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Hostage survivor gets bail over drugs

2012-12-10 12:49

Pretoria - Somali pirate kidnap survivor Debbie Calitz and eight other people appeared on drug-related charges in the Hatfield District Court in Pretoria on Monday.

"This matter is postponed to January 30 at 08:30. It is still under police investigation," Magistrate Kenneth Chauke said.

They were granted bail of R1 000 each.

Calitz, 50, and eight others between the ages of 19 and 29 were arrested at a house in Constantia Park, in Pretoria, on Friday.

Prosecutor Lebo Mokalake said the police received a tip-off about a party, and found hallucinogenic "magic mushrooms" and dagga.

Calitz, Kerri-Anne Cross, Matthew Beukes, Jarryd Lottering, Timothy Lombard, Jason Cross, Nicolas Fourie, Zane Coles, and Donavan Coles each face a charge of possession of drugs.

Calitz and her former long-term partner Bruno Pelizzari were released from captivity in Somalia almost six months ago, after being held for nearly two years.

Calitz recently released a book regarding her kidnap, titled Debbie Calitz: 20 Months in Hostage Hell.

Comments
  • zapadela.tistarocha - 2012-12-10 12:51

    TPT

      squeegee.pilot - 2012-12-10 13:18

      ADS?

      zapadela.tistarocha - 2012-12-10 13:39

      Astrophysics Data System ???

      benny.blazer.7 - 2012-12-10 13:40

      wtf is wrong with cannabis and mushrooms??? go fight some real crime! absolute waste of my tax money!! america is busy legalizing the stuff, and in s.a with the highest crime rates in the world, our police force is wasting their time with absolute nonsense! when is this world going to get its head straight about drugs?? the 'war on drugs' has never ever reduced the amount of drugs on the streets but done the opposite - there are more dirty, harmful black-market drugs then ever

      vark.nek.90 - 2012-12-10 14:05

      I wonder how much the fuzz drank to calm their nerves before the bust?

      zapadela.tistarocha - 2012-12-10 14:09

      Discipline is lacking .................Big time. If recreational drugs are required to exist....There is something seriously wrong with the Individual.

      richard.hipkin - 2012-12-10 15:34

      It's not a case of needing drugs to exist... People like to take drugs.

      WarrenStylin - 2012-12-11 07:06

      @Zap- Drugs have been around since the recorded history of man. The Maya, the oldest known civilization used to lick poison frogs and go on "Trips" for days. Native american's used to "Hot Box" in their Teepee's. Everyone wants to alter their state of mind, be it through drugs, meditation, prayer, excessive gym. All these things are addiction's that in some way alter the body's chemicals for the person doing it. AND WE LIKE IT.

  • kalabafazi - 2012-12-10 12:55

    If Debbie Calitz had never made the news over the Somali hostage story then this story would never had made news. She was probably doing this before she got kidnapped by the Somalis. The only "interesting" question is why a 50 year old woman is partying with 8 people, some half her age. Other than that this is boring news.

      rob.gunning.1 - 2012-12-10 13:09

      Is there a rule that says you may not socailise with those younger than you? I am 32 and have some very good friends twice my age. We spend time together, braai, laugh and have a good time. If anyone thinks that peculiar then I think you have the problem, not me. Peace to you old school!

      antoniette.naylor - 2012-12-10 13:26

      She was with her son and daughter, whats wrong with that. This wouldn't have made any news if Debbie wasn't kidnapped by Pirates. Because she was there does not mean she was on drugs or her children for that matter. Could have been the friends that had the drugs

      kalabafazi - 2012-12-10 13:26

      Rob - I don't think its peculiar at all. I'm just saying thats about the most intersting thing about this story, which on the whole, is pretty boring. Even your comment has made this story more interesting:) Peace out!

      classwar.trotsky - 2012-12-10 13:43

      Good analysis.

      michelle.h.koekemoer - 2012-12-10 13:43

      According to radio report this morning it alleged that the drugs belong to her children and so to answer your question Rob I do think it is in bad tasted to socialise with your children if drugs are part of the socialising!

      rob.gunning.1 - 2012-12-10 13:50

      @kalabafazi. lol. Noted.

      rob.gunning.1 - 2012-12-10 13:51

      @michelle.h.koekemoer - Agreed, however my comment was to do with age difference, not the substance of the social connection

      erich.goosen - 2012-12-10 20:00

      I believe 2 of her co-accused are her children. So much for good parentaling.

  • james.m.turner.35 - 2012-12-10 13:12

    Oh please, been taking shrooms for years man! Go fight real crime!

      jason.mcdonahugh - 2012-12-10 13:17

      So by this comment police should ignore lesser crimes and only target serious offenders?

      konrad.rontgen - 2012-12-10 13:21

      james,is that why you spell mushrooms ,as being "shrooms"

      adrian.tyler - 2012-12-10 13:31

      Haha. I agree. I've never loved nature more

      janice.mcmaster.92 - 2012-12-10 13:32

      konrad, you seem to be a tad uneducated man...

      ThinkingChick - 2012-12-10 13:35

      Cops should do their jobs. Marijuana is illegal here only because of outdated stupid apartheid laws. Shrooms are legal in many places. Just because our govt hasn't woken up to the fact that there are different types of substances does not mean they are right. Also, I would rather cops were hunting down robbers, murderers and rapists.

      MagdaKus - 2012-12-10 13:41

      Konrad- apparently that's what they're referred to in those circles (as I heard on the radio this morning- far be it from me to be an expert on local- or non-local drug culture).

      james.m.turner.35 - 2012-12-10 14:27

      @jason.mcdonahugh: That's not what i'm saying. I'm saying it shouldn't be a crime in the first place. There are other crimes I wouldn't mind, as a tax payer, the police focusing on. Far more pressing than this my friend.

      richard.hipkin - 2012-12-10 15:37

      Oh please man, the woman got arrested for a plant and some fungus. Listen to yourselves!!

  • elsbeth.verhoeven - 2012-12-10 13:25

    This does not make sense. In Holland magic mushrooms and dagga is sold openly in shops and here you only sit in a house using it and get arrested. How does this work? In the cape all the rastas smoke dagga and nothing happens to thsm. So what is different with this one?

      zuma.compound - 2012-12-10 13:38

      She is white therefore an easy target. Remember the SA government did nothing to assist in her rescue either.

      JanGrimbeek - 2012-12-10 13:38

      Uhmmmm @ elsbeth.verhoeven - stupid question, the difference is this is SA and not Holland !!!! next one...... Maybe the rastas were not caught thats why !!!!

      ThinkingChick - 2012-12-10 13:42

      Exactly! Some sanctimonious little turd probably ratted her out. These laws against weed and mushrooms are archaic.

  • ThinkingChick - 2012-12-10 13:28

    Dear haters on drugs. Marijuana is now legal in certain states in America. It is one of the most used substances in the world. Magic mushrooms also do absolutely no harm to anybody. Neither of those substances can even be remotely compared to heroin, cocaine and alcohol.Yet, I bet there's a bunch of you getting all ugly about some weed and shrooms who regularly drink yourselves senseless and then drive a car. And the people who complain about her being with people younger - what is your problem?

      JanGrimbeek - 2012-12-10 13:40

      This is not America this is SA with SA laws, change your name to "NotThinkingChick"

      james.m.turner.35 - 2012-12-10 13:47

      @FedupTaxpayer: Yes, Weed does lead to harder drugs. things like Tartrazine and soft drinks laden with high fructose corn syrup.............

      ThinkingChick - 2012-12-10 13:47

      @ tax Marijuana is not a gateway drug. That's rubbish. I smoked it as a teen. Stopped for ages, still smoke occasionally. It is impossible to become addicted to weed. The ones who have a problem will have a problem with any substance. If you mean teenagers - no. Weed is not the problem. It's stupid friends who create peer pressure to try something else. I have never seen anybody's life destroyed by pot. Ever.

      ThinkingChick - 2012-12-10 13:49

      @ Jan - the laws against marijuana are an apartheid relic. If it were legal to grow, imagine the money we could make exporting it. Are other apartheid laws things you embrace? I don't. And saying I'm dumb - well, hey - guess what buddy - you are. You sound like a keyboard christian afrikaaner who would probably still like to see stars on nipples and get rid of the internet.

      johan.mostert.967 - 2012-12-10 14:00

      ThinkingChick is clearly stuck on Apartheid although I can guarantee she is still a snot nose kid. Next she'll pull the race card.

      ThinkingChick - 2012-12-10 14:16

      A snot nosed kid? hahahahahha. I didn't even grow up in this country. I have two degrees and a fabulous job. Assumptions huh? Race card? Oh please, unlike South Africans, where I was raised race had nothing to do with anything.

      msika.gama.5 - 2012-12-10 14:28

      I think ThinkingChick is high right now.

      ThinkingChick - 2012-12-10 14:34

      You know what, Msika, if you want to actually understand, really understand different drugs and what they are all about go to www.erowid.com. Saying I am high right now is absurd - what you are, though, is small-minded.

      richard.hipkin - 2012-12-10 15:39

      I did grow up here and I support everything ThinkinChick is saying, just because the rest of you are hopelessly ignorant.

      james.m.turner.35 - 2012-12-10 16:09

      @ThinkingChick: I love that site yo. Many happy hours spent.

      Cherine Kruger - 2012-12-11 02:39

      ThinkingChick: I absolutely love and agree with everything u are saying! Most responding are just ignorant and have been tainted by education and the media. I know SO MANY successful ppl who randomly does do weed, yet look at where they are! So unless smart ppl reacts differently to weed than 'not so smart' ppl, I refuse to believe that weed is anything more than something that relaxes, gives a good feeling, a high amount of munchies, peaceful sleep and more. I use it randomly, and I have mild insomnia, it makes me fall asleep like a baby! I don't always want to drink sleeping pills. Soooo anyways, if ur smoking weed and it became a 'gateway drug' I would suggest looking at all the reasons WHY. Maybe the person was pressured or a gun held to their head. Other than that, everyone elses argument is INVALID! Put that in ur pipe and smoke it

  • chris.lategan - 2012-12-10 13:31

    These people have hurt no one. Let them go and fight some real crime! Coward cops bullying harmless people. Sickening! Go arrest the rapists, murderers and thieves! This is waste of time and money!

  • flyswat - 2012-12-10 13:34

    After being through the ordeal she has, wouldn't you also want to "escape" some thoughts in your head? Bets it works better than any sort of psychotherapy and legal psyche drugs anyway. Sheesh, people, how about you go get kidnapped then?

      ThinkingChick - 2012-12-10 13:38

      Yeah - maybe. I also have no issue with her doing it just for fun. I mean come on... Who has she hurt? It's her body.

  • gareth.coats - 2012-12-10 13:36

    This is a very different set of charges from what was reported earlier. The previous report was written in a way that lead me to believe she was arrested for growing and dealing these drugs. Now it's possession. still a crime, but less anti-social than dealing in my book.

  • msika.gama.5 - 2012-12-10 13:49

    Just a lousy 1000 grand for drugs???

      ThinkingChick - 2012-12-10 13:58

      We are not talking about crack, meth, cocaine, heroin etc. We are talking about marijuana and magic mushrooms. Harmless drugs.

      flyswat - 2012-12-10 15:17

      I hardly see how possession of shrooms can be illegal. The dealing of shrooms and mycelium maybe, but possession? I'm sure most of us have some in our own gardens and don't even know! Is possession of Olieboom seed also illegal?

  • mack.myburgh - 2012-12-10 14:02

    Read the YOU magazine ,look at this woman in the face and ? You are not surprised ! I do think that she is stupid though but plain RAW !

      ThinkingChick - 2012-12-10 14:21

      Ah, so you are one of those classists. Fabulous. Have to feel superior to someone right?

  • phae.rayden - 2012-12-10 14:04

    When will the laws change? How can plants be illegal, its madness! There are hallucinogenic plants that are perfectly legal in SA. When will people wake up? Some synthesised drugs can be very bad news and are another story completely. It is impossible to become addicted to shrooms, the more you take the less effect there is. We need to educate ourselves, and stop with the knee jerk reactions to a subject that we and our kids have been brainwashed with for decades. After every drug talk my kids were given in school, I spent as long undoing the cr@p they were exposed to, as most of them are less addictive and destructive than alcohol and cigarettes. None of us drink, smoke or do any drugs, go figure.

      zapadela.tistarocha - 2012-12-10 14:18

      ""How can plants be illegal, its madness"" Opium is derived from the Poppy plant. Cocaine from the CoCa leaves. Many many more example Most drugs are derived from Nature. New drugs such as Ice etc, utilize pseudoephedrine...these are manmade drugs utilized by many for recreation.

      ThinkingChick - 2012-12-10 14:20

      The two legal drugs - cigarettes and alcohol are infinitely more harmful than weed and shrooms. Ask anyone who grew up in an alcoholic family. I too have teenage daughters - neither of them smoke, drink or drug. I have suspicions the eldest might be smoking pot from time to time, but she gets straight As and is not at all a problem kid.

      zapadela.tistarocha - 2012-12-10 14:26

      ALCOHOL is the largest destroyer of Families on thios Planet...Why is this legal,,,,Cos governments are able to increase their tax base due to it's sale. The difficulty in understanding Governments is that the products of Alcoholism costs the country and it's Victims ten times more than the tax collected.

      zapadela.tistarocha - 2012-12-10 14:28

      Hey I'm no prude....Harvard had some of the best Indoor Indica and Sativa growers, however after that stage of my life was over , I had the discipline to leave it in the Past.

      ThinkingChick - 2012-12-10 14:29

      @ Zap: You cannot go out and eat a poppy field and get high. It required a serious amount of synthesising to get heroin. Cocaine may be from coca leaves, but actually, just eating the leaves is pretty much like drinking coffee. Let's add some other plant based drugs - did you know that moonflowers are hugely hallucinogenic? Don't see people getting arrested for those. Another one is a thing called salvia - it's a herb you can buy at any garden store. Then there is a thing called DMT. That is made from plants - in fact every single plant (including the grass you walk on) has it in. DMT is the most hallucinogenic drug you can take. See the problem here? Surely people should be able to decide for themselves what they put in their own bodies?

      zapadela.tistarocha - 2012-12-10 14:45

      Easy to produce opium from Poppies. It is illegal to have poppies in your garden in NZ. People can not decide ....look at the greedy B***rds now . You give to much credit to the Human race....We are our own worst enemy and a serious case of Thrush to Mother Earth. I am sure she can't wait for a new lifeform to possess this Planet. Recreational Drugs are wrong for the general public. You seem disciplined enough howver you are an exception rather than the rule.

      phae.rayden - 2012-12-10 15:07

      Hi zapadela.tistarocha, re opium and cocoa, they have to be synthesised to be utilised, shrooms and dope, as they come. Not sure you understand what my point is. We have been duped by our education system and governments into accepting redundant information, thereby allowing the making of criminals of people for no good reason. I still maintain it is crazy to make a plant illegal. Ditto Thinking Chick, as you say DMT is everywhere, we should be teaching our kids to continuously update their perspectives as information becomes available, to become thinkers not sheep.

      zapadela.tistarocha - 2012-12-10 15:17

      Stand on fabricated podiums' advocating recreational drugs are OK. Please Please....It is not..... I will continue with my prerogatives/principals in life as this Democracy allows you,your point of view (Even though it is illegal)

  • markgrpaxton - 2012-12-10 15:06

    Legalize it! One Love!

  • annie.israel.50 - 2012-12-10 16:27

    I have cancer and got a prescription for it - I am better and it has been over 2 months that i have not used cannabis - I do not live in SA and have no idea if a person has cancer a prescription is obtainable from a doctor - can anybody inform me if that is possible

  • sifiso.sosibo.10 - 2012-12-10 16:33

    If this turn up to be the truth I believe those kids she was suppose to be a mother figure would've been better off if pirates kept her a little bit longer in Somalia. This is how she thank people who went through an extra mile trying to secure her release!

  • WarrenStylin - 2012-12-11 07:12

    The debate about Marijuana. A couple of questions. How many people have overdosed on MJ in the past 10 years? How many people have OD'd on alcohol in the past year? They say MJ is a gateway drug, but my assumption is that everyone that tries MJ, has first tried smoking tabacco or drinking first. So wouldn't that make tabacco and booze the gateway drugs (They are legal)?

  • RidiculousNicholas - 2012-12-11 10:56

    There is no denying the fact that they broke the law and must suffer the consequences. However, there needs to be a distinction between "hard" drugs, such as heroine, tik, etc., and "soft" drugs such as marijuana. Arresting a "pot head" and sending them to jail only aggravates the problem as they do not deserve to be classed with hardened criminals such as rapists and murderers. In reality drug addicts are people in desperate need of guidance and support, by sending them to jail you are effectively turning them into hardened criminals. Let’s be honest, no one survives South African prison without becoming a hardened criminal so by sending drug addicts to prison we are not only wasting tax payers money, we are creating hardened criminals. The sooner people get over this stigma of drug addiction being a crime the better. We also need to acknowledge the fact that most leading governments in the world are gradually re-assessing their outlook on recreational drugs and decriminalizing drugs such as marijuana simply because they realize that these drugs are no worse than alcohol and cigarettes and the cost of enforcing laws regarding these drugs are simply a waste of time and money.

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