Magistrate questions Muslim 'outcry'

2012-08-21 20:14

Johannesburg - A Krugersdorp magistrate on Tuesday questioned whether the community of a Muslim man beaten to death was aggrieved by the attack.

Reginald Dama asked the investigating officer whether he perceived there was an outcry over the crime.

"I was getting that they were angry," Warrant Officer Hendrick Janse van Rensburg said in the Krugersdorp Regional Court, saying he had spoken to witnesses and members of the community.

He was testifying during the bail applications of Roedolf Viviers, 28, who is accused of murder and assault with intent to cause grievous bodily harm, and Zayne van Tonder, accused of assault.

The two men allegedly made racist remarks to Muhammad Fayaaz Kazi and Anser Mahmood, then beat them up outside a fast food outlet in Magaliesburg on Monday 6 August. Kazi died in hospital.

Prosecutor Micky Thesner asked Van Rensburg if they were angry because they believed the assault was racially motivated.

"Ja, you can say that [sic]," he replied.

Embodiment of evil

One man, a Mr Jassad, testified that calling a Muslim Osama bin Laden, as was being alleged, was derogatory.

This was because international events presented bin Laden as the "embodiment of evil".

The State opposed Viviers' bail as he was accused of a schedule five offence which, according to the Criminal Procedure Act, requires him to prove exceptional circumstances exist to get bail.

Attorney for the accused, S Smith, read out an affidavit by Viviers detailing why he believed he should be granted bail. Viviers said he looked after his ill and elderly mother. He was the sole breadwinner of his family and provided for his fiancée and her young child.

Viviers signalled his intention to plead not guilty to all charges. There was no risk that he would skip bail, Smith said.

The court was packed with photographers and reporters, as well as family and community members.

Dama warned journalists they would be expelled from proceedings if there was a disruption.

  • jerry.medina.756 - 2012-08-21 21:08

    I blame the ANC on this

      Sige Gorabeb - 2012-08-22 02:46

      hahahahaha....what? foot!

      hendrik.verwoerd.94 - 2012-08-22 06:30

      Why? Is the DA not to blame as they have all these racist whites in their party?

      onke.tshaka - 2012-08-22 07:26

      what an idiotic comment

      dewalds3 - 2012-08-22 07:33

      And Jannie Smuts & Dingaan. Bloody scoundrels!

      msendi - 2012-08-22 13:10

      Wadlalisa okwengane yoMlungu (What a brilliant move. You did it like a white man's child). This was a compliment when you made an exceptional move in chess or soccer in my childhood… Looks like we've been insulting ourselves all these years… Some of our light skin brothers in this website are proving us wrong all the time…

      introvert.introverts - 2012-08-22 21:53

      Jerry!I assume you didnt forget to blame the NP for apartheid massacres.

      andreas.meyer.12327 - 2012-08-23 18:56

      From what one can see the concept of a multicultural society isn't sustainable in reality.

  • eric.f.moloi - 2012-08-21 21:43

    thy didnt think out of de box b4 thy act,now face de consequences,whn u plant a seed of tomato,dont xpect to plough potatoes

      FeebleGastro - 2012-08-21 21:51

      "thy de b4 de whn xpect" and whatever goes with it... If you wanted to be treated like a grown-up, at least sound like one.

      mark.singh.9889 - 2012-08-22 08:13

      how did this grade R person get access to th internet

  • introvert.introverts - 2012-08-21 22:28

    True barbaric actions, reminds me of the suffering and pains blacks had to endure during the white rule.

  • sisie.indola - 2012-08-22 07:26

    What ever happened to "sticks and stones may break my bones, but words can never harm me". Why are people becoming so aggressive is it something in the water or is it that people generally have big chips on their shoulders.

  • Simthandile Mpondo - 2012-08-22 09:38

    If a white person commits a crime, white people are so quick to come up with excuses for y this was done. White people are very angry in General and you will see this everywhere you go especially on the roads. Calling a Muslim man Osama just because of his beard shows stupidity and the level of disrespect for other human beings. I hope they rot in jail bloody idiots.

  • erich.goosen - 2012-08-22 11:17

    I think one of the conditions of bail should be that the two accused should refrain from having contact with Jos Strauss and Hasim Amla.

  • colin.langley - 2012-08-22 14:34

    Sorry...but how can you justify this behavior?. I grew up in a small mining town and let me tell you, those inbred afrikaaners hated everyone. I hope these two poepalls get jailed for life. They are nothing but big bullies!

  • andreas.meyer.12327 - 2012-08-22 22:18

    Yes Jerry, It clearly shows that the concept of a multicultural society isn't sustainable in reality.

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