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'Jesus was HIV-positive'

2010-09-03 14:11

Johannesburg – A churchman in Cape Town has angered Christians in his community by preaching that Jesus Christ was HIV-positive, South Africa's Mail & Guardian newspaper reported on Friday.

Reverend Xola Skosana of the charismatic Way of Life church said he had decided to tackle the issue of HIV/Aids head-on to end the stigma surrounding the disease.

In a sermon entitled "Jesus was HIV positive" he told his congregation in Khayelitsha township that God was present in everyone, sick and healthy.

"In many parts of the Bible God put himself in the position of the sick, the marginalised," the 43-year-old pastor said.

"When we attend to those who are sick, we are attending to him. When we ignore people who are sick, we are ignoring him," he argued.

His remarks have sparked an outcry among many Christians in the township, who accuse him of portraying Jesus as sexually promiscuous by drawing a link between the son of God and HIV/Aids.

The virus is mainly transmitted through sex, but can also be spread through needle-sharing, contaminated blood, pregnancy and breastfeeding.

Mystified

Sosana told the paper he was mystified by the controversy.

"It baffles me why in the church this is the most untalked-about subject," he said.

The Catholic Church has been particularly reticent on the pandemic, which kills nearly 1 000 people daily in South Africa, the country with the biggest caseload.

Skosana, who lost two sisters to Aids, has encouraged his congregation to know their HIV status by taking a test in front of them.

Hundred other young men followed suit, the report said.

South Africa's National Aids Council has welcomed his stance.

"There are many churches that have done a lot to combat HIV," SANAC's Mark Heywood said. "The problem is that the church as a whole has not been vocal enough."

Comments
  • rbgguy - 2010-09-03 14:17

    Once again - idiot reporters taking phrases out of context. Media Tribunal here we come baby.

  • Joe - 2010-09-03 14:20

    People just don't get metaphor but at least Reverend Xola Skosana is taking the bull by the horns.

  • fredster - 2010-09-03 14:21

    Jesus healed people and He is God himself. What are you on? There was no sickness in Him.

  • SusanRoux - 2010-09-03 14:22

    Thank you Skosana! Finally church leaders are preaching about aids. It's HIGH time. It's incredible how some people give love boundaries where the examples in the Bible CLEARLY shows love have NO boundaries!

  • Jordan - 2010-09-03 14:23

    Oh my gosh, I don't think Jesus became sick in order to heal. I can't remember him being blind or mute...poor way to tackle HIV, Skosana, poor indeed!

  • daaivark - 2010-09-03 14:25

    Metaphor is something that people nowadays seem unable to grasp. A real pity.

  • Dyl - 2010-09-03 14:26

    Who cares??? Does saying "Jesus was HIV Positive" make Jesus HIV-Positive???

  • Nonna - 2010-09-03 14:28

    I am so tired of people ridiculing and making statements to the masses! Why does people do it???? He is an IDIOT!!!!!

  • JB - 2010-09-03 14:30

    Obviously you are serving a different Jesus! My Master didn't engage in sex or do drugs (needle-sharing), didn't get a blood transfer or wasn't pregnant. You are a priest from Lucifer rev. Reverend Xola Skosana, your idioot.

  • realist - 2010-09-03 14:31

    Well he took our sickness onto himself. So yes.

  • tbone - 2010-09-03 14:32

    This shows you how holier than though christians are. They are more worried that Jesus was sexually promiscuous which might sully his name. In fact Jesus had a girlfriend (which was labeled as a prostitute by the church), namely mary magdalene. But then logic and facts are alien and threatening to faith and god.@rbgguy - you are the real idiot.

  • SusanRoux - 2010-09-03 14:34

    Jesus experienced all the rejection and humiliation with his cruxifiction, the same kind of rejection HIV positive people experience! I can't see any problem with the metaphore.

  • Austen_b - 2010-09-03 14:37

    Aids was only diagnosed for the first time in the 80's and was non existant before 1960 at least! come on people!

  • Cpt. Obvious @ Joe - 2010-09-03 14:37

    Sir, I believe you have misread this story. He took an HIV test, not a bull by the horns. What would a Reverend do with a bull?

  • hangwis - 2010-09-03 14:38

    that is wt i cal idiotic preaching, how can a normal person pronounce that with his mouth,if a person doesn't have anything to talk about better keep quet pls!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • emjay - 2010-09-03 14:38

    What utter blasphemy! And spoken by an utter idiot. Anyway, HIV & AIDS infections as a disease of mankind has only been prevelant for less than 50 years!

  • Gruella - 2010-09-03 14:38

    What a load of bs!!!! Nowhere in the Bible is any reference to our Perfect and Holy Father being contaminated with aids. And this from a person who calls himself a disciple (isn't that what Preachers, Pasters etc. should be called?). I would imagine that aids is rather the "incurable diseace" which is warned about at the end of days... saying that Jesus had aids, is indirectly confessing he was a sinner and sexually immoral???? Paster Skosana, refer back to the word of God, please use your eye glasses this time round. It is a good thing to talk about aids, where it comes from, and what the Bible has to say... Homosexuality, Sex outside the marriage etc etc... SINS that cause sex. Get people rather to confess sins and turn to God, rather than to blaspheme!

  • Jay - 2010-09-03 14:44

    Once again, people getting hysterical instead of actually READING the article properly. He is NOT saying that Jesus was literally HIV+. What he IS saying is that Jesus is in all of us, INCLUDING people who are HIV+.

  • HIV free - 2010-09-03 14:46

    I say let the Lord deal with them once judgement day comes.

  • Bobby Jane - 2010-09-03 14:48

    I say let the Lord deal with them once judgement day comes.

  • francoise - 2010-09-03 14:50

    I think this was pretty smart from this guy. Besides no one really knows whether Jesus actually performed miracles or rose from the dead. WHat about mary magdeleen ??

  • Blondie - 2010-09-03 14:51

    All you indoctrinated christian fools should pick up other than the bible once in a while , then you'd learn about something called a "metaphor" , jeez waste my time with an inaccurate inflammatory article, either these reporters are truly dumb (a possibility) or they are cashing in on blind(and naive) devotion . This guy is doing a really good thing . People its 2010 get out of the dark ages already ... cmon aren't you a little embarrassed ? heh heh.....

  • jules - 2010-09-03 14:52

    To the idiot commentators: IT'S CALLED A METAPHOR!!!! Look it up. Bringing HIV/AIDS counselling and Church together is a GOOD THING for this country!!!! WAKE UP!

  • Badger - 2010-09-03 14:53

    What else would one expect coming out of Khayelitsha ?? Did he also not mention that raping a baby would cure Aids and Buffalo horns cure constipation. The Lord makes them and I find them !!!!!!

  • Shark - 2010-09-03 14:54

    the reverend deserves a standing ovation...
    it is worrisome tht the church says little to nothing about the HIV pandemic & yet continues to bury victim after victim after victim & turning a blind eye to the issue at hand.
    it is disheartening to see how his statement has been delibarately misconstrued by narrow minded so-called Christians...wake up idiots!!!

  • francois - 2010-09-03 14:54

    I see reading and comprehension is still a problem amongst the population. Especially when it comes to metaphors. Lets see, The poor reverend did NOT say that 2000 odd years ago Jesus was HIV positive. He said by ignoring to give help to HIV positive people is akin to denying Jesus. Since Jesus works in all of us. Does this make more sense? There seems to be a few here that have the holier than thou attitude. Something the priest was actually talking about.

  • Mr T - 2010-09-03 14:55

    This is misleading. May he repent from his statement.

  • Dr Steve Brule - 2010-09-03 14:56

    He must have got it from that kid he raised from the dead and then slept with.
    I told JC "Be wise condomise", but no he always knew better.

  • Mariette - 2010-09-03 14:56

    That's defnt not the Jesus that I serve that he's talking about. MY God can do anything, Anytime, Anywhere.

  • areyoupeopleforreal.com - 2010-09-03 14:58

    I am not a Christian, however I do seem to remember reading about Jesus getting into a spot of bother when he started hanging around with lepers. It seems to me that AIDS sufferers have been demonized in the same way that lepers were 2,000 years ago and no doubt if Jesus were around today, these are the very people he would be chatting to. Anything said or done to raise AIDS awareness has to be a good thing. @Gruella, you, and many others seem to equate AIDS with "immoral" sexual practices. Come tell that to the thousands of AIDS babies born in our country. God help us all.

  • NS - 2010-09-03 14:58

    I interpret his statement as Jesus, the living God, living in the hearts of HIV infected people as much as in healthy people.

  • Justice Matsoati - 2010-09-03 14:59

    To my understanding the HIV/AIDS only surfaced in the 21st Century whereas Jesus was here over 2000 years ago. Unless if there is an unopposed truth to support this statement......

  • Boy - 2010-09-03 14:59

    I feel this guy makes sense, he is just reminding us of what Jesus did for the sick, Jesus healed the sick raised the dead. Jesus didn't just walk around the rich and healthy people. He was all over where help was needed. He dwelled between murderers, rapists, thieves, his disciples were not priests, pastors or angels, they were bad people before he changed their lives. Jesus didn't discriminate, he loved all, this man is wanting help from us and gov. to sort out the HIV/Aids problem, open your heart and don't worry about Jesus, he can defend himself. Jesus is Lord and he does carry the weight of the world, which means he feels the pains of the HIV/Aids ppl. Christians sometimes worry to much about other people issues, we as Christians we should see to our own salvation first and then silly things like this wont worry you. We should walk and talk the way of Jesus Christ then you will see how at peace we all can be. Jesus loves us all.

  • Literate - 2010-09-03 15:02

    It's called a metaphor. Jesus also used them often when he preached. The pastor was trying to illustrate how Jesus would have reacted to people with HIV, with empathy and love. He didn't say that Jesus actually had HIV.

  • Oh - 2010-09-03 15:05

    I understand his metaphor, but he could have titled his sermon a little more carefully...

  • james - 2010-09-03 15:05

    I reckon they should close these comments down. Seriously, it is only MORONS who comment here.

  • grace - 2010-09-03 15:06

    "Jesus was HIV positive"..... those were his words, i dont remember the bible saying that he used the heal the sick.

  • anon - 2010-09-03 15:06

    HA HA HA! oh wow...

  • Lehlogonolo Manamela - 2010-09-03 15:07

    Spirituality has and will always be an issue in RSA, but HIV is not a joke, lets rather help each other to combat the spread of HIV/Aids, rather than pointing fingers at each other, we all know that Jesus was never HIV positive and we all believe that He died for our sins.
    Rodney

  • CommanderA - 2010-09-03 15:11

    Thank god I'm an Atheist.

  • Summergirl - 2010-09-03 15:12

    All this mumbo jumbo... christians and those who wish to have there say... Take the log out of your own eye before you try and take the splinter out of anothers....God-Jesus & the Holy Spirit lives & loves each and everyone of us... just know it and go in peace with love and kindness in your heart and a smile on your face, confess your sins and know that what you do unto others will be done unto you it is the way....love & peace.. heres to a beautiful spring weekend in Good ole SA

  • fatcat - 2010-09-03 15:12

    i agree with HIV Free. Judgement day will come ......

  • Alchemist - 2010-09-03 15:14

    @ HIV free. Judgemental people like you are the ones that should fear yourselves. At least this man is making an effort to comfort, the Jesus example as I recall, and not making smug little judgemental comments !

  • GJB - 2010-09-03 15:15

    For crying out loud. Having read the above article, the Reverend merely points out that Jesus is "HIV-positive" because He loves everybody and are part of those that allows Him, irregardless of bla, bla, bla. Please use some intelligence given to you

  • Logan - 2010-09-03 15:16

    LOL, all you religious nuts going crazy about the thaught of jesus having aids....first no proof he existed second there is no evidance that aid was around then... this by all evidance is a new desiese. We only really saw the start of it in the 80s people must learn to think...

  • Knox - 2010-09-03 15:18

    And every tongue that rises against you Ps Skosana in judgement condemn it , come on people or rather saints thsi is a metaphor and the man of God, is not wrong because HE took all our sickness onto Himself

  • Mary - 2010-09-03 15:19

    What alot of bull MY Jesus is perfect who ever could think of Jesus had HIV is a very sick person!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • IZ IT - 2010-09-03 15:19

    easily the best headline grabber since journalists have been around.And to the happy clappers out there,pls get a life.This world has been created by god,everything that is good and bad is his decision...there is a reason for this headline and this ministers sermon.Its gods plan so rather appreciate it or stick your head in a hole!

  • Bongani - 2010-09-03 15:23

    People, please read the article ... clearly if I may rephrase it "God love us all, HIV +/- ... Or Am i missing something here ...?

  • nens - 2010-09-03 15:25

    Don't miss the point Jesus said rather cry for you and your children be faithfull to your partner and respect each other. He was and is the perfect sacrifice.