Lonmin strikers marching to another mine

2012-09-10 12:19

Rustenburg - A group of protesting Marikana mineworkers was marching from Wonderkop to Lonmin's nearby Eastern Platinum mine on Monday, in an attempt to stop operations there.

Police stopped them on the way, but after negotiations, allowed the workers - some waving knobkerries and sjamboks - to proceed.

Representatives of the workers told the police they wanted access to the mine to close down operations there.

"Mining activities at the Eastern Platinum mine have to be halted as the workers there are underpaid," said a leader of the protesters, Anele Nogwanya.

"We have now buried all our fallen colleagues. Now is the time to honour our promise to them of getting the R12 500," he said.

"If we go back to work without getting R12 500, our deceased colleagues will turn against us."

On August 16, police fired on a group of protesting workers killing 34 of them and wounding 78. Another 10 people were killed the preceding week, including two policemen and two security guards.

Wage talks

Lonmin said staff attendance was 6.34% on Monday, ahead of wage talks, which were expected to begin at noon.

One of the conditions of a peace deal signed on Thursday was that the workforce return on Monday.

"Attendance today is 6.34%," said spokesperson Sue Vey, after a slow start of just over 2% earlier.

Only one shift - the 07:00 - was running across the 11 shafts of the Marikana complex, which includes Eastern Platinum Ltd and Western Platinum Ltd.

The company, which is considered one of the world's largest producers of platinum group metals, loses about 2 500 platinum ounces per day of no production.

Work stopped at the mine on August 10.

Earlier, the Association of Mineworkers and Construction Union (Amcu), which did not sign the accord, said it would participate in Monday's negotiations, but could not guarantee that its members would return to work.

The National Union of Mineworkers, Solidarity, Uasa and Lonmin management agreed to the peace accord early on Thursday morning to level the ground for wage negotiations.

Solidarity general secretary Gideon du Plessis said the tone of Monday's talks would be an indication of what the last few weeks had been about.

"If they commence negotiations, we will know it's about the wage dispute. If they carry on with intimidation and unlawful gatherings, there is a lot more to it," he said.

  • desertratbkf - 2012-09-10 12:27

    Put the rifle on "A"

      frank.cornelissen.1 - 2012-09-10 12:36

      And kill the rabbit beforehand! These moegoes deserve each and every bullet speeding their way as if you don't stop this BS after being killed like flies, so be it!

  • KeeperofChaos - 2012-09-10 12:27

    This is getting out of hand. Shoot them! Rubber bullets and tear gas first, if they still dont listen then FMJ or hollow point.

  • kaspaas.breekwater - 2012-09-10 12:31

    Close all the mines, retrench all the workers, and after they all starved to death, start from scratch and employ people who want to work.

      herman.heil - 2012-09-10 12:35

      Hey, my sentiments exactly, let the scum starve.

      KeeperofChaos - 2012-09-10 12:56

      Wish it was so easy and that it would work, but that is worst case scenario. They will have to rob and hijack in order to make a living. The last thing we want is more crime. They must learn the hard way. If they cause unrest then the rubber bullets must come thick and fast. Actually by now if the cops see them above ground not working then by default they must open fire. Time for them to go back to work.

      alfred.mokganyetsi - 2012-09-11 20:43

      yeah,dey shud b fired.oops!i forgot dat u cn drill,u tnk undaground jobs run lyk office jobs wher ppl r taught @ universities

  • herman.heil - 2012-09-10 12:33

    Close the mine and let the scum starve to death.

  • mike.clery - 2012-09-10 12:34

    And again, I suppose they applied for permission like everyone else has to?

  • Harold Chisimba - 2012-09-10 12:35

    They never listen, shoot them all and employ others who are frantically needing the job.Is it bcoz the case was withdrawn against them?

      alfred.mokganyetsi - 2012-09-11 20:19

      u shud hv listened 2 xolani gwala on am live 2day.r u an office bearer?

  • IvdBergh - 2012-09-10 12:35

    "If we go back to work without getting R12 500, our deceased colleagues will turn against us." ??? - LMAO !!!! %#%$# Idiots

      mark.higgens.9 - 2012-09-10 12:50

      I'm sure that's what their trusted 'drink-this-you-won't-get-hurt Sangoma' told them!

      boltonbarry - 2012-09-10 14:14

      I would love to be a fly on the wall when that happens..:-) If they thought the dead rabbit gave them problems they are in for a shock when angry dead people have their way with them. :-) HEY its 2012. Maybe the impending end of the world rise of the Zombies start here in South Africa...Are you prepared

  • dane.jenkinson - 2012-09-10 12:35

    How do deceased colleagues turn against them? Obviously not the brightest person is leading the strike.

  • nicolaas.geldenhuys - 2012-09-10 12:35

    Everywhere you read it's just Lonmin/Marikana. Really getting sick and tired of this crap now.

  • christina.setloboko - 2012-09-10 12:38

    i can see job losses here, they are fight a losing battle. aren't they tired?

  • Teuneman - 2012-09-10 12:38

    Give all of them R12 500...severence pay.

  • ashley.stroebel - 2012-09-10 12:38

    Police cant do anything....criminals getting away while police under microscope..........if the police lift their hands everybody whants to complain, human rights groups, political parties......Just let people run a moc these days....WTF. metro cracking down on Gangs and crime in the cape... ibet you somebody is going to complain.....

  • hector.barbossa.52 - 2012-09-10 12:42

    Any dead Bunnies ??

      Teuneman - 2012-09-10 12:44

      No, they got lucky. All of them had rabit feet.

      boltonbarry - 2012-09-10 14:16

      Rabbit feet and Rabid minds

  • victor.davi3 - 2012-09-10 12:48

    Lonmin Marikana Strikers on de muv again, when daz thiz going to end ...

  • victor.davi3 - 2012-09-10 12:48

    Lonmin Marikana Strikers on de muv again, when daz thiz going to end ...

  • victor.davi3 - 2012-09-10 12:48

    Lonmin Marikana Strikers on de muv again, when daz thiz going to end ...

  • stefan.kruger.1297 - 2012-09-10 12:52

    they really know how to stretch a situation...

      shelley.vorster.9 - 2012-09-10 13:08

      you mean milk a situation? now that they "claim" they are starving due to the fact that they have not been paid, the want the world to THINK we are so cruel and making them starve to death- shampies

  • rowan.maulson - 2012-09-10 12:52

    Why the hell have these cretins not been fired already?

  • andre.vandeventer.16 - 2012-09-10 12:55

    This is all part of Malema's plot to disrupt the entire mining industry. this is politics at it's worst and has nothing to do with salaries. One of Lonmin's miners took R16500 home the week before the initial strike because his productivity was high. Most of them take R8000 to R9000 home after deductions. Not bad for someone not schooled!

      yanga.dlokolo - 2012-09-10 16:37

      point of correction, that is very gud for someone not schooled

  • gembleton1 - 2012-09-10 13:00

    Fire the lot get new workers and send this lot home and if they don’t leave arrest them for trespassing

  • shengeboy - 2012-09-10 13:04

    let me guess, the inyanga told u that ur still bulletproof?

  • vivian.harris.73 - 2012-09-10 13:04

    Clearly no brains amongst these people. No work, no pay. And when there is no money they gonna strike again....

  • Greypatriot - 2012-09-10 13:05

    We need a new approach to solving this industrial crisis. This is not a wage dispute - it is more than that. People are putting their live on the line! Why? If this spreads to other mines and industries we will not be able to restart the economy without huge investments and sacrifices. We still don't know why there is a crisis now, why did this not start last year or the year before?

  • celest.pretorius.9 - 2012-09-10 13:08

    Cut your nose to spite your face.

  • gerrit.j.burger - 2012-09-10 13:15

    Lonmin is a Brittish owned Mine. They have Balls. Rumour has it that they are closing the mine end of this month. They had enough. No work ... no pay ... no mine !!!! Yous strikers deserve to sit without pay or work . They brought it on themselves. More Companies should take this route.

      shelley.vorster.9 - 2012-09-10 13:26

      damn idiots, wonder what they will then strike against or for? oh wait - We demand jobs or we will burn down factories...... yip i think thats it

      Harold Chisimba - 2012-09-10 17:53

      They will see how cruelythe monster called Joblessness is.

  • attie.mostert.9 - 2012-09-10 13:17

    Yes, very clever they are, work for as long as you cant, then you get paid Ro p.m. because the mine cannot operate anymore. ppppft

  • Louise Whittingstall Barnard - 2012-09-10 13:18

    Oh my word, I am so over these damn miners!!! Just fire their asses, there are thousands of people who would jump at the chance of employment!!!!_unfortunately you get paid according to qualifications and education!

      Thanduxolo Galada - 2012-09-10 13:32

      Why don't you be the first of those???

  • anakin.skyvader - 2012-09-10 13:21

    This is an excellent example of why fracking will not work in SA, besides the issues of the environment in the karoo that will suffer irreparable damage: 1. Who is going to actually work at the fracking sites when the min. salary is going to be R14k/month? [ WE DEMAND!!!... ] 2. Who's fault is it going to be when a new wave of poor previously disadvantaged settlers immediately appear in the vicinity where fracking is first going to take place? Will the workers all have cars with houses incl. swimming pools with top schools? Yes... WE DEMAND!!WE DEMAND!!! WE DEMAND!!! WE DEMAND!!! 3. Did Zuma ask Juju's and AMCU's permission for fracking? (as it seems Juju & kie are running the show)? 4. WHEN are the workers going on strike and when are they going to damage the fracking equipment and "burn down the resources"? [ ] Yes, FIRST CONVINCE yourselves that YOU actually WANT to work there in future. We are FED UP and GATVOL with violent burning protests. Watch this video at [ ] and I am convinced it will turn into an exploration disaster with the environment paying the ultimate price. Prove me wrong, please.

      gerrit.j.burger - 2012-09-10 13:35

      Anakin, there is nothing you can do to stupidity. In the USA, the lovliest and clearest lakes are poisoned because of this same type of project. The Govt. must now start investing in a fast Railing system so that these stupid idiots can go and fwtch seewater for household purposes. For all I care they can all get sick and die,,,,, They have been warned about these gasses mixing with water on these water tables !!! We don't have a problem, heaven is waiting for us !!!

  • mphetho - 2012-09-10 13:21

    We hope this killins come 2 an end

  • andrew.surtees1 - 2012-09-10 13:21

    this is rubbish, how can they let this happen again, fire these idiots and employee people who would love to have thier jobs please! now when they kill more people they gonna expect the police to do nothing, if that happens, i hope they try go at the police again and the same result happens cause the government is allowing this and it is disgusting of Zuma to sit back and do nothing about this, Zuma you have been the worst thing for this country and i hope you fall hard one day and realize this is all on you fat boy!

  • jason.evetts.5 - 2012-09-10 13:35

    I think i have typed and retyped comments for a good 30 minutes, these "workers" are showing the rest of the world what half believe about South Africa to be true, that we are 3rd world trash, not the beautiful rainbow nation. Shoot them full of rubber bullets until they learn.

  • - 2012-09-10 13:38

    Let them strike, eventually when there is no money, no food and no one to feed them they can go to their fckup leader "MR MALEMA" himself and demand money for food from him. Maybe he can help them. The mines are loaded, surely they can stick this out???

      sandy.langenstrass - 2012-09-10 14:04 right...The problem with the uneducated...they always think that there is money that is continually available, no matter what....they don't have the sense to work out the financial affect them striking will have on the Companies money matters.....NO..NO...THEY MUST GIVE US MONEY. IDIOTS...GET SOME UNDERSTANDING of how matters work...before you demand.

      mart.botha - 2012-09-10 14:36

      Was I the only one to notice how well heeled the 'protesting/mourning' wives were after the shooting incident.....plenty of designer labels there I am sure. We could all demand better cars and houses but this is not going to happen. These guys are shooting themselves in the foot because what follows is foreign mine owners who supply their own know it and I know it.

  • christo.boshoff1 - 2012-09-10 13:38

    More idiots - Malema's doing!

  • sean.efstratiou - 2012-09-10 13:44

    It's gonna be awesome when they all loose their jobs, where's JuJu then..

  • sandy.langenstrass - 2012-09-10 13:52

    Iv'e come to realize.....this striking, chanting, toi-toing and going on the rampage has come to form part of the African Culture. They seem to need these marches on a twice year occurrence to satisfy this inner need. I'd like to point out...that they certainly have their frustrations....but so do white people have frustrations.....but our culture doesn't see white people marching and going crazy.....SO FAR....BUT MAYBE WE certainly seems to get you your own way.

  • Essy1945 - 2012-09-10 14:06

    Oh Ju-ju - you really did want to cause trouble and now it's spreading... what did you pay them to bring the country to it's knees - is this how you planned to nationalise - te, te, te - you've created a monster!

  • Paul Mphap - 2012-09-10 14:08

    im afraid, it luks like sumtin wrong Is gonna happen again dis wik...our country is cursed by zuma. why cant he just resign as of now mara?

      irene.buthelezi.1 - 2012-09-10 14:22

      Even better than Zoooomer stepping down is if cANCer acknowledged they're not capable of running the country. Not even capable of running a bath.

      lorain.maseko - 2012-09-10 14:28

      Because paul if he risign we will be stuck wif malema and we don want dat

  • ken.grimblegrumble - 2012-09-10 14:11

    If this carries on much longer I believe the miners will get far more than 12.5K. I think we are looking at 40K, sacked that is.

  • eben.vanderrmerwe - 2012-09-10 14:14

    Just fire the lot and get on with things. No one would expect this to be as easy as said, but given the president to be created by allowing the alternative (giving in to the ludicrous demand), it is clear that there are'nt much option.

  • terrylee.heuer - 2012-09-10 14:15

    The representatives that negotiated with the police must be the same people that threatenend to kill management and to kill working miners last week!!! I would love to know what they said to the police for them to be able to proceed in the first place police should not have to negotiate with these guys its not their job or am I wrong??!! There are murderers amongst these strikers the murderers of 10 innocent people I wonder if justice will ever be sought for those murders??!! I wonder if an investigation has even started??!!

  • ken.grimblegrumble - 2012-09-10 14:21

    Remember this is an illegal strike and the Mining Company is well within its rights to fire. Personally I would fire them all, hire back those who want to work at half what they are currently paid until the losses are made good. After that I would sit down to with the unions to discuss productivity and future salaries. Illegal strikes must hit anyone so hard that they will not think about it again. Will this happen? Definitely not.

      alfred.mokganyetsi - 2012-09-11 20:04

      u talk lyk that bcoz ther'z no risk associated wit yr current job,r u working in an office?d u breath artificial air,d u work knowing dat ther's a possibility of yr limb being cut?if no then shut de hell up

  • Paul Mphap - 2012-09-10 14:24

    is not easy 2 fire every1 cos not every1 can drill rock under ground...u guys praat soos julle wil...working ug is pap & vleis...theyre reasonable cos theyr exposing num 4 being biased.

      martin.kotze.33 - 2012-09-10 15:20

      No Paul, that's not the reason they don't get fired. The reason is that they have become a group of terrorists threatening the lives of millions of innocent citizens if they get fired...

  • Sonnyjakes - 2012-09-10 14:24

    Cannot help thinking that Amcu are behind this because of opposition to NUM? NUM, Solidarity, Uasa and Lonmin management agreed to the peace accord early on Thursday morning Amcu not. Malema stoking fires here? "Around 15,000 workers have downed tools in South Africa at a Gold Fields mine west of Johannesburg, just under a week after a strike ended at another part of the same mine, the company said Monday." Malema is instigating?

      terrylee.heuer - 2012-09-10 14:30

      Yes definitely AMCU they have 7000 members there alone and about 30000 countrywide from what I've read and they have not been part of talks from the very beginning and don't beleieve in signing a peace accord

  • mart.botha - 2012-09-10 14:27

    This is economic 'terrorism' and must be treated as such. 'Fix bayonets' and sort it out, there is absolutely no reasoning with this group of underachievers who have a vastly inflated opinion of their worth.

  • ken.grimblegrumble - 2012-09-10 14:30

    Another idea is to take 10% of the miners salary each month and invest the money in a guaranteed fund. Each month the miner may draw one twelfth of the investment. Should the miner go on an ILLEGAL strike then they loose they investment to those that remain working. The Mining Company must also top up this investment based on returns as I don't believe people must be exploited. This idea has NOTHING to do with the normal wage negotiations, it simply says that if you go wildcat it is going to cost you, and other miners will gain.

      ken.grimblegrumble - 2012-09-10 14:36

      Instead of "then they loose they investment" should read "then they lose their investment" Apologies blood pressure is climbing

  • Paul Mphap - 2012-09-10 14:50

    Dont worry eben van der 1 of illiterate miners on strike.

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