MEC: Threats to burn Gautrain absurd

2013-03-18 19:24

Johannesburg - Threats by commuters to burn down the Gautrain are "absurd", Gauteng Transport and Roads MEC Ismail Vadi said on Monday.

"In a country where costly transport infrastructure development has taken centre stage in the National Development Plan, it will be absolutely absurd to threaten to destroy existing transport and rail infrastructure," Vadi said in a statement.

On Wednesday, a group of irate commuters threatened to torch Gautrain coaches if the authorities did not urgently improve the Metrorail train service.

They had gathered outside the Bosman Railway Station, in Pretoria, to demand improved service from Metrorail.

Relying on the train service had been a frustrating experience for thousands of commuters, said protest leader Reuben Rathelele.

He said the transport department did not do a proper needs analysis for the majority of South Africans when it invested in the Gautrain.

Vadi said the Gauteng region was an integrated cluster of cities, towns and urban nodes, which together made up the economic heartland of South Africa.

"The backbone of this economic heartland is rail as a mode of public transport."

A plan by the Passenger Rail Agency of SA (Prasa) prioritised Metrorail to develop a "super rail corridor" which included the Mabopane-Pretoria, Pretoria-Germiston-Johannesburg, and the Johannesburg-Soweto corridors.

"Let us stand and work together towards an efficient and sustainable passenger rail system that works for all, instead of threatening to destroy key public transport infrastructure," said Vadi.

  • goyougoodthing - 2013-03-18 19:30

    Why is this absurd, it's what South Africans have always done. We want schools so we burn schools. None to bright our lot.

      squeegee.pilot - 2013-03-18 19:37

      The ANC taught children to run rampant and kill, burn and destroy. Now its absurd. Chickens coming home to roost...

      NickvanGraan - 2013-03-18 20:15

      Absurd maybe, but its the kind of thing they would not hesitate to do!

      John Loveland - 2013-03-18 21:06

      And once you improve metro rail... The taxis will burn them because there passengers will then take the train.. A country of "entitlement"

  • M0le - 2013-03-18 19:37

    Let them try, just shoot them if they not already standing in front of the train on the track.

  • Desilusionada - 2013-03-18 19:44

    Shows how out of touch this Vadi and the rest is. He might think it is absurd, but it is a reality for some. They did call to do so! I think it is absurd to build a R250 million hut with lift, wine cellar and Spaza shop. With a hospital and soccer field for for one power hungry fool who appears to need this to amuse himself and then get treated when he injures himself. Laughing at the taxpayer.....

      Nigel Vos - 2013-03-18 22:03

      Desilusionada - I agree with everything you say except one thing that I object to ..... That is not a cellar - that is a bomb / doomsday / nuclear bunker. And you know as well as I do that Nkandla is in danger of being nuked.

  • Sheda Habib - 2013-03-18 19:48

    They will burn the trains today and tomorrow morning be the first in the queue waiting for a train. When it does not arrive they are pissed off. It is the same as when the same person cries about service delivery and tomorrow stands in the voting queue ready to put an X next to ANC. And then Vadi is confused ? These are the people who voted for you Vadi, these are the people whose votes put you into power, which means that you are them. So why are you so confused about yourself Mr Vadi.

      Kobie Nel - 2013-03-18 20:34

      The definition of an "agter geblewende" is the person standing in the station, waiting for the train, he burned down yesterday.

  • SharonE - 2013-03-18 19:58

    Maybe the thought of torching the Gautrain seems absurd to a rational person, but protesters don't act rationally. If it is flammable, then it will burn. No logic required, only matches...

  • rob.martin.94402343 - 2013-03-18 20:00

    And when they do burn them Ismail?

  • Warren Hattingh - 2013-03-18 20:07

    "Absurd"...refers to the voters who keep on voting you idiots into power ! Yep, thats the same idiots who threatend last week to burn down the Gautrain. How can you morons take a almost a week to respond to a threat like that?

  • peter.vanzyl.948 - 2013-03-18 20:09

    Wake up you Idiot!! These are the peasants talking now!! The peasants have brought EVERY Civilisation to its knees! Remember Marie Antionnette?? "LET THEM EAT CAKE"? your turn is coming AND sooner than you can imagine!! You anc puppet!

  • Lee Brand - 2013-03-18 20:14

    Thats what we do here in SA - burn stuff, people, trucks, trains, cars and sometimes ourselves by accident. So be nervous. Maybe we should have upgraded the metro rail first? Heh heh.

      sandra.j.rennie - 2013-03-18 22:30

      Lee Brand I must agree with you on the burning of everything. But at the same time PRASA should have upgraded Metrorail FIRST and FOREMOST. The people that use this mode of transport need it the most. The Gautrain could have waited while the oldest and outdated trains came on track first.

  • Michael Konings - 2013-03-18 20:37

    Affordable and reliable public transport for all.

  • Winston En Ria Worthington - 2013-03-18 21:25

    Where there's smoke, there's a fire fanned by the fanatical, hysterical unions (VABONDE). These unions are destroying the country. The govt.and in turn the country is being governed by these Communist, anti-Christ Philistines. Reading through Law books is very interesting and causes a person to draw-up a list of Criminal Offences committed by these people. Attempted murder, Assault GBH and Common Assault, Housebreaking/Robbery, Looting, Theft, MITP Malicious Injury to Property, Crimen Injuria, Possession of Stolen Property, Trespassing, Threat to Human life, Serious Trauma (can all parties claim from Govt, Cosatu, Fransman, Ehrenreich, BAWUSA)??, Arson, Instigation, Intimidation, Depriving honest workers of their future,jobs, rights,salary,freedom; Threats of Murder, Threats of Assault, Littering- Rocks etc on Public roads/ Unlawfully claiming ownership of roads, Treason, Terrorist-related attacks, Depriving farm-owners of their produce,freedom,peace,human rights; Stealing motorised equipment,and un-authorised use thereof,Damage to equipment,Possession of dangerous weapons (Yes,Sticks, stones, pangas,firearms); Violation of the Constitution, Partaking in Illegal strikes/Protest actions,Service delivery protestsetc; Murder,attempted murder and Assault GBH on Police Officials; Disloyalty/Untrustworthy, Reckless and or Negligent driving on private property and on Public roads; Illegal use of mechanised equipment ie Earth-moving equipment; possesion of Stolen vehicle/s;

  • Tyrone Grobbelaar - 2013-03-18 21:37

    I have seen the type. I have travelled both the metro and gautrain. After using the metro during intern work for the equivalent of 5 months (+150 trips). I can say that there are the decent paying people of the metro, and then the entitled, thieving people who use the cut fences and take the back alleys daily and don't pay: about 15 % of metro commuters don't even pay for tickets. I have seen it with my own eyes. those dodgy characters are the ones threatening to burn the gautrain, not the law abiding ones who buy their tickets. They take the train for free and threaten to burn the gautrain because it is better! pay your tickets and maybe Sanral would have enough to upgrade. Bunch of self entitled pigs have no pride in the transport they use. I feel so sorry for those who use the dirty metro everyday, 100 times more than i ever will. they deserve better! The metro is a disgrace, low wage people pay a significant portion toward transport (even though cheap according to my means); give people some dignity and upgrade the trains, then place surveillance to catch those who try burn it. It is ridiculous! There is electronic systems/infrastructure that were installed a while back that have not even been turned on, like they don't know how to use it!

  • Erna Westdyk - 2013-03-18 21:47

    Threats to burn the Gautrain may be absurb but I wouldn't put it past them.

  • Garrick Dunstan - 2013-03-18 21:51

    Yes vote for another pay other than the anc and maybe we can get it

  • Garrick Dunstan - 2013-03-18 21:53

    Where does Eskom fit in, oh yeah they're all government run enterprises and Malema still wants to nationalise the other well run ones, it's like a stage production isn't it

  • Winston En Ria Worthington - 2013-03-18 21:54

    Unlawful/Intentional/willful deasruction of Public roads Govt property; Pollution- Burning tyres, trashing etc; Endangering innocent motorists/peoples lives' concurrent with attempted murder; Impersonating Police/Traffic officials (Blocking off roads and obstructing right-of-way); Willing accomplices in Unlawful practices; Malicious damage to property(Vehicles etc); Ehrenreich---Causing irreperable financial problems in th Economy; Obstructing the Course of Justice, Extortion Unlawful and intentional, Impersonating/ over-riding the Govt, issuing instructions to Port Authorities not to load farmer,s produce; CXrimen Injuria (Belittling farmers and citizens of SA); Deformation of Character; Inciting mobs to cause chaos in SA; Causing pain/suffering to farmers,farm workers and innocent motorists/members of the Public; Kidnapping farm workers; Deaths as a result of his actions/orders and the ensuing medical costs incurred,ambulance, autopsy,funerals, pain/suffering; Causing a rebellion and serious damage to farmer's crops and serious financial loss to farmers; Causing armed insurrection; risking farm workers live's; Causing job losses- Farmers and workers should claim compensation from Govt, Cosatu, Eherenreich and Fransman; Hate speech; Verbal assault; Illegaly bussing-in unemployed people that have nothing to do with farm workers;Utterances made that farmers have no right to employ Security companies (Serious abuse of Human Rights)Farmers should lay Criminal charges,sue,claim

  • Winston En Ria Worthington - 2013-03-18 22:02

    Further, depriving farm workers of food and water(Abuse of Human Rights); Govt, Ehrenreich, Fransman---Serious dereliction of Duties; Partiality and siding with farm workers; Sue the Govt, Ehrenreich, Fransman; Breaching the Constitution; Inciting/causing Murder, Attempted Murder and Assault GBH on Law Enforcers; Overthrowing the Govt

      sandra.j.rennie - 2013-03-18 22:35

      Winston and Ria You are hysterical ! For heaven's sake get real. This is not the only country this happens in. It's all over the world ! Would you like to live in the Middle East ?

  • tiaan.vanderberg.75 - 2013-03-18 22:07

    The ANC created this menatlity monster. Feed it!

  • tiaan.vanderberg.75 - 2013-03-18 22:10

    Burning schools because we want schools, burning trains because we want trains, burning books because we want books, Is like shagging for virginity!

  • jungleboy - 2013-03-18 22:42

    ANC hyenas at their best.

  • Winston En Ria Worthington - 2013-03-18 22:42

    Page 1 begins ...Where there's smoke... Page 2 begins... Unlawful, intentional, willful destruction... Page 3 begins... Further, depriving farm workers....! Apologies for spelling faults, but this is what happens when you try typing at the speed of light and discover shorthand is in actual fact longhand.

  • MrGrumpy - 2013-03-18 23:03

    It's the African Way that Zuma encouraged.

  • arthur.salvado - 2013-03-19 07:25

    Anyone have figures as to how profitable the Gautrain is or otherwise ? Would start putting things in a better perspective. If operating at a loss, then it's just one more thing the taxpayers will fund forever after having paid for the service and the officials cut.

  • Tshepo Maganedisa - 2013-03-19 08:25

    The strange thing about this is, you always see this gautrain buses driving around the cities the whole day empty while the majority of the people are standing in the long queues without proper and reliable transport - now my question is who is still funding this mode of transportation because i honestly dont think it is even coming close to breakeven, so my take is the government is still funding that at the expense of the majority who still rely on poor train service

  • Illuchne Mancera - 2013-03-19 08:28

    That MEC obviously doesn't know that you never underestimate an angry person with over priced fuel and a match... They've been burning other trains, why not Gautrains?

  • Tshepo Maganedisa - 2013-03-19 08:30

    Assuming that most of the bloggers here are in some sort of authoritative position and the employee pitchs up late at work and he/she is been threatned to get fired but have you ever ask yourself and see the reality some of our employees find themselves in just to be at work on time and you still have a nerve to come out and criticize them by threatening to take such action.The reason why people are resorting to such measure is because of the pressure coming from employers and since they dont want to loose their job these are the results -so lets think at times before we comment and let us not comment even nonsense because we have the platform but learn to take time and look at the underlying issues

      riad.mahomed - 2013-03-19 09:22

      @Tshepo Maganedisa: As much as I understand your argument and where you coming from, verily I understand where an employer stands as well when it comes to punctuality and considering that the exemption to one should be an exemption to all since this would fall within the guidelines of maintaining Employment Equity which is part of the labour regulation act. So considering these mandatory regulations that an employer needs to abide by as well, if you were an employer, how would you manage this situation?

  • anakin.skyvader.9 - 2013-03-19 08:48

    The break and burn brigade at it again...eish. That's why we can't have a bullet train service between Jhb Cape-Town, Durban etc. ie the rub is that the Chinese don't sabotage their own infrastructure. Imagine a bullet-train having an accident at 500km/h because of sabotage?? Yes, way to go Africa - great thinking, eish.

  • Mnyama White - 2013-03-19 08:59

    Absurd? Not as absurd as a president singing 'Umshini wam' Not as absurd as beetroot and garlic against HIV. Not as absurd as threatening to take people's property without compensation. Not as absurd as thieves playing golf while on medical parole. Not as absurd as R25bn stolen by government officials and their chronies. Not as absurd as shooting striking miners with R4 and R5 assault rifles. Not as absurd as blaming your own incompetence and lack of morals on a government of 20 years ago. Not as absurd as the voters voting again for the same people. We live in Absurdistan..

  • zip.reeper - 2013-03-19 09:40

    the only absurd thing is the illiterate electorate

  • Linda Kietzmann - 2013-03-19 16:03

    Does it make people feel safe to travel on the Gautrain with this threat? Since the threat of burning the Gautrain have people been using their cars again?

  • Karl Reed - 2013-06-20 18:17

    South Africans burn anything

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