IFP: Difficult to trust cops after shooting

2012-10-16 20:21

Johannesburg - It is difficult to trust police deployed in KwaMashu after the killing of an Inkatha Freedom Party (IFP) member outside court, the party said on Tuesday.

"The minister of police [Nathi Mthethwa] should deploy police from other provinces to keep calm in areas of political violence in KwaZulu-Natal, clearly police from the province cannot be trusted," said spokesperson Albert Mncwango.

He said the IFP was shocked and disgusted by the police who were present when its member Siya Dlamini was shot dead outside the Ntuzuma Magistrate's Court on Monday.

He said police watched the drama unfold without doing anything while they were deployed there because of the volatile political situation.

"Our SA Police Service's behaviour is disappointing and proof that they cannot be trusted if a person can be killed like that in front of them."

He alleged that a National Freedom Party (NFP) member produced a gun while police were watching and fired two shots without them "raising a brow'.

"In other countries something like this would have not happened in the presence of the police.

"They would have not watched a person being shot at and killed in front of them.

"The police would have taken drastic steps to save that life and secure the safety of all the people present.

"But with our South African police anything as shocking as yesterday's killing is possible."

He said the party was also shocked by NFP leader Zanele Magwaza-Msibi's reaction to this incident.

"Instead of condemning her people who are targeting and killing IFP members, she rather asked for deployment of soldiers to the hostels."

National Freedom Party (NFP) spokesperson  Nhlanhla Khubisa condemned the killings.

"The NFP abhors violence and condemns political killings. We condemn violence and we ask the KwaZulu-Natal police commissioner and the MEC for public safety... to deploy more police into KwaMashu."

Government said on Tuesday it was shocked by the shooting, and condemned the use of violence in solving conflicts.

"This incident is highly regrettable especially in a democratic country. Government conveys its deepest condolences to the family and friends of the deceased," acting government spokesperson Phumla Williams said in a statement.

"Political parties and the public in general are encouraged to engage in dialogue to resolve differences and to uphold the laws of the country."

The man accused of shooting dead the IFP supporter outside the Ntuzuma Magistrate's Court was expected to appear in the same court facing murder charges on Wednesday.

  • Cameron - 2012-10-16 20:36

    Another policeman attacked today with a panga....PLs tell me what the police are meant to do?!??!

      lsfreak - 2012-10-16 20:59

      And... Don't our cops watch telie. I mean the Greeks are striking yet the cops pitch up with shields and helmets to disperse them, it's called riot gear, wait I saw some Hmm but where... I remember at that great waist of money "The 2010 World Cup". I saw them in the stadium looking great for the press. What was the "police ment to do" grab thier guns and shot the man with the gun... Wait for that too happen the SAPS have to be able to see their guns but under the rolls most can't....

      lacrimose.wolf - 2012-10-16 21:54

      @Isfreak - there's only enough riot gear to go around for about 1/3 of metropolitan police (being ONE THIRD of the police of JNB, DBN, CPT, PTA, BLOEM metropoles). The rest of the cops in our country don't have 'phones, cars (or have cars without wheels/petrol/licensed drivers). We don't have a de facto riot squad. Each province and major local authority within the province are expected to fend for themselves with whatever they have because it takes 6 weeks to forever to requisition proper equipment - which never arrives.

  • JOHNY63 - 2012-10-16 20:44

    Poor Police. They are up against Barbarians and Hooligans. Why always give them a hiding. Even the best trained police force don't stand a change. They must always be diplomatic but how can they tolerate the never ending onslaught against them. I salute them!!!!!!!

      atholl.canterbury - 2012-10-16 22:01

      Another view can be assessed from the magistrate's bench. He/she takes control and maintains order IN the court precinct which determines crimes outside of the 'precinct'. Now the magistrate has to determine a matter where the crime scene is within his/her precinct! right here, under his/her nose --- so how does he/she respect the 'accused'! Can the magistrate expect to be a victim in the court ??

  • andrez.kolesky - 2012-10-16 21:01

    @Albert Mncwango. "Biting the bullet" is just an expression, (a figure of speech) if you like). What do you suppose they should have done ?? It happened so fast, why didn't he then get out of the way. Well done SAPS for being there and putting your own lives on the line.

      lsfreak - 2012-10-16 21:19

      Two groups shout at each other and they let them mingle, like WTF if they allowed that then they had no control. They should've kept them apart with a gap between them and arrested anyone that entered that zone. Simple people :/

      buhlebam.nyuswa - 2012-10-16 21:24

      Mr mncwango always accuses police for preventing IFP impis from attacking people. Unfortunately in this instance someone stood up to the IFP bullying and acted which resulted in the death of the 29 year old IFP supporter.

  • kasper.mbayi2 - 2012-10-16 21:04

    Those popy police were useless. They had enough chance to save the life of that person. We don't have trust to police at all they are the cowards.

      dewald.galjaard - 2012-10-16 21:32

      hey kasper... quick question. who did you vote for in the last election? DA right? No? We dont want to hear your complaints!

      phoofolo.lebohang - 2012-10-16 21:46

      Think before you can comment...

  • john.ntlatseng - 2012-10-16 21:18

    Police are also people with families needing them....If it was inappropriate for them to make a move accordingly to cease sumone from commitin homicide...doesn't mean they are bad cops...the way people utter it,,,it sound as if those police should've thrown themselvs to the bullets......

  • sakhi.TheNextKent.dlala - 2012-10-16 21:23

    No, I think the IFP has it wrong by blaming the police for the shooting. You cannot prevent someone from reaching for a gun in his pocket nad pulling the trigger, I mean I could go to any political rally with my gun and shoot at some1 in the presence of the police, the failure of the police in this instance was to allow the person (killer) to enter the court room with a gun, that's if he even entered the court-room. Im sure this is something that happened in an instant and police can't always be there to prevent everything. I dont know if im misunderstanding the situation but thats my view

  • Mmathabo Monareng - 2012-10-16 21:35

    the fighting wont stop in kwazulu they are stubborn

  • altusvanzyl - 2012-10-16 21:37

    Altus van Zyl: Difficult to trust mad strikers after strike. Ffs

  • rofhiwa.ronald.1 - 2012-10-16 21:38

    in real life when somebody draws a gun n meant to shoot somebody first step as policeman is own safety n act if its safe 2 do so its not like what peoples sees on cowboys movies. Policemans r humanbeings like every one else

  • donald.perumal - 2012-10-16 21:40

    @Albert Mncwango Firstly,we are in the 21 st century -there is no need for marchers to carry weapons, then the Police will be encouraged to carry shields and batons.

  • buhlebam.nyuswa - 2012-10-16 21:41

    Why was my post removed? The video footage is clear on why and how the shootiing happened. Violence begets violence, unfortunately only fools bring spears to gun fights.

  • Xprim - 2012-10-16 21:47

    police are people,just like all of us. They had enough from unruly,disrepecting adults.

  • dejaay.heineken - 2012-10-16 21:57

    Police will always be there for those who believe on them not for those who want to control saps! We there to protect and serve but not been bodyguard of ppl!

  • lacrimose.wolf - 2012-10-16 22:22

    Welcome to South Africa as we mere mortals experience it, IFP. None of you politricksters has been able to instil an iota of the rule of law in your own ranks, uphold the oath of office or bring any semblance of safety and security to the regions you reign. We live with brutal killing every day. Why should the police be any more trustworthy because one of your members got killed when so many of we citizens die daily for no reason at all?

  • justice.shingange - 2012-10-16 23:05

    It shows that some of the ZULU PEOPLE are foolish

  • Simphiwe Spijo Nxumalo - 2012-10-17 00:10

    1stly he must familiarise himself with Section 49 of the criminal procedures and than he must remember this is Mzansi a country where a police officer is always condemned for whatever action he takes....yes a life was lost but the guy was arrested

  • jerry.medina.756 - 2012-10-17 01:38

    Zulus at it again. Wonder what will happen after Zuma lose at Mangaung.

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