Joburg CBD roads closed for Spear case

2012-05-24 09:11

Johannesburg - Roads will be closed in the Johannesburg CBD on Thursday when the ANC goes to the South Gauteng High Court to ask that a controversial painting of President Jacob Zuma be taken down, Johannesburg metro police said.

Chief Superintendent Wayne Minnaar said Pritchard Street between Von Wielligh and Von Brandis Streets would be closed. Kruis Street would be blocked at President Street.

Motorists could use Market and Jeppe Streets. There was a strong police presence outside the court.
Judge Kathree Setiloane has granted permission for and eSat to broadcast the court proceedings live.

The painting at the centre of the court battle, titled The Spear, was part of Cape Town artist Brett Murray's exhibition Hail to the Thief II at the Goodman Gallery in Johannesburg.

The ANC wanted the gallery to remove the painting. It also wanted the City Press newspaper to remove a photo of the painting from its website. The work was vandalised on Tuesday.

Earlier that day the court application was postponed to allow all parties to file further papers.

Zuma's children would also join the case to have the painting removed from the gallery. It was not immediately clear which of Zuma's children would join the case.

Murray had applied to be part of proceedings.

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  • Surfing - 2012-05-24 09:15

    The ANC is a struggle party , struggle between leaders, struggle to deliver, struggle with partners,struggle with its own organs, struggle with press, struggle with integrity, struggle with reality, struggling with the people, struggling to survive, struggling with corruption, strugglomg with irregularities, struggling with paintings

      Christopher - 2012-05-24 09:21

      Keep it hanging! (no pun intended)

      Rabble-Rouser - 2012-05-24 09:30

      And the rent-a-crowd brigade will once again throng the streets. You can see it when they carry printed placards. They are bussed in, given a free T shirt with KFC and coke and sent off with a below minimum wage at the end of the day.

      Fred - 2012-05-24 09:33

      I'm also struggling ....... to understand why a government which has failed its people can still waste taxpayers money on courtcases over matters that are now moot. The painting is down and destroyed. Mind you, the more this ridiculous situation carries on, the more the rest of the world is understanding what sort of banana republic this has become.

      Bryan - 2012-05-24 09:39

      I still do not see the point in going to court for this..!! The painting has been defaced and removed from display.. the horse has bolted and the stable door been closed. Ok, so the ANC want City press to remove the painting from their website..., and then what? Millions of copies have gone viral, the damage has been done! Rather than continue to wipe egg on their own faces.., rather move forward and focus on the real issues at hand instead of dwelling on something that cannot be changed, because the image is indelibly printed in the minds of millions...

      John - 2012-05-24 09:46

      These guys are a joke, you would honestly think there were more important things to do during a work day than spending money and manpower on a trivial thing like this painting. There are so many issues that need to be sorted out, it is crazy the way they are going on about this painting. I wish they would do some real work for a change and make a positive difference in all our lives.

      John - 2012-05-24 11:22

      The ANC has brought an application to have the painting The Spear, by Cape Town artist Brett Murray, removed from view in the Rosebank gallery" but this has been done with no help from the court, stop wasting 5 judges time and get back to work and run the country, it what u get paid to do.

  • dewald.galjaard - 2012-05-24 09:16

    Closed on account of all 5 protesters.

      Curry - 2012-05-24 09:29

      Closed because the road markings are racist!!

      Frank - 2012-05-24 09:40

      If only these cretins would pursue corruption, theft, murder, rape, farm attacks and child molestation charges with the same conviction and vigour! We then might stand a chance. Zoomer is a fool deluxe!

  • daniel.j.palma - 2012-05-24 09:17

    I would join but i have this pesky thing called a JOB to attend.

      Pieter Mulder - 2012-05-24 09:24

      See that's the difference between working class and the ignorant pitty-full sash of un educated men getting payed for nothing. Brainless people.

      daniel.j.palma - 2012-05-24 14:03

      I find it funny that i have one "dislike this comment" selected. Must be that one ID10T with out a job.

  • vuledzani.ndou - 2012-05-24 09:18

    Like really now!!!

  • IcemanGP - 2012-05-24 09:18

    Ooh, does this mean that there are no FAT ASSES manning camera's hiding under trees, behind telephone junction boxes trapping people illegally from behind, on a downhill noggal.

  • melania.nel - 2012-05-24 09:19

    When do they have the hearing for Ayanda Mabula's painting? Will they close the streats again for that one too?

      melania.nel - 2012-05-24 09:21

      I mean 'streets'

      carpejugulim - 2012-05-24 09:43

      Melania ... Ayanda's painting can't possibly be racist because the artist wasn't white and so there will be no hearing *sigh* Sadly the true meaning of racism has been perverted to suit the anc.

  • Vickela Mumby - 2012-05-24 09:19

    Its gettin hott!

  • heather.scheepers3 - 2012-05-24 09:22

    Everybody in the CBD of Johannesburg and going mad. What about that little baby and baby sitter murdered in Delmas yesterday Nobody thinks of them. Oh dear what is South Africa coming to.

      Azande - 2012-05-24 10:02

      The country felt sympathy about the incident and if you read comments in that article, condolences were sent to that family. you do think the country will be in a stand still because someone has died, do you? Minister Padeyache died and life went on.

  • colin.langley - 2012-05-24 09:22

      schalk.mattheys - 2012-05-24 10:12

      ROFLMAO! Excellent! With humor we can neutralize so much negativity! I wonder if the guys who gave you the thumbs-down actually went through the whole site...

      colin.langley - 2012-05-24 10:37

      Schalk it's obvious that the thumbs down are from people who don't understand satire and social commentary. To me this site pokes fun mainly at white people but i love the way the black people who are their friends get the joke pretty damn well....then you get the idiots in the "your letters" section think this is a serious site....pity those who don't embrace humour to fight away hate

      Jack - 2012-05-24 11:08

      We will talk in ten years time. A different tune will be sung then, trust me on this one.

      Jared - 2012-05-24 13:29

      Thats got to be the dumbest thing I have ever seen. Who ever made that website is an idiot.

  • paulgerber969 - 2012-05-24 09:22

    Closing roads that's absurd.

  • joanita.hilton - 2012-05-24 09:23

    Truth24 - May 24, 2012 at 09:16 "Closed on account of all 5 protesters. " <<<< HAHAHAHAH, Hectic protest indeed

  • mukosit - 2012-05-24 09:24

    I hope Goodman(Badman)Gallery is enjoying what they started. Marketing their name.

      Tamaranui - 2012-05-24 09:33

      They are the real Terrorist organization here.

      Azande - 2012-05-24 10:12

      by the looks of things, its not turning out nicely to them. they are skating on thin ice.

  • Sekalf - 2012-05-24 09:24

    Yeeaaahhh, 'The Spear' gets even more publicity - Even the EU summit has its's fun with it.

      Tamaranui - 2012-05-24 09:33

      What type of Patriot are you, So you are happy that the EU is having a laugh, sorry to bust your bubble however it seems that all comments by world leaders condemn the image. Now the world realizes that our battle for liberation is NOT complete.

      Dale - 2012-05-24 10:00

      if this happened to any other world leader they would of handled it so much better then Zuma... About of one stupid painting roads are blocked people are calling people racists... Zuma must grow up. Yes the painting is wrong. Dont let other people suffer for it!!!

      schalk.mattheys - 2012-05-24 10:20

      @ Tamaranui You need to be liberated from your own stupidity mate, forget the EU, the world is taking a good look at SA right now and the collective "WTF?" reaction is making ZippoZoomer look like even more of an incompetent than he already is! The painting is already down...whats the point of a court case!?

      Azande - 2012-05-24 10:44

      @schalk, they are going to court to challenge the extent of freedom of expression and to put across a principle to set a precedent. this has nothing much to do with the painting itself but with the alleged violation of JZ rights. You do not think ANC will be like robots... its up now, go to court....its down now, stop...its up again, go dude it doesn't work that way. be careful before you call people stupid, you might be exposing yourself of the same.

      schalk.mattheys - 2012-05-24 11:00

      @ Azande, JZ's "rights" are to serve the South African Citizen, his current track record is testimony to his total disregard in serving anybody but himself. This court case is a waste of taxpayers money and time wasted that could be better spent taking care of real issues, you know like combating unemployment, crime, corruption... just saying, but hey, if JZ wants to make a point, about his little spear, he may as well do it, the rest of the world is also watching, not just SA.

      Azande - 2012-05-24 11:21

      @schalk, I like the way you are so selective in pointing out his rights. You conveniently left out "his rights as a citizen of the country" which by the way are the ones he is protecting is this case. like I said, this case is about finding out how wide freedom of expression is and is it proper for the artists to express themselves in a manner that is disrespectful (as that painting has been deemed by many) and provocative (as its now triggering racial fight)? So its a matter of perception, we just have to respect what and how others view this matter and not try to impose our own views to them. that is my point. have a perfect day.

  • ronel.kotze.3 - 2012-05-24 09:24

    What a waste of time and money..focus one the real issues..

      Tamaranui - 2012-05-24 09:30

      Are you listening Murray,

  • YuccaN - 2012-05-24 09:25

    Let's refer to it as "The Smear" from now on please. Yesterday the ANC said they don't need foreign aid, yet JZ came to Norway last year asking for funding. Norway is already looking after South Africa's sick (me) because our government has a growing first family. Cancer patients can't get chemo because 21 Lamborghini wedding are more important than a healthy nation. A healthy nation can pay TAX. Note I capitalized TAX because it may get some attention.

      Tamaranui - 2012-05-24 09:31

      huh ???

      melania.nel - 2012-05-24 10:04

      They should have trown some pap on the painting. New title 'PAP Smear'. Hey Tamaranui, what's your views on Ayanda Mabula's paintings? Guess you won't answer right? Then you would be proven wrong.

  • Bob - 2012-05-24 09:26

    This is actually a pathetic situation...all round! We have a country to try and build and keep on track and the country comes to a virtual halt over this saga! I’m still waiting 3 years down the line for a court case and this one is shoved to the front in a flash! Maybe I should stand on a bridge and flash the traffic…that way I can get to court quicker! Albeit not for the same case tho!

      Tamaranui - 2012-05-24 09:30

      Try not flashing, There could GBH charges laid against you.

  • motlatsi.mohlamonyane - 2012-05-24 09:28

    This is just time waisting and tax money waisting! Is there nothing this people can do resolve the problems without spending money.

      Mavhungu Vincent - 2012-05-24 09:34

      Fighting for his rights, it is a waste of money? Imaging if it was your father.

      Tony Lapson - 2012-05-24 09:35

      *Wasting* Sorry to be a grammar nazi.

      Azande - 2012-05-24 10:47

      @motlatsi. correction...ANC does not use tax payers money. secondly, if fighting for a right is wasting time to you, wait till yours is grossly violated and say the same.

      Schmee - 2012-05-24 11:24

      A-skande our rights are grossly violated every day by the criminals that walk the streets and the taxi drivers that show no consideration for the law and people like you expect us to just suck it up.

      Azande - 2012-05-24 11:33

      @schmee, you shooting the wrong man.

  • aikhona.zuma - 2012-05-24 09:28

    What a waste. As if our struggling economy doesn`t need all the help available. Its actually a pity no one has tried as yet to put a number to te economic suffering caused with one man`s obsession for attention and recognition. How many times have streets had to close down to accomodate the clueless fools who still supports this person? How many times will streets still have to close to satisfy the whims of a sick mind? How many small businesses will suffer? How many bosses will sit their heads in their hands because of absenteeism caused by these silly gatherings? How many children will have to forego a day of schooling to satisfy the fragile ego of a person who doesn`t have anything to offer anyone. South Africa, We Have To Stop This Rot. We Have To Put An End To This Putrid Stench That Is Wafting Across Our Land. We Have To Get This Vulture Out Of Office.

  • Tamaranui - 2012-05-24 09:29

    Lucky to get a parking , Eish many Comrades here supporting the President.

      Dale - 2012-05-24 10:01

      Dont forget to pay for parking!!!!

      Sekalf - 2012-05-24 10:16

      unemployed? we still need a gardener!

      michael.a.devilliers - 2012-05-24 10:22

      I wish I didn't have to work or study and I could attend protests and demonstrations all week long. That'd be the life.

  • Brigitte - 2012-05-24 09:32

    What a pathetic fuss about nothing. Most of us wouldn't even know about it if the ANC didn't make a big deal of it. Grow up Mr Zuma and grow up ANC!

  • Tawizee - 2012-05-24 09:32

    Blah, blah, blah...I'm not paying! Ooops sorry this ain't about e-trolls.

  • Schmee - 2012-05-24 09:32

    Sorry can't be there, I'm washing my hair.

  • Grace - 2012-05-24 09:33

    Much-a-do about nothing. This is just another excuse for all the lazy people to take a day off work!!!

  • mart.botha - 2012-05-24 09:33

    The energy with which the ANC is approaching this hiccup is exactly what is missing with their piss poor attempts at routing out corruption, criminal activities by syndicates, and the general chaos that prevails within law and order in this country. 'Never before in the history of this country has such a loud and clear message been broadcast to the voters by a political party, and this message is ~YOU DON"T MATTER, ONLY WE MATTER~. This is the spark that will see the masses turning on their masters and at last they will move towards the realisation that they have been sold down the river.

      mart.botha - 2012-05-24 09:51

      Let's schedule a 'Million People March' and schedule it for June 16th. In every city, town and village in the country we must march and send a very clear message to Government that we the people are 'gatvol' of crime and corruption in the country, we are sick and tired of criminals dictating how we are forced to live our lives, we are sick and enough of criminals being treated better than the poor and those who have chosen not to do crime, we have had it with Governments refusal to consider the death penalty as a means of eliminating the murderous scumbags that permeate throughout each and every society in this country, we are gatvol of Human Rights Advocates telling us we are all the same, when patently we are not, how illogical to tell Thoko the driver of the bread delivery van and who is a model citizen, that the bastard who stole money from the Widow and Orphan's Pension Fund is the same and has the same rights as him. That is an absolute insult to Thoko and takes away the incentive to be 'that model citizen'. Above all the ANC Government must shape up and focus outwards to the people of the country and not inwards as they have been doing for the last decade plus.

      aikhona.zuma - 2012-05-24 10:22

      Please count me in on the Million Man March Idea, Mart. The only problem is that June 16 might not be the best of times, as these idiots will just use that as a good excuse to show their stupid followers that some people will never appreciate the sacrifices made to end apartheid. Its obvious by now that these hyenas will milk every opportunity to play the race and struggle history card. What I would recommend is a day when a foreign visitor is in the country, when we can then picket outside the Union Buildings demanding that this person step down, or suspend himself until all avenues have been explored that declares him fit for office. At the same time should we establish a forum to call for eligible leaders to form a proper organization that will lead this country with the respect, dignity, and consideration it so richly deserves.

  • Andre - 2012-05-24 09:33

    Although I personally do not approve of the painting, I believe that the ANC is one again going to lose this case. The reason is that it was not visible to the man in the street as it was housed in a gallery. The ANC should start spending it's millions on constructive projects and stop wasting time and money on artwork!

      bhulangwe - 2012-05-24 11:56

      well, it visible ANC will win

  • Piet - 2012-05-24 09:34

    Can't this crap come to a end.???\The amusement has gone a long time ago!!! Get a life ANC and think of growing up.!!!

      Tamaranui - 2012-05-24 09:40

      Are you listening Murray ???

  • charmaine.paterson1 - 2012-05-24 09:35

    Fortunately the ANC have so many unemployed supporters this protest shouldn't affect the economy.

  • braamc - 2012-05-24 09:35

    Watch the destruction from the cANCer filth!

  • Brigitte - 2012-05-24 09:39

    I would like proof that no taxpayers money has been wasted on this case. Were the donors to the ANC asked if they would like their money spent like this? If taxpayers money is used we should all sue the ANC for theft and corruption.

  • JayJohnsonS - 2012-05-24 09:39

    i am 23 years of age and i really am not learning anything from News24 and its readers, everyday is a reminder of apartheid, how black or white we are, resist comments and all these negative stuff...

      jedidia.madida - 2012-05-24 09:48

      This just shows how much hatred we have amongst ourselves and it's getting us nowhere as a nation

      Sibusiso - 2012-05-24 09:57

      Jay I'm also a 23 year old, let's show these old people that its possible to think beyond ones skin colour. They are messing up S.A, we will be left alone fighting because of skin pigmentation. We the youth , we should take ownership of our country and start being more involved

      abiola.oliyide.1 - 2012-05-24 10:08

      Do you everthink that racism will every stop in south africa,is a big No, and many unemployed youth can easily be called for protest because they are always busy doing nothing...

      Rob - 2012-05-24 10:12

      The black youth are the most racist of the lot, thanks to Malema. The ANC has BEE & AA & constantly resorts to blaming apartheid for almost everything, as does the dreadful little ( retired ) archbishop. If you were white in this country & overwhelmed by blacks under the leadership of a government that is bringing this country to its knees, how would you feel ? Hatred ! YES. For those that rape, murder, steal and those that are corrupt, inept & unable to run a spaza shop, let alone a country.

      Sibusiso - 2012-05-24 10:16

      Rob jay just said he's tired of people like you that always base everything on race.

      Rob - 2012-05-24 10:33

      Sibusio. Well like it or not, everything IS about race. The ANC tells us so almost everyday. And you are living in a dream world if you think race is not a factor or a part of our daily lives in South Africa. I'm also tired of : 1. Black Taxi association stating that they do not want White or Indian cops pulling them over. 2. Cosatu saying that the law favours Whites. 3. The ANC claiming that Kill the Boer etc is harmless & a merely a struggle song. 4. Watching ANC voters protest violently against service delivery. 5. Black Lawyers Association, Black this & that association. 6. Overbreeding & then claiming poverty & receiving govt grants from tax payers money. 7. Criticising anything to do with a black & being told to go to Australia or Europe. The list goes on.....I guess we are all pretty tired of one thing or the other by now.

      mart.botha - 2012-05-24 10:55

      Jay...if you are not learning anything from what is presented for your consumption by News24, you have no one to blame but yourself. This forum affords you the opportunity that was never available to people pre electronic news days and it gives you almost instant access to different view points. If you took the time to consider the many posts that you may label 'racist', you will come to realise that not all so called 'racist comments' are made by those that fit the seminal definition of 'racist'. I would rather you read between the lines and consider the frustrations being experienced by people of all colours and creeds. The very fact that all these people are taking the time to publish their opinions means that at the very least they are acknowledging the various situations. I can pretty much guarantee that there are many out and out racists out there, but by far the vast majority are what I would call ' recovering racists ', ie. those that presume because historical experience dictates one race or the other. I urge you not to dismiss what is presented before you as 'racism' but rather read, reflect, re-read, reflect and then perhaps conclude your own opinion. Also don't be afraid to share this resultant opinion, perhaps at least one sensible participant will acknowledge you as having valid points. YES, you may attract abuse and criticism but try and be tolerant, not everyone sees things the way we as individuals want them to see things, but it's all good. Stay on and give

  • Andile - 2012-05-24 09:41

    All Government Departments must stop advertising in City Press!!!

  • stephen.axtell.7 - 2012-05-24 09:46

    Guys, I am in the mob renting business. I can supply you a mob for any occassion. They can sing and dance for extra charge. They will be oblivious to what they are protesting about.

      Rob - 2012-05-24 10:44

      LOL. Doing your bit for the unemployed Stephen.

  • Nigel - 2012-05-24 09:47

    The time and energy wasted on this is just unbelievable. Ignore the real problems and go and play in the streets like mischievous little delinquents.

  • Ayanda Yaya Khumalo - 2012-05-24 09:48

    city press must remove zuma painting and goodman gaLlery must come forward and apologies before this become a war and news24 fail us

  • Mavhungu Vincent - 2012-05-24 09:48

    I don't think ANC is wasting any taxpayer's money, each and every party has been allocated its money to fullfil its needs. Let them fight for their rights.

  • Mavhungu Vincent - 2012-05-24 09:49

    I don't think ANC is wasting any taxpayer's money, each and every party has been allocated its money to fullfil its needs. Let them fight for their rights.

  • Sanda - 2012-05-24 09:49

    People who comment on this column hehehehe, empty vessels indeed.

  • Timothy - 2012-05-24 09:50

    So lame... you would think this country has better things to do

  • Sibusiso - 2012-05-24 09:50

    The economy of JHB disrupted, people inconvenienced, why? Because someone feels insulted by a picture that is not of him but about his lifestyle. There is no job creation , but no one has ever marched to demand better policies so that there can be jobs created.

  • Sibusiso - 2012-05-24 09:51

    The economy of JHB disrupted, people inconvenienced, why? Because someone feels insulted by a picture that is not of him but about his lifestyle. There is no job creation , but no one has ever marched to demand better policies so that there can be jobs created.

      franco.beukman - 2012-05-24 09:56

      DA did march for that purpose

      Sibusiso - 2012-05-24 10:04

      And they were stoned, for wanting a better future. There is a problem in this country, people can't think beyond their skin colour.\r\nI'm calling on \ALL\ S.A people to unite and fight for a better economy- the current leadership is ruining our country before our eyes.

  • Psy4genic.Mgcwaba - 2012-05-24 10:03

    The sad thing is that most the people whom the ANC has called to go and protest outside that courtroom as if their presence there will make a difference to whatever the court ruling is going to be are unemployed nd living in porvety. The image that needs protection is the image of South Africa and the poor people living in it, the President is not helping at all in that front.

  • Mike - 2012-05-24 10:04

    The painting was mild if compared to these cartoons

  • Daniel - 2012-05-24 10:06

    Takes 6 months and a court order to get text books to schools in limpopo but 2 days to organise a march and boards printed for this! Amazing how efficient the anc can be when they want to be!

  • Scouter - 2012-05-24 10:09

    Anybody remember the furore over the 'Mohammad cartoon' - shouldn't be too long before Malema issues a Fatwa ...... (if he is true to his word that is)

  • Ngwana - 2012-05-24 10:11

    Is this a joke or what? I wish someone can produce a movie about this painting. Maybe it might do well in Grammy Awards.[I m serious]

  • lisa.evansdominick - 2012-05-24 10:12

    For Goodness sake I wish the government and ANC would spent as much, time, effort and resources on uplifting the poor and needy. If Zuma and his cronies had laughed off the paining and made a joke of it the effect would have fallen flat and the gallery and artist would not have received half the publicity they have... spend your time and effort on something positive...

  • bhulangwe - 2012-05-24 10:12

    I will be there to support the president of my country for now and the next 5 yrs. This is not about the ANC or ZUMA in fact this is about our culture, values, beliefs and a dignity of all men in South Africa. I belive the consitution has its limitation. If you believe exposing other people's genitiles no matter how it offend them is your right/freedom of expression, then we have a huge problem in our constitution.

      Rob - 2012-05-24 10:50

      It seems like many people from your culture are not adhering to your VERSION of values, beliefs & dignity. Way too much rape & murder from one culture., six to ten kids & multiple " wives. " Real family values there. Perhaps your culture is just misunderstood. Right ?

      bhulangwe - 2012-05-24 13:03

      unfortunately Judges will not be entertaining your argument sinse it's irrelevant and Im not going to engage you on this one because obviously you won't understand even if I try...\Ignorance @ its best\

  • liezl.pretorius - 2012-05-24 10:12

    This matter is getting a whole lot more attention than it deserves! The painting is gross, whoever buys it has a screw loose. All in the name of publicity... and the ANC is playing right into their hands

  • Bradz - 2012-05-24 10:20

    The ANC's court case is going ahead TODAY to force the gallery to remove the artwork.- A 17 year-old mentally challenged girl was gang raped & the video went viral. No one marched.- An 8-year-old girl was raped by a 15 year-old boy & her eyes gouged out. No one marched.- Entire provinces are without school text books - it's almost June. No one marched.- Our imminent police chief is a gangster & has brought our police service to its knees. No one marched.- Our country has one of the highest unemployment rates in the world. No one marched.- Our democracy is going down the toilet but no one marches. But our country goes hysterical over a painting! We threaten lawsuits,protests & violent reprisals. Where are our priorities???What are we thinking??????!!!!We have now proven beyond doubt that our collective mentality doesn't rise above the waist

  • tebogo.tsajoa - 2012-05-24 10:25

    so the useless 'spear' case has taken the attention of the metro cops,,meaning there r no cops to look aftr the etoll gantries, mmmm! good thngs might come out of this aftr all!!