Lazarus pill miracle for E Cape man

2012-09-09 16:45

Johannesburg - If miracles exist, Ayanda Nqinana may just have swallowed one.

After reading a report in City Press last month, his wife, Nomfundo, insisted that he be given a prescription for the sleeping pill Stilnox, which has the opposite effect on those with brain injuries.

It worked – and brought him out of a seven-year coma.

Nqinana had been the Peddie Municipality’s director of local development before a late-night car crash on a lonely Eastern Cape road in 2005 almost ended his life.

The accident tore him from his wife and their 2-year old son, Ayavuya, and left him with severe brain injuries, a fractured hip and legs, and unable to talk, leave his bed or feed himself.

For the past seven years, Nomfundo has visited her husband in East London’s Newhaven Hospital, hoping for signs that the man she had known before the accident was still inside his body.

“His eyes, he couldn’t follow any direction. For instance, if you were talking to him, even if you move from this angle to that angle, he doesn’t follow you. He couldn’t talk. Not at all,” she said.

Nqinana’s doctors said he’d probably remain that way.

Miracle recovery

But on August 12, family friend Nceba Mokoena came across an article in City Press about a miracle recovery made by another car crash victim, hundreds of kilometres away in Gauteng.

Louis Viljoen was given the sleeping pill by chance by his mother, Sienie.

She had noticed he wasn’t sleeping peacefully and asked her doctor if she could give him half a sleeping tablet. After she did, Louis opened his eyes and said “Hello Mamma”, his first words in five years.

Nceba phoned Nomfundo immediately to ask if she had seen the story, and whether or not Stilnox might just help her husband.

Initially, Ayanda’s doctor was not convinced, telling her not to place too much faith in newspaper reports. But Nomfundo insisted.

“Because I’ve been praying a lot for my husband to get better, I can try anything that is possible for his health. So eventually we agreed to get a prescription.”

They began giving Ayanda the drug, and waited to see what would happen. Five days passed with no improvement.

“The date was August 29. I received a call from Newhaven saying, ‘Is it possible for you, Mrs Nqinana, to come in on your way back from Bhisho’ – on my way back from work – ‘and see us?’ because my husband was talking,” she said.

Hospital abuzz

She rushed there and found the hospital abuzz. Nurses rushed to call her to her husband’s room and followed her inside.

“The first thing that he said to me, in Xhosa, was ‘Are you here? They called you to come here?’ I couldn’t believe it. I just took a chair and sat down.”

Not only had he recovered enough to talk, but he remembered his family and was able to hold a conversation.

He asked his wife where she was working, and how she managed her daily commute between East London and Bhisho.

“I was so amazed, and the tears were just falling, falling all over my cheeks. I couldn’t believe that Ayanda was talking,” she said.

Since then, he has regained much of his awareness and has caught up on years of lost memories. He also holds long conversations with his now 9-year-old son.

Wasted muscles

As soon as he regains enough strength in his wasted muscles, Ayanda will be able to fulfil his son’s greatest wish, and come home.

The growing number of comatose patients transformed by Stilnox has not escaped the notice of the provincial department of health.

Dr Siva Pillay, head of the Eastern Cape health department, said that they were aware of Ayanda and Louis’ cases, and that policies for using the drug more widely were now being formulated.

  • arthur.hugh - 2012-09-09 17:07

    That's pretty darn awesome.

      johan.jacobs.5680 - 2012-09-09 17:24

      It is well documented in medical circles.

      jaded.oldfart - 2012-09-09 21:52

      zaatheist: you & i agree on most things, but just like i dislike people thanking and praising god inappropriately, there is no need for you to raise the opposing subject at the wrong time either. there is a time and a place, and this is not it. sorry, bro' but knee-jerk reaction is equally annoying from both sides of the spectrum. just be glad the guy is recovering...

      rian.dejager.3 - 2012-09-10 00:17

      @zaatheist you are such a CHOMP... I see you are still at it. You really are a disgrace... a sad case. For this wife, who prayed for it, her prayers was answered.

      butters - 2012-09-10 02:25

      @rian.dejager.3 People still believe in god? I had finally thought that as a race we had finally moved passed that.

      ross.hampton.cole - 2012-09-10 06:52

      I think some of my staff should take this medicine

      Carla - 2012-09-10 07:19

      And people believe pharma companies are only out to make money. Drugs we develop save's lives!!!

      pieter0827006294 - 2012-09-10 07:57

      WARNING: The rest of the collumn and comments are so cluttered with zaatheists negative comments that its not worth reading! I think it qualifies as SPAM!

      lydonmcg - 2012-09-10 10:58

      I find it hilariously ironic when atheists get all preachy.

      dakey.ras.73 - 2012-09-10 11:10

      Of Course Zaatheist feels the NEED to respond. A woman who prayed a lot for the recovery of her husband and then actually did the opposite of science, i.e what some medication was meant to do, can not possible call this a miracle right? It is the woman's prerogative to believe what she wishes to believe and to praise God if she so wishes. God + Science = Man out of coma. Let's celebrate this miracle instead of bicker about the usual religious non-sense we usually get on News24. It would be great if this medicine can have similar results on other people in a coma.

      dimitripappas - 2012-09-10 11:34

      Sorry to persist in thread derailment, but for what it's worth, butter,s there's NOTHING atheist about me. Unlike you, I'm aware of historical fact: Jesus Christ rose from the dead 3 days following his crucifixion for blasphemy as a saving redemption for the sin of humanity. You don't have to believe it, but then again there's a whole lot of people that don't believe Neil Armstrong set foot on the moon either... I personally pity people with such scepticism akin to how I pity those with other diseases.

      maltacular.zinj - 2012-09-10 12:35

      @eltorro Thanx for the heads up bro. I will not even scroll down anymore.

      zithelozeeyonce.mnguni - 2012-09-10 13:59

      Anything comment by Zaatheist i just dislike without reading. Ping thumbs down

      fazlurahman.ahmed - 2012-09-10 14:02

      @zaatheist, It's GOD will that give all the people the abillity to do good and discover new things. It's also HIS will to let u live and cement the people's believe in religion more than you can imagine.

      ButcherBrian - 2012-09-10 22:12

      @zaatheist All i ask for is respect. Can you do that, or cant you do that? if you cant, than your an idiot. bye

      justin.andrews.522 - 2012-09-11 07:58

      Simple solution to people like Zaatheist. bombard his facebook page, and all the people he is friends with, telling them what an idiot he is. I'm not religious, but I can appreciate the fact that some are. I don't make it my life's mission to disprove any religious argument. It it peoples choices, just like it is your choice Zaatheist to not believe. You're just an idiot to everyone here. So shut up and accept other people's opinions and beliefs.

      peter.swale.9 - 2012-09-11 13:43

      Give that pill a bells!

      chilli.stephenson1 - 2012-09-11 13:45

      Zaatheist is only pissed off with God because he had cancer at one stage. He doesnt even realize that God allowed him to recover, even though God knew zaatheist would hate Him and pull His name through the mud. It's sad when people become so bitter that they are unable to appreciate God's Love, Mercy and Grace! Don't you think?

      kyle.atcheson.10 - 2012-09-11 14:44

      If god miraculously cured this man of his 7 year coma, then it was god who put this man into a 7 year coma and allowed his wife to suffer 7 years at his bedside. This god guy sounds like a total douche to me. Praise Stilnox!

  • keith.gough - 2012-09-09 17:24

    Miraculous, what a brave woman to sit with him for 7 years with hope in her heart.

      joubert.joep - 2012-09-10 04:48

      What a woman!

      merven.halo - 2012-09-10 19:48

      Shame, wonder what their medical bill is after 7 years? Maybe people should start a fund for him.

      chilli.stephenson1 - 2012-09-11 13:48

      Telling me. I agree. That is an amazing wife. She has the strongest faith in God i have ever seen. Awesome! Just awesome! Thank God for this Miracle.

  • arthur.salvado - 2012-09-09 17:28

    Let's get this properly documented and know to all medical facilities. Problem is that someone in government will work an angle whereby millions will be made by some officials. Watch the news

  • pieter0827006294 - 2012-09-09 17:37

    Wow, what a refreshing change to hear some good news on this site. I hope Mr. Nqinana keeps improving from here on. May God be with you!

      NkululekoMhlaba - 2012-09-09 21:17

      Eltoro we believe in God and that is our right as it is Zaatheist right not to believe in God but what I don't understand is the intolerance that Zaatheist has towards those who believe maybe he/ she is longs to have Hope because what he/she believes in ( which is not believing in anything). There is a saying that those who stand for nothing attack everything for they have no belief worth protecting, I cry for people like that. We give God all the Glory

      koo.doyle - 2012-09-10 07:00

      zaatheist you really are a tool. Learn a little tolerance and respect. No one is asking you to believe in god, but since you are hardly the arbiter of what does and doesn't exist, allow people to follow their beliefs without being rude and bullying. The only person making a fool of themselves here is you.

      pieter0827006294 - 2012-09-10 07:24

      Typical! Why someone would like to thumbs down a good intention. Its not about the person for them. My God is a god of love. Zaatheist displays exactly the opposite. Lets not forget that these scientists did not intentionally develop a drug to reverse the effects of brain damage, but it was purely by "accident"(Stillnox is a sleeping tablet).

      CronjeJC - 2012-09-10 08:09

      zaatheist, The effect of this drug on comatose patients was an accidental discovery. Not much science there mate, perhaps it was Divine intervention after all. Why are you so hatefull??

      pieter0827006294 - 2012-09-10 08:45

      Zaatheist, you are the one trying to debate it! Unlike you, I have no intention of converting your beliefs!

      aeon.lamour - 2012-09-10 09:00

      zaatheist... point proven. I call you an idiot and you quote the Bible. Riiiiight.... Since you 'hate' religion so much, I take it you are the disgruntled son of a pastor or something coz you sure like quoting the Bible for someone who believes otherwise. Shame man. We all pity you in your little world. It must be very dark and lonely where you are.. Shame man, we'll pray for you... OK sweetie?

      leon.puth - 2012-09-10 09:26

      @Zaatheist. you must hate that your name is Godfrey ("God-peace. A saint's name") you clearly feel the need to point out how wrong religion is, in fact, you childishly have to hammer it in.

      koo.doyle - 2012-09-10 10:56

      zaatheist your comment operates on the premise that I am a christian. I am not. I merely believe that we should be tolerant of others' beliefs, instead of being a rude insulting idiot. You are free to believe as you choose, but stuffing your beliefs down other peoples' throats, makes you no better than a jehovah's witness relentlessly pushing your doorbell at 8am on a weekend morning. Live and let live.

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-09-10 12:41

      NotYetUhuru. Me too, I can't understand the intolerance and I can't understand why this have to be a God argument again. If you belief fine, if you don't that is also fine. Be glad that this person is where he is at the moment and keep your religious or anti religious believes to yourself. They are bloody boring.

      RodinsThinker - 2012-09-10 13:11

      @koo.doyle - that's precisely the issue. How about we respect the professionals who created this drug that has such a wonderful effect? Sure it was "just" a sleeping tablet - but it was pharmacological research that brought it to us. Doctors and nurses get this regularly - they spend years working long hours with little sleep so that they can deliver life-saving services to their fellow man and woman, and when they do, someone else gets the credit. It's not a god-made miracle - just a fantastically fortuitous discovery. Get real, people.

      dakey.ras.73 - 2012-09-10 13:17

      @Zaatheist Keep your views to the 'religious' threads please. You seem hopelessly out of sync with normal discussion.

      koo.doyle - 2012-09-10 14:06

      One does not preclude the other @Thinker. However, jumping down the throat of those who believe in god, and wish to thank god and pass on blessings is a douchey thing to do. How about looking at the sentiment being expressed instead of using this site as a platform to push your own agenda. HTF does someone believing in god affect you, or indeed how is it ANY of your business. Tolerance and respect are key here, from both sides.

      koo.doyle - 2012-09-10 14:11

      AND another thing @ Thinker, the pharmaceutical companies are not in the game for the praise or the thanks. The millions of dollars they make before a drug goes off patent is why they're in the business.

      dakey.ras.73 - 2012-09-10 14:17

      @RThinker The drug was designed to put people to sleep, not wake them up from a coma. You don't have to thank God for this miracle. It is not you, nor your husband or father that experienced this miracle. Let the rest of us celebrate this amazing event while you go back to creating a dedicated News24 article telling everyone how there is no God. But please, don't hijack someone else's article only to insist there is no God, that's just pathetic.

      RodinsThinker - 2012-09-10 14:40

      @koo.doyle: look at the title of the article.... "Lazarus"? "Miracle"? This was written by a journalist, and I'm sure these words were used in their figurative sense. Believers are placing literal meaning onto them - and you're claiming we're setting the agenda here? I think not... Make no mistake, this is a wonderful story. But a miracle it is not. When Christians force their beliefs into a public arena in this way, we simply take them to task. You would do the same in respect of any beliefs you don't agree with. And that's what the public forum is for.

      koo.doyle - 2012-09-10 14:53

      Perhaps @ Thinker, you are taking it too literally. 'Miracle' is a blanket terms we use to describe amazing and highly improbable events. I don't see any Christian agenda being pushed here. If people want to thank a higher power, let them ffs. I fail to see how that detracts from the story or the sentiment. However, being an ass about it, to those who choose to believe in divine intervention, does detract.

      RodinsThinker - 2012-09-10 14:55

      @koo.doyle: "HTF does someone believing in god affect you, or indeed how is it ANY of your business." Firstly, go and read - that'll give you a few pointers. Secondly, given the poor levels of education in SA, I would like to see the more educated people demonstrating a decent level of discourse and logic on open fora. Calling an event like this an actual miracle - and folks on the forum today are insistent on this - is a blatant inaccuracy and untruth. You need to differentiate between literal and figurative language, which is a basic linguistic skill. In addition, it ignores the nonsense that it breeds if you consider the thoughts that follow. If this was a miracle that an all-loving God performed because of a caring wife's prayers, was that god otherwise set on allowing the man's suffering to continue? Was He permitting the suffering just to provide an opportunity for the woman to prove her faith? Where was He when the man went into the coma? Why did He allow the original awful accident in the first place? So if you think this through just a little bit, all sorts of problems arise with the statement. I and others just want to be sure that folks know what they're actually saying in public fora - a bit like advertising standards, really. Giving people hope for miracles is a dangerous thing - to the extent that they even avoid lifesaving medical treatment. You are simply perpetuating that mythology.

      RodinsThinker - 2012-09-10 15:38

      @koo.doyle: I didn't say it was a conscious Christian agenda. It's become such a part of the rhetorical furniture that even an intelligent person like you just accepts it. Atheists are just saying "hang on a minute, now"... religions get an easy time of it because their claimed right to assert their ideas is simply accepted with no questions asked. But their ideas are absurd, and some of us aren't having it. And hey - it's not as if zaatheist is a Westboro Baptist freak, he's hardly sunk that low!

      ANatale92 - 2012-09-10 16:33

      Alright, I'm going to put this all to rest here. I have an extensive background in neuroscience and have several PHD's. I've specifically worked with this sleeping medication on several occasions and have never found any correlation to neuron activity. Zolpidem,or stilnox has not adequately demonstrated effectiveness in maintaining sleep, however, it is effective in initiating sleep. It has a sort of hypnotic effect on the patient, but has no lasting effect on brain activity, and doesn't contain anything that would cause this to happen. So in layman's terms, scientists' hands are tied. We can't make heads or tails of something like this. As far as your religion goes, I guess anything is really possible under the right constraints. I'm not saying it was a higher being that caused this to happen, it's just that our scientific methods can't refute that as a distinct possibility.

      koo.doyle - 2012-09-11 07:04

      Thinker, you can hardly equate forum comments with advertising standards. I do NOT agree that people believing this to be a miracle is harmful. You talk of christians forcing their beliefs here, but isn't that exactly what YOU are doing? Why not let those that want to, believe in their miracles, and let those that believe in science do so. People have believed in god from time immemorial. Your insistence that there is no higher power is not going to change that. Moreover, the belief in god has created some of the most amazing art and music and architecture. Its not a bad thing to believe in something bigger and better than ourselves, after all, there is so much wonder in the world that cannot just be chalked up to science. At the end of the day, if you wish people not to push their own agenda, how can you push yours so aggressively? Respect and tolerance.

      RodinsThinker - 2012-09-11 08:05

      @koo.doyle: "Thinker, you can hardly equate forum comments with advertising standards. I do NOT agree that people believing this to be a miracle is harmful". Well, I could say that's just your opinion and walk away. The thing is, how can we know what's going on in people's heads? If you spend time on the N24 forum, you'll see for yourself what ludicrous ideas the very religious come up with. All we're doing is providing a disclaimer on their behalf. The impact of this kind of thinking is subtle and far-reaching - education, legislation, women's rights, male and female circumcision, child marriage and more. Many of these folks are the ones asserting that Noah squeezed a pair from every species of animal in creation onto a wooden ship the size of a big canal barge, had enough food to feed them for over a year, stopped the carnivores from wiping out the rest (he somehow made them go vegetarian) - and these included all the dinosaurs. And they want to teach this stuff in schools as fact. It might strike you as in poor taste - and I understand that - but issues of religion and belief have enjoyed a protection from rational scrutiny that is simply not justified. I and others have no problem with religion being practised in the privacy of people's homes and churches, but brought into the public arena they are as open to criticism as any illusions propagated by politicians.

      RodinsThinker - 2012-09-11 08:15

      @koo.doyle: "At the end of the day, if you wish people not to push their own agenda, how can you push yours so aggressively?". Bit of a chicken-and-egg situation here... I'd say the atheist "agenda" only looks so high-profile because it's relatively new. Atheists don't have phrases that have become part of our language - God forbid, heaven forfend, stinks up to high heaven, O-M-G, God help us, the Devil's in the details, and you are an angel; not to mention all the curses. So the religious have had something of a monopoly on our culture for several thousand years, I guess it's natural that we might seem like the new kids on the block. It's not that we want this kind of language out. You're right, religion and its aspirations have led to great art etc. I'm just keen that people understand what they're saying when they say it, and more importantly what others mean by what they say. With the current flock of religious, you really can't tell when they're being blindingly literal or not, which is just the beginning of a particular type of cultural encroachment that neither you nor I would want to see.

      chilli.stephenson1 - 2012-09-11 13:49

      @NotYetUhuru Zaatheist is only pissed off with God because he had cancer at one stage. He doesnt even realize that God allowed him to recover, even though God knew zaatheist would hate Him and pull His name through the mud. It's sad when people become so bitter that they are unable to appreciate God's Love, Mercy and Grace! Don't you think?

  • lynda.pitcher.1 - 2012-09-09 17:38

    wow that is fantastic......took Stillnox myself for sleeping for years

      lionel.defrontignac - 2012-09-10 04:54

      A good heartwarming story; on a lighter note: maybe we should give our parliamentarians this drug to wake them out of their coma...

      chilli.stephenson1 - 2012-09-11 13:51

      @ Lionel.... bwhahahahaha. yeah. Good idea bro! LOL

  • hermann.hanekom - 2012-09-09 17:54

    How wonderful - some good news made the press. I wish the family only good luck from here onwards.

      Alien42063 - 2012-09-09 18:26

      Here here :D

      Alien42063 - 2012-09-09 19:27

      @zaatheist: lol my bad. I'm actually Afrikaans :P

      boltonbarry - 2012-09-09 21:05

      Zaatheist. Lonely little confused man speak

      leon.puth - 2012-09-10 09:39

      @zaatheist: your "about me" definition clearly leaves no space for others, thus no space for selfless religion. your tirades against religion is and attempt to selfishly justify who you are.

  • chule.qalase - 2012-09-09 18:01

    Wow!! Am just impressed by the love and dedication this lady had for her man. Now I believe true love really exist!

      aeon.lamour - 2012-09-10 08:45

      zaatheist. why don't you do us all a favour and go jump in a lake with some cement boots. It must be such a miserable life you have. All that anger you carry inside.. Please do not take it out on small animals. If you want to talk please call my offices on 0800-go-drown-yourself. To be in such a constant state of misery must drive you insane... So, how does that make you feel?..

  • draad.trekker.1 - 2012-09-09 18:10

    Goodness me. Wow!!!

  • ntoagaeodirile.ntoagae - 2012-09-09 19:36

    These days people are quick to dismiss a notion that Miracles do happen, stories like these bear testimony that YES INDEED MIRACLES DO HAPPEN, PRAISE BE TO THE MOST HIGH

  • Michelle Mimi van Zyl - 2012-09-09 19:39

    There are so many comments on here that saddens me. What has become of this country, our Morals and Values are long gone, we treat our fellow comrades with utter disrespect. It's fine to have your own opinion but why make it personal?

      Alien42063 - 2012-09-09 19:48

      What saddens me is that there are people that from being a child thinks "I want to be a doctor or medical scientist and help people". And then they create these wonderful medicines that do help people and no one even sends a thank you their way. If you were a cop...and you risk your own life to save someone else's...and they thank God only, and don't even say thanks to you for risking your life to save would you feel?

  • Jane Mdakane - 2012-09-09 19:46

    @zaatheist my word you are such a hater....I really feel sorry for you too!!!!!!

      rlong1952 - 2012-09-10 02:38

      Zaatheist, you have no clue what the Bible is talking about, a little knowledge is a dangerous thing. Try working on your personality and try to be nice, but then again I don't think you are capable of that. You must be such a joy to be around, NOT !!

      rlong1952 - 2012-09-10 05:39

      No, it is not ok zaatheist, we have freedom of speech and expression and therefore theists have just as much right here as you do. However, with those freedoms comes some sort of responsibility and more importantly, RESPECT for other people's opinions. You don't have to agree but you can respect the right to express your opinions without sinking to your low level of constant insults and belittling. You say everyone deserves respect but not all ideas do, but you don't deserve any respect because of the way you go about what you do. As I said before, you are a bitter, twisted individual and seem to lack even the most basic social skills. You hide behind your name on the internet and I seriously doubt if you have the courage to engage someone who has deep insight into the Bible and Christianity on a one to one, face to face situation. If you do, then how about doing that, I am sure the readers here or indeed myself can put you in touch with someone who would engage on that level.

      rlong1952 - 2012-09-10 07:16

      Ahhh.... zaatheist, shows you what you know about me and more particularly about Asia, we may not tell children about religion or atheism, so you don't have to worry you head about that. I still challenge you to have a face to face with someone but perhaps you are not up to that. So, just have the common decency to be nice and respect other people's opinions, vent your frustrations on the golf ball and try to be nice to all, it pays dividends, believe me

  • jacyjays.letsoalo - 2012-09-09 20:53

    What a heart rendering story, what interested me was the term \Lazarus Pill\ now after reading over again I realised it is derived from the miracle of the Bible! Eish, I guess I need to read my Bible a lot! May God bring strength to this woman and her family! May God grant them peace when they restart their lives again! He is the God of Mercy and miracles! He sends his messengers to do his Job!

      Leah - 2012-09-09 21:03

      Amen. God is good all the time

      Leah - 2012-09-10 07:43

      Morning ZA. Do you know that we tend to see in others that is familiar to ourselves? Talking about my so called depression etc. Do you see that because you are feeling it? I actually smiled when I read your comments. Why? Easy. God is real and He is alive. He even loves you. Only you would use the mainstream media for your anti-God tirades. Have a good day and God Bless

      Leah - 2012-09-10 09:40

      Hi Za. Of course you have a sadistic streak. A wide one at that. At least one thing we can agree on :). Now have a nice day and remember: Jesus loves you

      Leah - 2012-09-10 12:06

      Of cos Jesus loves you more ZA. You need it more than what I do. Be blessed and safe

      derek.wright.7370 - 2012-09-10 15:07

      I wish i could say God is good all the time to a dear friend of mine who is dying of cancer, a lovely, kind person.

      Leah - 2012-09-10 15:42

      Derek, I so wish I had the right words to comfort you. I feel whatever I say will be the wrong thing. All I can say is; I feel for you and your friend. I pray it will get better for you both.

      Leah - 2012-09-10 15:46

      ZA, I know by now that you are incorrigible. Anything I say, will be used against me. But, humour me, or maybe I will humour you. What was I supposed to feel?

      Leah - 2012-09-10 15:48

      As a matter of interest ZA, why did you delete your previous comments?

  • johan.jacobs.5680 - 2012-09-09 21:08

    zaatheist; Youv'e got a lot hard bark on you mister.

      NkululekoMhlaba - 2012-09-10 07:40

      Hi John don't give Zaatheist the time of the day, people like him/Her are attention seekers and your discussion Will nof make you a better person. We believe in our God, The Holy Spirit and our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ of Nazareth born of virgin Mary and no one (Including those that shout and insult us) can take thati away from us. Don't defend God he doesn't need our protection.

  • charmaine.paterson1 - 2012-09-09 21:09

    I am so glad for this dedicated woman, she continued to visit her husband for so many years, I wish the family everything of the best.

  • johan.jacobs.5680 - 2012-09-09 21:26

    Zaatheist. Good night Stephen. P.S related to famous Springbok flanker in the 50's

      Alien42063 - 2012-09-09 21:43

      I'm trying to follow the conversation between you and Zaatheist...what are you saying here? Zaatheists' real name is Stephen...and then you sound like you are either bragging that you are related to a Rugby player from 60 years ago...or saying this Stephen person is a relative of the rugby player or what? Or Someone was related to a Rugby player until the 50's...but not since then...huh?

  • Thobs16 - 2012-09-09 21:29

    Amazing story!

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  • jonathan.hamilton1 - 2012-09-10 01:14

    @rian.dejager.3 You are the only "CHOMP" here. She 'prayed' for 7 years and nothing happened. She then applied science, and Guess what? It worked. I dare you to give me evidence of anything in religion that wasn't in the bible (purely fiction) 'working'.

      patrick.wood.982 - 2012-09-10 05:54

      "she then applied science". So she hired a team of scientists to perform in-depth studies and establish a treatment? She threw the bible out the window and denounced God? Or did she stumble across an article wherein a random accidental dosage of a certain drug had unexpected results? You know the answer.

  • zohaib.khairi - 2012-09-10 02:24

    damn this made me cry, now i look like this

  • patrick.wood.982 - 2012-09-10 02:27

    Random, unrelated person gives a sleeping pill to a different comatose patient and they revive. Story hits the papers and the person in the article gives it a go after praying for a recovery and never giving up on the one she loves. VICTORY FOR SCIENCE!

  • timcatron - 2012-09-10 02:40

    That's pretty freaking amazing if you ask me.

  • durrherpderp - 2012-09-10 02:47

    @zaatheist Just pretend for a moment that the victims were reading these comments. I know you wouldn't continue to be disrespectful towards them. You hide behind anonymity and feel superior, it's disgusting.

  • piet.strydom - 2012-09-10 03:16

    @ZAatheist - Why don't you quote us some more of your ridiculous Swedish rape statistics?

      derek.wright.7370 - 2012-09-10 16:27

      I enjoy your comments Zaatheist, but without being too pedantic Sweden is regarded as part of Scandanavia ( Norway, Sweden, Denmark, not sure about finland)

  • ashawwal - 2012-09-10 03:48

    @zaatheist By posting replies on nearly every comment, bashing others on their religious views, and trying to shove your atheism in other peoples throats makes you the same as any religious missionary. Talk about irony.

  • bronwyngrobler - 2012-09-10 04:34

    What a beautiful story, awesome-ness! Anything is possible when you believe.

      RodinsThinker - 2012-09-10 13:23

      It had nothing to do with belief, Bronwyn. It's a truly wonderful thing that happened here, but it would never have happened without the pharmacologists...

  • strandloop - 2012-09-10 04:41

    Doctors don't always use what they know...this has been well-documented. There was no reason to let the man stay in the coma so long without trying. Shame on the medical profession. Blessings to the man and his family. \

  • ButcherBrian - 2012-09-10 04:43

    @butters the race is much deeper than you think

  • ButcherBrian - 2012-09-10 05:58

    @zaatheist the answer to your question is yes. I do believe in Christianity. Strongly. Simply put, its a guide for those who wish to use it. If you want to use it, great and if not, thats fine too.

      Victor - 2012-09-10 09:57

      @zaatheist deleted his comment above mine.

      Victor - 2012-09-10 12:12

      I am not spreading falsehoods. I never stated that you are a homosexual. What was written above in quotation marks was your statement. It sounds identical to what religious zealots say when they are intolerant of Homosexuals. Your intolerance is identical to that of the people you despise. This does not help you or your cause.

      Victor - 2012-09-10 12:44

      "why mention it as it has nothing to do with the article" Because your methods dwindle your credibility. They are hypocritical and are the same tactics used by the people you and I disdain.

  • kyle.buitendag - 2012-09-10 07:47

    What a supa story to read on a Monday morning!! makes me all warm and fuzzy, Nice one guys, i hope he makes a full and healthy recovery.

  • maxndaba - 2012-09-10 07:51

    Wow, the woman stood by her husband for 7 years(hopefully)...Its very rare for that to happen these days..

  • Victor - 2012-09-10 07:58

    It’s odd that the word atheist even exists. I don’t play golf. Is there a word for non-golf players? Do non-golf players gather and strategize? Do non-skiers have a word and come together and talk about the fact that they don’t ski? I don’t—I can’t do that. I can’t gather around and talk about how much everybody in the room doesn’t believe in God. I just don’t—I don’t have the energy for that.

      rlong1952 - 2012-09-10 08:19

      Well put Victor, it blows my mind that these so-called non-believers spend so much time trying to disprove and insult that which they don't believe in. I don't believe in zombies and film makers love making films about them. Do I spend my precious time ranting and raving and trying to disprove the existence of zombies? Nope, got better things to do with my time and hey, if someone wants to believe in zombies and writes it in every newspaper and hires a sky-writing company to declare it, so what? It is up to them, doesn't bother me.

      Victor - 2012-09-10 08:58

      @zaatheist As limited human beings, we do not possess the type of knowledge that will provide us with absolute proof of God’s existence or nonexistence. Outside of the knowledge of our own existence (I know I exist because I have to exist in order to ponder the question), we deal in the realm of probability. Whatever we’ve concluded about the existence of God, it’s always possible that the opposite conclusion is true.

      Victor - 2012-09-10 09:50

      The less evidence you have for your position, the more faith you need to believe it (and vice versa). Faith covers a gap in knowledge. And it turns out that atheists have bigger gaps in knowledge because they have far less evidence for their beliefs than Christians have for theirs. In other words, the empirical, forensic, and philosophical evidence strongly supports conclusions consistent with Christianity and inconsistent with atheism.

      Victor - 2012-09-10 12:20

      @zaatheist "Oh dear Victor. Faith has nor value." It requires faith to be an atheist . The faith of the atheist is violated by the discovery that the world had a beginning under conditions in which the known laws of physics are not valid, and are a product of forces or circumstances we cannot discover. If you were to truly examine these implications we could have a mutually beneficial discussion.

      Victor - 2012-09-10 12:53

      @zaathiest "Atheism simply asserts that there is no god; it has no philosophy" Arguments for and against the existence of God have been proposed by philosophers for thousands of years. Even skeptics have faith. They have faith that skepticism is true. Likewise, agnostics have faith that agnosticism is true. There are no neutral positions when it comes to beliefs. One who claims to be a skeptic of one set of beliefs is actually a true believer in another set of beliefs. Atheists, who are naturally skeptical of Christianity, turn out to be true believers in atheism.

      Victor - 2012-09-11 02:05

      I provide reason and logic behind my statements. Simple really.

  • jarodmellor - 2012-09-10 08:28

    Commented "I didn't sleep too well, felt like people kept coming into my room and talking to me while I was sleeping."

  • liz.ceruti - 2012-09-10 08:47

    A Miracle Drug !!!

  • Ryan - 2012-09-10 08:57

    Good show Nice to see a happy story once in a while.

  • yoko.papu - 2012-09-10 09:12

    Typical of some people to turn someone's joy into a misery they are entangled in. Remember, this is a story about a man who woke up from a 7 year coma and that by any standard is magnificent. your non-belief in God has absolutely nothing to do with this story. the woman who was going through this hell is now praising the God she believes in& even that is a problem for some who dont believe in God. I for one am a fanatic, bordering on obsession with God and I will shout in the streets and tell anyone who cares to listen about Jesus if you dont like it, well that is your problem, go hide or create your won world where the rules will be yours and yours alone, for now, take it with a sheepish look...

      Victor - 2012-09-10 12:02

      The scienti?c evidence overwhelmingly con?rms that the universe including all of it's components (space, time and matter) exploded into being out of nothing. Either someone created something out of nothing (the Christian view), or no one created something out of nothing (the atheistic view). Which view is more reasonable? The Christian view. Which view requires more faith? The atheistic view. There was no nature and there were no natural forces ontologically prior to the Big Bang—nature itself was created at the Big Bang. That means the cause of the universe must be something beyond nature—something we would call supernatural. It also means that the supernatural cause of the universe must at least be: spaceless because it created space timeless because it created time immaterial because it created matter powerful because it created out of nothing intelligent because the creation event and the universe was precisely designed personal because it made a choice to convert a state of nothing into something

      Victor - 2012-09-10 13:04

      @zaatheist "Because you do not understand science does not mean a god did it" Scientists who made Big-Bang-related discoveries also conclude that the evidence is consistent with the Biblical account. 1)Robert Wilson co-discoverer of the Radiation Afterglow, which won him a Noble Prize in Physics. "Certainly there was something that set it off. Certainly, if you’re religious, I can’t think of a better theory of the origin of the universe to match with Genesis." 2) George Smoot co-discoverer of the Great Galaxy Seeds which won him a Nobel Prize. "There is no doubt that a parallel exists between the Big Bang as an event and the Christian notion of creation from nothing" 3) Dr. Robert Jastrow director of the Mount Wilson observatory once led by Edwin Hubble “For the scientist who has lived by his faith in the power of reason, the story ends like a bad dream. He has scaled the mountains of ignorance; he is about to conquer the highest peak; as he pulls himself over the final rock, he is greeted by a band of theologians who have been sitting there for centuries.”

      RodinsThinker - 2012-09-10 13:28

      Yoko, it's one thing to call something miraculous in the sense of it being truly wonderful - which this incident is - but to say God did it? Please. Have you any idea how much research and expense, knowledge and experience went into developing that medication that's being written off as "just a sleeping pill"? Next time you have a terrible accident and just make it through in the ICU, think about who did the work for you...

      Victor - 2012-09-10 23:00

      I can see clearly you know nothing about modern science it seems as if you have a tenuous grasp of science in general. I have just given you the evidence you have requested spoken by the very scientists you claim to champion. Ironically I am the one who makes his living in the field of science and engineering and you are the one peddling nonsense on a South African message board. Once again I am offering you an opportunity to engage me on an intellectual level. I truly believe you are above childish drivel and are capable of putting together a defense for your atheistic faith as I have. Please prove me correct in this. We are currently talking about the existence of a theistic universe vs an atheistic universe. I have provided evidence for my position and you have done no such thing. All you have done is continued to evade me and childishly attack others. If you cannot defend your beliefs or at the very least counter my evidence everyone here will be forced to conclude you have failed in your attempt to harass and discredit those who believe in God.

  • mona.jafthas - 2012-09-10 10:34

    nice to read a happy ending story for a change!

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  • kobus.oelofse.3 - 2012-09-10 11:18

    very nice story , i hope the creator of this drug feels really good ^^, enjoy your day !

  • sheila.bart.71 - 2012-09-10 11:52

    @zaatheist - No matter how you slander, and what 'clever' arguments you cannot take down the TRUTH, EVER..Its not my truth or anyones, its THE TRUTH! JESUS IS ALIVE, SON OF GOD, REDEEMER OF MAN. 1 Corinthians 2:14 But a natural man does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually appraised - This is why you think all these things silly...Your creator has answered you... Romans 1:20 - For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse - Your reactions tell me that the truth is written in your heart... Phillipians 2:10 so that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth....This King, loves you and died for you! Bless you

  • sheila.bart.71 - 2012-09-10 12:11

    haha what a witty response! I do pray my excretement blesses you though! And I like that challenge...If you are brave enough, read a book called Mere Christianity by CS Lewis, who was also an atheist like yourself, a very intelligent man as well, and well in the book he pretty much answers all those very smart questions you have. Read it, and then answer back.

      RodinsThinker - 2012-09-10 13:30

      Sheila, if this was such a wonderful miracle from the magnanimous love of God, then WHAT WAS THIS POOR MAN DOING IN A COMA IN THE FIRST PLACE? Where was God when he really needed him? Or was it God's will that he and his family have had to suffer like they have? Thank (well, someone!) for science!

  • charlie.vanbergen - 2012-09-10 12:13

    Praise the Lord for giving people the wisdom to know and apply science in all its forms the way He created it.

  • shelley.vorster.9 - 2012-09-10 12:17

    Very nice - its a feel good story BUt I do have a question?? How come the doctors dont really know of this tablet ??

      shelley.vorster.9 - 2012-09-11 08:18

      @zaatheist - will you PLEASE stop ramming your christianity down peoples throats, its rather tiresome.... I am just happy for her that she now has her man back -

  • joao.r.oliveira1 - 2012-09-10 12:29

    Wow, unbelievable

  • faith.filled.9 - 2012-09-10 12:33

    Wow! I see zaatheist is on his mission for his religion of atheism! He is really pushing his religion of "no god". However, I doubt he sees that his tactics are working AGAINST his cause! LOL!

      matthew.ovendale.3 - 2012-09-10 14:25

      people will see the light. the more people speak and rely on intelligence, discourse and mutual love the more religion will fade into obscurity. people evolve, we always have and one day when those people that allow themselves and others to think, constructively criticize and mutually benefit from the joys of life well then religion will be show for what it is or in time what it was.

  • jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-09-10 12:35

    I just love miracles.

  • lasherza - 2012-09-10 12:42

    Are u kidding me?!!! nice story

  • johan.jacobs.5680 - 2012-09-10 12:46

    We lost the subject,it's becoming a vendetta know.Let's call it a day.

      Victor - 2012-09-11 06:46

      "Giving up are you. Most Xians do in the end." Tell that to the late Mr. Hitchens.

  • becky.jamieson1 - 2012-09-10 12:50

    I dont care what anybody else has to say! God you are amazing!! I am so lucky that I serve an almighty God!!

  • thando.ramncwana - 2012-09-10 12:55

    Awu Sukwini......the Lord is great, buya mfo sikhulise iNgqushwa.

  • stefan.kruger.1297 - 2012-09-10 13:01

    zaatheist!! WiNNING!!! =).. hahaha!! Awesome bud! good to see you working here! =)

      Victor - 2012-09-10 13:35

      Friedrich Nietzsche wrote, “If one were to prove this God of the Christians to us, we should be even less able to believe in him” and “It is our preference that decides against Christianity, not arguments.” You have given me the burden of proof and I have shared my arguments. Unfortunately it seems you are incapable of defending your beliefs intellectually. I understand your need for childish comments with others however I am offering you an opportunity to engage me on a intellectual level. Your evasion proves you are ill prepared. I do wish you the best as your are very passionate about your views however you are incorrect. I will return tomorrow when you are prepared.

      charmaine.hoffmann.1 - 2012-09-10 13:42

      You know, I read another comment somewhere...everyone is always praying for everyone out there, especially the sinners, so why is no one praying for the "devil" surely this sinner needs everyones prayers more than any person on earth...and God who is such a forgivinn God....why has he never forgiven this poor man (the devil) and given him the change of becoming born far all Christians have just condone the poor man instead of praying for him...not very Christian like I would say...doesnt it say in the Bible that everyone out their can get forgiveness...I mean...Really!? Please start praying for the "devil" he needs your prayers more than anyone!

      Victor - 2012-09-11 01:16

      At no time have I made any arguments that appeal to Revelation, Scripture, or Authority. I’ll make arguments based on reason alone. And I want to engage the argument on reason as you have requested. Perhaps you want me to fling the Bible at you so that you can then claim the high ground of science and reason (check previous comments). What flummoxes you is when I use science and reason itself to torpedo your childish comments.