Malema: Money laundering not serious charge

2012-09-26 12:00

Cape Town - Expelled ANC Youth League leader Julius Malema on Wednesday said the charge brought against him isn't a serious one, after he was granted bail of R10 000 by the Polokwane Magistrate's Court.

Malema was earlier charged with money laundering, for allegedly "receiving proceeds from unlawful activities".

Addressing supporters outside court, Malema said the money-laundering charge is only a schedule one offence, and not a serious charge.

He said he was told that he was going to be tied to corruption and fraud, which were much more serious offences.

Hawks spokesperson McIntosh Polela, however, told Sapa the money-laundering charge should not be taken lightly.

"Money laundering is not a frivolous charge, and it can incur a sentence of 15 years."

Malema questioned the warrant for his arrest, saying he made it clear he would present himself to court.

He also took a dig at the investigating officer in the case saying “you have done all your investigations for over a year, you never spoke to me”.

"I’ve never been part of any criminal activity, I will never be part...I’m not corrupt, I’m not part of any criminal activities.

"Today they proved it. That they do not have a case of corruption against me, of fraud against me."

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  • konfab - 2012-09-26 12:04

    Malema logic: getting bail implies lack of guilt.

      Rabbler.Rouser - 2012-09-26 12:11

      Money laundering is a serious charge. And it does mean that he will carry a criminal conviction if found guilty. If his partners in crime get a conviction he may have additional charges instituted against him. His worst nightmare is only just beginning.

      fussed.anderson - 2012-09-26 12:18

      Maleba, a big one.

      neo.motsepe - 2012-09-26 12:25

      Thinking outside the box would really be of help in here, even for a second.

      Chaapo - 2012-09-26 12:26

      Don't blame him. His education did not extend to much, and hey, they break the law so regularly in their corrupt practices without consequence that they truly believe it does not matter in the least.

      mable.jacobs.90 - 2012-09-26 12:36

      Of cos he thinks money-laundering is no crime, what's R4.6 mil to a rich paumpers S who's never had to lift a finger to get what he has.He did win a lot of tenders.

      jeremy.thewasp - 2012-09-26 12:42

      Dear Moron Sebata Derek says nothing about only whites paying tax you chop You right, tax money does then belong to the state, its what the state (Anc does with it that makes us mad.. Now go and have a nice cup of tea and a lie down you overstressed twat!

      stirrer.stirrer - 2012-09-26 12:43

      @moronorama: Where did Derek say only whites pay tax? The point is that tsotsis like Julius steal from white and black alike, even the poor pay taxes and he's got no problem stealing the money that's supposed to uplift their living conditions, while he drives around in luxury cars with his Breitling watch and drinks Johnny Blue Label, bought with MY and YOUR tax money.

      aniken.vader.31 - 2012-09-26 12:45

      Malema sounds like ol'jackie! LOL - 2012-09-26 12:49

      Interesting Profile Pics on your FB Morama.sebata .... did Uhmkonto ban or exiled you and that is why you live in Peru or are you just too scared to live in SA..... Where is your confidence in your brothers why did you run away?? ....strange how further people away the bigger the mouths are??!!

      susan.paul.330 - 2012-09-26 12:50

      R10 000 what a joke...

      michelelawrence03 - 2012-09-26 12:50

      Jip - the money was obviously owed to him because of his connections, his previous disadvantage - whatever - he is malema -the 'untouchable'.......

      Gatvol Griet - 2012-09-26 13:55

      Moron Sebata, Wrong there. If SA were really still a democracy, the country is supposed to belong to the people. But since the ANC is Communist, it's obvious that it thinks it is God and can do with taxpayers money what it wants. In a real democracy, the 'state' is employed by the people. Leaders are supposed to serve - that is why government employees are called civil SERVANTS.

      sandra.j.rennie - 2012-09-26 14:43

      Morama Sebata Unless I am totally and utterly blind, I can see no mention of Whites in Derek's post. He said Taxpayers monies. That means all taxpayers and that includes you as well if you work. You are biased. The fact of the matter is Money Laundering is a crime - end of story no matter what you might think.

      merven.halo - 2012-09-26 14:44

      Funny that Malema haven't blame apartheid yet.

      camp.j - 2012-09-26 15:06

      Hey Morama, i just took a look at your FB profile. I noticed you went to school in 1992 and then again in 2008, i make that 16 years? Do you have Grade 10 yet? Judging by the content of your comments i'm guessing not. :)

      francois.vanderschyff - 2012-09-26 15:11

      @ Susan, Yes they know where to find him... at any illegal strike telling them to ask for 12.5 ... i hope he will get the picture should he himself get 12.5 for his "NOT SO SERIOUS" case

      goyougoodthing - 2012-09-26 16:52

      That is the problem with all of these guys - they think that if the charges are not serious it doesn't matter. If they litter in the street it should be a big deal as it is breaking the law, something which government members should be doing absolutely. The thugs are too arrogant to understand this.

      UNITY - 2012-09-26 18:01

      If money laundering isn't a serious offense..then all offenders can quote the\ Malema Trial\ and get off easy like Julius.. Fair ..why should ordinary citizens be treated differently and comrades be sent to 5 star hospitals!

      morris.khunou - 2012-09-27 08:53

      This are possibly words from his artoney. Remember any lawyer has to asure his client that there isnt a case. just to boast their confidence sothat they can milk them heavily!

      pieroleroux - 2012-09-27 12:33

      Typical narcissist way of thinking

      davy.crockett.5209 - 2012-09-27 13:40

      Mr Malema has done nothing wrong except help the youth of South Africa and push the causes that are dear to their hearts to the forefront of the public's consciousness. This is a frivolous charge and should be revoked.

      mcmwax.chinsolo - 2012-09-27 16:21

      But you gotta give it to him for taking a jibe at the investigating officer!

  • ahemsurferosa - 2012-09-26 12:06

    epic fail!

      squeegee.pilot - 2012-09-26 12:39

      He has no shame.

      celtis.africana - 2012-09-26 12:42

      Malema is undergoing presidential training. Once he has all the (fingerprint) certificates and judgements against him he will fit in perfectly in our government.

      ryan.viljoen.39 - 2012-09-26 13:39

      Money laundering falls under section 4 of the Prevention of Organised Crime Act. The penalty clausse says "8. Penalties.—(1) Any person convicted of an offence contemplated in section 4, 5 or 6 shall be liable to a fine not exceeding R100 million, or to imprisonment for a period not exceeding 30 years." I think that is pretty damn serious! I wonder if his attorney has told him this little gem?

      jonivdw - 2012-09-26 14:04

      Criminalizing money laundering The elements of the crime of money laundering are set forth in the United Nations Convention Against Illicit Traffic in Narcotic Drugs and Psychotropic Substances and Convention against Transnational Organized Crime. It is knowingly engaging in a financial transaction with the proceeds of a crime for the purpose of concealing or disguising the illicit origin of the property.

  • andrew.arnesen - 2012-09-26 12:06

    Obviously Juliarse is too stupid to realise that money laundering IS criminal activity and corrupt... This pathetic excuse for a leader is as thick-skinned as he is thick...

      Jo.Davies123 - 2012-09-26 12:21

      Words fail. Unless he is comparing it to his other crimes. In relation, this might not be "so serious".

      aram.skepsel - 2012-09-26 12:23

      It's a charge, not conviction!!!!

      Chaapo - 2012-09-26 12:31

      Only in his alternate reality is money laundering not a serious crime or is he, as usual, playing to the gallery?

      jurie.nel.3 - 2012-09-26 12:50

      Morama, is that really your thinking, or do you only express yourself in a confused manner?

      Desilusionada - 2012-09-26 13:04

      @morama.sebata Your logic and reasoning is impeccable. Determining someone's support based on tribe. WOW! I KNOW you must be a US citizen, because your FB Pic is a .50 cal used by the US Marines in Afghanistan. So now that we have made our little jokes, please note that though people are sometimes sharp with each other, it is usually because of illogical, circular and/or poor reasoning skills. Once is OK, we all make mistakes, but you seem to be out to just either insult or SHOUT or make nonsensical comments all the way from Lima. A quick (12 year) school education would have helped, but then again I blame the poor public health service (funded by all of us, via tax, [not you, as you pay tax in Peru]), for not being able to surgically remove the chip from your shoulder.............

      ian.dejongh.562 - 2012-09-26 13:13

      @moramasebata, I would like to amend your comment to suit you: "You must be one of those that are benefiting from stupidity or a single braincell haemorrhage because you support a leader that is corrupt and could even have stollen one billion from the poor. I know you are supporting Malema because you are that stupid. He (Malema) would be jailed and surely you will go back to your old sh&^hole and dont try to think of doing a u-turn like in the past where you would kill for Zuma and now you want to kill Zuma and then claim to be a Zuma or ANC supporter because if you are so stupid to support Malema you ARE F@cked!!!" Now that suits you better.

      lisa.staden - 2012-09-26 13:59

      @morama.sebata MORON MORAMA, YOUR STUPID LITTLE COMMENTS REFLECT THE LITTLE YOU HAVE BETWEEN THE EARS! Its obvious that Juliarse will try which ever way to down play this charge! He has stollen (excuse me laundered) money meant for the working people of the country, that he claims he is fighting for. I just wonder what his comment will be if his grand mother gets raped by his own or what he would say if he was hi jacked or robbed. . .

      emphatic.darksorrow - 2012-09-26 16:57

      On a side note, I wonder if the ANC realises that they have institutionalised the one thing that Mr Mandela fought against before he was imprisoned - communism.

      piet.gert - 2012-09-27 08:35

      Can someone please copy and paste Morama's posts? The idiot keeps deleting them!

  • ahemsurferosa - 2012-09-26 12:06

    epic fail!

  • chantelle.senekal - 2012-09-26 12:08

    well he's not wrong in SA money laundering is not a serious crime... nor is murder or rape

      merven.halo - 2012-09-26 14:41

      In SA Government money laundering is a basic struggle right.

  • mantothieve.missingman - 2012-09-26 12:08

    " "I’ve never been part of any criminal activity, I will never be part...I’m not corrupt, I’m not part of any criminal activities" Sad thing is yoru brainless supporters will eat this crap like your eat a kfc bucket

      talita.vandermerwe - 2012-09-26 12:19

      "These hands are clean"

      Nads - 2012-09-26 13:23

      Aram, please explain to me how exactly you think Malema became so rich? He hasn't worked a day in his life, how is he a multi millionaire??

      mantothieve.missingman - 2012-09-26 14:06

      @ aram.skepsel you just proved my point thanks

  • monde.sibisi - 2012-09-26 12:12

    This idiot is facing close to 30 years in prison or a R100 000 000 fine, and he calls that not serious? I'm starting to believe this guy is worth close to a billion rands. Now ask yourself why Limpompo is so broke

      aram.skepsel - 2012-09-26 12:28

      Hey Monde, that is not the only thing he is facing boet. You forgot innocence. In law, you get either of the two and experience will teach you never to assume while the process is still underway. A lot of you "idioits" could be in for the greatest disappointment since the dropping of the other two charges!

      deon.louw.7505 - 2012-09-26 13:41

      He also did not take the Sars case serious as he failed to appear, no he has a R16m judgement against him. Failure to pay this bill will lead to him losing all his property.

  • eric.martinsich - 2012-09-26 12:12

    How can washing one's money be a crime heh heh

      pieter0827006294 - 2012-09-26 12:57

      Thats funny! lol

      merven.halo - 2012-09-26 14:43

      Money washing is not the problem, stealing neighbour Zuma's washing from the Laundromat is.

  • jason.heineberg - 2012-09-26 12:13

    Logic101, "money laundering is minor crime therefore I'm not a criminal (because real criminals get more than 15 years)". Displaying his intelligence as usual.

  • civil.moabi - 2012-09-26 12:14

    the NPA is a joke if they dont know the senteces for money laundering what else can they know

      Nads - 2012-09-26 13:54

      According to the Prevention of Organised Crime Act: "Any person convicted of an offence contemplated in section 4, 5 or 6 shall be liable to a fine not exceeding R 100 million, or to imprisonment for a period not exceeding 30 years." Section 4 discussed above refers to money laundering.

  • vuyokazi.nabevalelo - 2012-09-26 12:20

    Money laundering is not a crime to Mr Malema...

      stirrer.stirrer - 2012-09-26 12:57

      In prison Papa will also be behind Malema.

  • jeremy.thewasp - 2012-09-26 12:23

    Everywhere else in the world it's a serious charge but not in SA Hells Bells - here you can be corrupt, steal, launder, rape, murder and still get a promotion and a Golden handshake. Just ask any Malema and any ANC MP

  • DJcrouse - 2012-09-26 12:23

    Laundering R4.6m and bail is only R10 000 ???

      deon.louw.7505 - 2012-09-26 13:46

      He probably has a very good lawyer.

  • andre.vandeventer.16 - 2012-09-26 12:25

    The fact that Malema thinks that money laundering is a minor offence only reflects his total ignorance. If found guilty under racketeering a maximum sentence of R100 000 000 and/or whole life sentence may be imposed! These laws were legislated under international laws to prevent organised crime. Prevention of Organised Crime Act (POCA). Very serious indeed!

  • mark.haupt.31 - 2012-09-26 12:26

    Of course it's not a serious charge - as long as one is linked to the ANC where it's regarded merely as an unofficial reward for being part of the struggle. Besides, they'll "misplace" the paperwork anyway once his benefactors get involved.

  • jbm.moate - 2012-09-26 12:27


  • ashwin.leckram - 2012-09-26 12:29

    Al Capone was put away for money laundering. In Malema"s case, it is not seriass.

      jacques.theron.3304 - 2012-09-27 05:31

      Wasnt Capone put away for tax evasion? I know there was a famous mobster who they couldnt pin anything on, so they nailed him on tax evasion.

  • nicolas.cocolas.1 - 2012-09-26 12:31

    What drives me around the bend is that the very people he is stealing from are the ones that support him and would vote for him if need be. Is there another way of saying "Wake Up You Stupid Ignorant idiots". At the end of it the Voters get the Government that they deserve. All I can say is "Cry The Beloved Country " !!!!!

  • kenneth.stanton.148 - 2012-09-26 12:33

    Where is corruption and fraud charges.Let's wait for 30 November maybe they got serious offence against him in store jah neh

  • andile.mali.73 - 2012-09-26 12:34

    Malema for President:

      ashley.stroebel - 2012-09-26 13:36


      kedebeer - 2012-09-27 04:16

      He is to dumb. Then he is going to need a white man whom he hate so much to think for him. Not going yo happen soon.

  • asdhasgd - 2012-09-26 12:34

    There...there is no way people this stupid can hole position of power O_O it boggles my mind.

  • gordon.turner.37 - 2012-09-26 12:36

    Here is a list of ways to identify a sociopath. This list is from "Profile of a Sociopath." Is is a pretty good list of sociopathic indicators. Glibness/superficial charm Manipulative and cunning Grandiose sense of self Pathological lying Lack of remorse, shame or guilt Shallow emotions Incapacity for love Need for stimulation Callousness/lack of empathy Poor behavioral controls/impulsive nature Early behavior problems/juvenile delinquency Irresponsibility/unreliability Promiscuous sexual behavior/infidelity Lack of realistic life plan/parasitic lifestyle Criminal or entrepreneurial versatility Contemptuous of those who seek to understand them Does not perceive that anything is wrong with them Authoritarian Secretive Paranoid Only rarely in difficulty with the law, but seeks out situations where their tyrannical behavior will be tolerated, condoned, or admired

      jeremy.thewasp - 2012-09-26 12:46

      Thanks Gordon - you forgot just the one "Fat bloated Slug"

      squeegee.pilot - 2012-09-26 13:50

      Wow, we have a whole parliament full ...

      squeegee.pilot - 2012-09-26 13:51

      Please cite your sources better. Taken from: "ANCYL Membership Rule book"

      shaun.beiers - 2012-09-26 14:56

      the exact definition of your apartheid goverment.

      gordon.turner.37 - 2012-09-26 15:27

      Absolutely Shaun - which should be ringing alarm bells in your own head!!

  • mehluleli.majajini - 2012-09-26 12:36

    There is no brain in that fat head. He forgets or he does not even know of the minimum sentences Act, which the very same charge he is facing warrant application of same......15 years for him

  • jonivdw - 2012-09-26 12:36

    Why only money laundering? He was still listed as an active director of SGL in 2010.... 3 years after the first tenders were awarded? SGL is a "sister company" & benefitted from the OnPoint tender? He should also have been blacklisted with his partner.... There seems to be a few gaps......

      mike.clery - 2012-09-26 16:23

      He hasn't been charged with the other offences YET. Let's see what happens with the others' trials .....

  • marc.rule - 2012-09-26 12:37

    What a jaskASS

  • osmaseko - 2012-09-26 12:39

    I still say it again, they only had an arrest warrant after Thuli Madonsela's provisional report. The hawks / NPA didn't have a case against they are going to use Madonsela's report as their evidence....this will be their downfall

  • charl.strydom - 2012-09-26 12:44

    Juju had no emotion for us.. He can do lying and betray.. Can prevent guilty.. But many guilty inside his ass... But the wheel will turn and happen to him.. Only God know.. We can't judge with him.. Only God jugde with him

      Jolene Strydom - 2012-09-26 12:46


      jacques.theron.3304 - 2012-09-27 05:37

      This english hurts my eyes.

  • mehluleli.majajini - 2012-09-26 12:45

    Not even a 24hr a day or 365 days a year mentor-ship by best professors can help this domkop learn, reason or talk sense. He just spew s**t and his dumb followers clap hands. Time for stupid supporters to go back home on an empty stomach whilst he is going to his big mansion to enjoy some expensive champagne with sushi.

  • Jolene Strydom - 2012-09-26 12:45

    what an idiot. anyone who knows anything about law will tell you that regional court focuses on schedule 5 and schedule 6 offenses. so either the NPA will amend the charge sheet or he talks crap as per usual!

  • - 2012-09-26 12:47

    this little numb nut needs this, you have to have a criminal charge to get anywhere in politics these days, happy graduation juliarse

  • sk.malatsi - 2012-09-26 12:48

    like I said before, the NPA has nothing on Malema. I'm not his fan nor a proponent of his views which makes sense at times though expressed in barbaric manner. the court cannot sanction someone on baseless speculations and unfounded allegations

  • brett.michielin - 2012-09-26 12:48

    \I'm not a criminal\ does he know money laundering is a criminal offence.

      beki.khumalo - 2012-09-26 13:22

      This beautiful comment will only become valid if and when Malema is found guilty! As things stand, he's NOT a criminal, put emotions aside and that's a fact.

      nettie.potgieter.5 - 2012-09-26 13:37

      Don't worry Niki Galgtou will educate him by the time the case come to the point of judgment we will see less of him Lol

  • dylan.mugabe - 2012-09-26 12:53

    News24 loves to sensationalise, it keeps us coming back.

  • zamani.shongwe - 2012-09-26 12:57

    He also took a dig at the investigating officer in the case saying “you have done all your investigations for over a year, you never spoke to me”. "I’ve never been part of any criminal activity, I will never be part...I’m not corrupt, I’m not part of any criminal activities. "Today they proved it. That they do not have a case of corruption against me, of fraud against me." South African please let's respects the rule of law and the courts. Political indecencies against JZ was not good so as against J Malema is not right. Zuma should just drink his poison.

  • tony.delucchi - 2012-09-26 13:01

    ...what a country!

      Abel Sbia - 2012-09-26 13:24

      @ steven j kekane u cant even write proper english u fool ha ha ha ha

      wim.kotze.9 - 2012-09-26 16:18

      @Tshidi Maseko. Holland is spelled with 2'L's, and is a province of the Netherlands. Know where that is? It's just across the channel from the island where your master came from. Now go wash his car.

      tshidi.maseko.5 - 2012-09-26 21:34

      wim kotze,Ohh you mean the masters who are now begging on the streets!those days are gone mourning friend.u will mourn and mourn until your face turns blue. but the fact is that there is no place to run now i quess.u are stucked here,you started this master by coming to our country so enjoy it's fructuum.enjoy while it lasts 'cause the worst are yet to come.hahaa!

  • kyle.white.39750 - 2012-09-26 13:08

    This guy is the biggest knob I have ever seen. He is not affiliated with any party anymore and will not be president unless he starts his own one. I laugh at the silly comments from his uneducated supporters...shame they don't know any better. hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

      steve.j.kekana - 2012-09-26 13:18

      Maybe you must reframe youe words,just because he was addressing blacks they are not educated,we are educated and we understand politics better than you.We understand the resoan behind this this blot.R u educated?

      beki.khumalo - 2012-09-26 13:41

      Eish Bra Steve, if you're going to attempt to defend our people please consider your spelling, especially on education!

      kedebeer - 2012-09-26 16:30

      Just think how is he going to steal when he is president. Not a crime. Hehehehe and his supporters is a bunch of idiots . Supporting this ape is like jumping in lion's den. Nothing left of u but everybody will know who u are. What his supporters don't know he is stealing from them. And he is busy making a fool out of everyone.

  • Gatvol Griet - 2012-09-26 13:09

    Obviasly Malema is very relieved as he must have spent sleepless nights, stressing his butt off, over some charges much more serious than money laundering, which he is guilty of. Murder, perhaps?

  • peterdonb - 2012-09-26 13:13

    And Julius said: "They are my friends...Finish and Klaar!" Someone, please hand me the popcorn..

  • bless.boswell - 2012-09-26 13:14

    It's a disgrace that he had this against him in the first place. Wow what a role model!!

  • Shirley Van Heerden - 2012-09-26 13:15

    Stealing from others not a crime? Geez boet, your such a chop... A criminal chop:)

      shaun.beiers - 2012-09-26 15:03

      ask your father and grandfather

      Clayton Richard Delport - 2012-09-26 15:44

      @shuan seems to me you your either a troll or you actually have no clue on any history of south Africa, a Ike like you deserves a phat p**s klap upside your thick skull, bloody wannabe trash

  • maokeng.mankge - 2012-09-26 13:15

    Thuli Madonsela,Hawks n Zuma`ass r real joke moegoes of d year.To hell with dem

      louiseroger.higham - 2012-09-26 15:38

      Why are u on the gravy train with malema

      abrammothothi.mamabolo - 2012-09-27 11:00

      This people don't have a case agaist malema is shower man who want malema in jail

  • russell.paschke - 2012-09-26 13:21

    Dear MORON sebata - where does Derek make any mention of only whites paying tax? You seem to have such a chip on your shoulder that you immediately turn a comment into a racial issue. Grow up!

  • kingkongVB - 2012-09-26 13:28

    HE'S RIGHT. Stealing from the people that support you is not a crime in South Africa. Hope he does the honorable thing and tell the people what he knows about the anc top brass. He should become my falls hero if he exposes to the people what he and his anc friends has been up to. MY prediction is it will all just disappear en you the people will have to except it. Nothing you can do about it.

  • ashley.stroebel - 2012-09-26 13:29


  • chilli.stephenson1 - 2012-09-26 13:31

    This country has a bright future. There are many more people out there who do not support these criminals, and many more are taking notice and seeing that things need to change. I believe in the future of South Africa, no matter what i see happening, i know Madiba's Rainbow Nation can and will be acheived. It might be a while, but our Beloved South Africa has a bright future. We must all just stick together and stay positive!

  • mabhekana.nzuza - 2012-09-26 13:37

    Please lock this dog on a cage, otherwise i will it.

      louiseroger.higham - 2012-09-26 15:36

      Pls do it he has rabies

  • adrienne.pretorius.1 - 2012-09-26 13:44

    Empty vessels make the most noise. Go Figure!

      shaun.beiers - 2012-09-26 15:02

      ja, deur jou oupa dat die mense nie education het..

      Clayton Richard Delport - 2012-09-26 15:40

      @shaun no education? How the hell did mbeki Mandela zuma and all the others get university diplomas? Shaunie my boy sit down before your trip over your ignorance... It's because of di**s like you that the white people don't stand together, talk about thick as a brick

      steve.gibson.146612 - 2012-09-26 17:04

      Some of the poor souls in Limpopo are still not getting the education they long for_Apartheid still???????

      shaun.beiers - 2012-09-27 10:07

      @ clayton_mbeki got his degree in england, Mandela got his education before 1948,between 1948-1994 the whole nation got messed up,sorry 90% of the nation..

  • moganaicker - 2012-09-26 13:50

    Under the Prevention and Combating of Corrupt Activities Act 12 0f 2004:-Section 68 - If found guilty the court can imprison you for 15 years and fine you R10 000 000.00 (TEN MILLION) . Section 70 - seizure and forfeiture of suspected property

  • ansie.b.badenhorst - 2012-09-26 13:54

    If this guy's IQ reaches 50 he should sell!! Undoubtedly!

  • rixaka.ngoveni - 2012-09-26 14:00

    Thnx my leadr,no retreat no surrend

      mthobisi.ngobese.9 - 2012-09-27 01:17

      That's JUJU for you. I don't know about you but I like him and I don't care whether you like him or not. Thumbs up or downs, The shower boy will never win this one.