Madonsela, Malema dismiss 'rubbish' spy claims

2015-03-06 09:27

Johannesburg - Spy claims against Thuli Madonsela, Julius Malema, Lindiwe Mazibuko, and Joseph Mathunjwa were dismissed as rubbish, according to their comments published by Netwerk24 on Friday.

"A grade nine pupil could see it is rubbish," said Public Protector Thuli Madonsela, after the State Security Agency (SSA) issued a statement on Thursday saying it was probing spying claims against the four.

SSA spokesperson Brian Dube said allegations against them led the agency to, and other social media platforms.

Madonsela said she would lodge a formal complaint against the SSA and ask it to withdraw the statement.

She said it was "interesting" that it surfaced days before President Jacob Zuma answered questions in Parliament.


Economic Freedom Fighters leader Julius Malema said: "I have never heard such madness in my life... Those people are clowns. Our biggest problem is that our 'intelligence' is not intelligent."

Mathunjwa, president of the Association of Mineworkers and Construction Union (Amcu), said it was "rubbish" and a "waste of state resources" to investigate such allegations.

Mazibuko, former Democratic Alliance parliamentary leader who is studying at Harvard, tweeted: "It's pretty embarrassing that a SA cabinet minister would issue a press statement responding to a false blog post from the lunatic fringe" followed by a "sad face" emoticon.

Claims include that the CIA in Langley, US, has a file on Mazibuko saying she is trying to organise a "Pretoria version of the Arab spring".

  • William Binedell - 2015-03-06 09:33

    new threshold of embarrassing incompetence

      Gary Scott - 2015-03-06 12:26

      This coming from the SSA with leaks all over the place showing how completely incompetent they are. What a joke

      Jonathan Woods - 2015-03-07 07:47

      Pa Phewa me thinks you would be a good candidate as you attempt to be intelligently unintelligent !

  • Malope Loopz Madiseng - 2015-03-06 09:34

    Looks like our government leaders are getting dumb by the second. This is embarrassing

      Janine Roberts Owen - 2015-03-06 12:24

      are they ` probing ` ? lol lol lol lol

      Jonathan Woods - 2015-03-07 07:50

      Pa phewa me thinks that you and they are only capable of doing that with a stick !

      Malope Loopz Madiseng - 2015-03-07 08:15

      Phewa, you sound worse than them now. Phew

  • Jeff Baxter - 2015-03-06 09:34

    Smoke and mirror tactics to blacken names and divert attention from the real issues

  • Xolile MaMsibi Namane - 2015-03-06 09:35

    Oh ANC, are u now after our beloved public protector? She's a spy because she exposes corruption, really ANC? Please look at the top (number one) and you will know what corruption looks like

      Johan Arno Cilliers - 2015-03-06 11:50

      Try explaining that to Linds Ron Shack,France,Kay Gee and co.

  • Chris Strydom - 2015-03-06 09:36

    And then clowns like these are in charge of our country and believe are there are many of them around

      Chris Strydom - 2015-03-06 09:51

      Meant that there are many of them in our civil service

  • Slowly Doezit - 2015-03-06 09:36

    The Bourne Stupidity.

      Deeked De Dose - 2015-03-06 10:03

      Or just born stupid....

  • John Evony - 2015-03-06 09:40

    Stay strong Thuli, you have us behind you!

      New_South_African_Glory - 2015-03-06 10:57

      I hope when she needs it these words has some meaning besides just taking her side. We need real action this time. We need to stand up go outside and show government what we think.

  • Thema Thobejane - 2015-03-06 09:41

    Sometimes anc you need no such statement,because your just pushing your supporters out,this is childish.

  • Jenny Anderson - 2015-03-06 09:45

    Thuli,when are you going to investigate Mildred Oliphant and her buddies for fleecing a million bucks!!!!Just asking suddenly this is out of the news, very strange

  • Zulu Jstathought957 - 2015-03-06 09:51

    Eish and closer we become to zanc dictatorship, we must stop dis skelms :-(

  • Theo Martinez - 2015-03-06 09:51

    The stupidity of SSA has reached new heights. The sky is the limit.

  • Maphoka Mokutle Beloved - 2015-03-06 09:52

    This is beyond madness.

  • Jeff Baxter - 2015-03-06 09:52

    Smoke and mirror tactics to blacken names and divert attention from the real issues

  • Tumisho Ramoshaba - 2015-03-06 09:52

    anc is looking after u Thuli ,they want to destroy ur institute just like they did in scopions ,we know dirty tricks ,delay tactics ,hiding corruption n many ect of msholozi

  • Maphoka Mokutle Beloved - 2015-03-06 09:52

    You can say that again.!!!

  • Bazil Raubach ZA - 2015-03-06 09:54

    I am deeply embarrassed to associated with most things South African as a result of this Zuma-thing. The timing of these utterly ludicrous claims before Zuma allegedly lies to the nation again to cover his allegedly corrupt dealings and theft from the public purses transparent.

  • Lesley Moepa - 2015-03-06 09:54

    Zuma is behind all this allegations,another crap move by anc

  • Ha A Fele - 2015-03-06 09:54

    Why not investigate Cwele, Guptas, Mkhize and Dlamini ? Where did the money go?

  • Molaodi David - 2015-03-06 09:54

    I do you leave me out I don't like No.1 too

  • Lee Pope - 2015-03-06 09:55

    Lol Malema

  • Manqoba Ntuli - 2015-03-06 09:56

    Lmao, Julius Malema "our intelligence is not intelligent"

  • Manqoba Ntuli - 2015-03-06 09:56

    Lmao, Julius Malema "our intelligence is not intelligent"

  • 02a00673-a6ba-4938-b419-4287ef46347d - 2015-03-06 09:59

    Thuli Madonsela is being used to bring down ANC esp. the president. Guess who?

      Heather Mae - 2015-03-06 10:37

      @Phumlani..did you have an extra bowl of stupid with your cornflakes this morning

      Bloody Agent - 2015-03-06 11:12

      Lmfao @ Heather!!!!!!!!

      Andre Neuhoff - 2015-03-06 11:19

      Phumlani probably works for the SSA.

      Jonathan Woods - 2015-03-07 08:01

      Phumlani, guess who appointed her to the position. That's right the president himself !

  • Kwaaitjie Kabouter - 2015-03-06 09:59

    People accused of being spies before (I rely on memory only) : Adv Vusi Pikoli - NPA Adv Leonard Mc Carthy - NPA Adv Glynis Breytenbach - NPA Adv Jan D'Oliveira - NPA Tokio Sexwale Matthews Phosa Cyril Ramaphosa David Mabuza Thuli Madonsela Malema

      Andrew Robert Slaughter - 2015-03-06 10:03

      Don't forget Pierre Spies

      Henry Dludlu - 2015-03-06 12:29

      They use the word spy incorrect they are actually looking for the word nemesis lol!!

  • 02a00673-a6ba-4938-b419-4287ef46347d - 2015-03-06 10:04

    Who said the public protector cant be investigated,she is not above the law,actually shes under and Zuma is on top.

      Andrew Robert Slaughter - 2015-03-06 10:09

      If I claim you are a spy because I don't like what you say, should the SSA spend resources investigating my claim?

      Zibora Bongani - 2015-03-06 10:12

      @phumlani,the way you write must be investigated.

      Zibora Bongani - 2015-03-06 10:15

      @phumlani,the way you write must be investigated.

      John Smith - 2015-03-06 10:19

      Ha ha ha ha! Zuma is not on top! He is a SERVANT of the people of the country that he has been granted PERMISSION to represent. SERVANTS SERVE! They do not rule! The constitution is the WILL of the people that the SERVANTS SERVE!

      Heather Mae - 2015-03-06 10:38

      Phumlani says he works at the Department of Ed-u-kashion!!!!

      Jonathan Woods - 2015-03-06 12:04

      Only a fool willingly makes even more of a fool of themselves because they don't even realise that they are stupid. Phumlani should be working at our intrepid SSA he could be agent 0.00000000001 which would be inline with his IQ !

      John Smith - 2015-03-06 13:02

      The public protector is a SERVANT of the people to investigate criminals in government. Like Zuma who has many criminal charges to answer to.

      John Smith - 2015-03-06 13:03

      The public protector is a SERVANT of the people to investigate criminals in government. Like Zuma who has many criminal charges to answer to.

  • Ella Zungu - 2015-03-06 10:10

    The ANC government will do anything to get rid of opposition. They are now becoming dictators. It's really sad how they drag people's names in such serious allegations and expose them to such danger. As long as they are in power all is well, to hell with everybody else. What a bad move yo, it's appalling that they think we are that ignorant. They are busy going down slowly but surely, last kicks of the dying horse.

  • Mike 881 - 2015-03-06 10:12

    It is a guarantee that it is the otherway around with the State agencies spying on the four. It is no secret that the State spies on anyone who it considers a threat to exposing the zanc corruption!

  • Nikimbeko Mkalipi - 2015-03-06 10:12

    Jacob Zuma is a disaster...Vavi,Malema,Sexwale,Mama Nkabinde,Mbeki, Lekota endless list, what more do you want?Who are you going to lead? When you are destroying every body now!live Thuli Madonsela alone, she is future presidend of SA!

  • Tumisho Ramoshaba - 2015-03-06 10:13

    if Thuli is wrong lets take the matter to the court n lets see who is going to win ,but i believe n i know Thuli is not afraid of court n answering any questions b4 any thing ,guilty people they'r afraid to answere questions

  • Nsizwenhle Mgoza - 2015-03-06 10:17

    Why are you so quick to rubbish the allegations? If you guys are not spies then let the investigation continue so that your names will be cleared. Let the SSA do their job. Anybody can be a spy indirectly or directly. As long as there are allegations they need to be investigated. Why would Thuli go as far as lodging a complaint about these allegations? Are you afraid something will be found which you know will suit the profile of a 'spy'? So Thuli thinks that although grade 9 pupils are stupid that they can see that the allegations are rubbish, they can achieve 100% on this one.

      Ishmael Bojana - 2015-03-06 10:25

      Well u are as stupid as they are them state security or whatever intelligence they are.

      Gescheiterter Staat - 2015-03-06 10:37

      Fortunately they haven't spied on Zuma, otherwise SSA would've been dismantled by afternoon...

      Johan Arno Cilliers - 2015-03-06 11:53

      Mgoza and Phemelo have a combined IQ of minus 12.

      Jonathan Woods - 2015-03-06 12:15

      Mgoza and Phemelo , as a long standing member of an illustrious spy agency I can tell you that we all are howling with laughter at your SA 'irrelligence" agency ( not a misspelling, just a new word.) The thing is guys the likes of you will never know who the real spies are. But just remember they are like the tokoloshi. you've never seen one, but you need to be sh*t scared just in case you ever do. Remember to put the bed up on the tin cans !

  • Tumisho Ramoshaba - 2015-03-06 10:18

    i'm not guilty of loving u thuli ,but i only believe that u r the only one to take this country forward .

  • Gary Ggwzinc Abrams - 2015-03-06 10:19

    Oh my word! The best thing Malema said so far about the issue: "Our 'intellegence' is not intelligent." Very correct, that.

      Lynda Tyrer - 2015-03-06 10:27

      For once he is spot on with that comment

  • Philip Van Niekerk - 2015-03-06 10:24

    So how much money is anyone willing to bet that the ANC will use 90% of question time in parliament to address this non-issue? Instead of answering the real questions... Pretoria version of the Arab spring, what a joke!

      Lynn Hugo - 2015-03-06 10:32

      We have a version of the Arab spring in every service delivery protest. The ANC is the cause of it!!! They don't need CIA help!!!

  • Zulu Jstathought957 - 2015-03-06 10:25

    we did have the hope for Cyril, but eish he is just like de zuma, dis country is in big trouble wena :-(

  • Heather Mae - 2015-03-06 10:29

    **SNORT** There goes a perfectly good cup of Grande coffee all over my keyboard...**walks away laughing out loud**...**off to get the popcorn**

  • Gescheiterter Staat - 2015-03-06 10:31

    Wonder why my comment was reported and removed? Maybe a bit guilty for singing along to Julius' "kill the boer, rape the white woman" while you're also chanting "freedom for the people"? This country's democracy is not democratic but rather ruled by corrupted "leaders"

      Gescheiterter Staat - 2015-03-06 10:34

      And they're all part of the same agenda: To take as much as they can from as many as they can while they're in power and make promises to keep the votes coming in

  • Andre De Klerk - 2015-03-06 10:32

    Typical ANC incompetence...embarrassing...idiots

  • Fred Eksteen - 2015-03-06 10:32

    Anything to get rid of them. ANC morons!

  • Daniel de Faria - 2015-03-06 10:34

    Yip rubbish fabricated by rubbish

  • Phelamanga - 2015-03-06 10:38

    It's totally amazing how low Zuma stooges will stoop just to protect just one, corrupt and highly compromised man. We have already become a Regeneration of the defunct Soviet German Democratic Republic.

  • Jacqui Daane Van Rensburg - 2015-03-06 10:39

    SSA is hilariously stupid.

      Jimbob - 2015-03-06 11:32

      State Stupid Agency

  • Rain King - 2015-03-06 10:40

    I see we have a dump president but still way much better than Pw Botha

  • Jimbob - 2015-03-06 10:41

    It's honestly cringe-worthy how thick they are. The fact that Zuma is apparently the best the ANC can offer is quite a scary thought.

  • Geogre Mtilen - 2015-03-06 10:44

    Jan van rebeek was better than Jakopo waka Zuma

  • Ebube Okeke - 2015-03-06 10:54

    bunch of jokers,they are trying their best to do their jobs and make sure that corrupt theives will be held accountable for their actions,instead they are now labelled spies.sick world

  • Simpiwe Sanderson - 2015-03-06 10:59

    The ZANC gets desperate day by day. Thuli Madonsela for President. .... clearly Jan Van Rebeek was better than Jacob wa Zuma

  • Bloody Agent - 2015-03-06 11:04

    Good lord, I love this woman. Tell them how it is Thuli! !

  • Thato Sekhu - 2015-03-06 11:13

    But I thought spies were inconspicuous,below the radar and close to institutions and people they are spying on..Imagine Malema being James Bond or Jason Bourne, the thought of that just makes me crack out loud....

  • Richard Lungani Zwane - 2015-03-06 11:16

    this is now a useless state, scary....

  • Mike Urich - 2015-03-06 11:18

    Julius is rubbishing our politics.