Hiker breaks leg fleeing Table Mountain muggers

2011-11-07 13:02

Cape Town - A hiker broke his leg while trying to escape from two muggers between Rhodes Memorial and the Mowbray hiking trail on Table Mountain in Cape Town at the weekend.

Police spokesperson Andre Traut said the 23-year-old man from Rondebosch was walking with two other men between Devil’s Peak and the Rhodes Memorial path when they were accosted by two men on Sunday.

“They were threatened verbally by the men. The hikers ran down the mountain trying to escape the suspects, and one of them fell and was injured.”

The two men, who were not armed, went over to the injured hiker and stole his backpack, a cellphone and money. Another of the hikers stumbled and rolled into bushes, while the third managed to get away.

Two months ago, Claudio Massenz, 26, had to cancel an overseas trip after sustaining serious head injuries in a mugging above Rhodes Memorial. His skull was fractured in the attack.

Table Mountain Safety Action Group spokesperson Andre van Schalkwyk told the Cape Times newspaper on Monday there had been 11 attacks in the Rhodes Memorial area this year. Seven assaults had taken place in the past five months.

“We have had more incidents this year compared with last year, despite the establishment of the safety campaign. We are not winning the war.”

Van Schalkwyk said not enough was being done to warn people who went hiking on the mountain.

“Our main concern is that Table Mountain National Park is not giving us the information about these incidents so that we can warn people about attacks on the mountain,” Van Schalkwyk said.

  • Silver - 2011-11-07 13:08

    3 vs 2 and they ran?

      Roberta - 2011-11-07 13:22

      Exactly my point. Three young guys against 2 unarmed muggers. So why not a few good klaps and they would have run off surely. Something not right there.

      Rob - 2011-11-07 13:34

      @Roberta - Will remember that when it happens to you.

      Ann - 2011-11-07 13:36

      Pretty sad though - we are being asked to vote for Table Mountain as one , of the 7 new wonders of the world. The aim is to encourage tourism, so do we vote with a clear conscience? Crime is such a huge problem around the world and I have to admit that the thought of being a victim of crime deters me from doing quite a few things that would never have come to mind in the past.

      Silver - 2011-11-07 13:37

      @Rob: I'll forgive Roberta if she runs off like a girl.

      camp.j - 2011-11-07 13:45

      Unarmed huh? And when you're being mugged you know the guys are unarmed? Backpack vs pocketknife, we know who'll come off worst. It's human nature to leg it in a situation like this and i'm sure all those who say a good "snot klap" will do it would have run as well.

      rbphiri - 2011-11-07 13:47

      Unforntunately this is a sad case of "Jack and Jill went up the Hill".There has been several reports of muggers between Rhodes Memorial and the Mowbray hiking trail in recents months. Management needs to have an armed tour guide to escort the hikers on the trail. Although it was 3 Vs 2, I believe the 3 men may have assumed that the other two were concealling their weapons. Hikers should pack pepper spray or use a hiking stick to beat the hell out of these criminals. Or use rocks in the surrounding environment to fight back.

      danalexsmith - 2011-11-07 13:55

      I'm impressed that the News24 reporter was at the scene to pat the muggers down and confirm they weren't armed - what splendid journalism.

      Silver - 2011-11-07 14:02

      Actually Camp a backpack makes a pretty good shield as does a jacket. Believe it or not but you can kill someone with a backpack and even a jacket. You can also shield yourself and see if the attacker is armed. Against a gun not much you can do. Pocket knife 3 vs 2... even 2 vs 2... I don’t like running! If you know just a little you would know any object makes a better weapon then your fists even the stuff inside the backpack. Fortunately I’m pretty much always armed (especially when camping and even when I’m hiking) so a fight like that would not have lasted long. I believe you are as much a victim as you want to be. If there was resistance they would NOT be mugging there. They are mugging because they are allowed to mug!

      Christopher - 2011-11-07 14:29

      Spot on Silver. @ Ann: 7 wonders of nature. There are already 7 wonders of the world and nothing new about it.

      Hugh - 2011-11-07 18:40

      @Ann you missed a point. It is a wonder of the world. A wonder that we can walk free with out getting attacked.

      Shannon - 2011-11-08 11:54

      Listen Hi Ho Silver, you retarded cowboy... are you going to take the chance that they are unarmed??? Rather use your intellect and take Camp.J's advice below.

      Silver - 2011-11-08 12:31

      Uhm Shannon, thanks for the smile.

  • camp.j - 2011-11-07 13:08

    Hikers should start arming themselves, fight fire with fire. Shoot a couple of these muggers and we'll take back our mountain

      Shadoz - 2011-11-07 13:28

      I think we need to take the law into our own hands these days. The police are only interested in making money these days.

      Johan - 2011-11-07 14:27

      ...since 1994.. ...crime capital of the world..!! ....the criminals are firmly in control... ..they own the streets...

      kayceechick - 2011-11-07 14:39

      They own the streets... and the mountains...

      JMan - 2011-11-07 15:54

      "Hikers should start arming themselves"...true...but sad...

  • Servaas - 2011-11-07 13:09

    What? Unarmed and you run?? 3 against 2?? You should have beaten the Sh*t out of them.

      tristan.kilian - 2011-11-07 13:26

      I would too. I'm not a criminal hardened thug from Manenberg. There's a vast difference between the type of person hiking on the mountain for leisure and the type that goes all the way up there to mug someone for their cellphone and wallet. The hikers are usually nature loving soft folk who wouldn't hurt a fly. The thugs have most likely done drugs their entire lives, killed a few men just for kicks and would rape their own daughters. I would run. Go ahead call me a girl for that.

      Servaas - 2011-11-07 13:33


      bothahe - 2011-11-07 13:41

      How would they know the guys were unarmed? Anyway... If you have a family, you have to do the responsible thing and try your best to get out without losing your life. The brave thing to do would be to swallow your pride and make sure you are there for your family later.

      alongman - 2011-11-07 14:34

      I am with Tristan on this one. There are have been too many guys bady hurt in these muggings in 2011. I'd run as well ...

      eric.viljoen - 2011-11-07 14:37

      I'm also one of those nature loving soft folk, but I go on the hiking routes with a nice taser.

      Christopher - 2011-11-07 14:38

      lol @ Servaas for 'girl' comment. these guys look for soft targets, thats it. Fight back and reclaim the mountain. Running away and breaking a leg in the process doesn't help either.

      Leon - 2011-11-07 14:51

      To the fighting big mouths Seen the young S.A men with the muscles in Iraq and Afgan crying and peeing in there pants when the popo hits the fan Get the facts and then see if it was worth fighting or running

      Servaas - 2011-11-07 15:00

      @Leon: I have been in Iraq for 2 years, DRC as well as West Africa, Did not pee my pants. Don't talk about something you CLEARLY know nothing of!

      Servaas - 2011-11-07 15:09

      Leon, let me refresh your memory for you!! I am a Special Forces Operator I will go where others fear to go I will do what others cannot do I will face the impossible, and triumph Always I seek neither fame not glory I seek neither medals nor praise I seek only the acknowledgement of my Brother Operators For they alone can judge me And to be counted amongst them is my greatest Honour I will never dishonour my Brothers Or the name of Special Forces I will never turn away from any challenge I will face anything, and succeed Nothing will stop me, save Death And even this will be temporary For my memory will spur my Brothers on I will, at all times Uphold the principles that guide us Duty, Honour and Loyalty The highest code of Morals, Principles and Ethics I will never abandon my post Or turn from my duty No matter the consequences I will always remember my Brothers Who have made the Supreme Sacrifice They will be with me at all times In my thoughts and prayers Their Deeds will not go unrecorded And their Songs will not go unsung Their memory will inspire me Constantly

      Servaas - 2011-11-07 15:10

      I know that wherever I am Whatever the situation I am always in my Brothers’ thoughts and prayers And if ever my need is near me I know that my Brother Operators will always come to my aid Swiftly, regardless of danger or risk To stand by my side and help me And knowing this gives me strength To face anything, anywhere, at any time Resolutely With Courage and Determination For I am proud to say That I stand, counted amongst those few Those brave and elite few Silent and unseen, but ever-present Those who can truly say We fear naught but God For I am a Special Forces Operator

      Servaas - 2011-11-07 15:11

      @Leon: So before you just judge me next time, trust me, they can be thankful they did not try to mug me up there.

      Leon - 2011-11-07 15:20

      Big mouth servaas i've been in Iraq from 2005 till 2010 and at this moment i'm sitting in Afghanistan On the PSD teams we had youngster coming in and with the first IED or contact they were on the plane the next day still with there wet pants on O by the way what is your security back ground in S.A

      Servaas - 2011-11-07 15:31

      @Leon: I am currently in Kenya. You seem like the bigmouth and no, I was not the youngster with his wet pants on the plane, clown. BTW, answer the question on the topic. Would you have ran for 2 muggers? Did our training not stipulate no fear of dying? Or did you forget? Afghanistan?? See at least they have internet there for a change,

      Leon - 2011-11-07 15:36

      o i see well you are 27 years old well that means you were in the S.A army in 2002 the mighty new S.A army Please tell me i'm wrong(maybe with the brits)

      Servaas - 2011-11-07 15:45

      Yes leon, for 2years and I moved elsewhere because the new SA Army is a joke, let's face it and I will not even argue you on that point.

      Leon - 2011-11-07 17:09

      YES Afghanistan got internet and talibans And no i will not run and again look at the facts first its easy to sit on the side and say YES BUT

      Servaas - 2011-11-07 17:12

      I did not run, decided to get out because of my daughter. 5 holes later on different occasions. Enjoy the Taliban, those idiots never give up nor back down, so you might be stuck there for the next 20 years. Good luck

      Leon - 2011-11-07 18:10

      SERVAAS yes good luck to you too and don't loose your passion for SOUTH AFRICA I just love that country and will be back soon to help kicking some butt if needed Together as a nation we can make it work

      Servaas - 2011-11-07 18:15

      @Leon: Surely will!! Let me know when you back, we can do a potjie or braai?

      Pieter - 2011-11-07 18:15

      You laaitjies who didn't fight in a real war like the border war where 1 ton bombs are dropped around you from mig23's.Then come talk sh*t here. So what if you are in Afganistan or Kenya...The Americans already f*%k3d everybody up there. So I don't know what the hell war you fighting.

      Leon - 2011-11-07 18:52

      ai pieterjie ek is nie eers lus om jou te antwoord ten eerste ek is nie n laaatie nie was ook in angola maaar daai oorlog is al jare terug verby maar nie vergete nie het Iraq begin in 2005 tot 2010 en nou afgan en ek kn jou verseker die bomme hier is net so groot soos daai tyd die enigste probleem hier is jy weet nie waar die BOOM vandaan gaan kom nie EN DIE OORLOG IS VER VAN VERBY TANS is daar ongeveer 50 soldate per wat sneuwel wat is dit met die hare dude nog bom skok of surf jy nou

      Servaas - 2011-11-08 09:46

      Pieter: You missed your cue, Beverly Hill Billies are far gone. Just because you drive a truck, sling a shot gun and have a redneck hairstyle does not mean the war has stopped because you are not in it anymore. Run a long now, go shoot a badger or something. Yeeeeeehawww!

      Pieter - 2011-11-08 12:04

      What are you fighting in Kenya..The mosquito's...Your and Leon's stories are nothing compared to mine..I was a Recce in the South African special forces brigade...I used to get so close to the enemy that I could undo their shoe laces without them knowing. I leopard crawled my way in and out of enemy territory on a daily basis.I used to be so well camouflaged that even Google wouldn't have been able to find me. So I still don't know what war you 2 RAMBO's were fighting in Iraq and Afganistan...Maybe the scraps the Americans left you..

  • Ettienne - 2011-11-07 13:16

    3 guys vs 2 unarmed men and they ran like little girls??? WTF?

      Leon - 2011-11-07 13:22

      Jy is veronderstel om vir jou plesier te stap , nie om heeltyd op die uitkyk te wees vir lafhartige aanvallers nie.

      Deon - 2011-11-07 13:40

      I agree with Leon you don't go hiking to pick a fight, but to relax.

  • Kevin - 2011-11-07 13:17

    They should have overpowered them and just thrown them over a cliff. There was 3 of them versus 2. These muggers believe they can fly . Let them show us how

      Servaas - 2011-11-07 13:18

      I Believe I can fly.. I believe I can touch the sky.. LOL

  • Steven - 2011-11-07 13:29

    No sympathy for they lads, 3 vs 2 unarmed blokes and they run like little girls, and two of em fall whilst running away? What a bunch of pu**y's! Would like to know what part of the world they come from, cause no African (any race), that I know, would back down when the numbers favour them, especially vs unarmed muggers. Wish they had met me and my mates, would be a totally diff headline. P.S Really had it with these criminals who want to spoil our mountain. I say, catch one, beat it(yes it), and send it paragliding without the required equipment!!!

      Justin - 2011-11-07 13:36

      How could they have been 100% sure that the muggers were unarmed? The article also states the attack took place between Devils Peak and the Rhodes Memorial Path (Contour path), which happens to be on steep terrain - no wonder 2 of them fell. Its not like they fell on flat gravel... I would have also tried to get away from them.

      Steven - 2011-11-07 13:47

      Fair enough Justice..But mugging 101, would say use most threatening weapon or device to scare your intended target into giving you what you want. Surely if they had a weapon, they would have threatened them with it to start with? Why chance a possible beating from 3 dudes? Just saying though...

      Rob - 2011-11-07 14:19

      Wellcome to the animal kingdom....I prefer to at least pretend that I am civilised. I guess that means that I either take an armed guard, or stay at home!

  • Polok - 2011-11-07 13:32

    seems like a little brokeback mountain(or in this case brokeleg mountain if 3 men run like little girls from 2 unarmed men. Hope the poor chap recovers though...and it also goes to show even on mountains there is crime at every turn in S.A....a little ironic it happened between Devil's Peak...

  • Hendrik - 2011-11-07 13:33

    Now there's a thing! In yesterday's Sunday Times there was an interview with some woman representing the Table Mountain National Park. The journalist/columnist questioned her about the muggings. Her response by and large was "muggings? what muggings", we don't have such a problem on the mountain. It is the press that is distorting the facts.

      Betweenuandme - 2011-11-07 13:44

      Or maybe Table Mountain National Park is lying through their teeth?

  • Ian - 2011-11-07 13:35

    I will be hiking that vicinity in the next few weeks and will be armed - I will shoot the F**kers and leave their carcassess to rot for the scavengers to feed on. What useless law enforcement capabilities we have.

      Steven - 2011-11-07 13:38

      Ian, polluting is bad, make sure you throw your bullet casings in the bin when you done shooting the f*ckers.

      Peter - 2011-11-07 13:45

      Not on Steven. Their blood will polute the ground so badly that nothing will grow there for centuries. Give then a one off lesson as to how to paraglide with out a paraglider.

  • frank.ford7 - 2011-11-07 13:39

    Why warn? Just friggen fix it?!!

  • Sam - 2011-11-07 13:40

    Not armed, two against three woow... what a story

  • jpcronje - 2011-11-07 13:40

    Why inform them, why not stop it from happening?

      Silver - 2011-11-07 13:44

      Was wondering that as well. Something wrong in the Western Cape. Think maybe the liberals are getting too liberal.

  • cpauwels - 2011-11-07 13:40

    Cmon ppl, u dont know why they ran. Dont always assume! Ppl react differently in situations, this does not mean you have to criticise.

  • Ralph - 2011-11-07 13:41

    you are not allowed to hurt muggers or burglars. A man phoned the local radio station this morning and described how he caught a burglar coming out of a neighbours house and worked him over. The burglar is being charged with trespassing and he himself with assault! The mind boggles!

  • Polok - 2011-11-07 13:52

    @cpauwels...yea you are right..people react differently in situations...and so this is how we react to sissies who cannot stand up as men,south african must be British!!!

  • alfredkruger - 2011-11-07 13:59

    Devil’s Peak is a no-go area, you shouldn't hike there. Running away is the best policy - you don't know if they are armed. Just because the 3 guys didn't see a knife, doesn't mean they did not have one. When suddenly ambushed with aggression while hiking - the best option is to get away from the situation. You are immediately in a disadvantage, because you aren't in full aggression mode when attacked.

  • Lana-May - 2011-11-07 14:05

    In times like today with deseases like we have in the world you cant just klap anyone anymore.... Ill rather run...

  • rheinhardt.peens - 2011-11-07 14:08

    Get some undercover cops /security on these routes that are armed and allowed to take the law a step further...really now.

  • damonsb - 2011-11-07 14:19

    Hey, You mugger, I must tell you...what you do unto others comes back to you 7 times., it’s also written in the Bible...What you sow ,you shall reap.

  • jan.botma - 2011-11-07 14:21

    bad form to leave your mates behind hiker no 3.

  • Chris - 2011-11-07 14:28

    Skiet hulle voor die voet hulle is klomp bliksems skiet hulle vrek en los hulle vir die asvoels ag ook weer waar die asvoels sal vrek sodra hulle die gemors eet los hulle daar is die berg dan sal hlle vir hulle eie geraamtes skrik.

  • Andrew Sheppard - 2011-11-07 14:32

    Lucky I wasn't there those oxygen thieves would have got bliksemed!!

  • Cheryl - 2011-11-07 15:24

    i know, lets hunt all suspicious looking bastards on the can be a sport..

  • kerrimg - 2011-11-07 16:24

    if Table Mountain doesnt come the 7th wonder of the world it is because ofthe crime rate there

  • Stephen - 2011-11-07 16:33

    I don't hike in that area unarmed anymore. I carry a rather large knife now, but I wish I had a gun. The one reason why people are mugged up there is because its so secluded and there are no police or witnesses. The one thing that these muggers haven't thought of is the fact that because its so secluded and unpoliced up there, if they try to mugg someone who is willing to shoot or stab first like I am, there wont be any help for them either!

  • Emily - 2011-11-07 16:35

    The answer is to take guns. One needs to shoot one or two or three without bothering to report it to the police and I think that they may get the message.

  • Ralph - 2011-11-07 18:40

    When one goes on a game drive on a game reserve there is always an armed guard. Why? To protect against wild animals. Why not apply the same principal when walking on the mountain. Hire an armed guard with a licence to kill.I'm afraid Table Mountain is a bit "MUGGERED" when it comes to voting it in as one of the seven wonders of the world. It doesn't stand a chance!

  • Bruce - 2011-11-07 18:44

    I would like to see a couple of guys pretending to be your average Hiker except you would be heavily armed and hopefully physically up to the challenge and take the guys by surprise and give them a bit of their own medicine so the word gets out that not every Hiker will run scared and instead the muggers will run scared if not dead already!!

  • Winsome - 2011-11-07 19:09

    They still went to the unfortunate injured man and stole his things! My God these are cold blooded people.

  • Eugene - 2011-11-07 20:15

    I have been on most trails along and around Table Mountain with my cousin.I used to carry my fire arm with me during hikes as well as a large tripod and 35mm camera.I thank God that we were not victums of such a crime because I would not think twice by killing them and dumping there bodies down one of the ravines or gorges.With my cousin being an ex cop and myself with the millitary for two years in 1988-1989,have mercy on there souls.

  • Keith - 2011-11-07 20:30

    "We have had more incidents this year compared with last year, despite the establishment of the safety campaign. We are not winning the war.” Simple answer, get a few "camouflaged rambo's" from the army, as a training exercise to catch these guys. The bad guys will soon leave this area as every tree thereafter might be a rambo.

  • John - 2011-11-07 21:07

    Agree with Silver..But what are the police doing about this?..I remember a similar story last your view point..

  • Epher - 2011-11-07 21:20

    Silver sounds like the A Team all rolled into one!

      Silver - 2011-11-08 10:51

      No Epher I’m not the A-Team. I’m just a regular guy that is maybe frustrated with a little rage from experience on the side. Maybe I’m just a guy who refuses to just roll over and play dead. I must admit what scares me the most is how far can one go or rather is willing to go. Luckily I’m not a criminal, I have moral values, standards and a valued belief system. I should be dead but I’m not.

  • laurence.ata - 2011-11-07 22:09

    it's law enforcement's responsibility to eradicate such crimes, and government's responsibility to boost and empower the police force. So for now, the mountain Pirates got a free rein while they commit crimes as they please, because we a sort of agree to live with this and have to be careful. We should never give-in to this. crime should never be an option, as normal part of life. Most countries deal with crimes as an exception, but here in SA it is the rule. We cannot allow the Mountain Pirates to deprive us from the pleasures of enjoying God's gift named: "nature". i just wonder where Table Mountain will be rated on the 11/11/11 with such stories?

  • Barrie - 2011-11-08 03:59

    Sorry to stray from the topic, but how great that @Leon and @Servaas can go from a heated argument to arranging a potjie date in 10 comment exchanges. So many of these comment threads break down into a political, racial mud slinging match about who hates who more (more often than not, irrespective of the subject of the story). Pretty sure working at somehow finding some common ground can go a long way to sorting out the problems that our many differences present.

  • Maxodin - 2011-11-08 06:32

    while i agree that one goes for walks on the mountain to enjoy one's self I would like to express an opinion. just an opinion. Even when out for a pleasure stroll it's no reason to let your guard down. I believe firmly that it is every citizen's duty to learn to protect themselves from the dangers we face in every day life. I was once amazed as a totally man of the gay persuasion stood up to a Cape flats gangster who tried to rob him. And I mean the man wasn't a butch gay either. (before you say I'm anti gay I'm not, just illustrating a point) the gangster then apologised, said he was only kidding (which he wasn't) and walked away. The point I'm trying to make is that we live in a dangerous country and for that reason I have studied martial arts so if a criminal wants to step to me he better be armed otherwise I'll break his fingers. I have a responsibility to my family to protect them as well. And If the criminal is armed with a knife, guess what.... So am I. Now I'm not suggesting you go and foolishly fight when the person is armed becasue in some circumstances it's better to run. The thing is though people know that table mountain is a high risk area where muggings are concerned so avoid people you don't know and for god's sake don't run down or even up a mountain, you will break a leg. Be vigialent, study some form of self defense and don't get caught off guard.

  • Maxodin - 2011-11-08 07:07

    On a lighter note, here'a little riddle. Let's see who gets it. One Cape flats gangster walks up to another gangster. unarmed and using nothing but an apple (the fruit not a mac) robs the other gangster. How did he do it?

  • Dudleygbu - 2011-11-08 07:14

    no, we are not winning the war.....i very much doubt we ever will with the constant influx of Nigerians into Cape Town.

  • atomasicchio - 2011-11-08 08:19

    Mr van Schalkwyk - why should people be warned about the attacks??? Is that the best you can do? How about doing something about it???? How many attacks does it take for the government to wake up? This makes me so mad!

  • Giles - 2011-11-08 08:44

    Unfortuneltly you don't know what weapons these guys do have and why take the chance attacking these guys when they could pull out a knife and stab you. What a pity, because the walk from Vredehoek to Rhodes Memorial used to be my favourite weekend activity but for the last 2 years I have avoided it because of safety concerns. I think areas. I think areas like this need to be fenced off and you would need something like a Wild Card to get in (like Silvermine has done). It's probably the only way to keep unwanted criminals out. Pity it has come down to this type of thinking.

  • chad.marais - 2011-11-08 09:01

    roberta.keeling - thats a stupid comment - how do you (as the victim) know they're unarmed and dont have a concealed weapon on them at the time of the engagement? I've fought off 3 people trying to steal a cellphone from a female colleague of mine because at first glance they were unarmed - I could have EASILY been stabbed to death in the ensuing fight. In hindsight it was STUPID of me to have intervened and I'll certainly never do it again - take the risk of losing your life over a few measly possessions. Its the ones that think they're 'hardcore' that end up getting killed

  • Hannes - 2011-11-08 09:13

    7 wonders of the world , wonder when you will be robbed .

  • clive.jeepman - 2011-11-08 09:25

    And I suppose it is to much expect of the police to try and apprehend or shoot the crap out these thugs by sending in 2 or 3 Reccies to hike the route a couple of times ! This is the same Table Mountain the want to be Voted in as one of the "Seven New Wonder of the World". All they can see is the revenue that the new status will bring in ! Not Doing Enough to Protect Hikers and Walkers in the Area !

  • adam.leighton - 2011-11-08 09:45

    The problem with this country is... it has bred a generation that expects the government to provide for everything. It is time that SA'cans took the responsibility of their safety into their own hands. When we go hiking, we take tazers, pepper spray, Gas BB Guns with us. We have never had to use them yet, but we have passed many dodgy people on our hikes. Especially between the Block House ( Devils Peak ) through Newlands Forest. Its time people... Stop waiting for the government to make things happen. They are only concerned about getting involved in issues that further their political career. Not a handful of hikers that occasionally get mugged. Seriously!

  • Glenn - 2011-11-08 10:36

    Sorry, but they must have been armed somehow.... maybe a screwdriver, a knife, some sort of weapon. I don't believe 3 people would run away from 2 unarmed muggers.

  • Barbara - 2011-11-08 11:10

    Youre missing the point here guys, 2 or 3 or whatever, it should not happen and definately not on this mountain. So bloody typical of pigs who have nothing else to do!

  • Nico - 2011-12-31 16:44

    Get some karate nuts who need real action practice fun.

  • Johann - 2011-12-31 17:51

    Come on this have nothing to do with crime or drugs but of poor governance of the A N C GOVERMENT period.

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