Madonsela stunned by leaked memo

2011-07-12 14:32

Pretoria - Public Protector Thuli Madonsela was surprised to learn on Tuesday that a case number on a police memo leaked to the media, which implicated her in corruption, had nothing to do with her.

When told in Pretoria the case number 515/01/2008 was related to a fraud investigation involving the department of justice and constitutional development (DOJ), a stunned Madonsela said: “Oh, my God.”

Asked if she was aware that the case number did not relate to her she said: “No, I didn’t know anything. I had never been told there was any case.

“But an impression was created that there was a nexus between that case and the case that was allegedly being investigated against me.”

The case was opened at the Pretoria Central police station on January 11 2008 by the DOJ, but it could not be confirmed who specifically in the department had opened the case.

Probe about IT

On Monday, a Hawks spokesperson said the case number that appeared on memo that was leaked to the media and published had nothing to do with her.

"It is a completely different investigation about IT and not Madonsela," he said.

The memo, which is dated April 1 2011 and titled "Report regarding information relating to Waweth Resources CC", states that Madonsela's companies, Waweth Resources CC and Waweth Law and Policy Research Agency, supplied consulting services to the justice department between August 2004 and July 2009.

The value of these services according to the document was worth R1.8m.

Waweth is a company Madonsela has admitted to owning that did contract work for the justice department.

Last week Justice Minister Jeff Radebe said Madonsela did not break any laws when her company offered services to the justice department while she worked for the SA Law Reform Commission (SALRC).

No comment on further action

Because Madonsela was not appointed as commissioner to the SALRC in terms of the Public Service Act and public service regulations, she was not bound by them, Radebe said in a statement.

Madonsela said: “We need to know who circulated that document that was trying to scandalise me. From day one it was clear it was malicious and it was clear it was half truths and lies.”

Madonsela said she could not comment on what action she would take, except to “take the offer by minister of police [Nathi Mthethwa] to try and find out where that case note comes from. Who ordered who to do what and for what purpose and then I’ll take it from there”.

“It would help if police management finds out who has tried to dig dirt, so to speak, about me and for what purpose.”

She and her team would continue to do their work despite the events of last week. Her office had received enormous support since the events of last week, Madonsela said.

  • DAB - 2011-07-12 14:39

    When you are a "marked" person, the "powers that be", will go out of their way to try and discredit you. Show them a big toffee!

      willieman - 2011-07-12 15:12

      DAB ,I'm suprised by the silence of ANCWL,so where is sisterhood or you only have deadwoods in this organisation.They only support their members when they are under attack from Malema ga!!! it is a shame from this deadwoods

      Organist-1 - 2011-07-13 08:35

      DAB, this seems to be a worldwide dirty politics phenomenon. Nearly all the later USA presidents used it as well as some European top brass. If you are in the soup and look for a scapegoat, you go all out with no holds barred to discredit that person. I remember Bush been quoted as saying "Find **&*# dirt on that guy and if you cant, then MAKE dirt". We Are living in a sick world and country where money , cheating and lies are the bottom line. Look at bigmouth Malema spending R78,000 CASH nogal on a 5 star holiday while his supporters lavish in hunger and poverty. This country needs more people with integrity like Mandonsela. First signs of a corrupt Government is when they want to penalize and Jail whistle blowers and muzzle the press.

      alicia - 2011-07-13 12:00

      Be very vigilant Ms. Madonsela. We, the ordinary people of this country Thank You for what you are aspiring to do. It will be a life task, and there is much to be done. I hope that in my lifetime, you and people like you will govern this country all together. Ask for help if you need it....we will protect you, for you are treading on the toes of very dangerous people. Please carry on. ''Corruption is authority plus monopoly minus transparency.” - Unknown “The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher esteem those who think alike than those who think differently.” - Friedrich Nietzsche "Power does not corrupt men; fools, however, if they get into a position of power, corrupt power." - George Bernard Shaw "Power corrupts the few, while weakness corrupts the many. Hatred, malice, rudeness, intolerance, and suspicion are the faults of weakness. The resentment of the weak does not spring from any injustice done to them but from their sense of inadequacy and impotence. We cannot win the weak by sharing our wealth with them. They feel our generosity as oppression." - Eric Hoffer

      Rajty - 2011-07-13 13:07

      Well now- irresponsible media or someone trying to cash in- ever wondered what is in it for the people who leak info to the media- why would they do it for free?

  • mdu_afrika - 2011-07-12 14:42

    Advocate Madonsela, please continue with your good work, SA needs you. PS: don't forget to tighten security around yourself (I have a database of da biggest, scarriest Nigerians), we can't afford to loose you now sisi.

      Together - 2011-07-12 15:04

      agreed - and whenever something weird happens, tell EVERYONE. It's the only way to deal with criminals who like to work undercover and in secret.

      Uthando - 2011-07-12 15:20

      yeah...and watch out for your family as well There's what mafia criminals (ANC corrupt officials) call: "Make it look like an accident"

      Zinhle - 2011-07-12 16:02

      I was amazed that this women who is doing such an important task does not have any protection.All previous advocates in this position had body guards.She was told that gov will investigate if it necessary for her to have body guards.It been a year now.

      Uthando - 2011-07-12 16:23

      Zinhle - Zuma knew what he was doing when he appointed his cabinet. I think he must've missed that Thuli may be a sore thorn in the mix.

  • Born To Fish - 2011-07-12 14:43

    It is just Cele and his cadres trying to get away with corruption!!! VIVA ANC!!!!!!!!

  • Azizi - 2011-07-12 14:43

    Madonsela now there was no case against you, your stories are going round in circles.

      Natand - 2011-07-12 14:54

      You are a retard

      BroederBond - 2011-07-12 15:15

      hey buddy honestly, no words for you.......

      jakkals - 2011-07-12 15:34

      Are you following the plot? looks like your not...

      tonno - 2011-07-12 15:37

      @Aziz - what a tonsil you are.

      Azizi - 2011-07-12 15:41

      Yes with both eyes open not just theone.

      Currie_Mafia - 2011-07-12 16:05

      well it seems like the vote for "Mampara of the day" is unanimous...Enjoy your comment necessary.

      Azizi - 2011-07-12 16:41

      Thanks Currie_Bunny

      R.Suppards - 2011-07-12 17:24

      Does "Azizi" mean "BIG TWAT" in Pedi?

      Azizi - 2011-07-12 17:50

      Thats my line get your own.

      Meanleader - 2011-07-13 13:51

      Azizi got a Chimp on your shoulder ..... erhmmm ... chip !

  • Neil - 2011-07-12 14:50

    Half Truths and Lies? So which is it? Half truths or Lies? Or a bit of both perhaps?

  • Notbuyinface - 2011-07-12 14:56

    The media published a falsified info to us the public based on a no case story to create an impression that she is under threat. If she is investigated so what, she is not about the law.

      crackerr - 2011-07-12 15:22

      Don't blame the media. Praise the media that they are prepared to take the risk. Without the media, protected sources, and brave journalists we would be totally at the mercy of the unscrupulous forces in their lairs of secrecy which we would not be able to expose out of fear that we do not know the full 100% truth. Let's realistic. False rumours and lies can be rectified. But there is no way to unseat the powers once they are safely esconsed in their secrecy lairs. Then we will have real problem. Rather live with the current imperfect situation than the irreversible and permanent consequences of a secrecy state. Only the self-appointed and small number of elites will benefit. Media freedom and free flow of information above all. With these we ordinary people can still excercis some control over or own lives and do something about shortcomings. Without these we are at the mercy of the merciless.

      Meanleader - 2011-07-13 13:55

      @notarseinface....don't worry , we don't blame you , it's your parents that should have been steralised before you got shat out !!!

  • - 2011-07-12 14:58

    Madonsela for president, go lady!!

      tonno - 2011-07-12 15:46

      I couldn't agree more! I saw an interview with her on tv recently and she just oozes integrity, honour, truthfulness, intelligence, etc, etc, etc. It is likely the ANC will be ruling for a while to come but this country would do well to have her as president.

      Sooth Slayer - 2011-07-13 14:34

      and you saw all this from an interview? just one single interview? Mmm! ok!

  • Phiwe - 2011-07-12 14:59

    An homage to true investigative journalism in SA...publish without knowing the facts and capture the public's imagination. Here, here to a stella job.

      Azizi - 2011-07-12 15:09

      They have to sensationalise the plight of the 'poor' pale faces.

      Together - 2011-07-12 15:10

      Phiwe, they published what they had verified - I think you'll find that some behind-the-scenes acrobatics have gone down here. Why do I think that? Because another thorn-in-corruption's-side, Willie Hofmeyr, is also being investigated. And ignore his colour - just study his career and then ask yourself: what's up? Of course, if we all perform enough, a docket will surface showing that it's actually Wimmie Hofmeyr, and it has nothing to do with him. Won't everyone be so embarrassed....

      crackerr - 2011-07-12 15:13

      What were the facts? A leaked memo. Find the guilty paries but don't blame the media. What if it was the truth? Perhaps the publication saved the Public Protector. Rather mistakes and faults than being at the mercy of dark forces about which you will never be able to publish anything because you will never know 100% what the truth is. Let's wait a bit longer before we finally conclude the whole thing was a hoax. It could be that the whole exercise is aimed by the powers in control to sniff out a snitch in the police force/department of justice. Don't be surprised if all this is just a Spy v Spy episode. Nonetheless, a free press with protection for its sources remains our only true and somewhat effective protection against tyranny and dictatorship. Unfortunate but fact.

      Neil - 2011-07-12 15:23

      @Aziz: They do not need to sensationalize the pale faces, your stupid ANCYL does that all by his stupid self and you follow strong in his footsteps with your comments just proving your stupidity once more. Let me guess.. I am going to be called a racist now?

      Azizi - 2011-07-12 16:43

      Neil my socks are red.

  • d54 - 2011-07-12 15:11

    With regards to the bard Robbie Burns "Oh what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceave".

      Ralph - 2011-07-12 15:54

      No sir, not Robbie Burns but Sir Walter Scott.Oh what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceave".

      DW - 2011-07-12 16:23


  • MissGremlinSays - 2011-07-12 15:13

    Was clear from the onset that the allegations were just a smear campaign.

  • Pragmatist - 2011-07-12 15:38

    Hey Madonsela! I suggest you start by looking in the closets of Zuma and Mbeki...

      MrSpiderman - 2011-07-12 15:50

      @Pragmatist : You are now TOTALLY unreasonable! You want this lady to work for the rest of her life (and even then she needs another 200 years!)

  • Ingie - 2011-07-12 15:39

    @ madman you never stop do you you racist pig

      DW - 2011-07-12 16:25

      Ingie, ignore him. He is a white troll pretending to be black for sensationalist comments.

  • Robbie - 2011-07-12 15:45

    So... how come the PP has interests in any companies? Should such a post not be attachment free?

  • matla - 2011-07-12 15:50

    @Mad man I agree with you. They are using the media to turn our country into a banana rep. They did it in the UK with NoW and they are using the same modus operandi in SA - bribing officials to release confidential info in order to create instability in SA. I still dont understand the delay with the Info Act. We must still insist that they pass teh bill

      Neil - 2011-07-12 15:55

      @matla: The ANC is the INSTABILITY in this country. Come on, they can't even keep an idiot like Malema on a leash.

      Neil - 2011-07-12 15:56

      @Matla: It is already a banana republic thanks to the likes of the ANC and JM

      willieman - 2011-07-12 17:50

      Maybe you do not know the meaning of banana republic

      AllHoliday - 2011-07-13 13:23

      Without the media informing us, we will know nothing. Intelligent people are able to know the difference between gossip and facts. And then we all know when someone is only using the media to stir the pot. Leave the media to inform us, there are still a lot of good reporters out there who are not scared to tell the truth (facts)!!

  • Bewildered - 2011-07-12 15:51

    2 flies with one stone - the cops have managed with sublime finesse to make the public prosecuter look like a criminal and the newspapers look extremely foolish, all in one go. More ammo for the restriction of the media. Way to go, reporter, ever heard of SUBSTANTIATING a story before you publish it??????

      Together - 2011-07-12 15:56

      they published what they had verified - I think you'll find that some behind-the-scenes acrobatics have gone down here. Why do I think that? Because another thorn-in-corruption's-side, Willie Hofmeyr, is also being investigated. And ignore his colour - just study his career and then ask yourself: what's up? Of course, if we all perform enough, a docket will surface showing that it's actually Wimmie Hofmeyr, and it has nothing to do with him. Won't everyone be so embarrassed....

  • DW - 2011-07-12 16:04

    The fact that the memo was "leaked" should be questioned in the first place. It is probably fraudulent and was only leaked in the hopes that Madonsela would be intimidated and frightened off. Jeff Radebe has already stated that there is no case against her and she is not being investigated. Dont let them intimidate you, lady. These thieving bastards need to be locked up.

  • Liberty - 2011-07-12 16:18

    The police are desperately trying to cover their backsides now.

  • Badger - 2011-07-12 18:04

    "EISH" it wuz nort mee, Jeff is my frend.!!!

  • Mad Dog - 2011-07-12 19:51

    Time to give the anc a fright! Vote DA in the next elections!

      nvl - 2011-07-12 20:16

      Hmmm I don't think its up to us anymore Mad Dog, call me a conspiracy theorist or whatever but I heard AngloAmerican supported the ANC and cadres during the apartheid years. ANC probably gave AngloGold and DeBeers a better mining deal than the Nats who by the way wanted to nationalise the mines as well, no wonder Verwoerd got assassinated. ANC better pull up their socks, if not the DA will offer Anglo a better deal on mining and then they will become our next ruling party.

  • AllHoliday - 2011-07-13 13:14

    Now madam, thank the media for warning you in time to take action. And while you're at it, use your 'power' to protect the media!! We all need to be informed, it's our right as tax payers!

  • Mad man - 2011-07-13 13:33

    Allihoiday: You don`t need media to inform you, the ANC will do that - it`s their mandate

  • Fred Marais - 2011-07-13 15:45

    This also raises the issue of government officials having interests in outside companies, and then claiming that this has no effect on their judgement or partiality. I admire this lady and hope that she continues in her role.

  • claude.mohonathan - 2011-07-14 16:13

    My opinion is that there are a lot of questions regarding the justice system in south africa and I never saw the president of south africa ever holding a public debate with the public or the opposition parked, if he does, he will make a mockery of the ANC and himself. He is being shielded by the heavy weights of his colleagues, I think his only interest is sex with his 5 wives and not sure the no of girl friends he has. It will be dome and glum if he rules for the next 5 years.I am ashamed to say mt president name is JZ, a concerned South African

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