Malema: SA faces anarchy without land expropriation

2014-09-11 14:57

Cape Town - South Africa will descend into anarchy unless the state starts expropriating white-owned land without paying compensation, Economic Freedom Fighters leader Julius Malema said on Thursday.

"Ours is a struggle to change property ownership in South Africa.... We believe that a progressive, peaceful expropriation of land without compensation will resolve the crisis of land ownership in South Africa," he told the Cape Town Press Club.

"Our people will never arrive at the promised land if we do not resolve the land question, because you are nothing without the land.

"Your land is your identity.... There is no man who can have dignity if that man does not have property," said Malema, who later, without acknowledging any contradiction, told his audience that the EFF fully subscribes to Marxist principles.

He said the dispossession of black landowners was one of the motivations for the formation of the African National Congress, but that the party had lost its way since coming to power 20 years ago.

Its "willing-seller, willing-buyer" land reform policy had proved a failure.

"No one is willing to sell," he said, adding that the ruling party had yet to find an alternative policy.

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Malema issued an unambiguous warning that if no political party took up this cause, the landless poor would rise up and seize land.

"There must be an organisation that leads people that are demanding ownership in terms of property, because if there is no leadership that leads our people in demanding these things, our people will lead themselves.

"We will have an unled revolution, an unled revolution is anarchy."

He reiterated that there should be no compensation, because white farmers had not acquired their property by honest means.

"Those who took the land from us did not buy it, [they] actually committed a black genocide. And those blacks who survived were converted from land ownership to slaves, and therefore we should not be seen to be rewarding crime.

Speaking to a mainly affluent white audience at Cape Town's Kelvin Grove Club, he said he was therefore asking his listeners to hand over "some of your property".

However, Malema was quick to assure them that the EFF was committed to honouring former president Nelson Mandela's dearly held vision of multi-racialism, and added: "We want to share the wealth with white people."

"Your safety as people with money is guaranteed by the empowerment of those without money."

He went on to recount that he had deliberately enrolled his son in a mainly white, Afrikaans-speaking school "because I want him to grow [up] with white people and know that these people are human beings and he must not be scared of them".

Malema was scathing of leading figures in the ANC, in particular President Jacob Zuma, whom he portrayed as a paranoid populist with no respect for Parliament, and deserving of ousting.

Reminded of his once-militant support for Zuma, he said he had made a mistake and was trying to correct it through his new party.

"We have since apologised to South Africans for having sold them nothing in the form of President Zuma. It is a terrible mistake and we agree that we have contributed in this mess and that's why we are now contributing in cleaning this mess we've created."

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"We are not going to rest until we have removed Zuma as a president... he is not going to have a nice time in the next five years... watch this space," he said to laughter and applause.

Malema, who was wearing his party's trademark red overalls, urged his audience to contribute money to the Democratic Alliance's court application for a review of the decision to drop corruption charges against Zuma in 2009.

He was equally dismissive of Deputy President Cyril Ramaphosa, saying he "loves money more than people".

Asked where he would be in five years, Malema firmly answered: "In Parliament."

The former ANC Youth League president said he had resolved to see out his days as a farmer after he was expelled from the ruling party, but felt compelled to return to politics after police shot dead 34 miners at Marikana two years ago.

"I had taken a decision to leave, but my conscience would not allow it."

  • Lizelle Scholtemeyer - 2014-09-11 15:03

    White people actually WORKED HARD for their land now the EFF just want to come and take it??

      Martin Pienaar - 2014-09-11 15:13

      You really did not think they could do that all on their own...Do you?!

      Leigh-Rose Jenkins - 2014-09-11 15:13

      Everything For Free... what else do you expect?

      nemesis - 2014-09-11 16:22

      We waiting for you clowns to try lay a long finger on our land, lets get it over with so we can move on,, once we have shown you

      Kiss123 - 2014-09-11 16:28

      Whites are in for a reality check , in Africa.

      Kiss123 - 2014-09-11 16:29

      ie. work has nothing to do with it .

      nemesis - 2014-09-11 18:43

      eff is in a for very big surprise and it wont end in their favour

      Kiss123 - 2014-09-11 19:00

      We Surrounded by fools, Zimbabwe is well run , just ask any African leader, yet the whites think its a mess. This is Africa people wake up !

      Franky Mark - 2014-09-11 20:04

      I thought SHARING means everyone is contributing and then redistributing - Malema see it as taking, and then he wants it peaceful as well. This is not going to end well.

      Andre Jacobs - 2014-09-11 21:50

      Many probably saw that report of the lad that had an accident on his bike in Krugersdorp area a few days ago--bleeding on the side of the road with a broken arm etc.---and he got robbed and dragged around by bl,,,, s. People who wanted to help him were blocked and also robbed and they wanted to go for the helicopter too--it was a hell nightmare---- 20 or so of them from a nearby taxi rank---NOW THAT is a glimpse of the near future ---Him taking farms won't stop at farms--here comes chaos---and the police that came didn't do their duty. So people the police are even in with the malema frame of mind. We shall be on our own.

      Kenny Williams - 2014-09-11 21:56

      Kiss123 You are too much of a moron to see what rubbish you are talking. Does "this is Africa wake up" mean this is a mess? Please explain. And Zimbabwe is well run!!!!!!!! One really has to be a prize moron to believe this. Why don't you shut up and you may sound intelligent. So a despot who is voted out but refuses to step down is the sign of a country well run. You really are a dumb idiot.

      James Speirs - 2014-09-12 21:18

      You just went full retard

      Jan Nortje - 2015-04-23 11:09

      All EFF members are said to come rate this, so your thumbs up or thumbs down here does not count, I think an EFF member at news24 is modifying the counts, because not so many people can be so stupid.

  • Marc Anthony Webb - 2014-09-11 15:04

    Once you have the land then what?

      Darren Roderick Kirsten - 2014-09-11 15:11

      Then "they" Foxtrot Uniform Charlie Kilo it up!!!!

      Martin Pienaar - 2014-09-11 15:14

      Then they'll have something until there is nothing left...Not even they themselves!

      Revelgen - 2014-09-11 15:59

      Ummm - uh - no, we haven't thought about that yet.....

      Andre Jacobs - 2014-09-11 21:56

      Then the fighting starts--those with the guns from moz and swaz and leso will take most farms. The Guptas are worried and keeping close to the airports and wings.

      Ngqukuva Mthombo - 2014-09-12 07:51

      Bring back the land to the government rather and stop asking what is next because i think that one was explained loud and clear may be you're deaf or read in between the lines. We should be discussing the redistribution process and get past it. Majority of Black South Africans will never be at peace up until the redistribution of land is done and complete and chapter is closed, get used to it. Come 2030, come 2050 we will still be discussing the same issue, come to the table so that we can close the chapter!

      SaintBruce Bruce - 2014-09-12 11:15

      There is no 'promised land' Julius. Did you bother to read Richard Branson's reply to your previous rants ? Many farmers moved onto land areas that showed no previous occupation by anyone and settled there. This is historical and well known. Nguni tribes were found in the KZN areas having moved there from central Africa down the Mozambique coastal plains. They did not own land but used land. The concept of land ownership is an entirely Western one learned from the Chinese who never settled Africa, and Europeans used land ownership as a measure of wealth as well as livestock. To talk about expropriation without compensation is: 1) Showing your ignorance of the law 2) Counter to the Constitution 3) Idiotic and economically irresponsible [ you don't understand business] 4) Aimed at Whites only so it is racist [ a form of hate speech] 5) War talk - the kind of talk that gives reasons for violence before war breaks out [ just like Adolf Hitler used in the early 1930's]. In short, you are a danger to civil society and there are remedies for that !

  • Nichola Smith - 2014-09-11 15:05

    We should be arguing over how many hospitals and schools per town. Setting up colleges for nurses, police, municipal adminstration, water management ... taking land will do NOTHING but destroy the country!

      Martin Pienaar - 2014-09-11 15:15

      And adding some more hungry people in the Loop in a shack in the flood plane of the ground.

      Michael Ross - 2014-09-11 15:26

      Anyone who says they want free land, I will tell them; You want land? Buy it. Can't buy it? Get a job. Can't get a job? Get an education. Can't get an education? STOP VOTING ANC / EFF! They expect free land, free houses, free electricity, free food, free water... what have they ever paid for? Nada, zilch, nothing. Whites who "benefited" still had to PAY for those houses. They still had to BUY those properties. They still had to DEVELOP (at their own expense) their properties and houses. So why should they GIVE it away for free? "Soeka wena" to anyone STUPID ENOUGH to think anyone can walk into an estate agency and collect a free title deed.

      Ngqukuva Mthombo - 2014-09-12 07:46

      Where are you going to build those schools and hospitals if the government does not have land? Answer please!

      Helen Lange - 2014-09-12 09:00

      Ngqukuva Mthombo - Do you even know how much vacant land belongs to the government?

  • wendy.williamson.56 - 2014-09-11 15:05

    White people pay for what they get and in those days bartering was done and accepted

  • PeterJJhb - 2014-09-11 15:06

    Why is this man still around? I agree we need to substantially look at this issue but with him at the helm this country is SCREWED!

      Martin Pienaar - 2014-09-11 15:17

      Just for himself and what he can get out of it. You really think he was there for the poor. Not under the ANC and less so now. They are just too STUPID to see that. It is called IQ

  • Ian Wainwright - 2014-09-11 15:06

    There is plenty of land in the Karoo and also between Laingsburg and Beaufort West - miles and miles of land - go there and have your land! What's all the fuss about. Go on - off you go!!!!!

      Mc Apple - 2014-09-11 18:56

      Damn Jaapie, I haven't laughed this hard in some time. Brilliant!

  • Dabu Lucas - 2014-09-11 15:06

    The Land Act of 1913 benefited the minority, but now a stolen property must be returned peacefuly.

      Darren Roderick Kirsten - 2014-09-11 15:13

      1913!!! There is your answer!! this is 2014, WORK FOR YOU LAND!

      Leigh-Rose Jenkins - 2014-09-11 15:15

      What about the land the Zulu's stole from the Xhosa's or the Xhosa's stole from the Khoi, hmmm?

      Adiel De Villiers - 2014-09-11 15:15

      And all those people from 1913 is still around. most of people today worked for their money, and bought the land. you are an idiot.

      Martin Pienaar - 2014-09-11 15:18

      So that everything with it could be STOLED again!

      Michael Ross - 2014-09-11 15:19

      So any properties purchased outside of that time are exempt? Please visit any estate agency and explain this to them. They will laugh at you. 1. Because nobody is going to "GIVE" you something that YOU didn't PAY for. (whether it benefited anyone or not; WHITES DID NOT GET THE LAND FOR FREE!!!) 2. Because most properties have already changed owners at LEAST once since then (the benefited are no longer there) - so you cannot kick out the NEW owners because they PAID for the property and had NOTHING to do with the old owners / laws 3. Because the only definition of "stolen property" is where you did not PAY for it. The settlers conquered unsettled lands (nomads, gypsies, or caravans don't indicate "settled lands" as they only temporarily occupy the area) and developed them. They built EVERYTHING --- EVERYTHING, DO YOU HEAR ME??? --- from scratch!!! So in closing, pick a middle finger, because if you do not PAY for something, then you will never OWN it. The EFF talks a lot and tries to confuse people to get support. They want the GOVERNMENT UNDER THEIR CONTROL and the RESOURCES UNDER GOVERNMENT. They want to do what the ANC is doing now - TAKE IT ALL!! Nothing for the poor, nothing for the unconnected, cadré's and family get tenders and jobs. Simple as that.

      sxp - 2014-09-12 07:57

      1913 is a date set to suit political needs. How about the Boer republics are restored and then the rest then belongs to the black nations?

  • Madibogo Terrence - 2014-09-11 15:06

    Without land you are nothing...

      Martin Pienaar - 2014-09-11 15:12

      And with it most are LESS!

      Johan Steyn - 2014-09-11 15:18

      I have no land other than the piece of yard my house stands on, and the whole lot is bonded to the bank anyway. In spite of this I am doing quite well, very well actually.

      Chris May - 2014-09-11 15:19

      With or without land, everyone is somebody - unless and/or until convinced otherwise

      Michael Ross - 2014-09-11 15:21

      Without land, you are a human being. With it, you are a human being. Tell us more about how a piece of dirt can MAKE YOU A BETTER PERSON??? Stupidity is as stupidity does. You want land? Buy it. Can't buy it? Get a job. Can't get a job? Get an education. Can't get an education? STOP VOTING ANC / EFF!

      Jay Man - 2014-09-11 16:01

      Yeah...that's what they said in Zim... now the whole country is nothing.

      Mc Apple - 2014-09-11 16:11

      Well then that makes me nothing with a decent amount of money and a pretty decent lifestyle. Honestly I'm not a farmer, never was nor was anyone in my family but we have done well. Keep your land Terrence. I don't need it.

      William Wallace - 2014-09-12 07:39

      I know people with two PhDs, a loft overlooking Kensington, London, personal drivers and an annually booked trip to the French Riviera. . . But surprise, surprise. . . They don't own any farm, house, or small holding. . . In fact they don't even own the loft, they rent it. Now let me ask you, how do you figure these people to be "nothing", other than a success?

      sxp - 2014-09-12 07:59

      With land, as have been the case for eons, most blacks will still be nothing.Farming is not for sissies, but for real Boere.

      Gail Rieck - 2014-09-12 10:04

      Well you fool...GO OUT AND BUY LAND for yourselves!

      Knowit All - 2014-09-12 10:12

      Even with land, you would be nothing.

  • Riëtte Nöthling - 2014-09-11 15:07

    And SA will face anarchy when the commercial farms has been reduced to barren fields and there are not food on the shelves. His whole logic of sitting hungry on the land is just plain stupid.

      Martin Pienaar - 2014-09-11 15:19

      It is Nature's way of reducing the load on her. Killing off overpopulation by way of starving!

  • Michael Kruger - 2014-09-11 15:08

    Never trust a communist.

      Mc Apple - 2014-09-11 16:12

      Amen brother.

      William Wallace - 2014-09-12 07:40

      All pigs are equal, some are only more equal than others.

      sxp - 2014-09-12 07:59

      Or fascist, or any politician for that matter.

  • Motofogo Mulilo - 2014-09-11 15:09

    Certainly not today bro. Most are in shock by goings on in PTA today. I warned they will be shocked but they did not listen. They must heed your warnings but of course they will brush you aside and will get stunned again in a few years when the proverbial S@#t hits the fan.

      Leigh-Rose Jenkins - 2014-09-11 15:17

      And your pea-sized brains continue to ignore the fact that just over 50% of South African land is own by the GOVERNMENT, so why don't they just give you some of that? Why must it be TAKEN from people who have worked their backsides off for it?

      Michael Ross - 2014-09-11 15:21

      You want land? Buy it. Can't buy it? Get a job. Can't get a job? Get an education. Can't get an education? STOP VOTING ANC / EFF!

      Leigh-Rose Jenkins - 2014-09-11 16:04

      Lol, the race card! Oh my Gwad you must be so smart.

      Motofogo Mulilo - 2014-09-11 16:12

      I am waay smarter than you Leigh. Dont even go there. How smart are you?

      Mc Apple - 2014-09-11 16:20

      To you Mulilo I say the same. I have a decent amount of money and a pretty decent lifestyle. Honestly I'm not a farmer, never was nor was anyone in my family but we have done well. Keep your land Mulilo. I don't need it. P.S. Will I be allowed to buy it after you starved to death?

      Leigh-Rose Jenkins - 2014-09-11 16:21

      I see smart enough to delete your racist comment. So now, answer my question. With the South African government owning a substantial amount of land, why have they made no effort to "give" it away?

      Motofogo Mulilo - 2014-09-11 16:21

      Good for you MC Apple. Your money is your business frankly. Bragging about money is not my strongest point so there l will let you win.

      Leigh-Rose Jenkins - 2014-09-11 16:44

      Um... I'm not the one demanding stuff for nothing... I'm not the one who feels hard done by because no one will give me land I haven't worked for. I'm also not stupid enough to constantly vote for empty promises... So, I honestly couldn't care less WHY the government has not given you land. But, you know what, continue to blindly follow the lead of people who have proven over and over again to only be in it for themselves. And like Mc Apple says, once you've starved yourself to death we can buy the land back, cheap! Oh, and this is my last reply to you. You have yet provided an intellectual argument to my response, and frankly, I don't have the time to waste on people who are so blinded by their own hatred that they simply cannot do anything to uplift themselves.

      Motofogo Mulilo - 2014-09-11 16:59

      There you go Leigh. I thought you were not smart now l know you are not smart. I am not in government and l am not ANC. You also make a dumb assumption that you got more money than me therefore might want of anything from you. You are wrong I dont rely on Gvt for anything and certainly not from racists like you. That starving thing is what you tell your maid or mother because you can withhold financial support to them if they disagree with you.

      Mc Apple - 2014-09-11 18:03

      @Motofogo Mulilo: Sorry for jumping in here Mulilo but I have to ask, if you are indeed in possession of that money you mentioned why not buy a farm? One better, by a few farms and then give them away. Hell why don't these Zumas that are sitting on BILLIONS not buy the farms and give it to the people that enable them to steal so much? Would that not be the best thing to do? I mean most of the parliamentarians get paid HUGE amounts plus bribes plus drug money plus money laundering and then they have a farm or five so why don't they help their people?

      Leigh-Rose Jenkins - 2014-09-12 07:40

      Motofogo wrote: "I thought you were not smart now l know you are not smart. I am not in government and l am not ANC. You also make a dumb assumption that you got more money than me therefore might want of anything from you." "YOU are the one talking about money. Exactly how much money did l say l have." I rest my case.

      William Wallace - 2014-09-12 07:52

      From an outsider's view Mulilo, I have to say for one claiming that someone else "assumes superiority over" you, you sure sound damn well arrogant. But that's just my opinion. And you still haven't answered Leigh's or McApple's question. Why don't the rich politicians buy land and subdivide it among a few hundred or even thousand of their supporters? Don't have an answer do you? Thought so. But please continue your ranting about suffering under the white scourge, it truly is amusing. Another thing, clearly you have enough money to access the internet and spill your worthless bile. If you are truly suffering, why not use this time you spend on the internet trying to pick a fight with "racists" and search for a job with a living wage, surely it can't be that difficult for a smart individual like yourself. There is a high demand for doctors, engineers and actuaries in this country, become one of them! I'm sure if you ask real nicely, the government will gladly offer you a full scholarship just because of your complexion, regardless of whether you support them or not.

      Helen Lange - 2014-09-12 09:32

      You see - this is were you are so wrong. If my property is seized I will simply rent another one. The bank owns my property and I am sure that this is the case of many others as well as farms.

  • Martin Pienaar - 2014-09-11 15:10

    We've all seen what happened to the land that was surrendered. (Speaker of Parliament - Enough Said) Once nothing is left to destruct it just lies there. How about expropriating these lands...?

      Michael Ross - 2014-09-11 15:23

      Re-Expropriate expropriated lands. I like the idea. If someone else couldn't use the land, and then abandoned it, give it to someone who can or will use it. I love how people imagine that owning a piece of dirt will "magically" and "automatically" produce an income, food, water, electricity, and security - only later to find they must abandon the land they own because it is unsustainable due to a lack of planning and education on how to effectively utilize it.

      James Johnston - 2014-09-11 20:34

      The farm government bought from my family in 2004 is standing empty, I'm sure someone could put it to use

  • Fullmoon Up - 2014-09-11 15:12

    let the anarchy begin julius, we are waiting!

  • Travis Palm - 2014-09-11 15:15

    So what happens when you give every sipho a farm or small holding? He'll build a shack on it and then? Who will supply him with water and electricity? What will he do to survive off of his land, have 5 extremely under weight cows due to the fact that his little piece of land has become barren? Don't get me wrong, I dislike this capitalist society as much as the next person and strongly believe that we all need to get back to our roots so that we can truly appreciate and enjoy our lives but it will be much more complicated than simply giving people land.

      Ayanda Matuka - 2014-09-11 15:27

      How must the land issue be addressed then? Must we just accept that we will live like foreigners in our country/ continent?

      Lynn O'Shea Comley-White - 2014-09-11 15:45

      Ayanda, get an education, get work, apply for a bond, buy a house/flat/farm, - that is how normal people get their piece of land.

      Leigh-Rose Jenkins - 2014-09-11 15:59

      No Ayanda, you get a proper education, a proper job and just like 90% of the other people who DO own land, you pay for it. No one is stopping you.

      Revelgen - 2014-09-11 16:06

      Exactly, Lynn. The ANC have been in charge for 20 years now. They have controlled the education. Has it not been good enough for you, Ayanda, to help you make a decent living? Then go and ask them about it. While you are there, ask them why they closed all those skills-training centres. Because to own things - including land - you need to earn money to buy it. Just like in the rest of the world. That's it.

      Akhenaten C.T. - 2014-09-11 16:24

      Ayanda, I don't own any fixed property but I am not complaining. In spite of that I have been paying tax for 52 years. I have three children who also pay tax as well as two of my grandchildren who are old enough to work. Land did not provide us with food, honest hard work did. People don't need land, they need jobs and a steady income to provide for their families. Julius just don't have the brains to work that out.

      Akhenaten C.T. - 2014-09-11 16:40

      Sorry, 'don't' should read 'does not'.

      William Wallace - 2014-09-12 08:11

      Last time I checked Ayanda, in order to be regarded as a citizen all you need is a valid birth certificate, Green ID Book or SmartID card. . . Don't you have one of those? Then you're most probably from Zimbabwe. . . Land means nothing, don't you get it, people currently in possession of land can't fly, do magic tricks or backflips, they don't have superpowers, they're not gods. There are people that get paid substantially larger salaries that do not own any land. They lead a significantly lavish lifestyle without being in possession of a house or farm, or even having owned one historically. Why does the land issue need addressing? Land is capital, capital is worthless without a trained and experienced individual to manage that capital. Why must you own land? What makes owning land different from getting a proper education? The difference being sustainability, education can never be taken away from you. Farming is a much more risky venture than being a doctor, engineer or chartered accountant or even a bloody dietitian for gawd's sake. Why would you prefer to be a farmer that is a much more risky vocation than the aforementioned careers? I don't understand it, I wouldn't want to be a farmer, that's just my preference. When you ask a child what they want to become when they grow up, I can almost guarantee you that 9 of 10 will NOT say "I want to be a farmer"!

      Hennie de Ruyter - 2014-09-12 10:30

      @William: I will be very surprised if there is another generation of farmers after the current one. The person who has farmed all his life might not want to change career but he will send his children to university and these children will go elsewhere. So the next generation will pay much more for food.

  • Allan van der Merwe - 2014-09-11 15:19

    I don't have land! No one in my family has a farm! I was raised that u have to work for what u want!

      Antony John - 2014-09-11 16:05


      Mc Apple - 2014-09-11 16:16

      Same here Allan.

      Michael Ross - 2014-09-12 00:39

      Same, and I'm pretty sure anyone who owns land of any form that WASN'T part of the land reform / TRC process had to pay for it somehow. Property isn't free, and anyone who tries to steal it will have to deal with the law. If the ANC tries to change that law, watch how quickly the government will change! ANC tactics used against the ANC!

      William Wallace - 2014-09-12 08:19

      Sadly Allan, +70% of South Africa's population do not share your views and can't be proven otherwise given their crappy education and subsequent inability to see reason or logic. Apparently, all of South Africa's problems can be solved by addressing the education issue, but it is very clear what "issue" enjoys preference above all else in this country. It's like arguing with a brick wall with teeth and eyes every time you try to reason with an individual whose first answer to "What is the biggest issue in this country?", is land.

  • SteveJ - 2014-09-11 15:19

    Why is the press still giving this divisive porky little Nazi any publicity? He a populist, not a thinker. He has no solutions. He wants power, plain and simple.

      Michael Ross - 2014-09-11 15:37

      I agree. If Adolf Hitler was around saying these things, would the media publish it just for the "shock factor"? It is exactly the same with Julius Malema. Kill the XYZ and "take what is rightfully yours - without paying (stealing)". Just throw Julius Malema in jail for incitement to violence / murder / theft.

      Antony John - 2014-09-11 16:10

      The men that actually control this world, not the politician puppets, want racial division, it's happening worldwide. Google "coming racial wars". It's going to happen whether you like it or not.

      Andre Jacobs - 2014-09-11 21:19

      Yes John it was easy for them to identify malema as a perfect vehicle for this and he was in desperate need of cash--he got his cash and now they want payback. In America the same thing racial instigators ---You send isla mic elements into a Christian society and automatically you have tension and then racial tension also. This bokram is getting weapons from the USA indirectly. Something is brewing.

  • Layla Novak - 2014-09-11 15:20

    Taking land without compensation is tantamount to STEALING. Why does Julius Malema think that ALL white people are born with a silver spoon in their mouths? Robert Mugabe is whispering sweet BS in Julius' ear and he is being the gullible fool that he is and is listening to it. This is not Zimbabwe, so go talk this Sugar Honey Ice Tea elsewhere, imbecilic fool.

  • Amelia Louw - 2014-09-11 15:21

    Exactly what is meant by the comment" your safety as people with money is guaranteed by the empowerment of those without money"? I certainly percieve this as a veiled threat! My safety and those of other South African should be guaranteed by our constitution. WTF

  • Willem Erwee - 2014-09-11 15:21

    Is he treatening people with money, with anarchy and cival war?

      Andre Jacobs - 2014-09-11 21:09

      Yes and a few already had it slip out on these comments -threats of revenge coming 'soon' And the strange jesus talk of zum could also be a threat, like a 'understanding between the two parties.

  • Craig Harrison - 2014-09-11 15:22

    Well just like you....u couldn't hang onto the land you got,....cuz u were corrupt,......can't wait for ur trials to come up! Such a hypocrite of the mega kind!

  • Gopolang Dioka - 2014-09-11 15:23

    The very same people you say should not receive land, are the very same people who descend from Africans who taught colonisers how to plough this land. They are also the very same people who work this land. You all said the very same thing about Zimbabwe but now their farming production has far outstripped what Cecil Rhodes and Ian Smith's descendants could have ever produced. Entlek you all lucky we asking for this land peacefully and buying it back... If I was the president I would take it back by force and would careless about what the white world has to say with their economic ratings in this country, my people are landless and suffering already.

      Leigh-Rose Jenkins - 2014-09-11 15:31

      "now their farming production has far outstripped what Cecil Rhoades and Ian Smiths descendants could have ever produced"... Sure! That explains the famine. That explains the barren farmland that was once fertile and productive. My goodness but it must be so nice living in your dream world. You clearly have NO IDEA of what is going on in Zimbabwe. Good Grief!!!!! On a side note, I come from a family who have NEVER owned land, so if you think a lack of land is causing your suffering then it's all your head my friend!

      Amelia Louw - 2014-09-11 15:40

      Mugabe borrow from the Chinese enter into agreements with Chinese construction companies, have no food, very little of the original infrastructure exists its all ruined, the tap Ian Smith warned them about ran dry. I dont own land but I do own a house I have been paying for 29 years you are welcome to it and the current outstanding bond, of all the idiotic comments yours certainly take the cake. Do some investigating you post here you have access to google or do you believe it is propaganda?

      chrisX - 2014-09-11 15:49

      Who told you that Zim farm production is up??? Do yourself a favour, go to google map search, zoom into any part of our northern border then click the google earth button. See all those nice green circles on the southern side of the river? See how barren the northern side is? Your eyes dont lie, Juju is a power hungry politician who will say and do anything to get a vote. He doesnt give a hoot about the poor he just wants to be the next Idi Amin.

      Karl Van Heerden - 2014-09-11 16:09

      Whoo ha ha ha, you should be with Trevor Noah telling jokes... When van Riebeeck came here in 1652 the wheel was still not invented in SA, the settlers planted vineyards and corn fields. Only local people around at that stage was the Khoi-san who were nomadic. So how did you learn the settlers to plough? Have you heard about Archimedes and the St Paul's cathedral, read up on them and you will be shocked to see how far advanced technology was at that stage. As for Zims production, take inflation into consideration and you will see why Rhodesia was called the breadbasket, any case, thanx for the laugh.

      Antony John - 2014-09-11 16:17

      OMG Gopolang, please send me your bank details so I can send you money to buy a bus ticket to Zimbabwe, so you can see firsthand their "successful farming production" and see real suffering...I can assure you you'll come back thinking you live in paradise...

      Gopolang Dioka - 2014-09-11 16:21

      Myth 1 Zimbabwean land reform has been a total failure Myth 2 The beneficiaries of Zimbabwean land reform have been largely political 'cronies' Myth 3 There is no investment in the new resettlements Myth 4 Agriculture is in complete ruins creating chronic food insecurity Myth 5 The rural economy has collapsed By challenging these myths, and suggesting alternative policy narratives. These myths are rubbished by the story as it has been observed on the GROUND. What comes through very strongly is the complexity, the differences, almost farm by farm: there is no single, simple story of the Zimbabwe land reform as sometimes assumed by press reports and petty white News24 political commentators I see in here. And by the way those myths were found as just myths and utter lies by a white english author name Ian Scoones.... After not just listening to the media but getting the truth from Zimbabwe itself. You should all do your research and visit Zimbabwe and stop being racist in here....

      No Sugarcoating - 2014-09-11 16:50

      Gogoplang, Last guestimate is that the South Africa has a population of 52.98 million. South Africa has a total land area of 1 million 213 thousand and 90 square kilometres. The maths tells us that if everyone was to own a piece of land it would be 0.0228 square Kilometres, or 2.28 square metres. Would you be satisfied with a piece of land that size??

      Mc Apple - 2014-09-11 18:11

      @No Sugarcoating: I have made that calculation here a few times and I'm still waiting for these mathematically challenged to actually give me an answer. Like Anthony from Nowhere they all run away. They simply can not disprove or justify these illogical and unobtainable demands and the ANC knows it. That is why the ANC keeps them as dumb as dirt.

      sxp - 2014-09-12 08:02

      Making stupid comments and writing lies is not a good thing to do.

      sxp - 2014-09-12 08:03

      O ja and I have been to Zim and many other African countries and they all suck, especially to the normal people. Only the few politicians might be rich.

      Amelia Louw - 2014-09-12 08:57

      "Sir" take your head out of your buttocks... (and I am being kind here) how many Zimbabweans live in South Africa? there was some figures bandied about last week with the special dispensation permits to be renewed, these people left Zimbabwe, those figures just represented the permit holders not even the ones who applied for and obtained permanent residence in SA alone, how many others have been displaced in Europe? The miserable few that stayed behind have no alternatives or are so downtrodden and filled with despair and fear that they have no option to espout these myths. I work with some Zimbabweans and your "truth" is at the opposite end of the scale applicable only to Mugabe's cronies.

  • DrGonzoSA - 2014-09-11 15:23

    Jobs are more important than land. Concentrate on getting people jobs

      sxp - 2014-09-12 08:04

      There can never be enough jobs in a socialist system as people think they can breed as they wish, as by law they can strip assets from others to support their mistakes.

  • Martin Pienaar - 2014-09-11 15:27

    Can I have some of that land as well. Then I can sell it off to you idiots and pay of my bond, and my car, and my child's tuition fees and ... Oh it won't work you won't buy it..... You want everything for free! Sht!

  • Johannes Smid - 2014-09-11 15:27

    Julius should fly over SA one day. There is plenty of land. No-one wants to live there. Here's the thing Juju, how many of these farms that have been taken over by black ownership have succeeded? Remember, people don't want to be hungry either.

      Martin Pienaar - 2014-09-11 15:31

      You're talking (poep) in the wind here my friend.

      Revelgen - 2014-09-11 16:10

      The answer is that well over 80% of the farms handed over by the ANC have failed, gone under, gone bankrupt. Go check the figures, Gopolang and Ayanda. Can you not understand FACTS??

  • Kyle McLaren - 2014-09-11 15:30

    "we want to share the wealth with white people." I read: "we want wealth."

      Michael Ross - 2014-09-11 15:43

      I concur. Since when have blacks ever wanted to GIVE anything to whites? The black's opinion is that they own everything in Africa through some or other strange "cultural opinion" or something. Let's go see how many Red Indians are left in Northern America and hear if they also rant on like this, demanding "land expropriation". You don't hear it, because the land isn't empty. It has been developed, built up, enriched, improved at THOUSANDS of times it's original value. The same applies to South Africa. The "dirt" / "land" that was settled was empty, nobody there, no houses, no buildings, no streets, no electricity - it was developed, built, created. That cheap dirt / land is now worth thousands, millions, billions!! Nobody is going to give anyone a free Ferrari (except maybe Nissan's offer to DeadMau5 because of the whole Purrari debacle, but he's a superstar and incredibly rich, so the point is moot). In closing; wealth isn't a piece of dirt. It is having the education, job, and money, to buy whatever you want. That "power" to EARN and SPEND as you like, is REAL WEALTH.

  • Maria Ferreira - 2014-09-11 15:30

    Just when I was trying to "like" him ...... I hate him more.

      Martin Pienaar - 2014-09-11 15:37

      You are wasting you're energy.. He does not even know you.

      Kenny Williams - 2014-09-12 10:57

      You were trying to like him? Now why would you want to do that. I am sure Martin below would be a better object of your attention. In fact anyone except Zuma would. To get down to Malema's level you would have to dig.

  • Ally Rhandzeka - 2014-09-11 15:31

    ther are times when ths stupid malema must shut up. ..If he got nothing new to say why didn't he just go home and watch op....

  • Frank Swanepoel - 2014-09-11 15:37

    The government is sitting with more than 28 million hectares of land. Why not give that away? Oh wait, that land is uncultivated and will therefore need to be worked on for a few years before any money will be generated.

  • Snor Tjop - 2014-09-11 15:38

    .....and there will be anarchy if you try take what you haven't paid for! That coin have two sides!

  • Bhekisisa Shezi - 2014-09-11 15:40

    EFF,COPE,UDM,FF PLUS,DA let them stand together and discuss this issue we will rally behind them.

  • Deon Barnard - 2014-09-11 15:40

    Jou Ma!

  • Jonathan Lewis - 2014-09-11 15:42

    Jou ma Malema

  • Casper Rootman - 2014-09-11 15:43

    Malema has never worked a day in his life. He does not know how to work for something. I think the term "easy come, easy go" applies very well to him. How much of what he got without honest work does he still have? Last I heard he was sleeping on friends' couches!!!

  • John McIntyre - 2014-09-11 15:45

    Juli Ass. The following are so simple, even you should be able to understand them! These are possibly the 5 best sentences you'll ever read: 1. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity, by legislating the wealth out of prosperity. 2. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving. 3. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. 4. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work, because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friend, is the beginning of the end of any nation. 5. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it.

      Casper Rootman - 2014-09-11 15:48

      Dear John, very true, but do you really think Malema will understand what you said? I think not. Words too big, concepts too foreign. All he understands is "give me" OR "I take".

      Revelgen - 2014-09-11 16:15

      Great concepts, John, but I fear, far too complicated for the likes of EFF. Maybe a simpler version is: YOU TRY TO TAKE MY LAND, I KILL YOU. Which would be the beginning of civil war, which wrecks a country for 20 to 30 years at least.

      George Wood - 2014-09-11 17:20

      @ Revelgen, I believe that's called Rule 7.62 ! Oh and when it comes to Civil War that reminds me of something old JuJu has forgotten, or is not bright enough to realise, what does just about every single white South African male over a certain age have in common??

  • Julia Griffiths - 2014-09-11 15:45

    I assume Malema the government will also feed everyone just like they do in Zimbabwe. As you know Malema many people are not farmers backsides know nothing of farming or land ownership. Go get a life & stop trying to convince people you know what you are talking about.

  • Cathy Kotzé - 2014-09-11 15:48

    Tell this to the San and Khoisan, the only truly indigenous people of South Africa. The Bushman were killed almost to extinction, the Brown people have little say. By the way, Blacks moved into South Africa almost a century after the whites landed in 1652. Get your facts right!

      Oabile Modise - 2014-09-12 14:14

      Not that I agree with the land grabs. But "blacks" have been in southern africa about 150 years before your Christmas, go do your research.

  • James jonas - 2014-09-11 15:54

    "He who feeds you owns you" Sankara. White minority owns us. We grap the land we go hungry. They keep the land they continue to be rich Generation after Generation. Africans are so stupid that they cannot produce their own food.

      Michael Wilson - 2014-09-12 01:44

      The number of farmers is such a minority among the white minority that this statement is just one big generalisation.

  • Trevor Whitehead - 2014-09-11 15:54

    Dick head malema..what you gunna do with a piece of land huh? a shack out of old tin pieces and sit outside all day scratching yer balls...

  • Henning Lubbe - 2014-09-11 15:56

    I dont have land... can I also get to identify myself with?!

  • Louis van Zyl - 2014-09-11 15:56

    So honorable mr Malema when do you intend giving the land back to the Hottentots and the Bushman. As the white man blacks are also not the original inhabitants of this part of Africa

      Horus - 2014-09-11 16:12

      Ai Louis, however true this may be. This statement/argument is totally wasted on the masses and in particular malema and his followers. Evolution hasn't yet reached that point in their tiny minds where basic comprehension of relative straight forward situations can be understood. They hear something and that's then the only thing that stick.

  • Solly Rambelani - 2014-09-11 15:57

    Our cattles move in confine space and cause unnecessary drought with one farmer owning huge hectars of land.i go to one of these farmer to just assist me hire one of his unused farm ..he dont even have time to listen to u ..all in his mind in for himself to prosper while our cattles are dieying..tired .we have to assist one another..out of these land.

      Brown Hair - 2014-09-11 17:11

      I sympathise with you. However the situation is complex. The farmer has a great chance of having his farm confiscated because you are occupying it. At best he will be forced to give away 50 percent. there is also the issue of land management. Botswana was nearly a desert a few years ago because the people let their stock roam freely. When you crossed the border there was no drought. It was mainly because the south African farmers divided and managed their land. Look at those farmers you hate so much and learn from them. If you have a viable business model then you will succeed and be able to but your own land. If you are hoping for a handout you will probably door poor and landless. Good luck and i pray you have a fruitful farm one day and that you obtain it in a honourable viable way.

      sxp - 2014-09-12 08:07

      You have to face reality and not have more cattle than you can graze and support on your available land. This is logics.

  • Bhekisisa Shezi - 2014-09-11 15:58

    My mec is in India to discuss BRICKS related matters

      Mc Apple - 2014-09-11 18:31

      How much money does Bob want now?

  • Anne Thrax - 2014-09-11 16:01

    - South Africa will descend into anarchy unless there is progressive, peaceful land expropriation without will also face starvation. What do you plan to do with the land? Slaughter the livestock...sell the farming equipment for scrap metal...

  • Zakes Malope - 2014-09-11 16:01

    President in waiting Juju Julias Malema land issue the main concern

      Raymond Whittaker - 2014-09-12 01:05

      Yes i need land i have no land no job and no skills but i want land please.

  • Afriman Jackson - 2014-09-11 16:03

    Let's reserve the land issue for another day Honourable Malema.. Today we discuss Oscar..

  • Seshike Samuel Mmoledi - 2014-09-11 16:03

    That is true,vast land is still on the hands of whites,and they should teach South Africans farming skills and also hand over portion of the land they dont use to governmen and rightfull owners but with a bit of compensation because they were looking after that land all this years.

      Anne Thrax - 2014-09-11 16:06

      Go teach yourself how to warned....there is actual hard work involved...

      estelle.buys - 2014-09-11 16:21

      We bought the land you idiot. We worked hard, not with black hands, but our own. We will not surrender what we have worked for. We will burn down everything before we hand it over to lazy idiots.

  • blade.runner.5817 - 2014-09-11 16:05

    How do eff tolerate him. Dregs of SA society. He entices confrontation yet govn does nothing. SA isnt Zim but he will run when the ....hits the fan. The fan being of all races.

  • Ronny Peter - 2014-09-11 16:08

    You Malema, you want RSA to be poor like ZIMBABWE.

      gerasimos - 2014-09-12 05:19

      Ahhh yes Ronny you hit the nail on the head. the classic black African strategy.....reduce everything to the lowest common denominator then no-one has anything and everyone is starving. This is the "African"way

  • Justanother Numty - 2014-09-11 16:09

    To the white people, go to the bank and refinance your properties, do not spend the money, but invest it in another country if possible. When these clowns come to murder and steal, they will find that the property belongs to the bank. No use loosing everything to feckless thieves. Plan for the worst, hope for the best. I for one don't own any land, but if I did I would make sure if people are going to force me off my land, they will receive it in the condition that it was when their forefathers owned it. I will rig the place to be a pile of rubble for the thieves. If you fumbducks want land, buy it like the rest of us.

      Lebeko Merafe - 2014-09-11 17:42

      bank is owned by guess who? dumb nut

      Chris May - 2014-09-11 18:32

      Shareholders? Anyone can buy shares.

      Mc Apple - 2014-09-11 18:37

      I would suggests another approach Justanother Numty. Keep the farm in the banks name like you said and moving money offshore is a must but do what they have done for years. Give them the land then return and burn it like they have. Steal or kill the livestock and poison the water. Give back onto them what they have given to you in the first place. Then sit back and watch them turn into rats and consume each other and then let their own brothers finish them off. I think that would be fair.

      Justanother Numty - 2014-09-11 22:03

      @ Mc Apple - all that and oh so much more! I am amazed at this lot thinking it is them tolerating us, I am wandering how much longer we can sit back and watch our country burn to the ground around us. It won't take much longer nor more of this blatant disregard for the constitution before we get fed up. I am not scared, I will defend the legal rights of my fellow man with my life should people/animals decide to steal. I only hope that the civilized amongst us can establish a plan and communication structures that will face up to all perceived or perpetuated threats to the lives of our brothers and sisters. I think the time is now, we need a unity and organization equal to the very real and very possible future as proposed by these racist scum. Sooner is better than later.

  • Sabelo Sabz Hlubelikhulu Mcondobi - 2014-09-11 16:10

    Doubting if there ever was a constructive matter coming from the gigantic snout of the individual.

      Sabelo Sabz Hlubelikhulu Mcondobi - 2014-09-13 13:15

      Make no mistake I do not need any support from DA in my statement. Don't cheat yourselves. Remember your forefathers stole our land. You are now very rich mother f***res bcoz of our land. ANC will take back land it deserves.