Lonmin shooting inquiry 'may be judicial'

2012-08-18 22:31

Johannesburg - The commission of inquiry that is expected to investigate the shooting at Lonmin mine in Marikana which left 34 people dead may be a judicial one, Presidency spokesperson Mac Maharaj said on Saturday night.

"We are expecting President Jacob Zuma very soon to announce the nature of the commission and its terms of reference," he said.

"It is quite likely to be a judicial commission but that is my anticipation of the form it is likely to take."

He said Zuma was treating this as an urgent matter.

On Thursday, police opened fire on striking workers, some of them armed, on a hill while trying to disperse them after a week of violent protests.

The police ministry said 78 others were injured and 259 arrested.

Protesters were demanding higher wages.

On Friday, Zuma said the inquiry would uncover the truth of what had transpired at Marikana.

"It is against this background, that we have to uncover the truth about what happened here," he said.

"In this regard I have decided to institute a commision of inquiry. It will enable us to get to the real cause of the incident and to derive the necessary lessons today."

  • 777productions - 2012-08-18 22:37

    DISGUSTING SCENARIO to have happened !

      claudia.meads - 2012-08-18 23:21

      The real innocent victims will be the policemen who were simply defending their lives in a near impossible situation. It is transpiring that the police shooting incident was sparked by a mob (of about 50) who attacked what they thought was a lone white policeman. The policeman was busy shooting stun-grenades (as were a number of other policemen) when the mob started shooting at him and stormed him - he retreated rapidly towards the line of police behind him, the mob followed and stormed into the open, into a line of heavily armed police. With an ANC regime desperate for any red-herring to draw attention away from their gross incompetence, one fears the likelihood that this will be turned into a 'race-matter', the most. The leftist international news networks - eg CNN (aka the Communist News Network), have leapt at the chance to very selectively display footage that makes it look like white policemen, shooting black people. Little do they realise that their sensationalist inanities directly lead to the murder of innocent white people - eg grotesque farm murders, people brutally murdered in their homes, high-jacked, raped, etc. While the foreign journalists firmly clasp their passports, they jump on the plane back to their safe countries (like the USA and the UK - protected by the security of Western values), they leave a minority at the mercy a brutal monster.

      veldt66 - 2012-08-19 00:03

      Claudia useless person!! Just obsession with race.

      roger.hess.14 - 2012-08-19 03:03

      @Siyanda and @Velt66: Claudia has a much better grip on what is being portrayed internationally on this even then either of you do. Take a look at the following links to see how this is being discussed.

      philip.harris.967 - 2012-08-19 04:42

      Yes , Policemen were defending their lives ....but why the hell did they NEED to? These are striking workers .....not hardened criminals. They were on a mountainside in the bush ...on mine property. Why was it that there were HUNDREDS of heavily armed policemen lining up against these strikers? If you line up hundreds of Cops with automatic weapons ..facing hundreds of pi$$ed off strikers then is it ANY wonder you get a massacre? It is noted that the "defenders" of the Police action seem to come from one population group. The WRONG attitude still persists.

      pisciotta - 2012-08-19 05:39

      vedt. I can tell you in America, the videos I saw on national news were edited from the ones I saw on Youtube and shown on News24. But nevertheless the brief US news reports about this situation that I saw, reminded the audience that SA is now in the control of the majority (Black) and the majority of the Police are Black. This was not spun as a racial event equal to the likes of those events which occured during Apartheid.

      Andre - 2012-08-19 07:49

      The union bosses, especially NUM are to be blamed. Their agents/shop stewards/organizers forced the law abiding miners to join the strike by threatening them with death. They issued the miners who then turned up without weapons with the necessary weapons. They "organized" the sangoma who gave the miners muti and his blessing and ensured them that no harm would come their way. These are facts. There were a few newspaper reporters with the miners on the hill. The police set up a wire barricade at the bottom of the hill. Just before the attack, one of the union organizers told the to leave the area "before the blood flows". The reporters then withdrew from the presence of the miners when the fully armed miners started to rush from the side down to the police. The police opened fire on the charging armed miners. Only the ignorant can blame the police for their action in defending themselves. People who have never done military service but think they know everything!

      philip.harris.967 - 2012-08-19 09:16

      In a normal society , the Police would have stood off and adopted a non-confrontational stance. Thes strikers would have soon got sick of standing on a mountainside in the veld with no food or supplies...this would have fizzled away to nothing. Unfortunately , although the colour of the Govt. has changed ....the thick-headed attitudes of South Africans persists. Some one made a decision that they would 'sort out' these troublesome workers. A recipe for disaster. Both groups of south africans thoroughly deserve each other ...and the mess they are causing.

      claudia.meads - 2012-08-19 13:15

      philip.harris.967 All said and done the real (long lasting) victims will be SA's white minority. People by-and-large who had little to nothing to do with this incident, people who simply want to be economically active to the best of their abilities and receive a justified reward, to create a sustainable future for their children and theirs. People who did not ask to be born in SA, who did not ask for the color of their skins and most definitely not for their history. You see riots all over the world on TV, Internet, etc, but NOWHERE on earth are the protesters armed in the manner they are/were at Marikana. Eg one meter long pangas - there is no shield or helmet that will protect you against such weapons, notably when you are outnumbered 10:1 (if not more). You either use live ammunition or you die yourself - not a comfortable situation to be in. I am sick-and-tired of the way black people are always portrayed as the victims and whites as the perpetrators - it is the 20th/21st century equivalent of medieval heresy; in the dark ages people were burnt alive at the stake for (reasons as absurd as) having red hair, small bumps on their skins, etc. It is in principle no different to the ANC's quota system that banishes people to economic concentration camps of life-long hell. Eg SAA is so brazen about its racist quotas it simply programmed its computer to ignore white applicant (as pilot cadets). It quickly changed it when it came to light - a massive indictment in itself cont

      claudia.meads - 2012-08-19 13:16

      SAA will simply shift its brazen racism to its selection criteria; will make it impossible for white applicants to enter the training program, or to qualify – as with SA’s universities. I do not want to be on a flight were the pilot is the product of a massively compromised Affirmative Action program, or put my life in the hands of a surgeon from such a program – call me what you like, I don’t care, it is a choice that is my most fundamental human right. SA is an outright race war. A war not created by Apartheid – from nothing and in less than 5 decades (as the malicious portray) – it existed when white people arrived at the southern tip of Africa. Piet Retief approached Dingane in good faith and was totally unarmed, when he- and his party were murdered in a manner so brutal his peers could not even put it in words, in their accounts. He was made to watch his 13 yr old son being impaled… But this is Africa and none its realities are shown on CNN – rather selective material to give a skewed picture. White people in SA are being persecuted for simply being themselves – viz highly advanced pioneers. Their lineage walked on the moon, while Africa does not have its own written language, the wheel was never invented here (it arrived on three ships in the 17th century). In little over a hundred years they turned the interior of SA into one of the most advanced places in the known universe – for this they are being vilified and criminalized – I AM SORRY, NO MORE!

      jahoo.logner - 2012-08-19 13:33

      DO YOU WANT TO KNOW WHAT HAPPENED HUH?? Here is the video: Warning: Contains graphic content! You can clearly see the workers storming at the police (0:11), they had no choice but to open fire. You cant run towards police with weapons and expect nothing to happen! If you understand Afrikaans, this page explains it quite well too:

      philip.harris.967 - 2012-08-19 13:50

      @Claudia. Agreed that the white minority will at the end of the day bear the brunt of this. No doubt. I also have no doubt that the Police had no alternative. What I cannot understand is why the Police saw fit to face up to these armed strikers and meet force with force in the middle of the bush. Why did the Police meet the strikers head on in this manner?

      philip.harris.967 - 2012-08-19 13:54

      @jahoo logner Why did hundreds of police with automatic weapons ...see fit to face off against hundreds of strikers in the middle of the veldt? I have yet to read an explanation as to why they were there ? If you could write a recipe for a massacre .....this was it.

      pisciotta - 2012-08-19 15:28

      Claudia - There is little if any reports of this event in the USA. Why? SA is not important to America. It has gone off the radar. But you mentioned CNN; did you see the pictures posted there? I believe I saw only 1 white policeman in the mass of black police. Otherwise all that was shown were blacks weilding pangas and spears. Looked to me like an old B/W Tarzan movie from my youth. All blacks and three whites (Tarzan, Jane, and Boy). That is the vision most Americans already believe is the norm for the blacks in SA and all of Africa for that matter. America will not come to the aid of the White Farmer in SA until they know they exist. Most Americans only know of starving black children with flies in their eyes, swollen belly, and AIDS. For my part I keep all my friends informed of the racisim in SA and the barbaric behavior of the Blacks there. I have told a number of my black friends here in America that dispite of the pains of past slavery, they should be grateful it happened. They now have a chance because they are in America. Otherwise they would be like one of the blacks pictured on CNN.

  • madoda.monamudi - 2012-08-18 22:48

    Marikana incident show us the failing of Leadership, ANC Government fail to deliver for Blacks. Lonmin mine exploit workers. Mr Zuma if I where u I will not stand for second term.

      joyce.kweyama - 2012-08-19 02:52


      king.rasta.583 - 2012-08-19 07:56

      yebo yes

  • lownabester - 2012-08-18 22:51

    So tired of all these commision of inquiries. Just step down and let us elect somebody with brains.

  • madoda.monamudi - 2012-08-18 22:55

    Cadre deployment destroy and fail to make good service delivery. We need young and educated,skills full young people who will take this Country forward. I remember President Thabo Mbeki a man of his Caliber it was a big mistake to remove him.

      jimzimbo - 2012-08-18 23:04

      Agreed, SA is in stuck in a popularist politic's jobs for the boy's who happen to be unnderqualified, inexperienced, incompetent and corrupt. The tradgdey is that the same or similar clowns will be voted in again at the next general election....

      njdejager - 2012-08-19 00:40

      @zakhele well i suggest ppl then wake up and vote for the true non-corrupt african leader you want. It will do us all a favour cause our tax money would then we used and not wasted and stolen.

      thomas.obrian.92 - 2012-08-19 07:02

      zakhele, you are obviously a bit of an idiot! Where would you be today if it were not for previous and present colonial infrastructure and technology. Think about it very carefully.

  • rock.jason.52 - 2012-08-18 23:24

    The Sangoma who was doing traditional ritual pretending giving them power from day 1 when the decided tho gather on top of the hills must be accountable because through his false ritual many uneducated and unwise miners believe on him and now many have lost their lives, he must face the music with his false guidance... And what are they keeping again these who were jailed are they going to charge them or what? They government is no longer in level of saying anything because they already done to much damage... \r\nLet find they sangoma first otherwise this things can happen again elsewhere.....

      rock.jason.52 - 2012-08-18 23:49

      Siyanda don't bother with my name am black like you, its not about race or whatever, have see the picture of that stupid sangoma gathering with four people naked and perfoming the ritual? That's was on monday...why he never give them a power of being wise? Its not a issues of race its a matter of finding who mislead these miners and the dead won't be blame and that sangoma who perform false rituals must be accountable for misleading people... Come on man! Wake up are u one of these people who believe on sangoma?

      medhanie.ghezehey - 2012-08-19 00:07

      whether they believe on sangoma or satan,killing should be condomn.

      rock.jason.52 - 2012-08-19 00:08

      Siyanda we both know that they are not well educated its not an insult and its not their fault they are they are just a victim of the system because education its not liable for everyone. Before the massacre happen many people was praising them for gathering with the help of that sangoma who was doing rituals so called to give them strength to fight the enemy I don't know who was the enemy. And now everything went wrong both party are to be blame but that sangoma must be held accountable that's it. And siyanda u must remember that here we just using ace not real name so when u read Rock jason 52 its not my name its just my alias... I guess u understand how internet works!

      rock.jason.52 - 2012-08-19 00:11

      I never said they are stupid uneducated doesn't make u stupid or educated will make u wise automatically.... That's what must understand Mr Siyanda.... \r\nThe Sangoma must accountable along with Union Bosses.....

      william.letsong.5 - 2012-08-19 02:03

      Geeez kids. Arrgg!

      mondli.botha - 2012-08-19 02:14

      Rock u have rocked this one, the sangoma cannot be left unattended. The sangoma must answer!!!!!! When u r disperate anything n everything is seen a potential help.

      mondli.botha - 2012-08-19 02:27

      Rock u have rocked this one, the sangoma cannot be left unattended. The sangoma must answer!!!!!! When u r disperate anything n everything is seen a potential help.

      Meister01 - 2012-08-19 04:52

      All sangomas and their rituals are fake. This is not the first time a crowd believed they were immune to the police bullets.

      hloniphile.fakazi - 2012-08-19 05:53

      @Rock thanx brah m black but I blame these pple for using Muthi because it make them to be sooo stuborn, see now where are they, they wasted money to die @Siyanda come on man don't bring RACISM here these pple were stupid that all, they invited police to kill them!!!

      wekunetsavamwe - 2012-08-19 07:48

      Don't blame the traditional healer rather the blame is on those who went to him for the rituals,how can they be so stupid to the extent of thinking that the herbs or the rituals will save them from the bullet. Common sense is what is lacking in south africa especially to black people,please wake up people protesting is not a solution the firms must make use of dialogues as a substitute of these ruthless fruitless protests

  • ditoare.gypsy - 2012-08-19 00:00

    400 police force. I mean 400 well trained officers firing teargas and rubber bullets was gonna fail to dispair that group of pangas and knobkiries? Personally I don't think so. Those police came there with one intention and one intention only to kill those people. Riyah pheyage must make sure that group of 400police rot in jail and they must spill out whoever gave that instruction from Lonmin management he must also go behind bars. If Reyah fail to do so, Nathi Mthethwa must make sure Reyah is arrested, if Nathi fail to do so, then Jacob Zuma must arrest Nathi Mthethwa, if Zuma fails to arrest Mthethwa then Zuma must step down with immediate effect. South african leadership failed their people dissymally. They are so greedy they can kill anything that is trying get close to their Mine

  • david.diego.14 - 2012-08-19 00:01

    i'm still shocked by what miss police commisioner said she took all the responsible for the police killing,thats a racial words!!!

  • lunga.swelindawo.9 - 2012-08-19 00:07

    point of correction:34 10=44 the inquiry must cover from the start

  • phosa.peter2 - 2012-08-19 00:31

    Commision of enquary yes, but i m afraid if the findings by commision would not b classified under 'state info bill.'

  • rodney.sambo - 2012-08-19 00:43

    Lol!!! This has nothing to do with politics... This is between the company which called SAPS 4 protection & some idiots folks who needed impossible increase... So let's Shut Up & wait 4 findings!!! Plus this prove not everything every time u solve by violence!

  • Neil Zive - 2012-08-19 01:53

    i think you are all the ones obsessed with race. Reading most of these comments is shocking. You are bigger racists than the whites could ever be. Is it so impossible to look at the facts and comment in an intelligent way instead of pulling the race card all the time. WOW !!!!!!

  • chrissie.robinson.39 - 2012-08-19 02:04

    Oh come on! You all complain about SAP not doing their jobs and when they do their jobs they get hanged in public, WHY??? Those protestors came there with the INTENTION to kill the police and to disarm the police and now they are the hero's POLICE you should have killed more!!!! Maybe the murders and unlawful disorder in this country will get under control.

      Sihawu Ka-Esihle Mathe - 2012-08-19 05:06

      police official will use necessity and private defense as the grounds of justification which is a goo way of stating your case if there will be a case against them. job well done to police officials because they saved lives of may people by dealing with those violent protesters.

  • roger.hess.14 - 2012-08-19 02:40

    I posted this yesterday evening (my time/via a ISP in Cambodia) on another article & by the time it went in, the site was OBE. If Zuma wants “to derive the necessary lessons today” he should consider this first: The crowd was armed and from the news/photos leading up to this event they made their intentions clear. I didn't see a formation of fully shielded policemen along the armored vehicles equipped with water cannons and tear gas launchers, this may have occurred earlier and have been dispersed by in-coming gun fire. I did see a loose V-formation of policemen who were charged by an armed gang that flanked the armored vehicles (??) and the intent was clearly not peaceful. Many of the police had assault rifles (no shotguns?) and selected the full-automatic mode from a standing, unsupported position; which is the most inaccurate of your choices with this weapon. Could have the police been better trained and equipped to handle this? Yes. Would that have reduced the amount of people killed given this situation? No. If they were better trained and equipped, there would have probably been more people killed. Don’t blame the police who were on the ground; they did what they could with what they had. For those of you who say different, you’ve obviously never faced an armed crowd that is very intent on hurting/killing you.

      roger.hess.14 - 2012-08-19 04:37

      Hmm, four thumbs down already. Guess we know who’s reading posts this early in South Africa. Just realized that I used an abbreviation that will probably confuse many people. In the US Military context “OBE” stands for Overcome By Events; however the Colonial use of these three letters stands for Order of the British Empire,.. which as we all know was also Overcome By Events. Makes you wonder if someone intentionally made the two sound so close!

      Edmore Kuseri - 2012-08-19 07:01

      the inquiry must be done before the burial of these mine workers because there was no negotions at labour point of view . the only instruction was to disperse from the mine and go where .to work . or jail , what happened to the basic employment act.

  • joyce.kweyama - 2012-08-19 03:05


      roger.hess.14 - 2012-08-19 05:05

      Malema’s speech was worthless and hollow, as was all of the other rhetoric he has thrown out trying to build false hope with unrealistic expectations to those who didn’t know any better so he could capitalize on their support, both financially and politically. He has never cared for anyone but himself; open your eyes!

      Ballycan Mashabane - 2012-08-19 05:29

      You can't see through malema???? Everything he said was populist, unrealistic and stupid! Common is needed by the mineworkers to see the fact of the situation!

      bright.sibanda.739 - 2012-08-19 07:23

      Wh is Malema.l nev thot by dis tym ther is stil sombd praisin Malema.Pliz check yo balanc

      kenny.bianco.7 - 2012-08-19 07:55

      Are u obsessed with Malema

  • sefohlelo - 2012-08-19 05:09

    What happened is very tragic but others are taking advantage of the situation by trying to score cheap political points,that fool Malema is at it again.By the way,under what capacity was he talking?Ooh shame poor Juju.

      bryan.billy2 - 2012-08-19 06:01

      So wat dd u expect Malema 2 say, so u min the death of thoz pple z welcome. Police must go bak 2 training if not so thn ey gng 2 kill evn month around S.A

      sefohlelo - 2012-08-19 06:39

      Who said what happened is good,do you understand the word \TRAGEDY\ that I started with?If you are Malema's fan,just know that i'm Malema's NUMBER ONE HATER.

  • duma.nkabinde - 2012-08-19 06:00

    In RSA also known as the protests capital of the world doesn't have police personnel who can disperse a protesting crowd, they kill their brothers for paycheques and all the president wants is an inquiry. Zuma is using Vervoed's manual to sort this massacre out, and overlooking the fact that Lonmin is just the beginning! other mines are facing the same problem of wage disparities. Farmworkers are next! Its the landless versus the landlords........

      chrispin.mhlongo - 2012-08-19 07:32

      who so ever gave order,lead to this senseless killing which cost orphansto be left fatherless and fat cats protecting what is stolen from workers,must be dealt with,and whoever found guilty be severely punished.

  • patti.king.7374 - 2012-08-19 06:06

    I think the police should deliver a service to our people and not try to use force as a method to show their strength

      siyabonga.mthethwa.566 - 2012-08-19 06:41

      Police officers has rights too

  • trevor.bush.9655 - 2012-08-19 06:33

    S othis is how the ANC plan to take over the mines...and to have Julius rise once again...all text book politics at the peoples expense, just scream race and people go stupid,politicians win every time.

  • gudani.nedzingahe - 2012-08-19 06:43

    wat if de victims were police? Wat wer u gonna say hey? Let me answr dis 4 u. U'ld sy der stupid, nt wll traind, hw cn dey gt dmslf klld whl dey hd guns? Evry1's 2 blam, nd ppl shld stp usng police as de scapegt, evn polic hv familiez 2 supprt nd der own livs 2 spare.

      paulgerber969 - 2012-08-19 15:30

      do we need this slang not kosher

  • braamc - 2012-08-19 07:11

    ANC fat cats politicians and cadres connections in mining and other activities vs "the people" that have no respect for life, property and can't behave like humans. It is that simple

  • Rodney - 2012-08-19 07:16

    now is time to change the current leadership of Zuma. The thnk of invester rather to protect the the people for there meniral rights. U protect the indiviual Ramaposa.

  • wekunetsavamwe - 2012-08-19 07:18

    SAPS - Silent Assassins for Protesting Situations

  • ziphok1 - 2012-08-19 07:21

    As if mines are nationalised everyone will be like Juju and build 16m mansion. No, the politicians will have more to steal from. Only blind idiots will support that nationalisation bull that Fat boy has been feeding us.

  • bane.andy.3 - 2012-08-19 07:33


  • - 2012-08-19 07:49

    Zuma or should I say Mr spear, ur days are numbered,wen u marry each and every year u carry a weapon as part of ur tradition,and the police are not threatened,but wen workers sat peacefully,armed with the same weapon of urs @ the hill demanding better wages police are threatened,WHY Mr SPEAR WHY..?

  • JJ Jacobs - 2012-08-19 07:57

    Mr Zuma, why dont you inquire the inadequte training given to your own SAPS, you might go then go to root of problem. You are so busy with infighting within ANC and travelling abroad that you have forgotten to govern RSA

  • douglas.reid.921 - 2012-08-19 07:57

    Mine comrades are manual labourers, not educated, simple people. They have been exploited for years, mines pay peanuts and get away with it. Then the sangoma exploits them, probably demanded money for strong muthi, then the unions exploit them to justify their union fees, giving them unrealistic expectations of wage increase, then cops exploit them rather than do their job properly, then Malema exploits them to get back into the political spotlight..... The only losers here are the miners. They will NEVER get R12500 a month, maybe in ten years time.

  • roy.wadhams.1 - 2012-08-19 08:06

    What the Police did was wrong but what would anyone do in the same circumstances if you saw a crowd advancing on you carrying spears,pangas and other dangerous weapons? The problem in this country is that all demonstrators are out to cause destruction & mayhem to make their point.

      joy.makatu - 2012-08-19 09:33

      if not carrying a firearm will run for dear lyf

  • prieurp34 - 2012-08-19 08:08

    Its typical, whites are to blame yet again even tho we were not involved! BLACK owned mines, NOT PAYING their workers, same story as ARORA mines! Idiots who talk about Verwoerd, yet they don't know what the hell they are talking about! What about Malema? He is a black version of Verwoerd, wouldn't you agree? Then they say, SOME of the PROTESTERS were ARMED, bull, they were ALL ARMED with dangerous WEOPONS and THE PROTESTERS stormed down the hill towards the police, the police NEVER stormed them! What were they supposed to do, STAND STILL??? The protesters had the opportunity to hold talks with VARIOUS PEOPLE, including the Mine Workers Unions, the protesters REFUSED to listen to them! And what about the TWO SECURITY GUARDS WHO WAS BURNED TO DEATH and TWO DEATHS OF POLICE OFFICERS previously? What about them, did they deserve to die? Why did the ANCY, AZAPO, MINEWORKERS UNIONS wait till now to investigate the matter? Why was it not stopped on day ONE? By the way, the Police Commissioner cannot act without the \GO-AHEAD\ from the PRESIDENT himself, so infact ZUMA gave the order to use MAXIMUM FORCE to detain the strikers! Protesters have for too long gotten away with their VIOLENT striking acts, its high time that the police use the maximum force to get rid of these tendencies! Let this be a lesson to for Malema and his GANG of THUGS, he won't get away with his violent preaching actions anymore.......By the way if Malema has a matric certificate then I have a doctors degree! Fat cat himself, even he has a hand in the mining industry, so he should be blamed to! Your own BLACK government is giving it to you from the REAR, ENJOY!

  • francois.r.bester - 2012-08-19 08:10

    only a fool goes to a gun fight with, a panga, an assegaai, a knobkierrie, and blessings from his witch doctor!!!!!

  • sefako.mokgalaka - 2012-08-19 08:12

    What can you expect from the police if politicians and their families own the mines? Khulubuse Zuma, Zondwa Mandela and the Motsepes are rich they can pay anyone including the ANC.

  • Harold Chisimba - 2012-08-19 08:12

    'I as a commissioner, Iorderd to excute' That means she is gallantly handing over herself to mother justice, .So at least inquiry team has easy preamble with their job. Just beat the bush.

  • kobus.louw.980 - 2012-08-19 08:14

    This is a tragic event BUT some good may come out of it? The Unions should take full responsibility for this! They (the leaders) are sitting in air-conditioned offices, drive in BMW's and earn FAT salaries and "out of the firing line" and these poor buggers have to suffer! The people on the ground should call the leaders to walk in front. The second guilty party is the Government - they allowed the Unions to become the "rulers" of this country! They should have kicked ass long time ago!

      king.rasta.583 - 2012-08-19 08:27

      sure my man

  • Jaco Liza Venter - 2012-08-19 11:16

    Malema you are not my favourite person your timing to campaign is wrong sir but i must agree with you Zuma must step down and the police minister also. The police acted wrong, look at the videos then you can see there is lack of training because any one can become a police man in this country. Bring back the old system then the police can have proper training. In this country we are sitting with the best trained police officers in the world but they cant get a job because they are white or dont get promoted and forced to leave the job because they are white,so what do this government want skills or people shooting innocent strikers because they do not know what to do.

  • CraigMBowker - 2012-08-19 13:04

    Cops had already died at the mines. I'm pretty sure whst the cops did was considered an act of self-defence. An interview on Cape Talk revealed that the protesters were forced to carry wepons, because if people die it shows how serious they are about their protest. May the initiators of that train of thought rot in hell!!!

  • glen.e.huysamer - 2012-08-19 13:12

    The political truth or the real down to the roots, dirty, gritty truth! What is it going to be? The way the news coverage is going, it seems that huge coverups are already in play.

  • winifred.watson.9 - 2012-08-19 13:38

    We will never get the real truth, there is going to be a lot of blaming and unfortunately those who should be held responsible will be protected and we can see where is blame is going to find its way. We should know by this time that justice and commission of enquirey etc are pointless.....Unions are politically connected, police force fall under government so where does that leave this.......Sangoma or Lonmin, you place your bet. Let this be a lesson to all future strikers and protestors, violence begets violence.....Union bossess dont always have your best interests at heart. Unions like to show the power and make a lot of noise, they like to want to show their strength, hence they incite the people for their own recognition and power. When in the end what have they actually achieved for you. Is it worth losing lives, they get to see another day, while your family mourns. Think before you act.

  • John - 2012-08-19 21:35

    Questions. How many bullet wounds entered the front of the wounded and killed? How many bullets entered their backs on the day of the massacre? Show the video from the first shot! This will establish the TRUTH of the matter! Stop skirting the issue. Do not politicise the matter!

      prieurp34 - 2012-08-21 09:47

      Answers: don't know! QUESTION: Can you count them? Just look at the video and tell us how many bullets entered them from the rear! Maybe you will be able to see through all the dust and with bullets flying how many strikers turned around? Awaiting in anticipation!

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