Madonsela to assess toll probe request

2012-05-09 12:50

Johannesburg - Public Protector Thuli Madonsela has agreed to consider the DA's request for a probe into the Gauteng e-tolling contracts, the party said on Wednesday.

"Public Protector Thuli Madonsela has responded to my request for an investigation into the Gauteng e-toll contracts, including a possible link with arms deal corruption," Democratic Alliance Gauteng caucus leader Jack Bloom said.

He received an e-mail from her on Wednesday to say the matter would be assessed to establish jurisdiction and merit, among other things.

"Like the arms deal, questions about possible corruption in the e-toll contracts will not go away until there is a credible investigation," he said.

Speculation increased

"Speculation that something is being hidden has increased with the unexplained resignation of [SA National Roads Agency Limited] CEO Nazir Alli.

"The truth needs to come out."

The protector's spokesperson Kgalalelo Msibi confirmed the communication with Bloom.

On Thursday, the DA said it had asked for an investigation on the grounds that suspicion was high that politically-connected people may have benefited from the plan to toll major highways around Johannesburg.

Bloom said there were reportedly allegations of links between Swedish companies involved in an arms deal and Austrian company Kapsch TrafficCom. He said there were also 35 sub-contracts with confidentiality clauses.

Alli resigned suddenly on Monday, just over a week after the Opposition to Urban Tolling Alliance (Outa) was granted an urgent interdict to stop the launch of tolling on 185km of highways around Johannesburg.

The project has since been put on hold and it is not yet clear what Sanral's next move will be.

Reasons were not given for Alli's resignation. He will remain in office until June 3.

  • Henri - 2012-05-09 12:58

    They will have to open an enquiry department then an apeal group then aan investigating information centre, everything just so that no-one has to do anything but have big named posts. same old same old.

      Nigel - 2012-05-09 14:37

      Creating employment?

      eric.vanvuuren - 2012-05-09 16:21

      This is a matter that affects all South Africans. Not a corporate issue. I.e. “the Public". Why did it take you so long before you got on the scene? "Public Protector" you should protect us (The Public) against this type of Corrupt Political Abuse. And then when you’re done turn your eyes to the Eastern Cape, and sort out though gemors eating away at the tax money. Wow open your eyes get an assistant or ten, Tax money well spent if you are actually protecting the public.

  • ndyeboreginaldmazawule - 2012-05-09 13:01

    Well I trust in mrs Madontsela, if only she could just come up with the goods that will benefit the road users rather than the corruption speculation that are being labelled to this e-toll.

      Alan - 2012-05-09 13:33

      Yip - she is one person that I trust. Let's hope that 'political interference' does not get in the way of truth.

      Bob - 2012-05-09 13:55

      Yep she seems like a good sort, I reckon this is going to get a little messy, can this useless government do just one thing without corruption and stealing, just one.

  • kingsley.mgidi - 2012-05-09 13:02

    DA is commenting about the e-tolling, but our president have no say! I wonder why! Or may he is involve! Who knows!

      Piet - 2012-05-09 13:17

      Of course he is. The whole bunch of Cadres have fingers in this pie.

      NrGx - 2012-05-09 13:27

      OF course he is involved, as are the same people involved in the arms deal. This e-toll reeks of the same smell from the arms deal.

      Geoff - 2012-05-09 14:01

      I'll put money on it.

      Nigel - 2012-05-09 14:40

      Well he never really says much anyway, about anything.

  • kingsley.mgidi - 2012-05-09 13:02

    DA is commenting about the e-tolling, but our president have no say! I wonder why! Or may he is involve! Who knows!

  • Piet - 2012-05-09 13:18

    They can still fly a kite if they think I am going to pay to use these roads. I am also NOT going to pay ACE parking to leave my car parked so that they can extort more tax from me!

  • Tuco - 2012-05-09 13:19

    Thuli Madonsela I hope nobody fires shots at you during this assesment. We don't really know who all the players are and will not be surprised if a few threats come your way. We are going to cross our fingers for you.

      Lerato - 2012-05-09 13:30

      i also do hope that this doesnt get her Killied in the process, i wont be suprised if she has not received any threats already!!!

  • Thoka - 2012-05-09 13:21

    I know Mrs Madonsela is fearless but I am starting to get worried about her safety. expose those crooks

      Jean - 2012-05-09 14:35

      There's safety in numbers, her office should be expanded to each province!!! More corruption is exposed the less of the ANC will exist!!!

  • Phumi - 2012-05-09 13:28

    The DA must hire their own private investigators and leave the PP alone. Thuli must refuse to be used as a cheap scate for narrow political gains by the DA! There are many pressing issues affecting the poor and marginalised that are taking a backsit at the PP's office! These e-tolls affect the well-to-do and the rich and definately not the poor so they should not be a priority for her!

      Piet - 2012-05-09 13:32

      Phumi my brainwashed friend, have a purple smartie....

      Seducect - 2012-05-09 13:33

      Phumi, you clearly show how stupid & ignorant you are. If the tolls are implemented, the prices of everything will shoot up - WHY? Because it will cost more to transport goods! This will not affect only the well-to-do & the so called rich, but you too in one way or the other. I guess you must be one of the rich or as you said "well-to-do" person!

      Alan - 2012-05-09 13:37

      What utter rubbish Phumi - Her job is to expose criminal activities, even if they happen to be her bosses! The toll rip-off will affect every single S.A. resident if it is allowed to go ahead (by being a huge inflation driver). In fact, the poorest people suffer the most from that. C rime is crime, and it needs to be investigated and exposed for the good of all people.

      jackal666.daniel - 2012-05-09 13:42

      Phumi maybe the ANC should stop marginalizing and stealing money and resources from the people they swore to free! If you haven't noticed the PP and the DA are the only ones who have those people you so gingerly refer to well-being on their minds. IDJIT!!!

      Themba - 2012-05-09 13:46

      Phumi, food amongst other goods which are going to be ferried by trucks using the tolls is going to increase and affect the poor and the rich. While the rich might still manage to dig a little deeper, the poor won't. Surely you are able to understand that we pay taxes (VAT), the fuel levy, annual car licence registration fees, etc which we expect to be used for infrastructure and other public goods? We have already paid for those tolls a hundred fold, and keep paying for them. The government is now milking the stone and everyone just about had it except for you and those who are going to benefit. Long live the PP

      Tuco - 2012-05-09 13:53

      Phumi you either and ANC loyalist or one of those standing to benefit directly from these eTolls. The eTolls will affect the poor more than anyone else chief (see comments already made above). wake up!!!!

      Louis - 2012-05-09 13:55

      Phumi, please don't embarrass yourself any further with such stupid, brainless comments. If you don't know what you're talking about, its best to be quiet.

      Bob - 2012-05-09 14:03

      Phumi your blindness leaves me dumbstruck,why oh why do you blindly follow a corrupt government that does so little for the very people that voted them into power, why can't you see what they are doing or rather what they are not doing.

      GavinBu - 2012-05-09 14:07

      I agree with Phumi that the DA is using this as a Political tool \Look at us, we exposing a ANC scam\ but also disagree with her in some aspects! the rich and poor will suffer from this e-tolling system! When petrol goes up, prices of food and stuff go up! If the e-tolling project launches, the price of food and many other thinks go up because it will cost more to deliver goods, will cost you more to get to work! Don't think of yourself only, think of the people who will be effected by this! DA, concentrate on winning votes with true promises and not by trying to point fingers and say \har har, look what they did\

      Stephen - 2012-05-09 14:23

      Shut your skew big mouth...

      tebza.radebe - 2012-05-09 14:47

      Phumi how stupid can u get please don't expose your dumbness

      Hettie - 2012-05-09 15:07


  • GavinBu - 2012-05-09 13:30

    Can someone please explain to me how the hell this e-tolling saga can be related to a arms deal! This is clearly a way for fat cats to get fatter by squeezing money for the already strapped for money public!\r\nWhat they should investigate is how this project got approved without going though an appropriations committee, we talking about R20 million of Social bonds allocated to Pension bonds, not R20000 that a local counsellor skims off the top of a municipality account!

      Seducect - 2012-05-09 13:35

      Front companies who are related to the arms deal companies...Go do research & you will an intriguing web of front companies owned by ANC & other memers of corrupt SA & overseas!

      gkleingeld - 2012-05-09 13:37

      Corruption is corruption, that 'little' R20000 ends up being billions; see Eastern Cape, see Limpopo.

      Piet - 2012-05-09 13:37

      Billion in R20 000 000 000 000.00 south african raaand!

      GavinBu - 2012-05-09 13:50

      Sorry Piet, I meant to say R20 billion!\r\nThanks people, I will research further!

  • gkleingeld - 2012-05-09 13:34

    Yes, hopefully justice will provail and then heads will role.

  • Jan - 2012-05-09 13:35


  • fawznzak - 2012-05-09 13:36

    Over-and-above the loan repayments, Sanral needs to urgently review all the rental agrements for the walk in stores and the staff salaries, etc. Especially since pension funds have been used to invest in this system.

  • Gavin - 2012-05-09 13:42

    how can they drop the price from 66c to 33c a kilometer and think we won't ask questions ?? I'd also like to know how the claculator on the e toll website asks me where my journey will start and where it will end - it then tells me that I'll pay R20 a day. Logic tells me that in order to measure how far I tavel on the highways, is for them to measure where I get on and where I get off ? If you look at the tolls posted on the boards before each gantry, I should pay about R6 - the e toll calculator says R20. Something smells anc-ish here...

  • MSGRule - 2012-05-09 13:46

    In the cANCer the question is not how can South Africa and its people gain from something....No it is always how can we screw the people of South Africa. Unfrotunately this is along term cANCer problem created and it is goign to take many years to get rid of this cANCer. I am not sure there is enough radiation on the planet to get rid of these thieves.

  • Victor - 2012-05-09 13:50

    Lets hope that it goes on longer than the dewani case and the jub jub case !!!!!!!

  • Phumi - 2012-05-09 14:04

    The e-Tolls are a Gauteng problem and not a South African problem! This argument of food prices are going to sky rocket or the poor will be affected does not hold water! Besides many of the farms, food firms and processors are not based in GP but on the outskirts. These e-tolls to quote from Jimmy Manyi are not just a "bad dream" they were delibarately built to reduce road conjestion and to improve productivity for the economy of Gauteng. Again only the well-to-do and the affluent are going to benefit from this. The user-pay principle is not only fair but a right thing to do! SANRAL must not be bullied over this we as honourable citizens we must all do our share to assist the government of the day move forward! The PP has far more pressing issues on her plate to chanell her resources to those who can afford to hire their own private investigators and lawyers!

      Kenny - 2012-05-09 14:20

      Phumi!!! Wat F*kk£n Rook jy!!!!

      Kuno - 2012-05-09 14:27

      you right the PP has far more pressing issues... for example investigate the corruption in government, make sure people who have to be behind bars will be behind bars. Only and idiot like you does not understand the connection between transport costs and increases in food prices. the manufacturers are maybe on the outskirts of Johannesburg, but sooner or later the goods will have to end up on the store shelves in Johannesburg and unless there is a store fairy i would guess that these goods have to be delivered by truck... I am totally amazed that you know how to use a computer seeing that you dont have two brain cells rubbing together.

      GavinBu - 2012-05-09 14:27

      You are a silly person Phumi! To get the goods from outside Gauteng, in to the province you will need to use the e-toll roads! The Farmer or processor up's his cost of goods because it costs him more to get his produce to the market, the market up's their cost because they paying now more for the goods, the buyer now pays more from the market so up's his resale price! So now that lady that sits on the side of the road selling veggies now needs to up her price, you and me now pay more for goods! Basic Economics in action! So can you see now that it's now only a Gauteng problem? E-toll is the pilot project, and if successful it will be incorporated into the other provinces! For a clever person you rather dumb!

      Angle - 2012-05-09 14:33

      Hi Phumi, If you think the user pay principle is the fair and right way of charging citizens for public services then when will all the poorer provincial governments be giving back the great proportion of the tax collected in Gauteng that's used elsewhere? Troughout the country money raised by Gauteng taxes subsidises: Schools, grants, roads, hospitals, police, social services, libraries and so on. Because the economy of Gauteng is so large a good deal of their taxes are not spent in their province. Now if your next reply is "they are rich and so they can afford this generousity" remember that without the Gauteng economy a great deal of services in other provinces would not be paid for. The e-tolls will have a negative effect on Gauteng's economy = less tax revenue = less government spending throughout the country. Let's not kill the goose that lays the golden egg.

      Shanelle - 2012-05-09 14:39

      Phumi, you just can't help yourself hey? Keep quiet you are making a fool of yourself.

      Themba - 2012-05-09 14:52

      According to your logic, food falls from the sky as manna to Gauteng? I thought it was transported from wherever to Gauteng.

      Tony Lapson - 2012-05-09 14:57

      Guys, there is a reason why phumi never responds to replies, he thinks he is right in his own mind. Instead of questioning and challenging, he bends over and receives all the c*** he can get. It makes him feel good.

      flashmillar - 2012-05-10 14:38

      Listen guys, give phumi a break. Chuck Norris is going to be delivering the frikken food and chuck don't pay no toll

      Siyanda - 2012-05-13 08:15

      @Phumi where do u think the loaned money is gonna cum frm afta GP residents refused to buy eTags????ovias from tax payers NATIONALLY so don't b fooled my sista,every1 is gonna pay 1 way or the other TRUST me

  • Phumi - 2012-05-09 14:25

    If the DA was genuinly against these e-tolls then why did they do a silimar thing in Chapmanspeak agaist the residents will? At least government is willing to listen but in that police state of the Western Cape people are being bulldozed to paying! There is not even a user-pay principle or discount rates for customers! They must stop throwing stones whilst they are living in the glass house!

      MSGRule - 2012-05-09 14:41

      Phumi turn off the peecee and go sit under the tree and watch something. WC Only province where there is growth and a future in our cANCer provinces we are getting milked to death. Now please leave the confuser alone.

      Angle - 2012-05-09 15:14

      There is nothing even remotely similar to the Gauteng motorways and the 8km long Chapman's Peak road. And the ANC were the ones to install tolling on the Chapman's peak road - not the DA.

      flashmillar - 2012-05-10 12:28

      I was wondering why the frisbee was getting bigger, then it hit me

  • Stephen - 2012-05-09 14:25

    Phumi you fail to use your brain

  • sika.ncamane - 2012-05-09 14:29

    Madonsela leave the E-toll saga alone if you don't want your house to be broken into like the Sexwale Laywer.....there are big shots involved here....this is a mafia web

      MSGRule - 2012-05-09 14:42

      the mafia = cANCer

  • Gordon - 2012-05-09 14:40

    Option 5: Use the traffic fine money. Option 6: Use the VAT paid for vehicles. Option 7: Get rid of bribery cops so the money gets channeled to government direct. Option 8: Trucks coming from Zimbabwe & other african countries with illeagle goods should pay double or be confescated & sold in auctions Option 9: Use the driver licence fees that we pay every 5 years. Option 10: Illeagle alliens to apply for south african driver's licence Option 11: unlicenced illeagle alliens vehicles should be confescated and sold in auctions. Option 12 to 100: The anc, sanral & eskom's fat cats should be investigated & fined then use that monies for the roads.

  • braamc - 2012-05-09 19:15

    It is the f**cken cANCer thieving filth

  • flashmillar - 2012-05-10 14:39

    By the way, how were Sanral planning to charge Chuck Norris for using the highways?

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