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Jub Jub denied bail

2012-10-16 17:41

Johannesburg - Murder accused musician Molemo "Jub Jub" Maarohanye and Themba Tshabalala were denied bail in the Protea Magistrate's Court on Tuesday.

Magistrate Brian Nemavhidi said in order to be granted bail, the accused needed to prove exceptional circumstances.

"Both the accused had ample time, two months, to get their houses in order," he said.

"Application denied. Postponed to 30 November for sentencing."

The State argued that Maarohanye was a flight risk as he had already tried to go to Nigeria and Mozambique, countries with no extradition laws with South Africa, for business.

Maarohanye had claimed the bail application was not about him, as he had 17 employees and wanted to ensure the business and his 2-year-old son were taken care of.

"Its not about me... I already knew my life was over on Friday," he said.

At the announcement family members of the schoolchildren cheered and clapped hands.

They were upset that Tshabalala and Maarohanye had applied for bail.

"Them applying for bail means they show no remorse," one of the mothers said outside court earlier.

Family members of Maarohanye burst into tears.

Maarohanye and Tshabalala were found guilty of four counts of murder, two counts of attempted murder, use of drugs, racing on a public road and driving under the influence of drugs.

They were drag-racing in Protea North on 8 March 2010 when they crashed into a group of schoolchildren.

Prince Mohube, Mlungisi Cwayi, Andile Mthombeni, and Phomello Masemola, were killed.

Frank Mlambo and Fumani Mushwana were seriously injured.

Comments
  • Rabbler.Rouser - 2012-10-16 17:48

    It's quite amazing how these arrogant sods only show some "remorse" now. Enjoy the hospitality of correctional services.

      desertratbkf - 2012-10-16 17:53

      Sad thing is, it's at the cost of the taxpayer! They should be eradicated from society, forever!

      gerhard.vermeulen.77 - 2012-10-16 18:07

      How will this help them and society? Jailing them for one stupid act? It is not like they planned this "murder" ? All off you are hypocrites. Most of you was behind at some time when you were "over the limit".. Get real.

      lownabester - 2012-10-16 18:08

      Lekker, nou dit is justice, Bliksems

      rob.gunning.1 - 2012-10-16 18:21

      They don't think they're guilty so how can they show any remorse? They never changed their plea, they maintained their innocence; They lied the entire time. There has still been no apology, no acceptance to the crime, nothing. Let them rot.

      rob.gunning.1 - 2012-10-16 18:24

      @gerjard: Have you ever stopped to consider that it is you that is driving intoxicated so now you try to pass that blame on to "the forum", I'm glad this judgment has affected you enough to read and comment. Maybe it will prevent you from being "over the limit" in the future.

      grant.callaway.50 - 2012-10-16 18:25

      Gerhard, you're an idiot! ANYBODY who decides to speed in their cars high on drugs deserves to be behind bars - even if they dont actually kill anybody! EVERYBODY knows the risks of driving drunk - speeding at the same time is even worse...near a school is even worse. Then showing no remorse (in fact showing blatant arrogance) is reprehensible! You've got a screw loose if you feel you should defend these punks!

      squeegee.pilot - 2012-10-16 18:25

      Gerhard, speak for yourself, dronkg%t. Keep it up, you will join them soon. This is not some accident.

      arnold.niemand.5 - 2012-10-16 18:47

      @gerhard.vermeulen.77.can you for a split second put youself in the shoes of the families who lost kids in this "accident".You D&&s,dispicable idiot

      Rabbler.Rouser - 2012-10-16 18:55

      @gerhard. In legal terms he has been found guilty based on Dolas. That means that he could have reasonably forseen the outcome of his actions. As opposed to Culpa in which a person did not intend to and accidently caused the death of the children. His reckless actions demonstrated intent. Therefore he is guilty of murder.

      mart.botha - 2012-10-16 19:14

      Only REAL men admit it when they have screwed up, and they accept the consequences. These two pretenders have not only destroyed lives but as RR has said, this remorse is as fake as Chinese quality (my words not RR) and they have proved yet again that no matter how much money you have, you cannot buy class!

      warren.slater.353 - 2012-10-16 20:19

      @ Gerhard. Anyone can make an stupid mistake but if one is truly remorseful one should fess-up, apologise and take the rap. These guys tried every trick in the book to discredit witnesses (making them out as liars), every legal loophole available and for way too long simply ignored the families of the victims. That's why I have no sympathy for them.

      lynn.syme.1 - 2012-10-16 21:42

      gerhard.vermeulen.77 - It's murder. People are dead because the law was broken with intent. Get it?

      donald.maasdorp.5 - 2012-10-16 22:13

      gerhard yes I may have had one to many and drove home, but I never drag raced down a two lane road in the middle of a urban area and forgeting that there are children and other road users on the road. They got what was coming only thing it took two years. They could have saved us taxpayers a lot of money by admitting guilt. LOL morphine in your blood and you feel more remorse than them.

      nathan.g.moss - 2012-10-17 09:15

      Gerhard my mate last year was killed in a car accident because he was drunk. Since that day a large group of his mates will touch a single drop of alcohol if they are driving. A clever man learns from his mistakes, a wise man learns from others. If just a few people learn from this accident, that’s how it can help society. My mate is with me in my avatar, he’s the one on the left.

      Jo.Davies123 - 2012-10-17 09:29

      @Gerhard. So what you are saying is that we all get at least one chance to get dopped up/drunk, speed along a road in a drag race and kill people! That is such and interesting interpretation of our legal system. Please advise on how many millions can I can steal and any other crimes i can commit before I become liable and accountable for my crimes...

  • gary.doyle.520 - 2012-10-16 17:51

    Yes, the book is gona be thrown at this vermin at sentencing. Locked up already in the mean time is the place for him. Jub jub's cellmates are gona say Put Put!!

      desertratbkf - 2012-10-16 17:57

      No Vaseline allowed!

  • desertratbkf - 2012-10-16 17:52

    Well deserved. And a nice long wait till sentencing! Now you might understand what the poor families of these innocent CHILDREN have been going through. May you never sleep again!

  • teddy.beer.319 - 2012-10-16 17:59

    If Jub Jub went to Nija, he would possibly disappear into Boko Haram territory, remove his braids, grow a thick beard, wear a toureg veil and speak with an accent. He could easily have a harem and surround himself with virgins. He could stop drinking alcohol or take the drugs that got him in trouble. He would also stop singing. Then he would effectively disappear. Good call from the learned judge!

      teddy.beer.319 - 2012-10-16 18:04

      ..and wait, what would his new name become, Ahmed Jaril?, Mustafa? Or Osama...?

  • salee.sithwell - 2012-10-16 17:59

    High noon!

  • princepkay - 2012-10-16 18:01

    justice

  • princepkay - 2012-10-16 18:02

    justice in south africa in america no celebrity goes tu jail

      Peter - 2012-10-16 18:43

      I think america's justice system at least works mostly, unlike SA. At least they have the death sentance in most states for the bad crimes.

      john.matuludi.3 - 2012-10-16 18:56

      The likes of oj simpson ,wesley snipes also went to jail and so there's nothing special about jub jub , he must just face the music.

  • tumisang.kolobe - 2012-10-16 18:04

    This is all madness, appeal boy

  • henry.vanderburpenfart - 2012-10-16 18:07

    They gonna make their circles beegah.

  • desmond.drake.1 - 2012-10-16 18:08

    How long before they get Shiakitis or selebitus

  • punungwe - 2012-10-16 18:10

    Let this be a lesson to all those high flying reckless socialites. Consider the consequences of your actions very carefully.

  • Xolani Made - 2012-10-16 18:16

    They really deserve whats coming for them........., People must learn to b Responsible....,

  • mdunwazi.sambo - 2012-10-16 18:17

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      brian.heunis - 2012-10-16 23:17

      ,

      brian.heunis - 2012-10-16 23:22

      !

      maphumulo.m - 2012-10-17 07:18

      ?

  • rinus.groeneveld.7 - 2012-10-16 18:18

    And 10/10 for this Magistrate - he saw the lawyers coming on this one ... they thought they must just ask for postponement on judgement and the 2 will get bail again (maybe the "escape" was even planned?). So he said fine, I'll give you time to prepare "mitigation statements" until 30 November (which he knew was bulldust) and waited for the bail re-application which he promptly denied stating they had plenty time to prepare. So, in short, he decided that they should start their sentence today and he sidestepped the lawyers' fancy footwork!! Well done. Justice served. The end.

  • sthembiso.jali.50 - 2012-10-16 18:18

    Time to get rid of that hair style

      lownabester - 2012-10-16 20:37

      I was thinking the same:)

  • patricia.wood.7140 - 2012-10-16 18:28

    Such an arrogant so and so. May he rot in jail. To plead not guilty is a sheer lack of remorse.

  • painboy.double - 2012-10-16 18:28

    i guess money wont help everytime...bye bye, boys!!

  • rasthami.m1 - 2012-10-16 18:29

    Whites kids from waterkloof kill a person they hardly do time they are now being freed,bees le roux boxes a metro police to death his pardoned with a 750000 fine,a white guy feeds a person to the lions he doesn't do times ?! The justices system of the country neh really does disfavour my color

      desertratbkf - 2012-10-16 18:41

      The justice system is in turmoil. I agree about the Waterkloof kids. You see RAS, NO-ONE is above the law! NO ONE!!! Understand why law was put in place! Whats happening here, is it's off the rails! Mmmmm, Im trying to put it simplistic. I cant. You kill someone, you MUST be taken away from society. Whether its pre-meditated, or if your'e under the influence of alcohol and drugs, as these hideous two were! They were drag racing in a 60 km/h zone because they were high and drunk!!! THIS IS NO ACCIDENT!!!!!!! the LAW, says, dont drink and drive,and also dont do drugs! They did both! Suffer the consequences! You, need to build a bridge and get over it! Im thinking you could well be family of one of these two scumbags! You and one or two other on here!

      patrick.saunders123 - 2012-10-16 18:56

      black adults supposedly running the country are not even arrested despite stealing millions. See where i'm going with this?

      rasthami.m1 - 2012-10-16 19:04

      Okay 1stly kensong jub jub wasn't in an intention of killing like those white kids ,the judge might say they did express remorse but they the judge was passed on grounds of emotions to the family what about jub jub from wher he stands I'm not saying he doesn't deserve any punishment

      christi.roestorff - 2012-10-16 19:07

      I agree they should still be sitting and for a long time! Roux's case a little different but still a good argument and one that hopefully will be addressed. Who appoints the Judges?

      logical007 - 2012-10-16 19:17

      @Rasthami let me try putting this simply for yo: Cocaine - cocaine??? Alcohol Alcohol??? Cars Cars?? Don't go together - not like a horse and carriage... DUDE!! Nothing racist about this judge... He was as dark as midnight... brother!! Now get over the fact that Jub -Jub and his friend were black, and face it that they killed children under the influence of drugs alcohol and at speed on a quiet road.

      rasthami.m1 - 2012-10-16 19:23

      Can you people address the issue that I have raised up then you can go with the jub jub issue what are you in defence of this white kids ,le roux .,.

      rasthami.m1 - 2012-10-16 19:34

      The judicial services appoints the judge christi

      patrick.saunders123 - 2012-10-16 19:46

      sure i do, rasthami. You are letting the world know that you are a whiny black prick with an over-inflated sense of entitlement. You'd make a wonderful wife for Julius Malema.

      rasthami.m1 - 2012-10-16 19:53

      Patrick patrick see why I hate talking to pea brains like yourself who always have to involve anc or malema in every issue,mate be relevent please to the comment who knows you might boost your IQ which is by-far below average

      andre.gresse.58 - 2012-10-17 07:11

      @rashthami by insulting the people that replied to your comment you are showing the massive chip on your shoulder. This case was about two men (race and color regardless) that was high on drugs killing four children, maiming two more and never showing any remorse. So why do you bring race into it, why bring old cases into it, why try and negate the pain and suffering caused by these two men (again disregard the race)? While we in SA keep playing the race card and living in the past we cannot move forward. For me I am happy about the judgement, for the first time in a long time I have faith in our justice system. And in regards to the old cases with questionable outcomes, this judgement shows that we might just be moving back towards a justice system where the punishment is in relation to the crime.

  • gail.rieck.9 - 2012-10-16 18:32

    No bail should be for ALL murderers and rapists!!!

  • simon.selahla - 2012-10-16 18:35

    Can somebody give that Magistrate a BELLS!!!!

  • ft.burhaak - 2012-10-16 18:36

    This is a sad loss .Really sorry for the parents.But if he was high is'nt that temporary insanity,im not justifying it.

      thabo.m.buck - 2012-10-16 18:52

      Go nd represent him nd c if da judge smokes crack too..mxm

  • hengu.willemse - 2012-10-16 18:39

    PRETORIA Magistrates court and PRETORIA North, not "Protea" :P

      Gatvol Griet - 2012-10-16 18:50

      No Protea you dork.

      adrian.strydom - 2012-10-16 18:57

      Protea !!! Don't prove what an idiot you are, please !!

      aphindas - 2012-10-16 19:00

      Eish I would hav shut my trap if I were u its protea not pretoria idoit

  • thunder.clap.587 - 2012-10-16 18:39

    Loosing virginity tonite

      kay.tene - 2012-10-16 19:05

      Thunder lol. I fear. •Jesus hides•

      kay.tene - 2012-10-16 19:06

      Thunder lol. I fear. •Jesus hides•

  • goodguy.buthelezi - 2012-10-16 18:42

    I guesss you have 1 option Mr Jubs Jubs.. Medical parole buddy

  • andy.andrews.359126 - 2012-10-16 18:46

    They will be having boerie tonight lots of. Lol

      zolasiyabulela.nyiki - 2012-10-17 06:52

      Its just not cool when things happen just in a blink of an human beings eyes..sure it wasn't their intentions to do all that..all they wanted was fun its just too bad that that fun came back n haunted them..

      Leon Mungoni - 2012-10-19 17:13

      As for me this two guys must Stay in jail for their Rest of life

  • johanes.ntoagae - 2012-10-16 18:52

    it is 2late 2 apologise,,sad,,i chose te side of justice,,

  • johanes.ntoagae - 2012-10-16 18:55

    it is 2late 2 apologise,,sad,,i chose te side of justice,,

  • bernardandrew.ndlovu - 2012-10-16 18:56

    Fair enough

  • Cappuccinno4u - 2012-10-16 18:59

    Jail is a place for Criminals.. this young lads are no criminals.. Its just unfortunate that a celebrity is involved in this unfortunate incident.. We all do mistakes whatsoever without knwing whats goin to happen next.. People drink and drive all the time and that doesnt mean dey r by far better.. Every1 has their own mishap waiting in the unknwn time.. There is no FORMULA for JAIL.. U may be next who knws.. ACCIDENTS happens alllllllll the time people.. I feel sorry for this chaps..

      ft.burhaak - 2012-10-16 19:04

      @cappuccino.I think you right.Lots of people drive under intoxication,but they just lucky that they get away.

      kay.tene - 2012-10-16 19:13

      I agree. It might happen to anyone. Amen uve said it all •touched iam•. Blessed you are

      BossTPlaya - 2012-10-16 19:18

      I agree with and I pray for everyone involved in this saga including JubJub and his friend so that everyone can find closure but when u've commited that mistake and u dont say I'm sorry u say 'I'm not guilty' then we find out ur indeed guilty after we prove what must we do? This should be a lesson to all of us to learn to accept we r guilty and forgive each other. In my own account I forgive them.

      logical007 - 2012-10-16 19:25

      But then they should HAVE BEEN HONEST AND admitted to the accident.. These two clowns were Drugged on coke and who knows what else, alcohol (not good mix) and driving high speed in a 60 zone. Then disputed the whole saga for 2 yrs??? If they had apologised initially showed remorse to family of deceased, never tried to be smart asses and 'pick' state witnesses apart for 2yrs, maybe verdict would have been more in their favour

      ft.burhaak - 2012-10-16 19:39

      @logical007.Yes,thats true,maybe when people are afraid and desperate they will try anything .

      lownabester - 2012-10-16 20:41

      I dont, they are spoilt brats.

  • tshego.nkoana - 2012-10-16 19:07

    JUSTICE!!!

  • kay.tene - 2012-10-16 19:09

    Jub jub,will be strong he knows God. For those children, again I say may their souls R•I•P, for the Families of the children I say take heart YES ain't easy to accept a sudden Dearth. It is well with yall soul. Psalm 125 to the families.

  • kay.tene - 2012-10-16 19:09

    Jub jub,will be strong he knows God. For those children, again I say may their souls R•I•P, for the Families of the children I say take heart YES ain't easy to accept a sudden Dearth. It is well with yall soul. Psalm 125 to the families.

  • samantha.5243 - 2012-10-16 19:13

    It amazes me how people are defending these 2 idiots!\r\n1- they were racing in a residential area, a busy road while high on drugs and drunk\r\n2- they didn't take ANY responsibility for their actions, instead they tried every low trick to get away with it, which is a slap in the face of the parents who lost their children that day.\r\n3- they thought that just because they r celebrities and know people in high places they will get away with it.\r\n4- its only NOW that they have been found guilty that they suddenly feel bad. Too little too late.\r\n\r\nIf you are defending these two then there is seriously something wrong with you!

      tenyeko.maswanganye - 2012-10-16 19:48

      U r ryt samantha wat they r did was wrong

      kay.tene - 2012-10-16 20:12

      Well spoken there dear. I agree again with yoU

  • peter.meyer.39794895 - 2012-10-17 07:10

    I whould like to know what time this accident happened?peter Pan.

  • arthur.salvado - 2012-10-17 07:44

    Drink and drive at your peril. If you have an accident and someone is killed, it's MURDER. Quite right and so it should be. Of course, theres always a bribe to pay. Maybe R20 , maybe R 2000 . Life is cheap in this beautiful country of ours.

  • Hemlock - 2012-10-17 08:12

    Give this Judge a Bells

  • dragonfire47 - 2012-10-17 09:24

    i still cant get over the moron that phoned into 702 yesterday on Jenny's show and said the kids should have gotten out of the way, i dont even think malema is that stupid, oh wait I take that back, 'birds of a feather flock together' MORONS

  • nkululeko.zuma.52 - 2012-10-17 09:51

    They are guilty, they must accept that and just pay the price, pleading innocent is the worse thing they are doing, because, everybody knows that due to their "actions", innocent school children lost their lives, and some seriously injured. I really don't see any reason why they were pleading innocent on this.

  • mashilopm - 2012-10-17 10:08

    Hello Brice Moon! You are next.

  • bongani.mthembu.7 - 2012-10-17 12:14

    You are so harsh on the poor boy, if I were you, I'd pray that what happened to Jub Jub and those kids, does not happen to my family. If you dont drink and drive good. But the next worst thing can still happen with similar consequences as JubJub. This is life and it has a funny way of teaching us a lesson.

      azola.a.ntsaluba - 2012-10-18 09:57

      I wonder if you would have the same response if you were in jub jub shoes .

  • joanne.cordeiro.5 - 2012-10-19 10:55

    @Gerhard Vermuelen. You are an idiot. They killed four innocent children - those children are DEAD, their families will NEVER EVER see them again. MORON! and you ask how will this help them and society. Well it will keep them off the road for one, give the parents of the deceased some comfort and hopefully will teach those idiots a lesson.

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