Hold govt accountable, says Madonsela

2012-03-23 14:43

Johannesburg - The public needs to be more informed about the country's laws and policies, Public Protector Thuli Madonsela has said.

"The role of the people and community leaders is important if a Constitution-based accountability is to be enforced. They need to empower themselves with information on laws, policies and how government works."

Madonsela was delivering the third Griffiths and Victoria Mxenge Memorial Lecture at Nelson Mandela Metropolitan University Law School on Thursday night.

She said when communities were empowered they asked the right questions to the right people via the right channels.

Without this, human - and in particular, socio-economic rights - guaranteed by the Constitution could not be delivered optimally.


Madonsela called on communities to stop public protests and follow the example of Braamfischerville, Johannesburg, residents who recently approached her office with their housing concerns.

"Their approach is more sustainable than public protests."

Protests also negatively affected many aspects of democracy, including the very human rights protesters were defending, she said.

The Mxenges have been recognised for their contribution to the field of law and the sacrifices they made in the fight against apartheid. They were both assassinated by the apartheid regime.

  • Makhosazane - 2012-03-23 14:52

    The only voice of reason in government :)

      Kobus - 2012-03-23 15:27

      Somehow I dont think Zuma likes her all that much ;)

      Poloyatonki - 2012-03-23 16:23

      Kobus.. JZ have 5 women already.

  • Peter - 2012-03-23 14:52

    Then why oh Why, madam Protector, do you so often ignore complaints against the ANC from members of the public based in legislation and the constitution and plead you will not be used for political purposes as defence?

      Peter - 2012-03-23 15:16

      Where have you been?

      Mduduzi - 2012-03-23 15:20

      Yea Peter, where have you been? Texas?

  • Den - 2012-03-23 14:53

    madonsela for president.

  • Deon - 2012-03-23 14:58

    This is a much better way than burning down schools or blocking roads.

      Grant - 2012-03-23 17:36

      But a lot less fun. The end result is the same - nothing changes.

  • usha.hunsraj - 2012-03-23 15:15

    I had lost a lot of confidence in government but truely this has changed because of you, Thuli Madonsela, Public Protector of South Africa. Thank you for doing what is right. I'm also aware that you alone can only do so much.

  • Jeffrey - 2012-03-23 15:25

    we know the principle enshrined in the constitution,sec 198, now the burden lies with the question of who are you to challenge Mathale, Zuma.. Thabo MBheki as a Pres tried to challenge Zuma to be accountable for Arms deal, the situation was termed "politically motivated" by purppets judges and NPAs. incase of Mathale Admin Accounting to their actions, their dept were placed under National Admin.that sucks out big lady, next is you. you be allege to have slept with young men or raping a minor.they will silence you. bravo! keep good work big girl

      Ben - 2012-03-23 20:36

      We surely hope they dont try to silence her, but she will have most of S.A. behind her. Their problem is, if they want to silence her, they will need to change the constitution and that is one thing they will never be able to do.

  • Makua - 2012-03-23 15:47

    the ANC of Zuma has turned into Zanu-PF, where no dissent is tolerated!

  • stevie0064 - 2012-03-23 15:48

    ..."asked the right questions to the right people"... ??? Accountability means losing your job if you're not performing. Cadre deployment throws this out the window. Think again Thuli.

  • Michael - 2012-03-23 15:50

    is there an election coming up???

  • sean.redmond3 - 2012-03-23 16:25

    Hold government accountable. Ok, HOW?? If I complain I am a racist. Try calling any government body and see if you get through.

  • shongwepatrick - 2012-03-23 16:26

    Thanks Adv Thuli Madonsela your department is doing a great job, more especially for the poor, thumbs up mam!

  • Tony Lapson - 2012-03-23 16:52

    She is absolutely right! Proof is in the comment section of News24 articles, where you get some fools who are so devoted to a lost cause, that they make themselves look like imbeciles by just calling everyone racists, talking about ANC's plans to change the constitution as a 'good thing' for the people, and just general ignorance. Learn facts. Stop following like sheep.

  • manyanyaphiri - 2012-03-23 17:28

    I like Madonsela!

  • braamc - 2012-03-23 20:22

    You get what you voted for, bunch of thieves, they feel f%^^5call for the poor, the people

  • maseratifittipaldi - 2012-03-23 20:55

    XXX:Our present system of government makes it almost impossible to hold government to account. The Party system is the main culprit. Remember the recent vote the MP's had to cast in respect of the Secrecy Bill? ANC MP's were basically threatened : "Vote this way...or else...". Party bosses dictate. MP's don't go to their constituencies to obtain a mandate on how to vote on important matters, as they should. They merely follow orders from the Party, in order to hold on to their position and privileges. Their vote has nothing to do with the will of the people. Nothing to do with democracy. Nothing to do with wrong or right. Everything to do with Party greed and megalomania. South Africa can be a leader in modern multicultural national management, but we sit with an archaic Party system which only serves to fragment and diffuse the nation whilst building a materialistic "elite". An "elite" which cannot easily be challenged by the people save for in a destructive scenario such as the Arab Spring. This all under the guise of "democracy". We really should get rid of the self-serving Party system, and implement an expertise (quality) driven system of government which is 100% accountable to the people by principle, design, process and procedure. Thanks for bringing this up, Thuli. You have more fans than you know. PS: Swaziland is now passing legislation which makes it illegal to say anything bad about the Swazi king. Even on the social media like Twitter and Facebook.XXX

      Mart - 2012-03-24 03:56

      What you have said is so true....a mockery is being made of the democratic spirit and principles. This being the situation for the forseeable future it has become a case of 'fire needs to be fought with fire' and the only thing I can suggest is that big business unite and use money and economics to bring down a system that is making the poor poorer, more stupid and more disenfranchised. 'A fake promise means more to a simple poor person than does reality'. A vote from a person who does not know what is done with that vote once he casts it, should not vote in the first place.

      SaintBruce - 2012-03-24 09:53

      The only bit of democracy you can exercise is the day you vote. After that, the 'Party system' works just like Communism! The Elite tells everyone else what to do and spends money like water and there is no valid argument from anyone against them. Who agreed to this crock of SH1T ?? You are correct - there is NO accountability at any level in our Government. So - what is the solution? ECONOMIC POWER - those with money MUST use it to 'vote' with! Good example - the eTolls: Don't buy an eTag Don't use the roads that are tolled Don't try to block the roads - plays into their hands Cripple SANRAL financially THAT 'vote' my friends will send a very strong message to the ANC who model themselves on a communistic socialistic ideal that cannot work. When the economy of Gauteng 'votes' by not being bullied by SANRAL et al, then the people have spoken and then we can call for an investigation into the basement of this eToll deal - I wonder what skeletons are buried there? Graft perhaps? Backhanders perhaps? Nepotism perhaps? Unauthorised expenditure perhaps? Your guess is as good as mine. MAKE THE ELITE CHOKE ON THEIR GRAVY!

  • Dave - 2012-03-23 22:26

    THE QUESTION IS - WHAT HAS THE cANCer Administration done well in the last 17 years? Bearing in mind it was OUR MONEY that they used / stole.

  • siyolise.matyila - 2012-03-26 11:36

    If this lady can have her own political party, I would join in a heartbeat, I respect you madam.

  • david.madisha - 2012-04-18 08:43

    Thumbs up thuli......people who become guilty of corruption,should refund the money that they have stolen from any institution back to treasury and the process of investigating the corruption cases also needs speeed so that we shuldnt loose double on public funds....Thank you Thuli for hard work.

  • devenjoey.theron - 2012-04-18 14:55

    public protests, must be kept as a last resort. the problems people face on a daily basis, need to be addressed lawfully. believe me, people and government react when they see they are the cause of problems. they realize that they must step up their game. lets leave the protests as a last resort to remove government that don't provide. is it not true that we elect those that lead us?

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