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Harmony miners denied access to hostels

2013-01-09 07:17

Johannesburg - More than 500 mineworkers were not allowed into Harmony Gold's Kusasalethu hostels in Carletonville on Tuesday night, a workers' representative said.

"They went out to buy food and when they came back they found that security and police blocked the entrance," Paul Motaung said.

Security guards were only allowing people to leave the hostels and were not letting them back in. He said police were called.

"More than five police vans are here, and when I spoke to them they said they were here for backup."

Some of the workers went to a nearby village to borrow blankets. Motaung said they wanted to camp outside the hostels to support their colleagues who were inside, because they did not know what might happen to them during the night.

Mine closed

Harmony spokesperson Henrika Basterfield said there should be no one at the mine because it was closed.

"All I can say is the mine is closed. Only about 100 people came to the mine two days ago. Transport was arranged for them to go back home."

She said out of that 100 only seven produced their employee numbers when asked to do so. They were given transport back home. The rest refused to show their numbers and were not helped.

She further said workers were told on 21 and 31 December that the mine would be closed.

"Only that little group came after people were notified about the closure."

On Monday, Harmony Gold said it would keep its Kusasalethu mine closed while it considered whether to continue operations there or begin retrenchments. It said it had started a process under section 189 of the Labour Relations Act, which determines procedures to be followed when retrenching workers.

Lawlessness

"Management is of the view that the status quo concerning production and labour strife will remain, as it has exhausted all possible avenues to achieve normal production and cannot find a solution to the current state of lawlessness prevailing," it said in a statement.

In December, more than 1 000 employees staged an underground sit-in at the mine demanding that their fellow employees, who had been suspended, be reinstated.

Comments
  • lownabester - 2013-01-09 07:25

    They were told not to come back, so did they?? They were all send letters, warned well in advance!!!

      frank.kistler.31 - 2013-01-09 07:35

      That my friends....is what u get when u try and induce force.....

      brian.connell.18 - 2013-01-09 08:19

      This is right out of the book: "Atlas Shrugged". In a turn-around to convention, the 'bosses' went on strike and literally "stopped the motor of the world". The book has turned out to be almost prophetic.

      gary.guy.507 - 2013-01-09 09:26

      In the words of the A-Team .."I just love it when a plan comes together".

      amelia.basson - 2013-01-09 10:10

      Feel sorry for those who lost their jobs ... even though they wanted to work!

  • gorden.norman - 2013-01-09 07:29

    Don't worry go ask bra Jullius for a JOB

  • frank.cornelissen.1 - 2013-01-09 07:29

    Good! Close shop and sell to one of the Zoomer clan, take the bucks and run. Let these lawless fools suffer under The Fat One That Doesn't Pay Wages!!

  • judith.p.miller.7 - 2013-01-09 07:30

    What is our great leader doing to get things on track for prosperity? He says nothing about anything. And he has a spokesperson to help him, one paid for by taxpayer....zuma: tell your compatriots to go back to work and behave themselves for the sake of the country and its people

  • bennie.kruger.5 - 2013-01-09 07:32

    Well, Good this is the reward for your Stikes !!! -Go find happyness elsewhere

  • hughhezuze.schalkwyk - 2013-01-09 07:34

    Newton's Third Law: 'For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction. you cant just do as you please and expect no repercussion....

      Montagnes.Bleues - 2013-01-09 08:11

      The false & empty bubble of the SA Racist BBBEE & AA is starting to burst all around South Africa as it burns in more and more places where the young people with GREAT EXPECTATIONS will now only work if they start with a TOP SALARY instead of the normal gaining experience sequence. Follow your leader, make lots of child grants and ensure everyone else collectively pays for them.

      michael.mathebula.71 - 2013-01-09 09:55

      i agree with you 100%, they initiated this and now they must suffer the consequences.

  • marilyn.docherty.9 - 2013-01-09 07:36

    Sell to the Chinese - then they will find out what 'slave labour' is all about!!

  • surfing.sam.9 - 2013-01-09 07:36

    Eish, we not understand, we strike, we want better pay, now we no have job, hoaaw, how does this work? From striking for better pay to no work,, Hoawww, Eish, hoawwww, Eisshhh

  • saamprater.saampraat - 2013-01-09 07:42

    And the Unions are............nowhere. Surprised?

      willem.louw.16 - 2013-01-09 09:07

      Typical

  • kooskanmar - 2013-01-09 07:48

    The self-entitlement well was has run dry. So where are the union leaders now? - drinking from the next well I presume. Major shake ups coming this year in this industry. The gold & platinum mine industry will consolidate (retaliate) aggressively.

  • Lyndatjie - 2013-01-09 07:50

    Give them Juliarse's address and tell them that he will pay them their monthly salary. After all - he was pushing for the strikes the whole time and for nationalisation. So surely the FALLOUT of this irresponsible mouth flapping of his should be HIS to carry?

      sabelo.l.mthembu - 2013-01-09 07:55

      But when people earn peanuts they have a right to have a legal strike and be heard. You clearly don't know much about the minning industry.

      debduplessis - 2013-01-09 08:09

      Sabelo... you clearly do not know much about conditions of employment, skills related to job for which one is compensated. One has no right to be compensated for skills which are not job relevant. Study done to show SA miners particularly at Lonmin, riggers, drillers etc for work done are highest package paid in the world - why do you think external RSA investors are not interested in RSA mining investment. Now unfortunately the lawlessness that prevailed & all warned about is now manifesting in closure ... What you sow you reap, its a sad reality but not surprising! People have no right to dictate & demand - this is a mind set that needs to be done away for the sake of everyone's day to day survival.

      Luke300 - 2013-01-09 08:17

      @ sabelo. You clearly don;t know anything about the economy. No mining = no mon(k)ey.

      gerald.parker.3956 - 2013-01-09 09:08

      Sabelo yes a leagl strike but thiers was an ILLEGAL strike with violence so tough sh?t to the miners

      Lyndatjie - 2013-01-09 11:22

      Ai sabelo - you need to understand basic economics. There is no unlimited supply of money somewhere - everytime somebody demands an increase - it must come from somewhere. Everytime you strike ILLEGALLY and there is no output at the mine - the running costs, replacement of damages done by the striking minders and hiring of extra security MUST come from somewhere. If your running costs outstrip your income costs then you need to scale down.... And THIS is where we are now! Now you need to understand the role of the UNIONS as well... Your Unions go into negotiations with the mine Management and work WITH the balance sheet in order to see just HOW MUCH they can negotiate WITHOUT incurring job losses. Because if they ask for MORE than what the company can pay - then the cost recovery must come from elsewhere... IE Some people will have to be laid off. And it is ALWAYS the casual workers that suffer! Which is why there is a process called a wage negotiations and if the Union sees that they CAN get more money for their people - then they go into a PROTECTED STRIKE. But here people went on a wildcat strike - damaged property and equipment - stopped production dead in its tracks - intimidated people - threatened people - and I'm damn sure people were hurt as well... So this is the result... No job, no money and idiots like you defending without understanding...

  • dlayani.tivani - 2013-01-09 07:55

    Thanks Harmony for closing the Mine ,now take the certificate back to the Government we won't missed u . U want our people to work for a Peanuts . U were abusing our People ! Please go back to Britain peacefuly .we will call Chinesse to come an operate here !

      jj.terblanche - 2013-01-09 08:08

      Yes dlayani.tivani , bring on the Chinese then you will earn less peanuts with 18hr shifts and no overtime, bring it on... You know what they say about the green grass. Suffer he consequences of your actions

      alexander.lombard - 2013-01-09 08:10

      Lol Chinese pay the worst. Heard of a sweat shop? And when Zuma friends do it expect to get nothing. Good luck

      Cza Ziphethe - 2013-01-09 08:16

      Bhuti wam, it's wise to apply some intelligence before you comment. 5000+ people are out of jobs now. Do you know how the Chinese treat their employees? Do you think they'll wanna operate in a country that has laws to protect employees? Again, I beg you to think before you comment.

      Luke300 - 2013-01-09 08:19

      If I read comments like this it is clear to me that the vast majority of our bradas are facking clueless

      gerald.parker.3956 - 2013-01-09 09:14

      Dlayani you want the Chinese to come I agree with you because 1) they will pay the absolute minimum wages 2) No trade unions allowed { check any Chinese market (China City)} Now what do you have to say. Finally your people were never forced to work in the mines, proof where do you work

      charles.robbie - 2013-01-09 09:23

      You want the Chinese? Man are you CLUELESS! I also live in Asia and I tell you that you will get R300 a month if you are educated and NO MORE and a bowl of half cooked rice every day!!!

      gary.guy.507 - 2013-01-09 09:25

      @dlayani - why Chinese? Are you saying there are no black south africans who can run the mine. Let me see, there is that fat nephew of Zuma's ... let him have a shot at it!

      mandy.mans.1 - 2013-01-09 09:45

      Oh you poor fool! First of all the Chinese pay the worst wages, they won't allow unions (such a good thing, look where that got you). Secondly they won't be employing anyone that worked there before due to your past behavour. (Try finding a job anywhere now, after being proven unreliable at best and so fond of violent strikes) thirdly they would propably only employ their own (bye bye job, bye bye money, bye bye housing). You can go and sit in front of those gates till the cows come home, you won't be getting a job. Do you now see what you have done? You've ruined it for everyone! At least then you had money, now you have nothing. You only know want you had, when it's gone. Go cry by your union, if they are still there.

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2013-01-09 10:15

      Dlayani.tivani. I hope your wish come true and the Chinese do take over. You will then find out what it means to have no rights and to work seven days a week while living in a pigsty. Wouldn't that be lovely?.

      marinda.hibberspretorius - 2013-01-09 10:23

      you poor uninformative soul, maybe you should get what you advocate, just don`t say we didn`t warn you

      anakin.skyvader.9 - 2013-01-09 10:43

      And what if the Chinese bring their OWN labor? Then you are still without a JOB. Eish.

      standuhar - 2013-01-09 16:01

      Great idea Dlayani. Chinese will show you what hard labour is all about. You need that here. These people are uneducated and only good for herding goats or digging holes.

      kobus.swart.75 - 2013-01-09 16:42

      The chinese will collect all your 10 year old children to slave away for them. You think you're so clever .... you owe the chinese for your freedom struggle, they're coming for you .... your struggle, TRUE struggle is yet to begin.

  • bob.small.7547 - 2013-01-09 07:59

    This is what happens when unintelligence challenges intelligence...! The net result is that everyone looses in the end!

  • henry.mayumbelo - 2013-01-09 08:04

    The silly part is the people that were inciting the miners are nowhere to be seen. They toyed with people's livelihood for political mileage and the poor miners have to deal with the consequences . Where are the unions?

      Luke300 - 2013-01-09 08:20

      The unions are sitting in their offices making money. Did you really think they are in it for the miners? Wake up

      debduplessis - 2013-01-09 08:28

      Yip --- hard lesson for all! Don't do what the inciters dictate - they not loosing out. Do what is good for one's family & day to day survival. One should logically Stop allowing themselves to be used as political party sheep!

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2013-01-09 10:19

      Henry.mayumbelo. Same thing is happening in the W.P. with the farm workers. They are pawns used by ambitious people, nothing more.

  • Ilze De Kock - 2013-01-09 08:25

    it is sad that ppl who can least afford it are now jobless...unions and politicians are playing uneducated, impressionable ppl like pawns on a gameboard.

      debduplessis - 2013-01-09 08:41

      So true ... they should all read "Animal Farm" by George Orwell - typically the policies that dictating political parties employ & at the end its the sheep that die and no one else once the farm is no more.

  • gary.desousa.5 - 2013-01-09 08:38

    Its democracy at work, there is no guarenteed work,the OWNERS have decided to shut the mine and thats it.

  • kimard - 2013-01-09 08:48

    so why do they want to stay in the hostels if the mine is not operating anymore? good place to squat like everywhere else

  • corrie.botha.7 - 2013-01-09 08:58

    What did these stupit strikers expect thet only listen to a union act unlawful. Its time the people that now is jobless to go toi toi at the unions... I just love this hope other mines follow with this and then only will the working class people see what there leaders realy feels nothing for them...no blaming aparteid and the normal excuses for this one you deserve no sompathy

  • willem.louw.16 - 2013-01-09 09:05

    And so it starts...

  • nathan.g.moss - 2013-01-09 09:05

    Let me get this right. The miners think its ok to stop those who want to work from going to work when they are on strike, but it’s not ok for management to stop the miners from entering their property. I think most people call that Karma. Enjoy sleeping outside and be grateful it’s not winter.

  • breinlekkasie.dodelikegif - 2013-01-09 09:06

    I wonder how long it is going to take government, trade unions and the workers before the penny drops? Clearly the farm workers in the Western Cape aren't reading the newspapers.

  • rose.quaylekatzen - 2013-01-09 09:29

    Will they never learn there are so many people without jobs that would be too happy to work for that salry I say fire the lot and allow the ones who wanna work to get a chance just goes to show what goverment we got no control

  • angelanair3 - 2013-01-09 10:00

    I think Harmny are entitled to do what they want. Workers were warned! You dont threaten companies that gave you a job? Now what will they do? Its about time that people in our country appreciate the jobs they have. There are less employment opportunities now then ever before! I wonder which wy the farms are going to go? Give in or close down? Its sad times indeed!

  • jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2013-01-09 10:11

    Don't expect COSATU to help. They are far too busy trying to get reluctant farm workers to strike in the W.P.

  • cheron.diedericks - 2013-01-09 10:53

    Good for Harmony! Somewhere somehow these people must get the message not to play around with the economy of this country! It is so fragile and the only people that looses are the workers! Rather half a bread than none! The unions are absolutely controlling the people of this country! The problem is that those people that that pays the union do not benefit, but the unions are benefitting from their monies every month while the workers has no income! So who loose and who are benefitting! Cannot believe that they can use poor people to enrich themselves!!!

  • standuhar - 2013-01-09 15:48

    Good one Harmony. Who are the ones in the hostels if they can't produce employee ID's? Maybe other employers should follow Harmony's example and do the same? What is the point of trying to run a business when your workforce can't be relied on and trusted?

  • dan.cooper.9634 - 2013-01-09 20:04

    yes brother comrades, strike , toy toy , burn . Say we will die before we work again for this wage . now you are going to die of hunger brother comrades , but dont worry uncle Juluis and sugerdaddy Zuma will feed your families now

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