Madonsela rubbishes bias claims

2012-10-15 16:05

Pretoria - Public Protector Thuli Madonsela on Monday dismissed accusations of bias, reportedly made against her by her deputy, Mamiki Shai.

Madonsela was reacting to a Sunday Times report on claims, attributed to Shai, that she had changed the findings of a report into the DA-led Midvaal Municipality, and had deliberately withheld its release until after municipal elections.

"For one to say I sat on that report to ensure that the DA wins in Midvaal is really mischievous, but it must be tested. We work through a memo system in our offices, which indicates when a report was handed to me," she said.

"Reports are not thrown at you as you walk through the door. I think people should read the [Midvaal] report and then ask whoever is accusing me what was in that report that I removed which makes the final report unjust."

She said she wanted the African National Congress in Midvaal to be part of the investigation into the allegations of her bias.

The public protector said she stood by all her findings as they were credible.

"I have never made a decision that I cannot justify, or that can’t be justified by the report itself. I challenge you as journalists to read the reports, especially the one on Midvaal, which has the most absurd of allegations," she said.

Madonsela welcomed Parliament's decision to assign the justice portfolio committee to look into various allegations - made in a series of anonymous letters -against her and her office.

She had requested the probe in July.

Madonsela also rejected claims, attributed to Shai in the newspaper report, suggesting that the public protector was taking up issues beyond her jurisdiction.

  • sanchez.sancho.7 - 2012-10-15 16:09

    You rock Thuli, anyone who thinks otherwise is talking rubbish. you are the only person currently in south africa who can give these corrupt people in higher places sleepless nights. that deputy is full of rubbish. keep doing the nice work

      Kawasaki1985 - 2012-10-15 16:15

      Those in "Glass Houses ...." Thuli for president !!!

      sanchez.sancho.7 - 2012-10-15 16:17

      Quote of the day ...''Reports are not thrown at you as you walk through the door....'' kwaaaaaaa

      johny.stront - 2012-10-15 16:21

      Thuli For Pres!!!!! Fire tha Shai BIATCH!!

      Willie - 2012-10-15 16:24

      Sour grapes from Shai,her grapes wont even make a good wine.I suspect she is on pay roll of corrupt ANC politicians

      bob.mcmillen.564 - 2012-10-15 16:27

      sanchez, it was only a matter of time before they (the ANC) tried to discredit this lady, I reckon they got to this Shai person and promised her some of the gravy if she would try and discredit Thuli, Thuli is way too intelligent for this lot, she has the backing of all in this country that value honesty and integrity, she should start her own party or join the DA if they manage to get rid of her, this Shai will just do and say what the ANC tell her to.

      sanda.mnyazi - 2012-10-15 16:27

      where there is smoke there's fire

      nicholas.graan - 2012-10-15 16:35

      I am surprised these murmurings have only started now. Like with the Scorpions, guaranteed within a couple of months Thuli Madonsela is going to be fighting for her job. The ANC will start squeezing her through lack of addition funding her department so desperately needs as well as through intimidation. She has disturbed the Chief and that is not good for her.

      sean.goldie.9 - 2012-10-15 16:48

      Must be the deputy who gave the thumbs down for this one!!!

      susan.paul.330 - 2012-10-15 17:43

      I suspect Shai is working for Malema.

  • ChristelleJames - 2012-10-15 16:14

    I cannot believe that the one person who is trusted by most South Africans to be completely honest, can be called in question by probably some of the most questionable people on this planet. Thuli, don't back down lady - honesty is the only way to go!!!

      ChristelleJames - 2012-10-15 16:35

      I read some other allegations by Shai, and it appears as if she is adamant to get Thuli out, using DA bias as her weapon. No if THAT does not sound politically motivated, I just do not know. If Thuli gets removed as it now stands, the public will be in uproar and the ANC will without get the blame and lose support - if they discredit her first, and she then gets removed, the ANC are the good guys. Everybody has been saying: "Thuli, watch your back" Looks as if the time has come. She will certainly be in my prayers!!!!

  • Andrea - 2012-10-15 16:14

    I guess Shai wants her job. So typical. Shai, go WORK for it! Thuli's successes are NOT medals you can just take to wear any day of the week!

  • kala.bafazi - 2012-10-15 16:14

    Oh dear. Don't tell me even the Public Protector's office is heading for distractive in fighting.

      azande.futhi - 2012-10-15 16:18

      there will always be plots to discredit her office. she is now on top of her game and is catching wrong-doers. Many politicians are not happy with her work.

      kala.bafazi - 2012-10-15 16:28

      Azande - Now the accusations are coming from within her office. From her deputy no less.

      sanda.mnyazi - 2012-10-15 16:29

      Like there will always be plots to discredit the government

      azande.futhi - 2012-10-15 16:31

      @sanda, government is always plotting to discredit itself. Zuma is main culprit.

      kala.bafazi - 2012-10-15 16:52

      Er, for those who don't believe me, read the first paragraph.

      ChristelleJames - 2012-10-15 17:03

      Sanda, all due respect, the government needs no assistance in discrediting itself. That is actually the only job they are quite outstanding in.......

  • nicolaas.vanschalkwyk.5 - 2012-10-15 16:15

    I wouldnt be surprised to learn that it is Julius Malema that is accusing her. As soon as something goes against him then he turns on those very people that he told every one was the best thing since sliced bread

  • azande.futhi - 2012-10-15 16:16

    Plot to derail you my dear. Stay strong and maintain integrity and diligence. I hope government will give you more budget to expand your capacity rather pumping more money to establish additinal useless governments.

      ChristelleJames - 2012-10-15 17:05

      Azande, I am afraid that I doubt any more funding going to her office. I hope I am wrong though.......

  • johny.stront - 2012-10-15 16:17

    So if you are black and doing your job, you are BIAS? Jeezzzz WTF?

      azande.futhi - 2012-10-15 16:20

      and where do you get that "black theory" belief from?

      johny.stront - 2012-10-15 16:24

      From Mamiki Shai perhaps!

  • - 2012-10-15 16:18

    poser politicians trying to pull the teeth of the public protector... sy krap waar sy nie moet nie, and they don't like it

  • ingrid.oberholzer - 2012-10-15 16:18

    Sounds like Shai wants to earn brownie points Manga, Manga is coming up and she wants to be elected for something!!!!How does one go behind your Bosses back to the media and stab her!!!!

      joe.irwin.50 - 2012-10-15 18:42

      Not difficult in the "movement" Ingrid, they are doing it constantly.

  • jay.reede - 2012-10-15 16:18

    I am sure Shai is good friends with FATBOY Malema ...

  • sello.r.molefe - 2012-10-15 16:19

    Mmmhha it was the scorpion... They r now targeting Thuli...

  • greypatriot - 2012-10-15 16:20

    Be strong and defiant - reveal everything. Clean out the corrupt and the corruption. You are the best thing that happened to South Africa after Mandela. SA is on your side. You will be well rewarded.

  • ronald.stilianou - 2012-10-15 16:20

    Me thinks that the deputy is hunting for the job......,or the deputy is in the pockets of someone trying to hide his/her evil-doings. Gotto love the antics of these anc clowns.

      lungelo.yili - 2012-10-15 16:26

      muzzle thuli now, get a lekker spot on the gravy express post Mangweng

  • andrew.mackie.90 - 2012-10-15 16:23

    Her deputy should be investigated on her allegations, as it would seem some mischief is being going on. As I see it this case is similar to that of Glynis Bruitenbach and is presently under suspension and disciplinary action.

  • sydney.matubandlela - 2012-10-15 16:24

    I support Thuli and the work she's been doing so far, but as they saying goes there's no smoke without fire. Even more true in this case since the allegations are reportedly coming from her deputy, someone who would have substantial information about the what the public protector's office does! So yeah, no even the public protector is infallible and independent!!

      Erna - 2012-10-15 17:31

      The deputy is apparently also someone with a lot of connections in the anc, so you tell me why she would be discrediting Thuli? Pretty obvious to me.

      sean.mitchell.3591 - 2012-10-15 21:25

      Well Sydney, In that case Mbeki fired his deputy,Zuma, on allegations of corruption. Smoke? Fire? Maybe raging inferno?

  • shirley.steenkamp - 2012-10-15 16:24

    Here starts the rot! Now its Madonselas turn to be discreditied! She is speaking far too many home truths!!!

      azande.futhi - 2012-10-15 16:28

      she committed crime for telling too much truth.

  • - 2012-10-15 16:25

    i think they want her out of the job now because she is competent & fair in doing her job

  • PERCYMN - 2012-10-15 16:29

    Govt disbended scorpion while they were doing great job only bcos they investigated ANC ,im not suprised by the allegations thrown at Madonsela.

  • andre.vandeventer.16 - 2012-10-15 16:29

    She needs all the support she can get because she is the only voice of reason in a corrupt system. But that's also the reason why they wan't to get rid of her. Thuli, knock them out!

  • neo.motsepe - 2012-10-15 16:29

    Is this one of the ANC-led agendas. Soon we will be hearing of \the corrupt\ Madonsela. Stand your ground Madam!

  • Nadah Senwane - 2012-10-15 16:32

    the ANC are playing us here, now they want to divert Madonselas attention, from the Nkandla saga, we are not fools. why didn't this surface during the malema investigations?

  • Jaco Liza Venter - 2012-10-15 16:34

    U go girl if u stand for Presedent for the ANC goverment i will jion the ANC tommorow,this country need a women for Presedent.Viva Tuli Viva

  • Eterni80 - 2012-10-15 16:36

    Gotta love this lady ! Kickin' ass and taking names !

      azande.futhi - 2012-10-15 16:39

      thats what you do when you maintain integrity and principle which most of the leaders lack hence they can't rubbish any wrong doing.

  • sifiso.sosibo.10 - 2012-10-15 16:37

    Madonsela's deputy will always have problems with her superiors! Even lap-dog Mushwana can attest to that. The only solution's to give her the ultimate rank which will finally pleased her! Lol!

  • nyiko.ngobeni.5011 - 2012-10-15 16:41

    She is human, and also a political appointee after all. We should be blind to this. .

  • nyiko.ngobeni.5011 - 2012-10-15 16:45

    Rather we shouldn't be blind to this. .

  • peter.t.solomon - 2012-10-15 16:47

    They plan to do away with her just as they did with the Scorpions, because she's exposing their corruption and maladministration, and she's forcing them to take action against themselves. Let's hope they fail.

      BigChiefPlumbPudding - 2012-10-15 16:54

      I agree. Dirty politics again, trying to bring down one of the few remaining people who have some integrity and honesty.

  • acsteyn - 2012-10-15 16:50

    Thuli is great. I suppose Shai is short for Shyte?

  • joe.smit.549 - 2012-10-15 16:52

    Thuli, I wish you all the best.......\r\n\r\nWhy's Ju Ju so quiet? Had a rough day, and could do with a laugh.

  • collins.ntelele - 2012-10-15 17:00

    I said it before,that this lady must have been promised something (big) by the DA but because the government of the day,with its power hungry -blood-suckers,are obsessed with this Mangaung tenderpreneurship conference that they are turning a blind eye to this slow poison, that is so much revered.Midvaal is corrupt but our dearest Thuli,sees nothing wrong.If this attributions are made by her deputy,then what we the public must think.Wake up before its too late.Do something about this woman.

      toofaan.monsoon - 2012-10-15 17:08

      I disagree. She always quotes facts and figures. There is no beating around the bush political clap-trap with her. And she leaves herself open to full investigation. Even if you're right, all she has uncovered so far is the indisputable truth, so she's doing her job really well as far as I can see.

      Erna - 2012-10-15 17:23

      The facts speak for themselves. She can't help it that the anc is 100 times more corrupt than any other party.

      jayjay.mlungu - 2012-10-15 19:13

      Collins DA doesnt operate like the ANC. Something big was probably paid by a comrade to Shai to present false accusations! Dumwit

  • toofaan.monsoon - 2012-10-15 17:02

    Well Done once again Madam. By the way, you should really question the committee about why they're investigating anonymous letters against you. Anyone can write up trash. U should ask to only be investigated when you can face your accusers, so that the whole country can see who they are. People of integrity support you fully. The corrupt would love to see the back of you.

  • Bongeka - 2012-10-15 17:05

    Wow!!! If I remember correctly I did mention that she is going to be re-deployed to another office or investigated for something, in one of the comments I made last week on the Malema issue. Now tell me South Africa. How do we keep good governance if the people who are fighting corruption and doing good for the country are being sidelined? GOD HELP SOUTH AFRICA.

      ChristelleJames - 2012-10-15 17:10

      Bongeka, a lot of people have been saying that the time has come for her to watch her back - and it looks as if her fighting time has come. And you are right 'GOD HELP US!!!"

      Erna - 2012-10-15 17:11

      While the current lot are in charge corruption will never be expunged. Madonsela should investigate her deputy!

  • john.smit.121772 - 2012-10-15 17:07

    The corrupt will always attack the righteous, because the righteous restrict their dark deeds. Go Madonsela, we want you as President, because no one else has proved to be worthy.

      jayjay.mlungu - 2012-10-15 19:15

      I agree. I would vote ANC again if she stood

  • sthembiso.jali.50 - 2012-10-15 17:10

    Madonsela should just ignore all of this, these clowns will keep on destructing her as they get away with corruption.

  • jaco.human.562 - 2012-10-15 17:12

    You ROCK Thuli.

  • magomarele - 2012-10-15 17:13

    Thuli is doing a fantastic work. This Mamiki Shai is a stooge. She is being used by fat-cat corruptionists who're busy exploiting tax-payers' money and are scared that Thuli keeps exposing them. They want to install their own puppet Public protector.

  • Erna - 2012-10-15 17:17

    This is the start of the corrupt anc trying to get rid of Madosela. Watch this space. Hopefully she, and her supporters, are strong enough to fight this!

  • ndyeboreginaldmazawule - 2012-10-15 17:20

    Yeah challenge that dumb no good journalist Thuli they just doing their job for sale and false exposure with no facts. Go Thuli Go Thuli, damn dear you Rock

  • siphom.mnguni - 2012-10-15 17:23

    Advocate T. Your sterling work speaks volumes about your honesty, integrity and values you espouse. Keep up the good work. About this Mamiki who is accusing you, let me say this, the job you are doing leads you to step on the toes of those whose hands are deep in the cookie jar. Why do you expect? This is a knee-jerk reaction of them. So what do they do? Get somebody from within to do their bidding. What a better way to do it! During biblical times one Judas Iscariot was recruited from within and was given thirty pieces of silver for his troubles. Then read between the lines,Judas this time might become a lap-dog Public Protector doing a bidding for her puppet masters. Just prepare for a not-so-nice puppet dance to the tune of her puppet masters. Keep on dancing you idiot to the tune-less song of your puppet masters, moron.

  • jacob.molife - 2012-10-15 17:26

    If you're part of an organisation you raise those issues within before going gutvol n public. Unless you're self-rightuous JU-JU-DAS. I stutter.

  • tmmotsa - 2012-10-15 17:26

    What do news reporters aim to do with Madonsela?\r\ntry to strip of the power she has to protect the interests of the public or mess with mere mortal minds?

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  • Deon de Lange - 2012-10-15 17:54

    Et tu, Brutus. On the face of it, sounds like the deputy is aiming for the Advocate's job when Luthuli House eventually finds a way to get rid of her. Keep up the good work while you can, Ma Madonsela.

  • thabo.modiba.7 - 2012-10-15 18:09

    Mamiki you can learn a lot from Adv Thuli. Raise your issues internally and get clarity before going out public, its called professionalism. Bosso ke mang (who is the boss), Thuli. Respect...

  • Tim Elliott - 2012-10-15 18:14

    Sadly this is what happens to decent,honest people who place honesty & integrity first.It gets uncomfortable for all the thieving rats in the ANC cupboard & they then connive to remove the 'problem'.Boy..are we in s..t!!!

  • arliena.botha - 2012-10-15 18:22

    Thuli you know ANC is just a lot of liars.They are picking on you now because they hate honesty and you are more than honest.

  • maureen.churchill.9 - 2012-10-15 18:27

    Careful Thuli your deputy wants your job, She thinks shes better than you, also jealous of the recognition you are getting for your good work. FIRE HER1111

      jayjay.mlungu - 2012-10-15 19:19

      Gross misconduct and breakdown of a working relationship are grounds for dismissal. Maybe Judas (Shai) wants this because it will distract Thuli from her job. Shai has probably already received her pension payout from her masters!

  • faith.leburu - 2012-10-15 19:24

    Hahahah Thuli you are the bomb, they are trying to derail you from probing Watch a Thuli for president movement!

  • Krishna - 2012-10-15 19:39

    Viva Thuli! South Africa is totally behind you and support you-naturally the corrupt/questinable are excluded!

  • charnelle.bester - 2012-10-15 21:32

    Thuli - I tip my hat to you! You are the only hope this country has!