping holidays. My word Home Affairs why don't you work on speeding up your paper work or something constructive.

  • sam.ntshangase - 2012-11-10 23:07

    Keneth Moshoe is attracting unnecessary attention,removing the holiday isn't banning the christian religion,he can celebrate the day as much as he likes,considering SA as diverse society we don't need this holiday its nt fair with other faiths

      Mbavhalelo - 2012-11-10 23:14

      Tell that 2 bishop Dr B Lekganyane, he will never agree with dat nonsence seing he has close 2 10million followers who go 2 a pilgrimage lol

      sam.ntshangase - 2012-11-10 23:21

      @mbavhalelo,you don't understant or you re dull by nature,no one will stop zcc to moria,his ppl will take leaves n go just like muslims

      rodney.bevan.58 - 2012-11-11 02:33

      sam, what you don't understand is this is a Christian country, therefore Christian people have the democratic right to decide which holidays are official. 80% of the population describe themselves as Christian, christians want Easter and Christmas as official holidays, if you don't like it, then persuade the majority of the population to change religion or drop it totally, in the meantime, accept the majority.

      mike.down.5492 - 2012-11-11 13:17

      Rodney what you don't understand is that this country is a constitutional democracy and using your logic makes khethu's point valid, you can't have your cake and eat it!

      maria.roth.589 - 2012-11-11 22:57

      What is not fair to other faiths? They are allowed to have their holidays and they take them. However when +_80% of the population stays away from works on those days who will run the country? Diverse or not we are not so diverse that we have sufficient people to man all stations. Practicality demands that the holidays should remain. So stop paying lip service to the fools and think.

  • crracker.crackerr - 2012-11-10 23:09

    It serves no practical purpose to abolish our traditional holidays. One can only ascribe the motive for even contemplating it as spitefulness. But now we come to the blatant hypocrisy of Reverend Kenneth Meshoe and those he represents. According to reports the protest would also have been against the legalising of dagga. They expect others not to interfere with their beliefs and traditions but in the same breath they try to impose their sentiments and beliefs on others. C'mon! Grant others their habits and customs too!

  • hannelize.lombard - 2012-11-10 23:13

    Removing Christmas and Easter is not going to stop me from celebrating it. Personally I would welcome the idea. Then we can go back to what the days are really about instead of the money-making farce it has become.

      khethu.ndlovu.3 - 2012-11-11 06:16

      I must agree with you

      rodney.bevan.58 - 2012-11-11 12:46

      Doesn't work like that, Halloween is not an official holiday and yet look at the millions spent to celebrate it, same goes for Guy Fawkes night in the UK, not an official holiday but millions are spent on fireworks etc.

  • thabo.mkokeli - 2012-11-10 23:18

    y remove it nw aftr so mny years thts nt fair.

  • john.morreira.9 - 2012-11-10 23:19

    BAH HUMBUG !

  • nel.westhuizen - 2012-11-10 23:20

    Does Santa know about this?

      sibongile.m.mbatha - 2012-11-11 03:29

      I dnt his dwarfs wil b happy either lol

      nel.westhuizen - 2012-11-11 06:29

      Sibs...it's elves...not dwarfs... I won't tell Santa about this, so you will get a lot of pressies this year. :)

  • john.morreira.9 - 2012-11-10 23:22

    She should change her name to The Grinch.

  • Mbavhalelo - 2012-11-10 23:22

    K fine remove christmas and goodfriday, but b4 u do dat remove halaal on all food products cos we are not all muslims for instance, thank u

      marie.webster.12 - 2012-11-11 00:33

      Well said.

      diran.pillay - 2012-11-11 07:54

      The government does not tell Checkers or Pick n Pay to put halal on the packaging lol

      mike.down.5492 - 2012-11-11 13:22

      ah vindictive attitude Mbavhalelo..attack Muslims now as a deflection.

  • Mbavhalelo - 2012-11-10 23:30

    Bolton barry are u ok? Who is talking abt votes, we are talking abt chrismas and goodfriday, not ur hate 4 de ANC

  • tommy.rinrin - 2012-11-10 23:47

    this is extremely unnecessary to me ...

  • mammudi.makgaleng.3 - 2012-11-11 00:10

    Why can't we think out of the box for a while?? We have holidays that are less important on the calendar, Days like heritage day and day of reconciliation. Why can't we say people of other religions come forth and state their important days worth celebrations like Christmas and Good friday only two days allowed, then they be put on the calendar and substitute the above mentioned less important holidays than take out Christmas and Good friday. Then by that there will be balance. We don't have to fight for silly things but had to look at alternatives to accommodate one another. With this spirit we can go forward.

      somikazi.pita - 2012-11-11 00:35

      Uyahlanya if you think heritage day is less important! We all have heritage but we not all christians.

      irvin.mkhari - 2012-11-11 01:08

      is better we substitute good Friday and Christmas day with traditional holidays

  • richardnealejohn.underwood - 2012-11-11 00:21

    @ zwelewethu , December 25 th was Saturnalia a celebration of the sun god tammuz, therefore not a christian celebration. Jesus was a JEW they never celebrated birthdays . The Roman emperor Constantine a pagan , unbanned the Christians and put himself at the head of the christian church . He or his followers then told all the Romans that they had in actual fact been celebrating Jesus birthday and made up all the other false stuff that the churches believe in . The Roman Empire was then trough that changed from pagan to christian within 28 years.

  • sosana.aneli - 2012-11-11 00:22

    Amandla Christmas and good Friday Amandla

  • Thabisoul Motsome - 2012-11-11 00:37

    Glory to the Father, to the Son and the Holy spirit. ..

      phathiswa.madyosi - 2012-11-11 07:50

      Amen

  • jacques.tarica - 2012-11-11 00:37

    Whatever happened to "majority rules"? Or has it become selective picking? I say leave it as it is and let each religion help out in essential services whilst other religions celebrate their holidays. If I recall, Moslems and Jews already do that over Christmas time.

  • louis.hager.12 - 2012-11-11 00:52

    The government can't afford to take away the VAT-revenue from X-mas and Easter.

      cindy.dunn.9 - 2012-11-11 01:48

      Christmas and easter is not just about spending money.......

      louis.hager.12 - 2012-11-11 06:36

      Wow Cindy realy? I never would have guessed. Thanx for inlighting me. So what is X-mas then? Is it an Apartheid holliday?

      crracker.crackerr - 2012-11-11 13:07

      The economy can't afford it. Good point!

  • irvin.mkhari - 2012-11-11 01:39

    South Africa is a country that have different PEOPLE who came from different societies,PEOPLE are dying nowadays because we neglect tradition.we want t be western in this culture we never benefited except for scientific disease that are created each day.

  • cindy.dunn.9 - 2012-11-11 01:46

    Christmas and good friday is celebrated by the world....... So what they are saying is they are GODS???? I see much sadness and bloodshed shed coming. Coz I will never die for a government.... U just a bloody selfish man...... But I will be a martyr for GOD. What u going to try next taking our children as ur slaves SA wake up and fight

      charmaine.paterson1 - 2012-11-11 07:29

      About a third of the world's population are Christians and celebrate Christmas, presumably. Some of us just climb on the bandwagon because it's a good excuse to eat, drink and be merry.

  • christopher.blackwell.96 - 2012-11-11 02:07

    Why does Christianity need government backing for two of their holy days? Name me any other religious that gets government backing as an official holiday. Government should stay out of religion and religion should stay our of government.

      Maera.Dogstar - 2012-11-11 03:03

      I totally agree with you, Christopher. It has been statistically proven that whenever and wherever there was a mingling of state and religion, everything fell apart in that country. When ever will people start relising the truth of this?!\r\nBlessed be to you... Antoinette

      J.Stephen.Whiteley - 2012-11-11 06:21

      Amen. I do not need State patronage for my faith. As to the possible times of the year for the birth and crucifixion of Jesus, see Barbara Thiering, Jesus The Man; Unlocking the Bible, David Pawson.

  • stephanie.sutherland41 - 2012-11-11 03:00

    It is against the law to with hold religious hollidays. Companies have to allow Muslims to attend religious festivities, thus the country would have to allow the same for all religions. They are testing the water to try and shift South Africa from a Christian country. Be very careful of what you let slide concerning this from hear on out.

  • michael.rooyen.1 - 2012-11-11 03:08

    Why are retards allowed in government? Only in South africa are idiots allowed to have any say on how the country is run. So bluddy what if other eligions do not celebrate christmas, they still have a day or 2 off from work. What they complaining about? Thw WORLD celebrates it! My dog runs the yard better than the government runs this country!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Moses Ali - 2012-11-11 03:22

    dream on brother. halaal is here to stay.

      J.Stephen.Whiteley - 2012-11-11 06:27

      Why do Islams take off Christmas and Easter holidays? Christians do not take time off for Eid or Ramadan. Kathy

  • tshepisot - 2012-11-11 03:28

    Its about time,scrap it from the Calender.

      durell.dunn - 2012-11-12 08:05

      How about freedom day is scrapped from the calender. How would all " Freedom and Revolutionary fighters feel " The fact of the matter is that these holidays have significant values...

  • Shane Prins - 2012-11-11 03:47

    are these protesting xtians dumb or what? who said anything about banning xmas? the only thing under discussion is whether or not these days should be national holidays. if you want to celebrate xmas and easter, no matter how stupid the reasoning behind celebrating these pagan inspired days, take a day off work like other stupid religions do.

  • boitumelo.matshediso.98 - 2012-11-11 03:55

    I dont't believe that they are even debating this issue.This is a christian country so hands off this holidays.whoever does'nt like it must pack his/her staff and go back to where he/she belongs.I think now we a becoming to accomodating.We allow them freedom to excercise their own religion in our country,now they question why only our holiday is recognised?.Its time they realise that a visitor can't enjoy the same rights as the owner.so back off julle.

      Shane Prins - 2012-11-11 04:01

      who are 'they'? most people from other religions were born in this country, just bcos you believe in this xtian nonsense doesn't give you the right to tell sa citizens to leave the country. you dont decide what gets debated, this is a constitutional democracy, we debate what we like. if you dont like it, maybe YOU should leave the country. and BTW, only the issue of having these days as public holidays are being debated, no one said anything about banning the celebration of these formerly pagan holy days.

  • tolene - 2012-11-11 04:01

    Perhaps they should be made aware that these holidays are not from apartheid government but a world wide thing. SA has more public holidays than should be legal, so why not get rid of some of those before trying to change ancient traditional holidays. Honestly this government is a joke.

  • EricksonTL - 2012-11-11 04:39

    Take away Youth Day Ms. Pandor. The things the youth protested for - a decent education, and a chance for a future, have been destroyed by your corrupt party anyway. Aside from which, you utter twit, do you realise that many retailers depend on the festive season sales to keep afloat the rest of the year? Is the ANC BENT on destroying the South African economy, or are they just too dumb to find their own behinds with both hands and a map?

  • rowlandkc - 2012-11-11 04:47

    So when debating the public holidays in the early 90's, one mp put forward that a portion of the public holidays should be fixed and the others flexible - so say 6 days that we all must take and 6 days that we choose to take when it suits us - its really not the worst idea!

      EricksonTL - 2012-11-11 06:15

      Logic does not live here. Why bother?

  • sibusiso.s.ndaba - 2012-11-11 04:54

    Uyagula lo gogo,she fails in every department she's in fire from the govt.

      Clive Silaule - 2012-11-11 05:56

      i think Minister Naledi Panando is operating in the Darkness she needs a deliverance a strong one how can she choose only the Holly days? what abt youth day

  • michael.jackwood - 2012-11-11 04:55

    Hand bag, i cant agree with you more, i dont see why we need to celebrate youth day anymore! But there should be no worry, if ANC can mess around with Christmas day holiday, that is the day they will be asking voters to choose another government, they cant, and more over, christmas holiday create lots of business opportunities and it is good for the economy of this country!.

  • SteveSingers1967 - 2012-11-11 05:01

    Haha...You got to love the SA government, the only one in the world that's unable to improve or learn from its mistakes...haha, sad but ironically funny.

  • moses.govender.7 - 2012-11-11 05:03

    Lol this is the easiest way for the ANC to lose votes. I cant believe any comrades will ever back this idea. Come to think of it a whole lot of Muslim, Hindu, Jewish and Chinese business men will all go backrupt if the two biggest shopping holidays are removed...so why would they be against it? It just seems that Pandor misses the limelight since she was moved from education and wants some attention...so relax SA these holidays are not going anywhere!!!

      mike.down.5492 - 2012-11-11 13:41

      but they are not removing christmas as a holiday only a public holiday. Who shops on christmas day and on good friday? this will have zero effect on christmas shopping.